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$40 USB "Qi" charger found

Couldn't find this in a forum search
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
Says Qi and works with N4, but can't find it in the Qi site and there's no Qi symbol on it, so probably not approved (but neither are all the N4's currently out there [pre-rev 12])
$40 shipped and could be the basis of an in-car solution...
Anyone tried it?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
Same item it looks like just different description and what not - from the same vendor.

parker09 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862
Same item it looks like just different description and what not - from the same vendor.
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Yup, I (re)found the USB version.

Fasttech USB Qi Charger
Ordered mine today, says 10-14 days shipping directly from fasttech. When I get it ill throw up some pics and a review on how it works.

WibblyW said:
Couldn't find this in a forum search
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
Says Qi and works with N4, but can't find it in the Qi site and there's no Qi symbol on it, so probably not approved (but neither are all the N4's currently out there [pre-rev 12])
$40 shipped and could be the basis of an in-car solution...
Anyone tried it?
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On an unrelated note, I've never heard of this website before, it looks very promising! I have a feeling I will be throwing my money at my screen soon.

Looking forward to a review!

wow. this looks very clean OP.
anticipating some pictures and review.

More detail and N4 references here
http://mcpower2012.en.ecplaza.net/2013-5v-usb-qi-wireless--356088-2839504.html

Found another thread for something very similar: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2074862

Efficient output is just 500-700mA? Too small to charge N4?
I thought the standard one is around 1A or over.
Thanks.

500-700 mA is perfectly ok for charging. When you charge from a computer via USB, the max current is 500 mA unless you use kernel tweaks.
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ma678 said:
Efficient output is just 500-700mA? Too small to charge N4?
I thought the standard one is around 1A or over.
Thanks.
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It's got to depend on the output (mA) the USB power adaptor has to offer too. They even show it connected to a laptop USB port. So I think it WILL charge, but maybe significantly slower than a direct power connection.
By using a lower output USB power supply, sounds like you might be able to trade charge speed with temperature rise. If so it may be ideal as a charger to keep your phone topped up. Kind of like a low power trickle charger, which would be fine if my phone is on it most of the day... I actually don't like the idea of Qi chargers that make the phone get hot - seems to be trading convenience and wear on the phone's USB connector with reduced battery service life as it keeps going through nasty heat cycles?
Decided to risk it and order one
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jkoljo said:
500-700 mA is perfectly ok for charging. When you charge from a computer via USB, the max current is 500 mA unless you use kernel tweaks.
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not sure about that, it might charge If your not doing anything, but say if using gps it might not supply enough juice to charge fast enough
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BrianDigital said:
not sure about that, it might charge If your not doing anything, but say if using gps it might not supply enough juice to charge fast enough
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I agree, Used in a car with GPS on, maybe pulling 3G data for maps, bright screen, etc., it's likely that despite this charger, the phone will slowly go flat. And get hot doing so... All that energy from the battery/charger has to go somewhere - mainly heat once the battery is charged. If the phone's consuming, say 750mA at around 4.1v battery voltage, that's around 3W of heat to dissipate.

I am investing time looking for a Qi charger but that problem appears to be present on several cheap alternatives, the current they supply is not enough, or you might expend a couple of extra hours charging your phone

Just a quick update, ordered from fast tech on Jan 29th and received shipping notification today (Jan. 31st), registered airmail with tracking from Hong Kong post.
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I do have this wireless charger. Ordered from aliexpress, it's always the same with different branding and logos.
It does the job, charging.
But:
Need to be very precise when positioning it
Back glass make the phone sliding, and cancel all the effort offered in the above point, making the phone not charging
I recommend to wait for a charger with more than only one wireless charging chip/antenna.

