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[Q] Charge Time

I am a bit surprised at how long my shield tablet takes to charge, around 6-8 hours depending on how much battery is left (usually around 20% before I charge).
Is this normal? Or are my expectations a little too high in thinking it would take 2-3 hours to charge?
Many thanks for for answers!!

What charger are you using? Mine doesn't take that long and I'm using NVIIDIA's retail charger (2.1A).

I am using the wall charger that is supplied with the tablet!!
I have spoken with nvidia support about this issue, however they couldn't confirm the charge time for some reason, hence why I am asking here for peoples experience with charging times. Also I have tried googling the answer and haven't found anything!!
Slightly frustrating!!

43 views so far and no answer?
come on people, all I am asking is your charge times for your shield tablets!
pretty please with cream and a cherry on top?

I havn't any exact number for how long the charging take, but I think the charging time has increased with Lollipop. Most of the time it is fully charged over night (6-8 hours) but sometimes it has just charged a few percent.

I have seen some unfortunate charging times as well, but I haven't recorded them or taken note of exactly how long they take. I also have chargers up to 2.1A and thicker gold plated cables I've tried.
Are there any apps I can use to record battery percentage by the minute?

ACharLuk said:
What charger are you using? Mine doesn't take that long and I'm using NVIIDIA's retail charger (2.1A).
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What are we talking about? Time to go to 100% battery or time to go to green led?
There is a 30-45 min time difference between 100% and green led.

When my shield reaches around 20% i'll charge it over night whilst I'm asleep, 6-7 hours later when i wake up i still see the orange led and am surprised at how slow it takes to get to 100%. This is how I noticed the slow recharge time.
Admittedly this is my first tablet, and as stated I'm just surprised and lead me to think maybe the charger that was provided is a dud and/or the tablet is a dud. And no one likes a dud!!
However I just wanted to hear other peoples experiences as maybe the charge time is this long and I've just got too high of an expectation that a device like this should have a charge time of 2-3 hours.
Many thanks for all the responses so far, most appreciated. Keep 'em coming!! :good:

If you want 2 - 3 hours of charging time starting from 15% or 20, you have to get another charger. The stock one is weak. I got a Samsung Note 3 one and after 2 hours and a half, or even less depending the percentage, it's fully charged.

CM17X said:
If you want 2 - 3 hours of charging time starting from 15% or 20, you have to get another charger. The stock one is weak. I got a Samsung Note 3 one and after 2 hours and a half, or even less depending the percentage, it's fully charged.
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^^^This.
Also, I have a Quick Charge 2.0 charger that I found on Amazon that shows whether or not a device is capable of using the Quick Charge 2.0 standard. My nVidia Shield does, in fact, seem to support it, and charges pretty quickly on this charger. I can't say I've ever had the tablet get below 50% or so, but I've never seen it take more than an hour or two to get the Shield's charge indicator to go green with that charger.

jt3 said:
^^^This.
Also, I have a Quick Charge 2.0 charger that I found on Amazon that shows whether or not a device is capable of using the Quick Charge 2.0 standard. My nVidia Shield does, in fact, seem to support it, and charges pretty quickly on this charger. I can't say I've ever had the tablet get below 50% or so, but I've never seen it take more than an hour or two to get the Shield's charge indicator to go green with that charger.
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What's the Output of yours?

CM17X said:
What's the Output of yours?
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18W. However, in the normal 5V mode, it's only 10W, like any other 2A charger.
In QuickCharge 2.0, the device being charged decides if/when the charger uses the 5V, 9V, and/or 12V charging modes. If the device is not QC 2.0 compatible, the charger will ALWAYS charge at 5V. This particular charger indicates when the device has allowed it to shift into the 9V or 12V charging modes (but unfortunately doesn't indicate which). In either of those modes, it's 18W (which incidentally is about 4W more than the Moto "Turbo Charger").
I've seen a 30W charger on Amazon (which is the maximum, according to the standard), but it doesn't have the indicator. This is important to me, because QC 2.0 needs a full data cable to communicate with the device. Accidentally use a charge-only cable, and it will stay in 5V mode. It's nice to have that warning that you've done something wrong.
However, in this case... that indicator showed me that my Shield had a fantastic unadvertised feature (at least as far as I knew).

