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Sony Xperia Z5 Cable

Hi All
Had my Xperia Z5 for a couple of days and of course the cable that comes with it is quite short. I have heard that Sony phones can be fussy on cables (not sure how). Can anyone recommend a 2m+ cable, I've seen the Aukey cable (linked below) but not sure if this will be ok with the phone.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aukey-Assor...&srs=2323115031&ie=UTF8&qid=1448955547&sr=1-1
Thanks
Khuz

People will probably say "fussy" do to charging speed but it'll be because of poor quality cables, so as long as you buy a known decent brand you should be fine
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Khuz360 said:
Hi All
Had my Xperia Z5 for a couple of days and of course the cable that comes with it is quite short. I have heard that Sony phones can be fussy on cables (not sure how). Can anyone recommend a 2m+ cable, I've seen the Aukey cable (linked below) but not sure if this will be ok with the phone.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aukey-Assor...&srs=2323115031&ie=UTF8&qid=1448955547&sr=1-1
Thanks
Khuz
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Hi You can use cable of Mi ( ie xioami ) it is high quality cable which is fully compatible with Sony z5. You can buy it from ebay. Its length is 46 inch where as length of sony data cable is only 38.5 inch. Only high speed data cables are compatible with sony. You want cable 2m+ and i dont think any mobile company make such a long cable for charging phone . Obviously you have to buy it from 3rd party seller and the link which you shared on this thread is high speed cable which is compatible with branded phones. The only difficulty that you can face is , it can be slightly loose than its original cable.

I bought this one almost two years ago.
http://www.dx.com/p/usb-2-0-to-micr...-xperia-z1-xperia-i1-blue-289123#.Vl7G2dirQ-U
Works just fine with Z5, as well as with Z2 and Dualshock 4.

HDMI out?

can anyone test out the advanced type c features?
I am curious if HDMI out works, and whether this phone can charge another phone when acting as USB host.

mikeymop said:
can anyone test out the advanced type c features?
I am curious if HDMI out works, and whether this phone can charge another phone when acting as USB host.
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it is usb2 type c so i dun think so, i dun have it so i cant confirm, why not wireless? sony removed the mhl function since Xperia x series
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I tried with mine HooToo (URL: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019R9ILTG/ )
No luck, nothing prompt on the phone nor any picture displayed on TV.

They've removed this feature from this phone

Can this feature be added to the Xperia XZ with a mod or a special firmware maybe ?

Connect Xperia to TV using USB-C to HDMI cable? HDMI alt mode capable?

Does the XZ or the XZ Premium support HDMI alternative or alt mode through the USB-C port?
This is what I'm talking about :
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/1/12758384/usb-c-hdmi-alt-mode-cables-specifications

I think Sony dropped MHL support because of the google cast.
Not sure if usb C to HDMI works, but you can find out and let us know

Apparently the Snapdragon 835 natively supports Displayport alt mode.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWlkkM8SkDQ

I've bought this HUB with HDMI recently: https://www.amazon.de/Delivery-Auflösung-Ladefunktion-Macbook-ChromeBook/dp/B01BXOW3V0 but haven't got the HDMI Port to work so far, I'll try again later propably.

Any news?

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Any news?
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I've tried it again but it didn't work. The Device might not support Displayport over USB C at all or we just need to wait for an Software Update.

Check if your device supports Displayport alt mode.
Or you could try it with a Displayport alt mode capable USB-C to HDMI cable or adapter.

C to HDMI cable didn't work.

AndroPlus said:
C to HDMI cable didn't work.
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Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable?
Thanks.

lebigmac said:
Hi @AndroPlus.
Thanks for chiming in.
May I ask which USB-C to HDMI cable you tried to use on your Sony Xperia XZ Premium for direct audiovisual output to TV ?
Is your cable DisplayPort alt mode capable just like this one? This cable here is marketed as DisplayPort alt mode capable and it's supposed to work with Samsung Galaxy S8 which also uses the Snapdragon 835 chipset. So theoretically it should also work with Sony Xperia XZ Premium out of the box.
https://www.amazon.com/Thunderbolt-Compatible-Galaxy-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B01LYS3Q5A
Thanks for the info.
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I used this one (it supports Galaxy S8):
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071FNG86N/
I tried with multiple TV and monitor, but it didn't work.
[UPDATE]
I checked with HTC U11 and it works, so cable itself is good.

Unfortunately I can confirm that the Sony Xperia XZ Premium does not support Displayport alt mode at this moment in time. Perhaps Sony developers might add Displayport support in the near future though but don't hold your breath.
The hardware capability is there thanks to the incredible Snapdragon 835 but for some reason Sony decided to remove this feature through software or rather a lack thereof.
It's a shame really. Now I need to return this phone and buy a flagship smartphone from one of the competitors just to get this displayport functionality.

