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Hey,
even though (literally) NOBODY answered my simple questions when I was desperate to figure out how to get my Note 3 rooted while keeping Knox 0x0 after I updated to MJ3 through odin to get rid of branding, here it is:
(what a long sentence lol)
I could not use Root de la Vega I was told, because I took the update to MJ3 with a different bootloader, so I had to find something else. (phone is just 3 days old lol, didnt want to trip knox yet - even if it won't matter for warranty here in europe)
WARNING: I'm not taking resposibility if you brick your phone or if things do not work as I described here, I just wanted to share the info and my experience with others. What you do with it is your own thing! I was worried that this tool is fake so I would have been glad about more infos before trying it myself..
Working for Snapdragon only afaik!
(This isnt my work and I'm not related in any way - so give those guys credit and like em on facebook etc..)
With this app I could root my German N3 with the latest stock firmware, and knox stayed 0x0.
There could still be problems - but so far it seems to work as root is supposed to work with full write access to system partition.
(adb remount did not work for me, but system was actually mounted writable to root already, and remounting system in shell did work as well).
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Steps to get your Note rooted without having to touch odin and risking Knox flag to trip:
1. Download the android_root.exe from kingoapp.com (I'm still a bit suspicious since the thing does not have that much reputation, but who would program a working root tool just to distribute viruses etc? and its definitely working!)
2. Turn off OTA-Updates, Reactivation-Lock, Security-Updates (just to make sure - dont know if these are really necessary, but it wont hurt either)
3. Turn on USB-Debugging.
4. Install and start the android_root.exe from kingoapp.com and connect the phone when asked to.
5. Most likely it will install drivers (again... even though I had all drivers installed it downloaded the samsung drivers again, but in snail speed - so it takes a while to finish..) and ask you to disconnect/reconnect the phone.
6. It will then give you a nice big and red "Root" button, in addition to some infos.
7. Click root, and if I remember correctly there is one final step - to allow adb shell root access in su.
8. After that reboot the damn thing and enjoy root with knox still at 0x0.
9. Thank the guys who created this app (and like on facebook/twitter)!
10. (if you feel like). Click the thanks button below =)
No need to "risk it" by flashing modified odin files! (absolute noob-friendly and probably also noob-proof™ tool)
(during the whole process knox was "freaking out" a few times, the usualy prevention notification, but it seems that the kingo root tries different approaches and once it succeeded my phone did a soft reboot - screen black for a second and then booting again)
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ADDff course your system-status will show "custom" when using this, but knox and binary counter/flag stay 0x0. I heard from some other guy that you can restore to full stock with kies 3 by just flashing the firmware you are on again. This also keeps knox 0x0 I heard, but I cannot confirm yet since who wants a non-rooted phone here anyway? =) Only useful incase you need warranty repair - then I would give it a try.
I, too, successfully rooted my MJ3 Note with this tool.
I guess the reason why most, but not all apps get succesfull root or are not able to alter some files despite obtaining root permissions from SuperSU (which itself works but can't be updated) lies with SELinux. It remains on "Enforcing".
But better than nothing and hassle free so far, :good:
saintsimon said:
I, too, successfully rooted my MJ3 Note with this tool.
I guess the reason why most, but not all apps get succesfull root or are not able to alter some files despite obtaining root permissions from SuperSU (which itself works but can't be updated) lies with SELinux. It remains on "Enforcing".
But better than nothing and hassle free so far, :good:
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Yea its this SELinux enforcing BS apparently.
Does anyone without custom kernel have it on permissive and knox still at 0x0?
"setenforce 0" does not work (permission denied) and i cannot enter the selinux directory although its set as owned by root...
I found a few lines in init.rc which give "system" access to the enforce files, maybe if we could change this to root ..? =)
Will this work on exynos?
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
sohebq said:
Will this work on exynos?
Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
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No clue sorry, good you ask though. Officially the app only supports N9005 and N9006
Look what I found in the init.rc:
HTML:
# Allow system UID to setenforce and set booleans.
chown system system /selinux/enforce
chown system system /sys/fs/selinux/enforce
chown -R system system /selinux/booleans
chown -R system system /sys/fs/selinux/booleans
chown system system /selinux/commit_pending_bools
chown system system /sys/fs/selinux/commit_pending_bools
I made a version where this is all commented out, but knox that lil mofo doesnt let me write to init.rc - prevention BS again.
But how are the these things circumvented in the first place to aquire "root"? In the same way you could replace init.rc and turn that crap off that way or not?