jt3 said:
18W. However, in the normal 5V mode, it's only 10W, like any other 2A charger.
In QuickCharge 2.0, the device being charged decides if/when the charger uses the 5V, 9V, and/or 12V charging modes. If the device is not QC 2.0 compatible, the charger will ALWAYS charge at 5V. This particular charger indicates when the device has allowed it to shift into the 9V or 12V charging modes (but unfortunately doesn't indicate which). In either of those modes, it's 18W (which incidentally is about 4W more than the Moto "Turbo Charger").
I've seen a 30W charger on Amazon (which is the maximum, according to the standard), but it doesn't have the indicator. This is important to me, because QC 2.0 needs a full data cable to communicate with the device. Accidentally use a charge-only cable, and it will stay in 5V mode. It's nice to have that warning that you've done something wrong.
However, in this case... that indicator showed me that my Shield had a fantastic unadvertised feature (at least as far as I knew).
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So no more words, i'm getting that charger.
Ps: Negative charge while playing, do you face it? It happens on games like HL2 and Sky Gamblers - Storm Raiders.

kf006 said:
When my shield reaches around 20% i'll charge it over night whilst I'm asleep, 6-7 hours later when i wake up i still see the orange led and am surprised at how slow it takes to get to 100%. This is how I noticed the slow recharge time.
Admittedly this is my first tablet, and as stated I'm just surprised and lead me to think maybe the charger that was provided is a dud and/or the tablet is a dud. And no one likes a dud!!
However I just wanted to hear other peoples experiences as maybe the charge time is this long and I've just got too high of an expectation that a device like this should have a charge time of 2-3 hours.
Many thanks for all the responses so far, most appreciated. Keep 'em coming!! :good:
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Seems you have a problem, mine doesn't take more than 4:30 to go from 15% to green light.

Actually, using the stock charger, it only takes mine about 3 hours to fully charge from being dead.

derekmt95 said:
Actually, using the stock charger, it only takes mine about 3 hours to fully charge from being dead.
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I don't think so
Correct me if i'm wrong but the shield battery is 6900mAh.Stock charger is 2.1A... So what you are saying is impossible.

Doesn't charging a battery faster degrades it? Like, the faster you charge it the hotter it gets and the fastest it degrades overtime? And the same can be said of the opposite: the slower the better for the battery longevity?

Judge584 said:
I don't think so
Correct me if i'm wrong but the shield battery is 6900mAh.Stock charger is 2.1A... So what you are saying is impossible.
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You're wrong, it's a 5197 mAh. Stock charger is 2.1A. Battery charge take 4 hours near to 5%, 3 hours near to 15%.
eurominican said:
Doesn't charging a battery faster degrades it? Like, the faster you charge it the hotter it gets and the fastest it degrades overtime? And the same can be said of the opposite: the slower the better for the battery longevity?
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Yeah, high amperage kill your battery faster, take care about "quick recharge" charger. Try to avoid long charge too. Don't forget : 1 cycle on Lion-ion battery don't mean 1 charge = 1 cycle. 1 cycle = 0% to 100%. So you can charge 20 percents at job, 10 percents in train, 70 percents at home.
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kf006 said:
I am a bit surprised at how long my shield tablet takes to charge, around 6-8 hours depending on how much battery is left (usually around 20% before I charge).
Is this normal? Or are my expectations a little too high in thinking it would take 2-3 hours to charge?
Many thanks for for answers!!
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See my post just up there. 6-8 hours is too long, maybe battery fail...

Thanks for all the replies guys, most appreciated!!
I have spoken to Nvidia Customer Care and I thought I would share what they advised me to try (which may or may not help others are experiencing the same issue), not sure if this will work or not, but at least it is something to try -
"We would kindly request you to follow the battery calibration producer mentioned in the steps below, observe the device performance and let us know the result.
You will have to calibrate the battery for just one time and observe the device battery backup for 2-3days to see the changes.
1: Drain your Shield tablet battery by using it normally until it turns off by itself.
2: Power-on your Shield tablet, if it wakes up and if you see some power left, follow step 1.
3: If Shield tablet is now drained to the point it can't wake up, set the device to charge for 7-8 hours.
The device should remain off when you set it for charging here.
4: Unplug the charger after 7-8hours, power on and wait for the battery charge to drop down to 90-95%.
5: Once the device battery drops down to 90-95%, plug in the charger and charge for one complete hour.
6: Unplug the charger once the device is fully charged.
7: Go to Shield settings > Shield power control > Apps> select optimize all option.
8: Go to Shield settings > Shield power control > system>
• Set the brightness to auto.
• Change the sleep option to 2 minutes of inactivity instead of default 10 minutes inactivity.
• Change the processor mode to either optimized or Battery savings.
• Check the Wifi optimization on.
Observe the device performance and report to us if you are still facing issue with the battery backup.
For better battery backup and optimization, you may also consider following steps.
1: Always use the Shield tablet charger and not the computer USB ports or any other charger as the power specifications vary from the device to device.
2: In case if the charger is missing, use the back port of the desktop computer to charge the device instead of front port.
3: Always remember to exit the application instead of tapping the home button which will continue to run the application in the background.
4: Restart your Shield tablet at least once in a week. This will refresh the device making it work faster and efficient.
5: Connect the charger only when the battery comes down to 15% and unplug the charger only when it reaches 90% or above. This will reduce the number of charge cycles which will make battery last longer.
6: Use a third party app manager like Clean Master and free the memory at-least once a day to keep the device running faster. "
Fingers crossed this helps.