Hi, Oreo update has been just released for Sony Xperia XZ Premium. Any new info about USB-C to HDMI output compatibility? Can someone test it? Im thinking of buying this phone, but this is a must have feature for me. No luck with Google search.

Ditto-- any news since Oreo update?
Anyone try since the Oreo update? Results?

I just try to plug in the phone with a switch to usb C dock (capable to use with nintendo switch) but it still didn´t work for me, and nothing appears on the screen. The charging and usb are working correctly, so Oreo still haven´t HDMI support for our Phones

I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/xz-premium/how-to/displayport-alt-mode-t3739553

just because a chipset supports something doesn't mean its physically connected, not even having the pins connected on the PCB will determine if it can support it, the hardware could be disabled in multiple locations and supporting chips may not even be present. yes it may well be software limited but don't hold your breath, since time began manufactures have be dropping functions from chipsets

Yes it's possible and feasible. Ignore that lame know-it-all naysayer and doubter above ^^
@Inerent
Thanks for creating a bounty thread for it.
You might want to turn it into a crowd funded fundraiser though.
100 bucks is not much of an incentive for the talented and hard working developers. Keep in mind they do this in their spare time. We must support their hard work.

Lirannl said:
I connected the adapter I bought, and my phone did recognize my TV, but it didn't actually stream video to it.
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How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?

mikeymop said:
How were you able to tell the phone recognized the TV? Was it data transfer protocol maybe?
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I have an app called Sentio desktop. It activates if an external display is connected, or a keyboard is connected. I didn't connect a keyboard at that time, so it must've detected an external display. I tried using OTG for plenty of other things. It doesn't make mistakes. Sentio only launched when I connected a keyboard, not external storage, or even a mouse. Only when I connected a 2 in one (mouse+keyboard) did Sentio launch.
And when I hooked my phone up to the TV with the HDMI cable.
Do you think that that piece of information could be useful in making a kernel mod to make it work?

USB 3.1 Speed?

Slightly confused at the moment
Specs for this phone say USB 3.1 gen 1 but when connecting the phone up to my PC using a USB 3.1 cable and my USB 3 port my PC seems to think its still a USB 2.0 device and operates at that speed
Why am I not seeing USB 3.1?

liamstears said:
Slightly confused at the moment
Specs for this phone say USB 3.1 gen 1 but when connecting the phone up to my PC using a USB 3.1 cable and my USB 3 port my PC seems to think its still a USB 2.0 device and operates at that speed
Why am I not seeing USB 3.1?
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Don't quote me on thins but I think all phones with usb type c still are using USB 2.0 standard in their phone to save cost I guess.

zune70 said:
Don't quote me on thins but I think all phones with usb type c still are using USB 2.0 standard in their phone to save cost I guess.
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the s8 uses usb 3.1

ahamed.rafi135 said:
the s8 uses usb 3.1
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interesting find https://gtrusted.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-seems-to-downgrade-usb-3-1-hubs-speeds

zune70 said:
interesting find https://gtrusted.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-seems-to-downgrade-usb-3-1-hubs-speeds
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interesting

Truly interesting
Samsung wants us to buy only their products to get the best speed on their phones lol
That's what.....is called as...monopolist behaviour lol

If I remember rightly older Samsung phones had an extra USB mode to enable the faster speeds
The HTC has an option in the settings to enable it
Are Samsung just not giving us the feature in software?

zune70,
Did you manage to solve the problem? Im experiencing exactly the same issue and it drives me mad! Im thinking about replacing my phone now...
Thanks!

We can't solve this I am sure for now

Samsung support offers resetting the device. Did anybody try?

Maaaah said:
zune70,
Did you manage to solve the problem? Im experiencing exactly the same issue and it drives me mad! Im thinking about replacing my phone now...
Thanks!
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I really don't use my phone to transfer data through wired connection all that much so I didn't even bother looking into this

mhl/tvout/hdmi

As in topic, does asus zenfone 6 have ability to stream out video through usb to hdmi adapter?
After some time android q will come to this device and it will contain native desktop mode so i would like to use it.

I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?

mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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According to GSMarena it's 2.0.
I looked at the USB diagrams and it appears that alternate modes over USB-C use the same pins as SuperSpeed meaning that you can't have alternate mode without the other (but not vice versa).
Unless I'm missing something, there shouldn't be any display mode. However I'm not sure if the GSMarena data sheet is accurate.

