Since the Pixel in Google store is all sold out and will be delayed by 6 to 8 weeks, is anyone going to pick up the vzw one? I am tempted but its the bootloader that is unlockable swaying my way from vzw. Looks like I will be waiting 6 to 8 weeks......
I would have bought 2 from VZW, instead had to get them from Google because of the locked bootloader bs.
mdmogren said:
I would have bought 2 from VZW, instead had to get them from Google because of the locked bootloader bs.
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So they are saying it's impossible to break the bootloader?
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lucky_strike33 said:
So they are saying it's impossible to break the bootloader?
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It's way too soon to call it "impossible" -- but we definitely can't count on it, and I'm not risking my $800 phone being bootloader locked.
Work will pay for my phone only if I order through Verizon, so unless I can sell it NIB (which I don't know if I am allowed) and turn around and buy the Play Store version, I am pretty much stuck with a locked down phone. Here's hoping that an unofficial unlock happens at some point.
I have one on the way from VZW. Will be here in 2 days. I don't care that it's locked. Silver FTW.
NetworkingPro said:
I have one on the way from VZW. Will be here in 2 days. I don't care that it's locked. Silver FTW.
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I thought won't be out till the 20th.
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NetworkingPro said:
I have one on the way from VZW. Will be here in 2 days. I don't care that it's locked. Silver FTW.
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BS.
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Hmmm... I'm thinking the same.
I got my 128 in black before the preorder page officially launched, still said Oct 21-24. I work for vzw but there's no way I'd buy it thru them simply bc I want an unlocked bootloader!! But the vzw ones aren't shipping until later in the month as well...
Is the locked bootloader the only difference between the VZW and google store model? Well, only difference for now...we'll see when the first update comes.
Signed...still angry about my VZW Galaxy Nexus
lanternca said:
Is the locked bootloader the only difference between the VZW and google store model? Well, only difference for now...we'll see when the first update comes.
Signed...still angry about my VZW Galaxy Nexus
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Every Verizon phone I've owned came packed with Verizon bloatware. NFL Mobile, VZ Navigator and a whole bunch of other trash. I imagine the same will be true with their pixel.
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Every Verizon phone I've owned came packed with Verizon bloatware. NFL Mobile, VZ Navigator and a whole bunch of other trash. I imagine the same will be true with their pixel.
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Found this. Says it'll be VZ Messages, VZ, and Go90. I could live with that actually, but not going to matter since I switched to AT&T anyway
http://www.droid-life.com/2016/10/06/verizons-bloatware-pixel-will-minimal-maybe-just-3-apps/
I have one coming from the google store and one from verizon. MY girl is still on verizon so it made sense to get it on payment plan plus 100 gift card at best buy. i dont need to unlock her phone... so it makes sense
jerflash said:
I have one coming from the google store and one from verizon. MY girl is still on verizon so it made sense to get it on payment plan plus 100 gift card at best buy. i dont need to unlock her phone... so it makes sense
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I was kind of in the same boat. On vzw. Was able to get $200 credit total for my M8 plus a free VR daydream. I'm a little griped I can't just buy the device protection from google but it only seems to be apply to phones purchased direct through their store. I'm ok with the lock bl because I'm not going to be running ROM variants on this particular. Root will be fine enough. So it was easier for me to make the choice to get it through vzw than google. If I don't like the phone, I can return and get another phone.
Just read that Verizon will control updates. That's a deal breaker for me. http://thenextweb.com/google/2016/10/07/verizon-google-pixel-update/#gref
Just wait... Verizon sucks!
I'm still torn. I preordered on VZW then heard that Verizon was going to control updates so I cancelled and ordered on Google. But now I'm hearing that WiFi calling won't work on the unlocked version on Verizon. And visual voice mail won't work either. So now I'm pretty torn which one I want. I don't need an unlocked bootloader, but do like the latest versions as soon as they're available.
According to Google support, WiFi calling will work on Verizon:
Thanks for writing in. Hope you're doing well!*
First, I'd like to take this*opportunity*to apologize for the delay in responding to your email.
I have checked with my product specialists and I'd like to inform you that,*all the Google devices have the *Wi-Fi calling option pre-installed. However, you just need to contact the Verizon support once you setup the device and they'll enable the service on your device. Once Verizon enable the services you can go ahead and make the Wi-Fi calls.
You can contact the carrier ( Verizon ) using the below contact details.