ADD: Just a lil warning - I apparently did something that ****ed up the supersu app so it only shows a blank screen and su requests arent shown anymore. I tried reapplying the kingo root, but it wants me to allow adb shell again in superuser but i cant and then it gets stuck lol.. cant tell it to just do the root process again it seems. So I will have to go back to stock and reroot, but I'm trying all sorts of other stuff first to avoid having to do that. Not sure what caused it probably "pm enable com.sec.knox.selinux" .. after i first disabled it (probably already was disabled..and i stupidly turned it on... but not 100% sure yet that is the cause because I still had root afterwards.. but at some point it stopped working)
ADD2: Loading the firmware over kies right now, goes quite fast and when it succeeds ill report if i still got 0x0 (which I expect since someone said it works like this). If so then this would be a safe method to return to stock from rooted phone. (odin always dangerous - efs or knox..)
ADD3: OMG this kies! 100% cpu load while downloading the firmware lol? At the end it kept stalling for ages at 100% even after decompress was complete - killed it and restarted pc now i have to download everything again - and it keeps utilizing 100% cpu load (on one core, and like 50% on 2nd)
AAAAAND its gone!
I mean its there again. (the root!)
Full cycle went through without any problems or knox triggering:
1. Unbranding with stock odin file for my region from sammobile.com
2. Rooting with Kingo Root
3. (optional) Messing up root somehow... (still not sure how exactly)
4. Goin back to official status (and removing the non-working root) with Kies 3
5. Rooting again with Kingo Root
and everything with knox warranty still intact
While I still wont take responsibility what you do with your phone incase something goes wrong - I can do nothing but recommend this Kingo Root to everyone worried about the knox warranty flag - it seems completely safe (as long as nothing interrupt the process at least). With RDLV (which is also good I'm sure, but I couldnt use it since I had updated too early) you run the risk of tripping knox. At least you did with the old version where you had to find the right files yourself.
Has anyone confirmed that this root method works on Verizon Galaxy Note 3?
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I posted this in Sprint general section tonight. Works for Sprint version for sure L900p. I actually rooted and unrooted using app.
Link to the devs facebook fan page to like his page and ask questions.
https://www.facebook.com/kingoapp
Very few feedbacks considering the tool is compatible with Note 3 since 23rd of october...
Is it for real or not ?
Have you been able to update su binary?
Yes it works. A Mod closed my sprint thread. He stated we can't link to work outside of XDA. Weird since I been a member since 2006 I never heard of that rule. Most of the development comes from outside xda. Anyways yes it does work perfectly.
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CSC change !
I managed to change the CSC code to CYO >> XEF (France) without triggering Knox and with MJ3 ! :good:
Root with Kingoapp (download program, switch off reactivation lock OTA upgrades etc and activate USB debug, lunch the program, connect the phone, click root, allow debuging on the phone, wait, ignore message at screen, phone reboot, done !)
Use a root file explorer (Root explorer works for me) go to system/csc and search your actual CSC, normally there is 2 folder inside "csc_contents system and" move these folders to a safe location ( ex, PC )
Again in system/csc, look the code you want to apply, enter the folder, copy the two folders "and csc_contents system" and paste in the folder of your current code.
Make a full wipe with restore save menu, the phone reboot, after restart, switch off the phone and reboot in recovery, look at the bottom line "Applied the CSC code :" if your code is here, win !
Note : Root survive after full wipe.
jerem52 said:
I managed to change the CSC code to CYO >> XEF (France) without triggering Knox and with MJ3 ! :good:
Root with Kingoapp (download program, switch off reactivation lock OTA upgrades etc and activate USB debug, lunch the program, connect the phone, click root, wait, ignore message at screen, phone reboot, done !)
Use a root file explorer (Root explorer works for me) go to system/csc and search your actual CSC, normally there is 2 folder inside "csc_contents system and" move these folders to a safe location ( ex, PC )
Again in system/csc, look the code you want to apply, enter the folder, copy the two folders "and csc_contents system" and paste in the folder of your current code.
Make a full wipe with restore save menu, the phone reboot, after restart, switch off the phone and reboot in recovery, look at the bottom line "Applied the CSC code :" if your code is here, win !
Note : Root survive after full wipe.
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I thought it was not possible to get a recovery mode, without triggering the Knox flag ?...
Dit you got the recovery mode during the Kingo Root procedure ?
HokutoNoFred said:
I thought it was not possible to get a recovery mode, without triggering the Knox flag ?...
Dit you got the recovery mode during the Kingo Root procedure ?