I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?

pawloland said:
I currently have sony xperia z3 compact which has usb 2.0 (micro usb, but this doesn't make change IIRC) and also support mhl (see gsmarena https://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_compact-6538.php). In my opinion it doesn't depend on version of usb which device is equiped with, at least it 's not the main reason for not supporting mhl. The question is, does mhl work on zenfone 6 with (potentially, because i couldn't find any information on asus website) usb 2.0 type c connector?
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Display output via microusb worked differently as the regular port does not have the pins or bandwidth for it. I had an LG G2 which could also output a display signal. I think it's possible to do the same via USB-C but at the same time I think it's simpler to use alternate mode hence the conclusion I came up with. If I have the time I'll go digging around some more later.

I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.

apoklyps3 said:
I opened a ticket with ASUS support and they state none of the models they currently sell (including Zenfone 6) cand output HDMI over usb-C.
they might be stupid though, because ROG phone does.
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It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.

pawloland said:
It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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I looked at a few things and I think I was correct in my first post. While I think it would be technically possible to implement MHL on USB-C like they did on MicroB (it would just piggyback off the necessary pins like it used to do), it doesn't seem like it would make sense to do that and I can't find an adapter/cable that would work in that scenario so you'd need 3.1 because they all require Alternate Mode support. However Alternate Mode is an optional spec so just because a device supports 3.1 doesn't mean it'll support display functionality.
I should also note that the ROG Phone has USB-C 3.1 according to GSMArena.
Another note is that it appears that MHL officially lists MHL as working on USB-C via Alternate Mode.

Meanwhile ASUS launching an external display that is advertised to support input from a mobile phone, but hey, no their latest flagship. they are so dumb they are launching devices that don't their other devices..
why would anyone cheap on using usb2.0 connector, when internally SD855 supports 3.1 and so does UFS2.1, is beyond me. It must save la 0.something to use 2.0 instead of 3.1

pawloland said:
It seems we have to wait untill somebode actually try connecting it to tv to be sure that it doesn't support hdmi output.
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Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging

Xtr3m3ro said:
Test on LG 27uk850W, not working, just charging
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Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?

No native HDMI output for my device using usb-c to hdmi cable.
However I think the Asus portable monitor thingy they announced at computex actually supports data over usb to transfer the image.. but I am not sure at all.

mikek753 said:
I'd like to know the answer as well.
Is it USB 3+ that can do video over type C?
For example One+ 6 has only USB 2.0 over type C, and doesn't support video, while Samsung has USB 3.1 over type C as expected that supports video over type C.
Sure simple type C to HDMI adapter will be needed.
I wasn't able to find any specs for Zen6 type C at all.
any one knows?
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The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.

Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)

hack.causality said:
The OnePlus 6 does support HDMI out with a DisplayLink adapter. It's not great though, as you can't charge it at the same time and it runs the battery down incredibly fast, less than two hours.
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IIRC video output via Displaylink adapter works on every device if it can install displaylink app. Displaylink support doesn't depend on mhl support on specific device. I'm just to clarifying for internet strangers.

gnrsenpai said:
Thanks for confirming it, it's a real downer situation though, I was really expecting to have the possibility to output videos through HDMI and potentially do the same with emulators + bluetooth joysticks (since it can handle even gamecube/wii games thanks to the SD855)
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I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.

pawloland said:
Have you connected it to tv using usb-c/hdmi adaprer or just by usb cable?
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usb-c cable, i use that cable for macbook to have second monitor, and charging

hack.causality said:
I'm right there with you buddy. I was so used to MHL that I never questioned whether newer phones would support it or the type-c equivalent. Trying to find a SD855 phone that charges while outputting video is hard enough, let alone one that's rootable with a headphone jack and a non-curved screen (my preference). I'm beginning to think we're going to have to wait until the holiday season when the ROG Phone 2 comes out. In the meantime I'm half-satisfied by using my tablet (shield) hooked to a monitor and keeping my emulator folders synced with my phone with Dropbox/SyncThing.
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please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack

mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Nubia red magic 3 is your best best. It doesn't support HDMI output yet but apparently they've said they may support it in a software update. It has USB c 3.1. Also 90hz screen, headphone jack, 5000ma battery, SD 855, it even has a CPU fan lol. It's newly out but I think you can install twrp and root it but customs ROMs might be few if any. It's the closest phone I've found to meeting my needs of 3.5mm, SD 855 and HDMI. Only thing it's missing is expandable really.
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mikek753 said:
please, let me know when you find such phone, which :
is rootable, unlocked bootloader
video output to HDMI, with charge if possible
headphone jack
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Specs
https://m.gsmarena.com/zte_nubia_red_magic_3-9692.php
Oh, and it's only £410.......

Hi, any news? Has anyone bought a displaylink product and used it working with the Zenphone 6?