Verizon1-800-922-020424 hours/day, 7 days/week
Full service: 6:00 AM–11:00 PM Mon-Fri, 8:00 AM-9:00PM Sat-Sun
v3rn said:
According to Google support, WiFi calling will work on Verizon:
Thanks for writing in. Hope you're doing well!*
First, I'd like to take this*opportunity*to apologize for the delay in responding to your email.
I have checked with my product specialists and I'd like to inform you that,*all the Google devices have the *Wi-Fi calling option pre-installed. However, you just need to contact the Verizon support once you setup the device and they'll enable the service on your device. Once Verizon enable the services you can go ahead and make the Wi-Fi calls.
You can contact the carrier ( Verizon ) using the below contact details.
Verizon1-800-922-020424 hours/day, 7 days/week
Full service: 6:00 AM–11:00 PM Mon-Fri, 8:00 AM-9:00PM Sat-Sun
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strange
Just saw this article:
http://phandroid.com/2016/10/12/verizon-pixel-updates-simultaneously/
Basically, if you don't care about the locked bootloader, then you don't need to buy the phone from Google. You shouldn't have to worry about the updates and there are only 3 bloatware apps which take you less than 30 seconds to uninstall.
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I am switching from AT&T to Sprint and I just purchased the Unlocked Nexus 5 on Google Play. What exactly do I have to do in order to activate my phone on the Sprint Network? I am used to just popping my SIM card into the new phone and it works but I know Sprint is a CDMA network and does not use SIM cards.
1. How do I get the phone activated on Sprint
2. Will it run just as good on Sprint as it would on AT&T? It will still work with LTE right?
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I am switching from AT&T to Sprint and I just purchased the Unlocked Nexus 5 on Google Play. What exactly do I have to do in order to activate my phone on the Sprint Network? I am used to just popping my SIM card into the new phone and it works but I know Sprint is a CDMA network and does not use SIM cards.
1. How do I get the phone activated on Sprint
2. Will it run just as good on Sprint as it would on AT&T? It will still work with LTE right?
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Sprint does not have a byod line as far as I know unless you are going prepaid. Nobody knows yet if any of the mvnos will activate the nexus 5. You could always get an Iphone or something on your new line and sell it to cover your nexus cost and then some.
For a new line it would be much easier just to buy from sprint for $49.
Coverage/LTE will depend on your area but yes it will work.
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Sprint does not have a byod line as far as I know unless you are going prepaid. Nobody knows yet if any of the mvnos will activate the nexus 5. You could always get an Iphone or something on your new line and sell it to cover your nexus cost and then some.
For a new line it would be much easier just to buy from sprint for $49.
Coverage/LTE will depend on your area but yes it will work.
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According to this page the Unlocked version will work on Sprint:
http://www.ibtimes.com/nexus-5-release-date-unlocked-model-will-run-sprint-network-1452872
I probably will get an iPhone or something just to sell it since I will be able to get a new phone on contract pricing but I still need to know how to actually activate my Nexus when I get it. I was thinking about getting the $50 Nexus through Sprint but I am afraid if I do that I it will not be the exact same model. I don't want any Sprint bloatware on my phone and I don't want to get updates later than the rest. I also want to make sure the phone I get is heavily supported by developers. There is just too many unknowns on the Sprint model that I am scared to get it.
So anyway, do I just call Sprint to activate my device?
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According to this page the Unlocked version will work on Sprint:
http://www.ibtimes.com/nexus-5-release-date-unlocked-model-will-run-sprint-network-1452872
I probably will get an iPhone or something just to sell it since I will be able to get a new phone on contract pricing but I still need to know how to actually activate my Nexus when I get it. I was thinking about getting the $50 Nexus through Sprint but I am afraid if I do that I it will not be the exact same model. I don't want any Sprint bloatware on my phone and I don't want to get updates later than the rest. I also want to make sure the phone I get is heavily supported by developers. There is just too many unknowns on the Sprint model that I am scared to get it.
So anyway, do I just call Sprint to activate my device?
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There is no 'sprint' model they are the same device. So to activate you will need to get a sim card from sprint and then you can either chat, call, use the online activation or go to the store to get set up.
lafester said:
There is no 'sprint' model they are the same device. So to activate you will need to get a sim card from sprint and then you can either chat, call, use the online activation or go to the store to get set up.