Your charger is faulty I believe, same as mine which Amazon and Nvidia themselves said was faulty and I got a partial refund due to that. I would suggest you to get some other charger, that charges at like 2.1A as they charge the tablet ridicolously fast (about 2,5 hours from 20%) and I'm finally able to play games while charging too (however, then it charges at a slower rate).
I made a thread about this not so long ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/shi...k-charger-charges-slow-drops-battery-t2972368

XZ's battery charge time is 2.5 hour from 25%, is it normal?

XZ's battery charge time is 2.5 hour from 25%, is it normal?
I turned on battery care mode.

Battery care is turned on?

Mine also came with a slow charger. When I plug it to my portable battery, it can still be pretty fast (and hot...)

With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.

L3RAT said:
With stock UCH 12 charger it takes my phone about 1,5h to get fully charge. 30min to 60% and 1h for the rest. It seems like Sony disabled any type of QuickCharge above 60% to prevent battery damage and it doesnt matter what type of charger you would use alter that - it will stick to 1000mA all the time.
Two things:
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
Any of those would prolong charging time.
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Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.

jeffreywen said:
Please see my answer are listed below and thanks
1) are you using QuickCharge charger?
Yep.
The charger is UCH12.
2) do you or any of your apps use phone while charging?
No.
I turned off the phone during charging.
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Try to keep it turned on then. I guess Sony could set offline charging to minimal settings and control QuickCharge with software. Try "Ampere" app to check how many ampers are you getting while charging (download from play store, no root required). It should oscillate from 700mA to 2500mA. If not (e.g. stuck at 1000mA) it means your charger could be defective and should be exchange for new one.

man. I got 75% in an hour while the phone was off :/ using the same charger as yours so there must be a problem, try to change the cable

Guys does anyone know if the USB type-C cable which comes with the non-fast charger is 3.0 Quick Charge compatible?? I've ordered a Anker 3.0 Quick Charge charger just wanted to make sure the cable is.

My case is even worse, tales 3 hours to charge from 13% to 97%
I am even using the newest Sony 3A usb c to c quick charger!
What the hell..

XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.

bucho144 said:
XZ support QC 3.0 so it should be able to charge from 0%(theoretically) up to 100% 1h40-1h50 using a QC 3.0.
During my few weeks i've had this phone (recived with UCH20 charger) i tried to test phone's ability to charge quickly and failed it took usually 2-2h20 min with original charger. I've ordered chinese charger (sony's UCH12W is 4 times more expensive, even samsungs and htc chargers are much more cheaper).
During tests (using ampre) i tried to start charging when battery dropped to 10%. I used 2 charges original UCH20,Tronsmart WC1T and 3 USB-C cables 1x original, 1x unknown chinese, 1x tronsmart(original included with a charger).
Conclusion:
UCH20 is slower, Ampere won't show more than 1560mA 10-60/70% then something around 1100mA and 780 or less 90-100%
WC1T is faster, 10-60% 2220mA (or less depends on throttling/temperature) then about 1500mA to 90% and less than 1000mA (usually 500-800mA) 90-100%
Tested with onvo adaptive charging on, stamina off, wifi on, brightness auto (0-40%), there was no difference betwen cables only unknown chinese cable was slightly slower but that is only my opinion. Battery temperature oscylated between 26-37/38°C(Ampere)
This phone will only fast charge up to 60/70% then it slows down a bit and last 10% is slow, it should preserve battery health yet still allow you to charge it quickly when in a hurry so u can use it for another few hours until you'll get back home and plug it for a night.
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Good post, thanks for sharing,
I ve recently brought Anker PowerPort+1 charger QC3.0 compatible and used stock Sony cable and max output I got was 2180mA max using Ampere too.. What my question is now what should the XZ be drawing max? near 3000mA?? Battery care Off.
Ive ordered PortaPow 20AWG cable it states its also QC3.0 compatible so lets see how much it get and if it makes any difference to the charge times.
I will post my results in the next 2 days.