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No need recovery for kingo, just download and install the program on PC, on the phone, turn on usb debugging, turn off reactivation lock and automatic upgrade (it may not necessary, it's to avoid surprise with upgrade ) connect the phone, wait on kingo, click Root, Wait, some message pop on the phone, ignore it, phone reboot and root is okay, after you can do the steps for CSC, but when i said Recovery it's the stock recovery.
Edit : I forget one thing, when you connect the phone in usb debug,the phone show a pop up to allow or not debugging, the one must be yes, if not kingo can do nothing
Why are you changing the csc code? Your updates should work without changing the csc. If you decide to unroot everything is restored as well.
Sent from Heaven.
dallastx said:
Why are you changing the csc code? Your updates should work without changing the csc. If you decide to unroot everything is restored as well.
Sent from Heaven.
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I also think it is not necessary, it is to be certain that there was no conflict or problem with other applications or network settings.
jerem52 said:
No need recovery for kingo, just download and install the program on PC, on the phone, turn on usb debugging, turn off reactivation lock and automatic upgrade (it may not necessary, it's to avoid surprise with upgrade ) connect the phone, wait on kingo, click Root, Wait, some message pop on the phone, ignore it, phone reboot and root is okay, after you can do the steps for CSC, but when i said Recovery it's the stock recovery.
Edit : I forget one thing, when you connect the phone in usb debug,the phone show a pop up to allow or not debugging, the one must be yes, if not kingo can do nothing
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OK, I didn't know there was a stock recovery.
I thought recovery was always something related to root or smartphone tuning.
So if I understand well, I just have to :
- upgrade my Note 3 with the last official ROM (N9005XXUBMJ3_N9005OXXBMJ3_N9005XXUBMJ2_HOME.tar.md5)
- download and execute Kingo
And then my Note 3 should be BMJ3 with root access and knox still to 0x0.
PS: regarding your CSC issue, what was your ROM version before the BMJ3 ?
(maybe your CYO status was due to the BMJ1 ROM from SamMobile)
And how does it work with the updates? Unroot via superSU app, then enable OTA, update and after that again Kingo Tool to root again?
HokutoNoFred said:
OK, I didn't know there was a stock recovery.
I thought recovery was always something related to root or smartphone tuning.
So if I understand well, I just have to :
- upgrade my Note 3 with the last official ROM (N9005XXUBMJ3_N9005OXXBMJ3_N9005XXUBMJ2_HOME.tar.md5)
- download and execute Kingo
And then my Note 3 should be BMJ3 with root access and knox still to 0x0.
PS: regarding your CSC issue, what was your ROM version before the BMJ3 ?
(maybe your CYO status was due to the BMJ1 ROM from SamMobile)
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Before it's branded with operator rom (BOG code > french Bouygues telecom, i dont remember version) i install latest version with kies recovery ( with french youtube video of unboxing, spot a S/N from a unlocked version and kies download the last unbranded version and install it :good: , but after, CSC code is CYO )
I use kingoo root because the MJ3 has a new bootloader and its nots possible for me to root with dela vega method, but it's not a "full root" some applications does not work, ( ex root unistaller ) maybe it's better fo you to root with de la vega, you have the root and the MJ3 but not the problematic last bootloader.
@ korny10 I dont try unroot, in download sytem is "Custom", i think a flash with stock rom and and everything was back to normal
hi,
just got a n915FY and im also a newbie to Android.
What is knox exactly and what happens if i root ? i cant find a simple explaination of what it is. Also how do i go back to normal unroot or reload my firewear? im used to iphones and just using itunes to restore if my jailbreak failed. whats the samsung/android alt?
thanks in advance
oscarricher said:
hi,
just got a n915FY and im also a newbie to Android.
What is knox exactly and what happens if i root ? i cant find a simple explaination of what it is. Also how do i go back to normal unroot or reload my firewear? im used to iphones and just using itunes to restore if my jailbreak failed. whats the samsung/android alt?
thanks in advance
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If you root, because you need to change either the kernel or recovery, you will when you go to download mode have a notification saying "Knox warranty void = 0x1". It is 0x0 before rooting.
To unroot you just flash the stock rom again using ODIN, however the Knox warranty void will stay 0x1...
Knox is a security feature that Samsung put on so that companies/spies and paranoid people could use a "secure" partition. Anything inside the Knox partition is un-accessible without the correct password that you should have. However, forget your password and loose anything inside the Knox partition.
Knox doesn't like root access as it can (potentially) break the security.