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How do you get a sim without going to a store? I see no where online to order one.
jedinegotiator said:
According to this page the Unlocked version will work on Sprint:
http://www.ibtimes.com/nexus-5-release-date-unlocked-model-will-run-sprint-network-1452872
I probably will get an iPhone or something just to sell it since I will be able to get a new phone on contract pricing but I still need to know how to actually activate my Nexus when I get it. I was thinking about getting the $50 Nexus through Sprint but I am afraid if I do that I it will not be the exact same model. I don't want any Sprint bloatware on my phone and I don't want to get updates later than the rest. I also want to make sure the phone I get is heavily supported by developers. There is just too many unknowns on the Sprint model that I am scared to get it.
So anyway, do I just call Sprint to activate my device?
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Solutions Etcetera said:
How do you get a sim without going to a store? I see no where online to order one.
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To get a SIM, either go into the Sprint store. Or go online to the chat (you'll need an existing Sprint acct for this).
To activate, just call the big S and give them the info that they ask for
There's a thread going about this already that has some good info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507893
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There is no 'sprint' model they are the same device. So to activate you will need to get a sim card from sprint and then you can either chat, call, use the online activation or go to the store to get set up.
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So there is nothing different? No sprint bloatware? And is it unlocked?
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So there is nothing different? No sprint bloatware? And is it unlocked?
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Correct. There's one APK that all of the phones have though. Sprint Hidden Menu. I wouldn't consider it bloatware though.
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Cheater912 said:
Correct. There's one APK that all of the phones have though. Sprint Hidden Menu. I wouldn't consider it bloatware though.
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Sorry but just to be clear, Sprint will sell an unlocked phone? Has that ever been done before? Do you have a source? Not to discredit you but it seems that I should just buy it from Sprint instead of Google Play if there is no real differences. I just want to be sure.
jedinegotiator said:
Sorry but just to be clear, Sprint will sell an unlocked phone? Has that ever been done before? Do you have a source? Not to discredit you but it seems that I should just buy it from Sprint instead of Google Play if there is no real differences. I just want to be sure.
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I don't have a source atm, but that's all I've heard around the forums. You need to start a 2 year contract to get the phone at their low price though ($50 I think?). They're selling an off-contract one for $400 too. Same device all around.
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Cheater912 said:
Correct. There's one APK that all of the phones have though. Sprint Hidden Menu. I wouldn't consider it bloatware though.
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So is it the sim card that creatures this apk? Because if you order it from the play store it obviously will not come with that apk.
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mjs2011 said:
So is it the sim card that creatures this apk? Because if you order it from the play store it obviously will not come with that apk.
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I'm pretty certain it does come with it.
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jedinegotiator said:
Sorry but just to be clear, Sprint will sell an unlocked phone? Has that ever been done before? Do you have a source? Not to discredit you but it seems that I should just buy it from Sprint instead of Google Play if there is no real differences. I just want to be sure.
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This is the first time they have ever done it. This also means that the phone will be updated directly by google, with no carrier approvals/delays- which is also unprecedented for CDMA.
I myself am very surprised more people are not talking about this.
I stopped at a Sprint store today and asked about activating a phone bought from Google directly and they said it couldn't be done? Is that the case? I have about 5 months remaining on my contract with Sprint before I go on to another carrier.
mumbles202 said:
I stopped at a Sprint store today and asked about activating a phone bought from Google directly and they said it couldn't be done? Is that the case? I have about 5 months remaining on my contract with Sprint before I go on to another carrier.
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It's been confirmed that you can activate this phone on Sprint. The guys at the store didn't know what they were talking about.
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robber said:
This is the first time they have ever done it. This also means that the phone will be updated directly by google, with no carrier approvals/delays- which is also unprecedented for CDMA.
I myself am very surprised more people are not talking about this.
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Yeah it seems like this would be big news. Its also the first sprint tri band phone to be released unless you count the few sprint g2s out in the wild.
mumbles202 said:
I stopped at a Sprint store today and asked about activating a phone bought from Google directly and they said it couldn't be done? Is that the case? I have about 5 months remaining on my contract with Sprint before I go on to another carrier.
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Good deal. Will order a SIM tomorrow. So 1 device, all 3 carriers? Perfect.
Tried chat last night, and then calling in today but getting the run around. Was told I had to go corporate repair store; called store and was told that they don't normally stock SIM cards and that they won't have a N5 compatible one for a while until there shipment of phones comes in. I have sero account but this is the first time it has been an issue getting service.
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Hello all, currently I've got an unlocked Galaxy S4 running on AT&T GO Phone $60 a month plan.
I'm thinking about getting the Nexus 5 and it appears the wait time is a few weeks from google.