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy S8 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I got problems with it...
Sometimes it charges really quick, like Quick Charge does. But then sometimes it says it needs about 8 hours to charge fully.
Thats why i voted Average 3* and charging speeds sometimes even differs if i plug it out and in again.
EDIT:
With the original charger which came in the box it works fine and needs about 1h and 40m to fully charge.

1 hour 45 mins normal charge with original cable and adapter S8 rocking stock AQF7 not rooted

ShiRaZ1988 said:
With the original charger about 1h and 40m to fully charge.
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OK, the original charger, what is the Voltage & Amperage Output?
Also.....
From 25% to full charge using a QI Wireless Charger and the Original Charger that came with it, how long to full charge?
From 25% to full charge using the USB out on a laptop (.5Amp), how long to full charge?

ShiRaZ1988 said:
I got problems with it...
Sometimes it charges really quick, like Quick Charge does. But then sometimes it says it needs about 8 hours to charge fully.
Thats why i voted Average 3* and charging speeds sometimes even differs if i plug it out and in again.
EDIT:
With the original charger which came in the box it works fine and needs about 1h and 40m to fully charge.
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Hi are you Iranian?
If you doesn't use official Charger of S8 that it's available in Phone Box it's probably correct that your device will not be charged very fast and you have to use the Official and trusted charger of Galaxy s8 that Samsung electronics have confirmed it.

Been using the s8+ for two weeks
Not sure what to say. When i check with Ampere app, it only shows it charges for 1000 maH
I have Xiaomi mi5 which charges for 2000-3000 maH with the same charger
How could samsung lose to Xiaomi?

After the August security patch the fast wireless charging is broken. I have the European version S8 and a choetech wireless fast charger. Does anyone has this problem after the last OTA update?
Just to point out, the fast wireless charging option is activated in the settings but the wireless fast charging is not working, only normal wireless charging.

BRK666 said:
After the August security patch the fast wireless charging is broken. I have the European version S8 and a choetech wireless fast charger. Does anyone has this problem after the last OTA update?
Just to point out, the fast wireless charging option is activated in the settings but the wireless fast charging is not working, only normal wireless charging.
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I was wondering if it was my wireless charger faulty... did you have any source on this bug or it's just your (and mine) experience?

you cant check charging current with ampere app, because Samsung changed charging method a lot after explosive s7.
basically if screen is on charging current drop to ~ 1000mah. and phone use 9v or 12v only if screen is off.
also if you phone charge longer than 2h something is wrong with your charger\wire or phone can't go to sleep properly due to "cancer" apps who prevent full sleep.
But iam here to ask owners of 25watt chargers, is it worth it? how long it takes to charge it with it?
i not sure if link are allowed here but here it is https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...apter-for-galaxy-tabpro-s-25w-ep-ta300cweguj/

XDA_RealLifeReview said:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Samsung Galaxy S8 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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1 and half hour and 1 t0 11

Mine charged from 0-100 in around 1:45

Here, Im using Alexis ROM and I hace adaptive fast charge original. Chargimg time: 1-100 in 1.51 hr Its Okay?

How will Quick Charge 3.0 affect battery capacity?

QC 2.0 completely wrecked my battery on my S7 due to it always becoming very hot while charging with the option enabled. Still the case with the U11's QC 3.0? Should I leave it off most of the time?

xDark_ said:
QC 2.0 completely wrecked my battery on my S7 due to it always becoming very hot while charging with the option enabled. Still the case with the U11's QC 3.0? Should I leave it off most of the time?
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You can't manually turn QC on and off on HTC devices. However, you can use older HTC chargers without QC support.

xDark_ said:
QC 2.0 completely wrecked my battery on my S7 due to it always becoming very hot while charging with the option enabled. Still the case with the U11's QC 3.0? Should I leave it off most of the time?
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Only thing I know is the only time I have had problems with an HTC battery is with the HTC One M9. It barely lasted a year but I was able to use the warranty to get the whole phone replaced through my Verizon insurance. I have heard other have problems with the M9 battery as well, haven't had or seen any problems with the HTC 10 battery.