Ok I have this charger now. On first charge and working ok so far... Seems to be best in this position. Has now cut off an an indicated 99%...
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Lining up the edge of the charger with where the bottom of the LCD is, seems reliable. Using an XtremeGuard style protector on the back, which gives enough friction to stop sliding if the charger is horizontal and the phone vibrates.
Above is FastTech image. I'm using stock N7 charger and cable at the moment because it was handy. Unit came with a USB charger and cable (with EU plug - I'm UK based)
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Picked up phone and used it to 98%. Returned to charger and it charged back to 99%, but didn't beep this time when charging started. Maybe it needs to be more discharged before this happens....
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Now at 100%. Charger seems to poll the Nexus about every 30 secs (solid blue light for a few secs) to see if it needs charging. Then light goes off. When it charges, the blue light flashes slowly but continuously.

Did anybody try the Large models?
For some reason they are cheaper even though they come in black or white and have the Qi logo/writing on it.

facetubespam said:
Did anybody try the Large models?
For some reason they are cheaper even though they come in black or white and have the Qi logo/writing on it.
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They are reported to work. I wanted the flexibility of being able to use alternate sources of power (car, pc, wall adaptor). have yet to try limited power available from a PC's USB port...

QI charger in UK

I picked this charger up and it works great with my N4.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00ANA8TA0/ref=wms_ohs_product
Its a tiny bit picky with a case on, and if you put the phone down on the white LEG panel at the top, but otherwise brilliant.
I'll try and run the phone down low, and get a screen shot showing charging time. I don't think its that much slower than the wire (and I leave my screen on when charging)

Thanks. I bought one and it even works with the official bumper and stick on plastic cover on the back. However, the flashing blue light is annoying. I might have to open it up and disconnect it.

bbilko said:
I picked this charger up and it works great with my N4.
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Same as this one I think:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1197503
They ship to the UK for free, so about £22 delivered.
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footboydog said:
... However, the flashing blue light is annoying. I might have to open it up and disconnect it.
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Just had to say I feel your pain... I don't understand why the manufacturer decided to fit an LED that lights up the entire room to show the thing is charging
I'm using it as a stop gap until the Orb is released here, I use to have a Galaxy Nexus with the desk top dock, really miss not being able to tell the time from a glance during the night.

andynx1 said:
Same as this one I think:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1197503
They ship to the UK for free, so about £22 delivered.
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This is exactly what I have:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1197504
The USB one is tempting, will be much slower I imagine.

bbilko said:
This is exactly what I have:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1197504
The USB one is tempting, will be much slower I imagine.
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I am not expert in electrical matters, but would it be possible to use the USB version in conjunction with the Nexus 4 USB power adapter?

esskayy said:
I am not expert in electrical matters, but would it be possible to use the USB version in conjunction with the Nexus 4 USB power adapter?
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http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
5V is 5V, but the USB Qi charger asks for 2A in and that's more than the N4 charger gives (I think)
Its also more than a USB 2 port can give, they are limited to 500mA normally.
USB3 can give that kind of output.
Less Amps = slower charge

bbilko said:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1215400
5V is 5V, but the USB Qi charger asks for 2A in and that's more than the N4 charger gives (I think)
Its also more than a USB 2 port can give, they are limited to 500mA normally.
USB3 can give that kind of output.
Less Amps = slower charge
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Hmmm...fortunately I have a USB 3 port, would that mean I'll get a similar charge time as using the mains version?

Damn, sadly my memory failed me and it seems USB3 can only give 900mA.
Sorry to get hopes up, but I think you'd get a faster charge from a wall socket.
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OK I opened the sucker up and had a look. There are 4 screws under the rubber pads on the bottom and another four under the white sticker:
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There's a semi-circle of tiny LEDs at the top marked D1-D12. I tried desoldering D9 and D10 but in the end I just ripped them out with tweezers because my soldering skills are seriously lacking. After putting it all back together surprisingly it still worked and it doesn't light up anymore! The LEDs must have been connected in series to each other but in parallel to the rest of the charger.
Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you open up your qi wireless charger and electrocute your cat or something. Follow these instructions at your own risk.
EDIT: Nope it still lights up, just less so. Why won't it die!?