My family has been with sprint for years and have a few lines that're eligible for upgrades, I was thinking about purchasing a Nexus 5 for $49.99 with one of those upgrades however I don't plan to be on the Sprint network with them as I prefer AT&T in my Area (Don't live with my family where Sprint service is good) .
So basically my question is, Is sprint just reselling the Google version or do they have their own version of the phone that is locked and such?
I don't see any specific "Sprint Nexus 5" section here on XDA so I assume all the Google Nexus 5 ROM's and such work on the Sprint version?
Does that confirm that its the same device and can be used on any carrier?
Thanks for reading!
It should be completely GSM unlocked.
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It should be completely GSM unlocked.
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Appreciate the fast response man.
I'm going to head over to the store tomorrow if I can get a solid answer that it will work so if anyone has more input please let me know!
I want a Nexus simply so I'm not held back by Carrier updates as I've been with the amazing Galaxy line that suffers from carrier slowness. So I want to be sure the device Sprint is selling is indeed the Google Play Store device just resold through Sprint.
SemiGamer said:
Appreciate the fast response man.
I'm going to head over to the store tomorrow if I can get a solid answer that it will work so if anyone has more input please let me know!
I want a Nexus simply so I'm not held back by Carrier updates as I've been with the amazing Galaxy line that suffers from carrier slowness. So I want to be sure the device Sprint is selling is indeed the Google Play Store device just resold through Sprint.
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I'm 97% sure it's the same as every other N5, but it won't hurt to ask.
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I'm 97% sure it's the same as every other N5, but it won't hurt to ask.
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Yeah I just feel weird asking these questions to sprint.
Example:
"Hey, I'm interested in the Nexus 5, however I want to use it on AT&T because your service is bad here, Will it work?"
I'm sure they'll be professional and answer the question but still feels like a rude question to ask. Lol.
ALSO: Does anyone know if the Sprint Version is branded with "sprint" on it anywhere?
Never assume carrier reps will answer questions professionally, haha. And I really don't know about any Sprint decals.
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Never assume carrier reps will answer questions professionally, haha. And I really don't know about any Sprint decals.
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Very true lol.
I guess I'll find out about the decals when I go to the store tomorrow.
Appreciate the help man, as always if someone else has more information please feel free to let me know.
Thanks!
Just picked up a Sprint version from Best Buy, I am on T-mobile. It is the EXACT same phone. Same model# same build number and 100% factory unlocked. I also got them to price match the Play Store!
Edit: Also got the exact same 125mb update after powering on..
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Just picked up a Sprint version from Best Buy, I am on T-mobile. It is the EXACT same phone. Same model# same build number and 100% factory unlocked. I also got them to price match the Play Store!
Edit: Also got the exact same 125mb update after powering on..
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Awesome!
I just spoke with Sprint and played dumb, This was the conversation in short:
Me: Is the phone the same device google is offering, unlocked and everything?
Sprint rep: Sir do you mean unlocked for international use?
Me: Yes can it be used on other carriers over seas when I travel?
Sprint rep: After 3 months we will be able to unlock the device for you to use on other networks sir.
Me: Okay so its not unlocked from day one, I have to wait 3 months?
Sprint rep: That is correct sir.
So it seems they don't want people doing what I'm going to do OR the sprint rep doesn't know crap about the nexus 5. Lol.
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Awesome!
I just spoke with Sprint and played dumb, This was the conversation in short:
Me: Is the phone the same device google is offering, unlocked and everything?
Sprint rep: Sir do you mean unlocked for international use?
Me: Yes can it be used on other carriers over seas when I travel?
Sprint rep: After 3 months we will be able to unlock the device for you to use on other networks sir.
Me: Okay so its not unlocked from day one, I have to wait 3 months?
Sprint rep: That is correct sir.
So it seems they don't want people doing what I'm going to do OR the sprint rep doesn't know crap about the nexus 5. Lol.
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Yeah most phones on CDMA networks are GSM unlocked anyway, immediately. I think he's just giving the canned answer.
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SemiGamer said:
Awesome!
I just spoke with Sprint and played dumb, This was the conversation in short:
Me: Is the phone the same device google is offering, unlocked and everything?
Sprint rep: Sir do you mean unlocked for international use?
Me: Yes can it be used on other carriers over seas when I travel?
Sprint rep: After 3 months we will be able to unlock the device for you to use on other networks sir.
Me: Okay so its not unlocked from day one, I have to wait 3 months?
Sprint rep: That is correct sir.