Hello, recently i acquisitioned a samsung galaxy s6 g920f second hand running android 7.0, and when i attempt to start s health it sais that it cannot run on compromised devices(0x110030521), i checked the internet and when i go to download mode it sais knox warranty void 1(0x0500). Any workaround please? Thank you.
seems like your phone is recently got rooted ? if yes, seems like your Knox is tripped
Okay, here are some solutions (not tested by me though):
-Reflash stock firmware (obviously you'll lose root access)
-set in build.prop value ro.config.tima from 1 to 0
-Install S Health apk from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/fix-samsung-account-login-password-loop-t3575443
One of these solutions should work. And please, next time do some research before creating a new thread.
Well, thanks for answer, but 1)reflashed stock with smart switch, and 2)i am not rooted whatsoever....none of the seemed to work, i gues there is no workaround the knox, or is it?
I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
rheh104 said:
I am sorry for being dumb by post this questions, I want to root my S7 so i can install costume rooms.
My question is; does rooting can affect my device and make problems?
What is this whole thing about the Samsung Knox?
What is the simple way to flash rom white/out root?
If i want to restore my phone to the stock, it is possible to do it?
And what about the warranty is the warranty will become void?
Thanks in advanced.
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I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
shabbir143 said:
I think about root
U will get a lot of articale on google about
advantage of root and disadvantages of root
About knox
If you root your device, you trip the Knox Warranty bit. Knox services do not run on devices that have tripped the Warranty bit, because this indicates a device is rooted and flashed with an unofficial Android build
But u can flash custom rom without root but when u will flash any custom recovery your will warranty not be valid
And i don't about
Is there any way to revert your warranty of u have triggered knox
But u can easily come to your stock rom
With root or without root
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And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
rheh104 said:
And if i install rom how to install TWRP whiteout root?
And is it possible to delete TWRP?
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You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
Scorpionea said:
You must use Odin to flash twrp recovery, just watch on YouTube there are many useful videos about it. This is how you root your phone.
Yes it is possible to go back on stock Samsung rom by flashing stock rom from sammobile or updato site. Everything will be as it was before root except your Knox is void 0x1 and u cant use Samsung Pay ect.
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Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
rheh104 said:
Samsung pay is not available in my country so...
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So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
Scorpionea said:
So then it's no problem, but be sure to know what u doing . Watch few videos , watch again if u never done this before and you will get there.
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Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
rheh104 said:
Thanks for helping me out, one last thing; i have all my images on the samsung cloud and i found this thing: The following Knox services are affected if a Warranty bit is tripped.
Knox Platform for Enterprise
Existing Workspace's are permanently locked and the data is no longer accessible.
New Workspace's can't be created.
Knox Cloud Services
All Knox Cloud services stop working because they rely on a Knox license key to operate – For example, Knox Mobile Enrollment, Knox Configure, and Knox Manage.
Other Secure Samsung services
Samsung E-FOTA stops working.
Unique Knox security features stop working, such as Real Time Kernel Protection (RKP) , or Device Attestation.
Other Samsung Services that require Knox stop working – for example, Samsung Pay and Secure Folder.
If i will root my S7 all photos will be locked or removed?
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Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
Scorpionea said:
Hm I really dont know, just tried to search a bit and couldn't find much info . It seems Samsung cloud isn't affected by root.
Personally I dont use Samsung cloud .
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Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
rheh104 said:
Just raed about this knox **** and some people said that they root their devices and the root ruined thiers devices oh **** man it is a big dilemma
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Nope ,root will not ruined your device at all. Dunno what u have read but people can make mistakes trying to root it or whatever they trying to do.
Can't help you much then this, it's your call to root it or not
Hi everyone !
For noob user like me : root S7 = risk to no more working knox samsung app : mainly samsung pass / secure folder. Sad i've didn't seen that before rooting -_-
For others : I prefer to open a new thread, because i've read many post about knox problem or only pass or only secure folder after root... people saying yes, no, work, don't work, update, offical stock rom, snapdragon, magisk, or nothing :/
I got a S7 G930F from France (exynos?), now model version show g930fxx4esc5, i've try root, pass, [...] and no more knox app.
- I've seen index-samsung-galaxy-s7 thread, put oem unlock, followed CF-Auto Root link http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
> alert : KNOX WARRANTY : If you have a KNOX-enabled device, using CF-Auto-Root will trip the KNOX WARRANTY VOID status ! (but didnt know what it mean XD)
> site didn't looked noob friendly to me so i looked for another one......