I have the latest tasker beta setup to vibrate when wireless charging goes on and off, makes it easy to tell when its working when you can't see the leds
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bbilko said:
This is exactly what I have:
http://www.fasttech.com/products/1154/10001946/1197504
The USB one is tempting, will be much slower I imagine.
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If the specs are right it looks like the USB one puts out ~3.5W vs the more normal 5W, so is a bit slower.
Its not really clear why it is lower power (even if the losses are higher a 1.5 or 2A 5v charger would be powerful enough). Maybe the limit is whatever step up conversion they use to increase the 5v for transmission.
Google's help site says the nexus 4 charger is 1.2A (I thought it was 1.5), but this should still work fine with this Qi charger. If it turns out it can put out more like 5W then you would be slightly better off with a 2A charger.
I am quite tempted by this USB one anyway because it is a bit more flexible - you can use other sources such as batteries or even a pc. Most of the other ones (besides the nokia) use 19v so you cant use much besides the included mains adapter.
Anyway, thanks for the links in this thread - I had been considering buying the same one as you but from mobilefun for more money.

Anyone tested this with a bumper? Also, has the phone to be centered to work with it?

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Anyone tested this with a bumper? Also, has the phone to be centered to work with it?
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It's a little fussy about positioning and it might take a few seconds before it "notices" the phone but yes it works with the bumper

This charger does NOT work with the Rearth Ringke Fusion case.

Wireless charging

The only thing stopping this from being a perfect phone is wireless charging.
Maybe Sony will release an add-on to give it Qi capabilities?
How about using the Qi adapter into the micro-sd connector route? Would it retain waterproofing if it was plugged in?

The Z premium is powered by Qualcomms latest snapdragon 810 chipset. There is also another news is that smartphone has three version like premimum ,compact and Sony Xperia Z5.There are 3 generous GB of DDR4 RAM in the flagship, and 32 GB of storage, along with a microSD card slot for expansion. This feature must to be add waterproof quality.THat is why it may be the extraordinary feature.
Read more at http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...e-with-4K-display_id73255#bO21YDYjzgybzq3x.99

The solution is to use this adapter with a case.
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The wireless charging
yes its a useful information

peachpuff said:
The solution is to use this adapter with a case.
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Will the phone still be waterproof if something is plugged into the micro-USB port?

gregk232 said:
Will the phone still be waterproof if something is plugged into the micro-USB port?
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No idea, i would assume that it wouldn't matter if anything is plugged into it, however that adapter isn't really dubbed as being waterproof so while the phone is waterproof the adapter certainly isn't.

HIi
I think your information is very informative and your information is given below again ( Posted by gregk232
Will the phone still be waterproof if something is plugged into the micro-USB port?)

May I ask why you want wireless charging?
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USB port on the Z5 isn't covered with a rubber flap, so it must be able to withstand water bridging the wires in there, so I think it's safe to assume, as long as no power is applied until it's completely dry, just having something plugged in shouldn't hurt it . Though, as stated, the Qi receiver itself may not fair so well.
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Ben36 said:
May I ask why you want wireless charging?
1) Convenience: It seemed silly to me too until I tried it, but it's actually way more convenient than plugging/unplugging all day. Just set your phone down and it's 100% when you're ready to go. I have a couple at the house and one at the office, now my phone rarely spends any time out of my hands not charging.
2) Durability: My girlfriend finally had to give up her Galaxy Active because the one part that wasn't bulletproof was the USB port. Once that gave out the phone was useless, but if it had Qi charging, with reduced wear it'd still be running fine. Additionally, Qi lets you charge (nearly) regardless of cases, unlike docks, which I usually had to take phone out of to fit in a dock. ...Which is why my Nexus 4 was naked when I dropped it. I wised up, got a Nexus 5 and a few Qi chargers, and have never had the N5 out of a case since.
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Infuriating
Its so frustrating when companies go backwards with tech; big names like Sony should be able to add things to their products not take them away! The Z3 had magnetic charging and even my Z1 which is due for upgrade soon has a magnetic charging port.....! It doesn't seem like the Z5 has come on leaps and bounds since the Z1 which I would have expected by now!