HTC 10 doesn't show any signs of degradation and it got about 10 degrees hotter than the U11 does when it's charging and has half the actual battery life so it was always on the charger. Heat isn't the biggest battery killer, full charge and discharge is. Lithium ion batteries should float between 5 and 90% ideally and you should never leave a fully charged battery on the charger as the trickle charge keeps it at max capacity and wears it out faster. Smartphones are among the few devices that continue to charge the battery after it hits 100% - I use high drain lithium ion batteries in my vape mods and the external charger and internal balance charger on my DNA 250 will actually stop charging at 100% and when I wake up will be around 98-99% which means the stress on the batteries stopped at the correct 4.2v and naturally dropped.
I wouldn't worry about the heat as much as the other factors.

xDark_ said:
QC 2.0 completely wrecked my battery on my S7 due to it always becoming very hot while charging with the option enabled. Still the case with the U11's QC 3.0? Should I leave it off most of the time?
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The major improvement comes from QC3.0 is improved heat, the charging speed between QC2.0 and QC3.0 is small to none.
I've only got a QC2.0 powerbank can't test QC3.0 but since I never use the U11 when it is in QC2.0 charging mode, the hot is low to me. If you will run the phone with charging therefore QC3.0 is a must.

the Quick charging kills the battery
to have the longest life span it is best to use a charger with 1 ma output such as iphone chargers
charge it quickly only when you really need the battery I did that with my 2 year old note 5
and the degradation after two years is some way between 30 and 20 % which is acceptable after two years

AlMaghraby said:
the Quick charging kills the battery
to have the longest life span it is best to use a charger with 1 ma output such as iphone chargers
charge it quickly only when you really need the battery I did that with my 2 year old note 5
and the degradation after two years is some way between 30 and 20 % which is acceptable after two years
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Actually quick charging doesn't, over charging does. Charging the battery and internal temperature gets too high as well. It is even said these batteries run better and last longer when not fully charged.

Slow Charging!

My 1.5 year olf Q6 is charging very slowly. The battery backup is still 1 day. But the charging rate is very slowly. It shows 3hrs+ for a full charge! What can I do?

anirudhs2owner said:
My 1.5 year olf Q6 is charging very slowly. The battery backup is still 1 day. But the charging rate is very slowly. It shows 3hrs+ for a full charge! What can I do?
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get a minimum 2 Amps charger, this phone supports quickcharging (at least thats what i see, and what others said). the stock cable is fine but you might have to try another cable if your charger is already a quickcharge compatible. i can charge from 0 to full in about an hour with 2 amps, you might get better result with a better charger brick but i can't confirm.

I have a V30+ charging brick. That's QC 3.0 Will it work? EDIT: just tried it. It doesn't work. My phone has never shown Fast charging. It just shows charging. The stock brick is 5V1.2amps.
Which brick do you have?

anirudhs2owner said:
I have a V30+ charging brick. That's QC 3.0 Will it work? EDIT: just tried it. It doesn't work. My phone has never shown Fast charging. It just shows charging. The stock brick is 5V1.2amps.
Which brick do you have?
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i forgot to tell you it won't show anything that tells you its on quickcharging, the only thing that shows is the faster charge estimation, please try again and observe. my charger brick is a samsung adaptive fast charging with 2amps maximum rating, your charger should be better than mine. borrow another fast charge compatible brick if necessary, and also cable quality matters. else, welp might be hardware issues...

Tried a fresh cable and the stock charger. The old original cable was the culprit for the slow charging time. Charging time has come back to original fast levels. But it's the same with the V30+ charging brick. Don't have another phone that's QC. But will try if I get an opportunity

I'm using Battery saver in Maximum mode (with VIbration enabled) + Comfort View (highest level) with Grayscale. With moderate usage, it takes two days to drain the battery after fully. Though I recharge it at end of every day for an hour for the battery durability. I've also replaced Home with 'ap15 launcher which for me has proved lightest and most practical one.

My lg q6 canadian variant came with fast charging. It's region dependent. Though i don't know if you had fast charge on your variant

Same as my DSK unit. Charging slowly for about 5-6 hour with original wall charger