- Then I've followed a french link : https://www.androidpit.fr/comment-rooter-samsung-galaxy-s7-et-s7-edge
> So i took files on this page, without using more my brain -_- (didn't seen page is dated 2016... and dunno if the auto root file must be a strict model version...)
- odin said pass ! Samsung pass and secure folder dont work... T-T (i've noted my model version g930fxx4esc5 dunno if it was same before)
> with the message error I got the bad idea to remove oem unlock (perhaps it was bugging the app XD)
- then.... verification problem at boot... reinitialise dont work, useless, wipe...
> So i put my brain finally on, xda, i tried to get back official stock rom version g930fxx4esc5
- from samfirm depreciated thread i've found this site : https://updato.com/firmware-archive...=XEF,BOG,FTM,SFR&v=Oreo(Android+8.0.0)&rpp=15
- update all 4 files in ODIN BL / AP / CP / CSC, phone work but knox is 0x0500 and still no Spass no Secured Folder. Here i am :/
Général questions :
1- These knox problems are only for s7 exynos ?
2- Root and samsung pass never work ? still have someone who say yes
3- Rooted and now unrouted and samsung pass don't work ? still someone who say yes
4- unrooted + full wipe + stock rom and samsung pass don't work ? must i have to try several official rom perhaps ? trying will fail my knox more ? still someone who say an official rom will work
5- Other root method could have work with knox ? but too late if already rooted ?
For me, S7 exynos, R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5, knox 0x0500 :
6- How did i mistake ? Like i'm not in knox 0x1 but 0x0500 do i have a try ? or if i try i'll have 0x1 and no more try ?
7- Can i have back knox related apps or almost same apps (mainly samsung pass and secure folder) ?
8- Can i go back to initial stock rom ? a real samsung official rom ?
9- Can i try again following from http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ then this link https://desktop.firmware.mobi/ look for G930F, take the R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5 version who has the same than my phone ?
10- Must i follow post like : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449 or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity ?
11- What is Magisk ? before rooting ? after rooting ? for rooting ? Can i try magisk solution ? or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity
12- On french support samsung-forum just say go in samsung store they got tool to repair with a real official rom for 40€ . i dont believe.
edited : 13- Like that can i still have samsung android updates ?
If no solution to get back samsung pass and secure folder, i'll re try to root phone at least i'll have that, even if knox go to 0x1 it won't be worst ? others problem with app on a rooted phone ?
Yotitchy said:
Hi everyone !
For noob user like me : root S7 = risk to no more working knox samsung app : mainly samsung pass / secure folder. Sad i've didn't seen that before rooting -_-
For others : I prefer to open a new thread, because i've read many post about knox problem or only pass or only secure folder after root... people saying yes, no, work, don't work, update, offical stock rom, snapdragon, magisk, or nothing :/
I got a S7 G930F from France (exynos?), now model version show g930fxx4esc5, i've try root, pass, [...] and no more knox app.
- I've seen index-samsung-galaxy-s7 thread, put oem unlock, followed CF-Auto Root link http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/
> alert : KNOX WARRANTY : If you have a KNOX-enabled device, using CF-Auto-Root will trip the KNOX WARRANTY VOID status ! (but didnt know what it mean XD)
> site didn't looked noob friendly to me so i looked for another one......
- Then I've followed a french link : https://www.androidpit.fr/comment-rooter-samsung-galaxy-s7-et-s7-edge
> So i took files on this page, without using more my brain -_- (didn't seen page is dated 2016... and dunno if the auto root file must be a strict model version...)
- odin said pass ! Samsung pass and secure folder dont work... T-T (i've noted my model version g930fxx4esc5 dunno if it was same before)
> with the message error I got the bad idea to remove oem unlock (perhaps it was bugging the app XD)
- then.... verification problem at boot... reinitialise dont work, useless, wipe...
> So i put my brain finally on, xda, i tried to get back official stock rom version g930fxx4esc5
- from samfirm depreciated thread i've found this site : https://updato.com/firmware-archive...=XEF,BOG,FTM,SFR&v=Oreo(Android+8.0.0)&rpp=15
- update all 4 files in ODIN BL / AP / CP / CSC, phone work but knox is 0x0500 and still no Spass no Secured Folder. Here i am :/
Général questions :
1- These knox problems are only for s7 exynos ?
2- Root and samsung pass never work ? still have someone who say yes
3- Rooted and now unrouted and samsung pass don't work ? still someone who say yes
4- unrooted + full wipe + stock rom and samsung pass don't work ? must i have to try several official rom perhaps ? trying will fail my knox more ? still someone who say an official rom will work
5- Other root method could have work with knox ? but too late if already rooted ?