I tried the wireless Qi card on the Z5, it works out to be about 10+% per hour but the phone really heats up.
Decided against it and went back to charging the normal way.

It's a shame that they removed the Magnetic Dock i was already planing on buying that phone, but after i saw it today in a Store i'm really not so sure anymore if i will actually buy it :/
I think i will just sit this one out and wait for the Z6 and hope that Sony will listen to us customers and give us the dock back or add qi charging into the phone without something from a third party.

Don't think magnetic charging will come back....

You might be interested in this, I think its due out by January.
Turns your micro usb into a magnetic port.
More info:
http://www.znaps.net/

oh yes i have got some outstanding information from you.Thank you very much

I really don't like the location of the power adapter on the phone.
The length of the cable is also to short.
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Duvel999 said:
I really don't like the location of the power adapter on the phone.
The length of the cable is also to short.
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Well, just use another USB cable then...
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Every Z+ they become shorter
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Micro USB to magnetic charging
King p1n said:
You might be interested in this, I think its due out by January.
Turns your micro usb into a magnetic port.
I found that is similar and already available. Did not test it yet but order it. It is quite the same but on the market
aliexpress website item number 32369279330
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To be honest, I charge my phone once a day, when I go to bed. I had Wireless charging on my Note 3, I don't have it on my Z5... and I don't miss it

Case with Qi coil built in?

Is there a case available with a Qi coil built in, so I can slot in the 6P into the case which will have a type C connector on the bottom and will allow me to charge the phone wirelessly? This would be a good solution to avoid wasting my investment in my Qi desk chargers and Qi car docks.

I've not seen one but that would charge very slowly. Probably not a problem for an overnight charge but you would never be able to quickly burst charge your phone with Qi.
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i am not sure but i don't think it's possible. the phone itself would have to be qi compatible in the first place so.... yea

Do you mean a case like this http://www.nillkin.com/uploads//2015041619382673499.jpg

tokenbest said:
i am not sure but i don't think it's possible. the phone itself would have to be qi compatible in the first place so.... yea
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It very easily possible that a company can create a case with QI wireless built in. They currently make several different modes for the iphone. Welcome to xda
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

2swizzle said:
It very easily possible that a company can create a case with QI wireless built in. They currently make several different modes for the iphone. Welcome to xda
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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I see what you are talking about/referring to now. Didn't think that would work. would be cool as well but did not use any wireless charging before so i guess i shall stick to the conventional wire charging

tokenbest said:
I see what you are talking about/referring to now. Didn't think that would work. would be cool as well but did not use any wireless charging before so i guess i shall stick to the conventional wire charging
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I've only used wireless charging for the last two years, so going back to the cord is going to suck for me...
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Basically I just want a case with a Qi coil built in and this coil has a USB-C connector that you plug in the 6P, like someone mentioned they make cases like this for the iPhone so it is possible, if you search for "qi chip micro usb" on Amazon you will see the adaptor for example. I would like either an adaptor or a case with the coil built in so I can just slide the 6P into a connector that is built into the bottom of the case. Charging time is not an issue because this is for overnight charging and for when the phone is docked on my Qi car dock during navigation.

hithereperson said:
Basically I just want a case with a Qi coil built in and this coil has a USB-C connector that you plug in the 6P, like someone mentioned they make cases like this for the iPhone so it is possible, if you search for "qi chip micro usb" on Amazon you will see the adaptor for example. I would like either an adaptor or a case with the coil built in so I can just slide the 6P into a connector that is built into the bottom of the case. Charging time is not an issue because this is for overnight charging and for when the phone is docked on my Qi car dock during navigation.
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There will be a Qi sticker that will fit under a case.

Just curious to those who uses the wireless charging since i have never used it before..
How long does it take to charge your phone using a wireless charger? (Any fast charging wireless charger out there?)
And does it consumes more power to charge a phone because they may be less efficient than normal cable charging?
Thanks

tokenbest said:
Just curious to those who uses the wireless charging since i have never used it before..
How long does it take to charge your phone using a wireless charger? (Any fast charging wireless charger out there?)
And does it consumes more power to charge a phone because they may be less efficient than normal cable charging?
Thanks
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Fast wireless charging is only on the new Samsung phones. The Nexus 6 I have now will charge at 1A via qi so it charges kn about 3 hours but that's fine when I goto bed at night. Wireless charing is less efficient because you lose more power due in the form of heat which is why the speed is limited more than a cable

tech_head said:
There will be a Qi sticker that will fit under a case.
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That's what I'm looking for, a wireless charging receiver to be placed inside the case.

tokenbest said:
Just curious to those who uses the wireless charging since i have never used it before..
How long does it take to charge your phone using a wireless charger? (Any fast charging wireless charger out there?)
And does it consumes more power to charge a phone because they may be less efficient than normal cable charging?
Thanks
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Takes a while. It's best for overnight charging or just trickle charging on your desk. If you're in a pinch and need juice, plugging it into just about anything would be faster. Most have a max output of 1A at 5V, so 5 watts, the input usually 2A at 5V, so 10 watts input. Samsung just came out with a faster wireless charger that has a freaking fan inside of it. Not sure of output and what the hardware requirements are for it. May be limited to S6 Edge+/ Note 5. It's purely a convenience. I never used it until my Nexus 6. For me its more of a pain in the arse since the nexus 6 has a curved back. Having an easel type would be best. It's harder to get it just right on the flat hockey puck looking chargers. Unfortunately for me, I have 2 hockey pucks... But the Samsung one I have has a larger pad so it works first time most times.
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tokenbest said:
i am not sure but i don't think it's possible. the phone itself would have to be qi compatible in the first place so.... yea
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Why would it ?
The coils create the current via induction, you can charge or power anything with a +/- terminals, as long as you feed the +/- correctly via the USB port or directly soldered to the batter terminals its will charge due to having a small amount of electricity to supply it.
There is no need for magical software to control it, you can try for your self, wire a LED to a QI coil and put it on a charger and boom the LED lights up.
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2swizzle said:
It very easily possible that a company can create a case with QI wireless built in. They currently make several different modes for the iphone. Welcome to xda
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_3&sr=8-3
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0... 6 wireless&qid=1444225047&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1
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Am I missing something here or what ... You have to keep something plugged in to use this? So if you want a quick charge you have to unplug it, then replug it to use a wireless charger?
Wow... Kind of defeats the purpose if so
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Bigal77 said:
Am I missing something here or what ... You have to keep something plugged in to use this? So if you want a quick charge you have to unplug it, then replug it to use a wireless charger?
Wow... Kind of defeats the purpose if so
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I don't think think it defeats the purpose at all. I think most of the time the Qi would be plugged in but occasionally pulled out when you needed a large, quick charge. It would help if there was a place to retract or dock the Qi cable and I'd also be a bit concerned about the overall thickness.

NCguy said:
I don't think think it defeats the purpose at all. I think most of the time the Qi would be plugged in but occasionally pulled out when you needed a large, quick charge. It would help if there was a place to retract or dock the Qi cable and I'd also be a bit concerned about the overall thickness.
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With 3450mah...I think I'll be fine with a 20 minute quick charge.
I plug in every night anyway... Not really for me.... Especially with reversible cable.I guess I understand goggles reasoning. I prefer finding solutions for all day battery life then laying it flat to charge wirelessly. At 5 or 6 sot time were almost there for the heaviest of users
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hutzdani said:
Why would it ?
The coils create the current via induction, you can charge or power anything with a +/- terminals, as long as you feed the +/- correctly via the USB port or directly soldered to the batter terminals its will charge due to having a small amount of electricity to supply it.
There is no need for magical software to control it, you can try for your self, wire a LED to a QI coil and put it on a charger and boom the LED lights up.
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This means you would have to open your brand new Nexus 6P in order to install it. Not saying it wont work but I think this means loosing your warranty tho.
My opinion is that one is better off getting a compatible wireless charging phone instead of going through the trouble.