For me, S7 exynos, R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5, knox 0x0500 :
6- How did i mistake ? Like i'm not in knox 0x1 but 0x0500 do i have a try ? or if i try i'll have 0x1 and no more try ?
7- Can i have back knox related apps or almost same apps (mainly samsung pass and secure folder) ?
8- Can i go back to initial stock rom ? a real samsung official rom ?
9- Can i try again following from http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ then this link https://desktop.firmware.mobi/ look for G930F, take the R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5 version who has the same than my phone ?
10- Must i follow post like : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449 or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity ?
11- What is Magisk ? before rooting ? after rooting ? for rooting ? Can i try magisk solution ? or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity
12- On french support samsung-forum just say go in samsung store they got tool to repair with a real official rom for 40€ . i dont believe.
If no solution to get back samsung pass and secure folder, i'll re try to root phone at least i'll have that, even if knox go to 0x1 it won't be worst ? others problem with app on a rooted phone ?
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In europe rooting your phone and knox 0x1 is not hardware damage and will be covered by samsung
kpwnApps said:
In europe rooting your phone and knox 0x1 is not hardware damage and will be covered by samsung
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what you mean by covered ? i bought it since more than 2 years, no more warranty:/
so i'll have to pay, and pay for what ? they will change mother board and ask me to pay ? they will install an official rom who work ?
edit : just phone them, i don't have to flash my phone, i have to go in a store they will check my phone, and see what they can do and tell me the price for it.
i prefer to see what people on xda have to say before
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what you mean by covered ? i bought it since more than 2 years, no more warranty:/
so i'll have to pay, and pay for what ? they will change mother board and ask me to pay ? they will install an official rom who work ?
edit : just phone them, i don't have to flash my phone, i have to go in a store they will check my phone, and see what they can do and tell me the price for it.
i prefer to see what people on xda have to say before
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You dont need to call them.
If you rooted once you can never use samsung pass , secure folder samsung pay again
For updates just flash back to stock
no one can confirm / answer to some of the questions ? :/
Yotitchy said:
no one can confirm / answer to some of the questions ? :/
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Read my comment above
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Read my comment above
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thanks for your comment of 2-3 lines to answer 12 questions, i've listened to you :
"In europe rooting your phone and knox 0x1 is not hardware damage and will be covered by samsung" >> covered by samsung so i call them, they said no.
"You dont need to call them." >> i dont need to call them ok so dont say me it will be covered by samsung
"If you rooted once you can never use samsung pass , secure folder samsung pay again. For updates just flash back to stock" >> answer to ask 7 and 8
Now i dont won't to be unfriendly with you but i don't think you are alone on this forum, and i don't think you answered to the other questions.
I would like to know more about this, and why some people dont say the same things on many topics, btw it could greatly help other users to not make the same mistake than me just thinking it will be ok for them.
thanks
Yotitchy said:
thanks for your comment of 2-3 lines to answer 12 questions, i've listened to you :
"In europe rooting your phone and knox 0x1 is not hardware damage and will be covered by samsung" >> covered by samsung so i call them, they said no.
"You dont need to call them." >> i dont need to call them ok so dont say me it will be covered by samsung
"If you rooted once you can never use samsung pass , secure folder samsung pay again. For updates just flash back to stock" >> answer to ask 7 and 8
Now i dont won't to be unfriendly with you but i don't think you are alone on this forum, and i don't think you answered to the other questions.
I would like to know more about this, and why some people dont say the same things on many topics, btw it could greatly help other users to not make the same mistake than me just thinking it will be ok for them.
thanks
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Well you dont understand.
Ive already answered all your questions.
Knox cant be reset even flashing a newer firmware
And magisk doesnt let u use samsung apps either so.
kpwnApps said:
Well you dont understand.
Ive already answered all your questions.
Knox cant be reset even flashing a newer firmware
And magisk doesnt let u use samsung apps either so.
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well ok... for me its total fail according to only you (but like i said other say no) but then i answer to you, again..
if i made a long post with questions instead of just, "can i resolve my problem" its cause i think xda is a place where people can learn things with "clever" peoples.
1 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but rooting s7 snapdragon would have been the same ? you didn't answer to this i think
2 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but is there someone who have been able to root s7 and to still use samsung pass or secure folder ? you won't answer to this cause it's a no for you. but others ?
3 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but some people said unrooted flash worked ? you won't answer to this cause it's a no for you. but others ?