Bigal77 said:
With 3450mah...I think I'll be fine with a 20 minute quick charge.
I plug in every night anyway... Not really for me.... Especially with reversible cable.I guess I understand goggles reasoning. I prefer finding solutions for all day battery life then laying it flat to charge wirelessly. At 5 or 6 sot time were almost there for the heaviest of users
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I could probably drain in and still only get 3 hours SOT knowing me... I used to get 5 hours SOT kb my Nexus 6 until I started syncing my emails and other stuff ontop of having my AW wath paired to it all day.

[email protected] said:
This means you would have to open your brand new Nexus 6P in order to install it. Not saying it wont work but I think this means loosing your warranty tho.
My opinion is that one is better off getting a compatible wireless charging phone instead of going through the trouble.
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Or maybe you won't have too open your phone after all... I think I understand the concept now! :good:

Anyone have luck with a qi receiver?

Has anyone had any luck getting a qi receiver to work? I really miss wireless charging on my Nexus 6. I've tried 3 different receivers from Amazon and none of them seem to actually charge the phone. Two of them showed slowly charging but didn't actually charge.

hrmax said:
Has anyone had any luck getting a qi receiver to work? I really miss wireless charging on my Nexus 6. I've tried 3 different receivers from Amazon and none of them seem to actually charge the phone. Two of them showed slowly charging but didn't actually charge.
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Um. I don't think the phone supports wireless charging. Or am I wrong?

The PH-1 does NOT support wireless charging.
The closest thing you're gonna get is when their charging dock comes out which will charge the phone through the 2 pogo pins on the back of the phone.

Lol there's no Qi coil in the phone.
They have their own magnetic dock thing coming soon. It's not Qi.

I think the OP is aware of that. He said he tried Qi Receivers, which are add-on strips you can get to add wireless charging capability to your phone through usb. I've used them in the past but never had good luck with them since they charge slower than the phone consumes power.

minotauri said:
I think the OP is aware of that. He said he tried Qi Receivers, which are add-on strips you can get to add wireless charging capability to your phone through usb. I've used them in the past but never had good luck with them since they charge slower than the phone consumes power.
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Good catch, I missed that.
Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk

minotauri said:
I think the OP is aware of that. He said he tried Qi Receivers, which are add-on strips you can get to add wireless charging capability to your phone through usb. I've used them in the past but never had good luck with them since they charge slower than the phone consumes power.
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I've had decent luck in the past and don't really need it to charge fast. I want to drop it on my bedside qi charger as long as it charges to full overnight.

Had luck with this one on a Moto Z.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireles...456937&hash=item4b12e4a045:g:l3YAAOSw4CFYt~NR

tech_head said:
Had luck with this one on a Moto Z.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireles...456937&hash=item4b12e4a045:g:l3YAAOSw4CFYt~NR
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Thanks. May be worth it a try for that price. Looks similar to one from Amazon that I did try but sent back.

When you plug a Qi receiver in, pull down your Notifications bar. Do you see a notice that says USB is Supplying Power to the Attached Device?

kent1146 said:
When you plug a Qi receiver in, pull down your Notifications bar. Do you see a notice that says USB is Supplying Power to the Attached Device?
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I don't see any abnormal notifications. It shows charging slowly on the lock screen and the battery meter seems to indicate that it's charging. However, the battery decreases as it sits on the charger as if it's not really charging at all.

More details, please.
hrmax said:
Has anyone had any luck getting a qi receiver to work? I really miss wireless charging on my Nexus 6. I've tried 3 different receivers from Amazon and none of them seem to actually charge the phone. Two of them showed slowly charging but didn't actually charge.
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I'm working on the same solution and coming up empty as well. Here's what I've tried so far.
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CHGeek qi Receiver from Amazon
Nillkin "Magic Tag" qi Receiver from Amazon
Neither of the above receivers did ANYTHING for my PH-1 with this Samsung charger, meaning that the charging pad didn't even acknowledge that a receiver was on it. However, it charges my Samsung S6 just fine.
Samsung charging pad
However, this Samsung Fast Charger acknowledges both receivers. The PH-1 indicates that it is "Charging slowly" on the home screen, and "Charging on AC" on the Battery screen. Nonetheless, the charge rate is so slow that the phone consumes energy faster than the receiver charges.
Samsung Fast Charger
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The CHGeek qi Receiver included instructions to only use the receiver with a 2- or 3-coil fast charger. That would likely explain why the Samsung charging pad didn't acknowledge the receiver. Furthermore, if the Samsung Fast Charger is only a 2-coil charger, that might explain why the PH-1 indicates that it is "Charging slowly".
So, my questions for the OP:
Which receivers did you try?
Which charger(s) did you try?
Were any of your chargers 3-coil chargers?

A little more info:
The PH-1 charger includes these details on its base.
27W USB
AC ADAPTER MADE IN CHINA
MODEL: KSA-27A-090300HU
INPUT: 100-240v~50/60HZ 0.7A
OUTPUT: 5V===3A OR 9V===3A
The specs on both of the receivers I've tried are:
Output:5V/1A(Max)
Charge Efficiency:≥70%
There's a distinct supply and demand mismatch IMO.

Make your voice heard
I tried using this Incipio 3-coil charger and it did not improve the receiver's output. I have contacted Essential and Mophie asking them to make a case that supports wireless charging via the pogo pins. If Mophie makes a case, it'll likely support their Charge Force Powerstation and Charge Force Powerstation Mini.

jamesuhl said:
I'm working on the same solution and coming up empty as well. Here's what I've tried so far.
So, my questions for the OP:
Which receivers did you try?
Which charger(s) did you try?
Were any of your chargers 3-coil chargers?
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I noticed that when I put the essential phone on the charging pad it keeps blinking, which means "unrecognized device". When I put other phones without wireless charging ability on the pad, the pad light doesn't blink at all.
That seems to me the essential phone itself has sort of built-in wireless charging/transmitting module.
Thus I suspect this built-in module interfere with the additional wireless charging receiver and prevent it from working with the charging pad.
Here is one experiment you could do:
try to move the receiver away from the back of the essential phone and see whether it could charge on the charging pad.

tekowwin said:
I noticed that when I put the essential phone on the charging pad it keeps blinking, which means "unrecognized device". When I put other phones without wireless charging ability on the pad, the pad light doesn't blink at all.
That seems to me the essential phone itself has sort of built-in wireless charging/transmitting module.
Thus I suspect this built-in module interfere with the additional wireless charging receiver and prevent it from working with the charging pad.
Here is one experiment you could do:
try to move the receiver away from the back of the essential phone and see whether it could charge on the charging pad.
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Good observation and good suggestion!
I already returned the receivers.
Also, I got canned responses back from Mophie and Essential about wireless charging.

jamesuhl said:
Good observation and good suggestion!
I already returned the receivers.
Also, I got canned responses back from Mophie and Essential about wireless charging.
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well that's expected, considering the essential phone community is so small at this time.
if my suspect about the built-in module is true, I'd say they did such a great job to screw up all possibilities of wireless charging.

tech_head said:
Had luck with this one on a Moto Z.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireles...456937&hash=item4b12e4a045:g:l3YAAOSw4CFYt~NR
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This one actually worked! It's a little long and covers the fingerprint scanner. However, I just folded over the thin cord back on itself and stuffed it under my Tudia case. Slight bulge but seems to work fine.

hrmax said:
This one actually worked! It's a little long and covers the fingerprint scanner. However, I just folded over the thin cord back on itself and stuffed it under my Tudia case. Slight bulge but seems to work fine.
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just to confirm:
did you get it work with the essential phone or the moto z?

Got more info?
hrmax said:
tech_head said:
Had luck with this one on a Moto Z.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireles...456937&hash=item4b12e4a045:g:l3YAAOSw4CFYt~NR
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This one actually worked! It's a little long and covers the fingerprint scanner. However, I just folded over the thin cord back on itself and stuffed it under my Tudia case. Slight bulge but seems to work fine.
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Got pics?
Got details on the charger?