4 - same
5 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but does other root methods could have work ? you didn't answer to this i think...
6 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but so i havn't mistake my root ? all methods would have get me to the same result ? what's the difference between 0x1 and 0x0500 ? you didn't answer to this i think
7 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but there is no other app who work like secure folder ? you didn't answer to this i think
8 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, even with a real samsung rom in a samsung center so.
9 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, then no need to test to flash again
10 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, so if in futur there is a trick, i won't try cause you said me no.
11 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, and thanks to explained me magisk, it was really helpfull. But this one is for me, i can find info on magisk on the forum somewhere else.
12 - you just say me no, so like the french forum for me :/
For exemple here, a thread where you have post, it seems to be reasonnable to try to make S health work on a rooted phone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...riped-knox-t3921869/post79346431#post79346431
ou answer : Flash twrp then connect to pc with adb and pull build.prop .
Then edit ro.config.tima="1" to "0"
After that push the edited buildprop back to your device and flash original recovery back
so you say me no, fail is fail, but now i can try to make S health work.
Samsung Health on rooted link : https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv
you can answer me again and again and again, but its quite useless if its just to troll me with "no you can't" or "yes i answered all" in 2 lines to my ****ing boring long post.
i'll look boring, but you don't look smart to act like this :/ no answer would be smarter from you. So please don't answer anymore. Right now i won't be able to give any interest in your posts.
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well ok... for me its total fail according to only you (but like i said other say no) but then i answer to you, again..
if i made a long post with questions instead of just, "can i resolve my problem" its cause i think xda is a place where people can learn things with "clever" peoples.
1 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but rooting s7 snapdragon would have been the same ? you didn't answer to this i think
2 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but is there someone who have been able to root s7 and to still use samsung pass or secure folder ? you won't answer to this cause it's a no for you. but others ?
3 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but some people said unrooted flash worked ? you won't answer to this cause it's a no for you. but others ?
4 - same
5 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but does other root methods could have work ? you didn't answer to this i think...
6 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but so i havn't mistake my root ? all methods would have get me to the same result ? what's the difference between 0x1 and 0x0500 ? you didn't answer to this i think
7 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, but there is no other app who work like secure folder ? you didn't answer to this i think
8 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, even with a real samsung rom in a samsung center so.
9 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, then no need to test to flash again
10 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, so if in futur there is a trick, i won't try cause you said me no.
11 - i cant resolve my problem thanks, and thanks to explained me magisk, it was really helpfull. But this one is for me, i can find info on magisk on the forum somewhere else.
12 - you just say me no, so like the french forum for me :/
For exemple here, a thread where you have post, it seems to be reasonnable to try to make S health work on a rooted phone
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...riped-knox-t3921869/post79346431#post79346431
ou answer : Flash twrp then connect to pc with adb and pull build.prop .
Then edit ro.config.tima="1" to "0"
After that push the edited buildprop back to your device and flash original recovery back
so you say me no, fail is fail, but now i can try to make S health work.
Samsung Health on rooted link : https://tinyurl.com/yy37gnwv
you can answer me again and again and again, but its quite useless if its just to troll me with "no you can't" or "yes i answered all" in 2 lines to my ****ing boring long post.
i'll look boring, but you don't look smart to act like this :/ no answer would be smarter from you. So please don't answer anymore. Right now i won't be able to give any interest in your posts.
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I have no idea what youre talking about. Anyway , my other thread refers to the use of shealth without root as the op wanted to do it with no root acces,compared to yours with root. And to your thread your thread is complete bull**** since its unclear to read and understand your questions. So do me a favor and elaborate your questions next time.
Thanks
Ok thanks bye !
Back to my first "elaborate" post then
"elaborate", but i accord it certainly unclear (cause i'm not a pro english, and not a dev or a pro root user )
so here is a simplified version since i've understood more thingies (on this forum not on this thread)
Général questions :
1- Knox 0x1 problems are only for S7 exynos ?
2-3-4- Samsung Pass, Samsung Pay, Secure Folder, Health, etc.. can't never work on rooted / no-more rooted / wiped stock rom phone cause of knox ?
5- Other root method could have work without breaking knox ?
For me, S7 exynos, R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5, knox 0x0500 :
6- Like i'm not in knox 0x1 but 0x0500 do i have a try ?
7- Can i have back knox related apps editing something ? or almost same knox-apps (mainly secured folder) ?
8- If it's usefull, can i go back to initial stock rom ? A real samsung official install from myself or samsung center ?
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Yotitchy said:
Général questions :
1- These knox problems are only for s7 exynos ?
2- Root and samsung pass never work ? still have someone who say yes
3- Rooted and now unrouted and samsung pass don't work ? still someone who say yes
4- unrooted + full wipe + stock rom and samsung pass don't work ? must i have to try several official rom perhaps ? trying will fail my knox more ? still someone who say an official rom will work
5- Other root method could have work with knox ? but too late if already rooted ?
For me, S7 exynos, R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5, knox 0x0500 :
6- How did i mistake ? Like i'm not in knox 0x1 but 0x0500 do i have a try ? or if i try i'll have 0x1 and no more try ?
7- Can i have back knox related apps or almost same apps (mainly samsung pass and secure folder) ?
8- Can i go back to initial stock rom ? a real samsung official rom ?
9- Can i try again following from http://autoroot.chainfire.eu/ then this link https://desktop.firmware.mobi/ look for G930F, take the R16NW.G930FXXS4ESC5 version who has the same than my phone ?
10- Must i follow post like : https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/samsung-pay-knox-warranty-void-t3549449 or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity ?
11- What is Magisk ? before rooting ? after rooting ? for rooting ? Can i try magisk solution ? or it will be worst hard to get back to normallity
12- On french support samsung-forum just say go in samsung store they got tool to repair with a real official rom for 40€ . i dont believe.
edited : 13- Like that can i still have samsung android updates ?
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Hellooo
1. No, the KNOX Warranty Void stuff is already an "issue" ever since the Samsung Galaxy S4 came out. And ever since that, every new Samsung Device launches with that Knox counter. BTW, the KNOX Counter is an one-time programmable chip that once it detects any sort of modifications to the Device (Root, Custom Recovery like TWRP etc.) sets the counter from 0x0 to either 0x1 or 0x500.
2. That's right, All of Samsung's Security / Pay apps immediately will stop working once the Device was rooted.
3. See Answer 2 xD Since the KNOX Counter is more like a Hardware-based thing, it won't change even after a complete Stock ROM flash process.
4. Whatever those guys say, don't believe them. See Answer 3. xD
5. There are pretty much no methods to root the Device without screwing up with KNOX. The Samsung S6 / S6 Edge once had such a way of rooting tho where you were able to root while still having the KNOX at 0x0, but only on the Lollipop firmware though.
6. "Triggering" the KNOX Counter, whether it shows 0x1 or 0x500 is a one-time thing, like voiding the Warranty with rooting countless times won't make the Counter go crazy between 0x1 and 0x500 xD
7. Maybe. You'd be better to look for alternatives though, but maybe after a while tho some Dev might be able to patch it to work with rooted / Knox 0x1 Devices.
8. Yes sure. Flashing the for the Device latest available Stock ROM will return the Device to factory condition... Except the KNOX thingy tho xD
11. Magisk is like SuperSU a tool/program/software whatever you wanna name it, a Program to gain root access.
12. Nice joke, damn. xD I once asked at a Samsung Store to repair the Dead Motherboard of the S7 from my Mom, they said it'll be between 200-300€ JUST FOR THE MOBO, means you'll also have to consider the actual repair costs and so on. 40€ is a joke.
13. See 8. Yes, after returning to full stock you should still get OTA Updates.
Okaaaayyy soo I hope I was able to help you at least a little bit
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Okaaaayyy soo I hope I was able to help you at least a little bit
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hi !
Yes thanks a lot for these answers
Its should be in capitals red letters thtat knox broken = samsung app broken in notices threads :/
Even if rooting look easy, noob people like me should take really care before, wost that i did it mainly for fun testing
Finally i got a rooted phone but not really usefull for me, and no more secure folder who was really usefull for me XD
If someone got a method to get an app like secure folder (who emulate another system, don't care security) he is welcome
thanks again Fatal
Yotitchy said:
hi !
Yes thanks a lot for these answers
If someone got a method to get an app like secure folder (who emulate another system, don't care security) he is welcome
thanks again Fatal
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Your welcome.
I made a quick google search and came across that thread on Reddit, maybe one of these apps is gonna work for you? ^^
Fatal_Scythe said:
Your welcome.
I made a quick google search and came across that thread on Reddit, maybe one of these apps is gonna work for you? ^^
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thx i've found it too
exactly what i need, I tried normal install who dont work XD
island FAQ said manual install with ADB : https://island.oasisfeng.com/setup.html
but i block at begin with “Error: couldn’t create User” even if I execute setprop fw.max_users 10, i'm looking about it