So it seems they don't want people doing what I'm going to do OR the sprint rep doesn't know crap about the nexus 5. Lol.
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They probably just don't know. They seemed surprised when I told them I wanted to buy it outright because I was on T-mobile. Popped my sim right in and had 4G..
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Yeah most phones on CDMA networks are GSM unlocked anyway, immediately. I think he's just giving the canned answer.
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Yeah I went from a Galaxy S3 on Sprint to a T-mobile Galaxy S4 unlocked and running on AT&T so the last time I had a CDMA device it didn't have GSM. Its nice to know I can get newer sprint phones such as the Nexus on my families plan and use them on carriers such as AT&T that actually have signal in my area. Tomorrow is going to be a good day
Just bought Nexus 5 from local Best Buy. First one I went to said I needed to leave with a Sprint contract. The second one let me buy it outright with GP price match.
The box has Sprint material in it and a "don't text and drive" Sprint screen protector.
The model number and build number are the same. I also popped in my ATT sim and it worked.
Same build as developers.google.com, no Sprint software or google play sprint integration. I see no sign of Sprint any where on the hardware or software. My ATT sim works on LTE and HSPA, data/text/phone.
Do we know, or have we heard if the Sprint variant will have a locked bootloader?
tenorband said:
Do we know, or have we heard if the Sprint variant will have a locked bootloader?
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That's the million dollar question right now. :fingers-crossed:
FYI ... Questions belong in the (Questions & Answers) section.
Good question. My guess is yes. Only because it is Samsung
My guess is yuuuuup even Samsung decided to switch from an exynos to a snapdragon processor for Canadian users.
According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
lennykravitz2004 said:
According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
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If that is true i will be taking mine back and getting one from best buy.
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brownchm said:
If that is true i will be taking mine back and getting one from best buy.
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Screenshot of chat with Samsung CS yesterday
ETA: me too. and it looks like the only way to cancel an order with Sprint is to simply not sign for it when delivered, although I'm going to call later this morning and see if that gets me anywhere.
Called to cancel order through Sprint, and basically got nowhere. Have to wait for it to show up from UPS, then take to my local Sprint store for return/refund. Going to Best Buy and purchase there with new 2 year agreement. $500 difference in price. Freebie of the sd card or Fit watch isn't as important now since price would be substantially less. If available still, I'll stick with getting the Fit like I planned.
If you're thinking about doing the same thing, Sprint rep told me to NOT OPEN THE BOX when delivered from UPS as that will require a $35 restocking fee. Just sign for it, then take it to the Sprint store by my house and the store will be able to do refund right then and there. We'll see...
International variants appear to have root capability (i.e. unlocked bootloader) already, just looking around on the web. Hopefully Sprint retail versions will be just as easy.
lennykravitz2004 said:
According to Samsung Customer Support...
bootloader will be locked if ordered directly through/from Sprint
bootloader will be UNlocked if purchased from online store or brick and mortar store (Samsung Customer Support Agent specifically mentioned Best Buy)
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I find this a little hard to believe (I usually take what reps say with a grain of salt)
Regardless of who's selling it, don't all Sprint phones originate from the same place? So they can get all their bloatware (and locked bootloader, if it is?) on there? Do the Sprint phones from Best Buy not have all of the bloatware?
I guess we'll know soon enough.
fgr said:
I find this a little hard to believe (I usually take what reps say with a grain of salt)
Regardless of who's selling it, don't all Sprint phones originate from the same place? So they can get all their bloatware (and locked bootloader, if it is?) on there? Do the Sprint phones from Best Buy not have all of the bloatware?
I guess we'll know soon enough.
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And after looking at the Best Buy page for the N7, the "unlocked" spec is labeled as "No". Maybe Samsung makes more money if sold from retailers as opposed to carriers??? I have no idea. Another reason why I'm cancelling my order, regardless at this point. Or maybe sit on it and see if anything develops once they start getting in dev's hands for a week. After waiting 4 years for an upgrade, what's another few weeks to wait and see what's really happening. Seems Samsung and/or Sprint is moving to locking down the phones for good now, or as much as possible.
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After waiting 4 years for an upgrade, what's another few weeks to wait and see what's really happening.
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My guess is by Thursday or Friday night at the latest, we will know everything about what's locked and what's not.
Probably have the first reports of a brick from someone trying to root also... lol
I find it hard to believe that a best buy sprint n7 would be any different than one directly from sprint. I would imagine they are all shipped from the same place with the same setups.
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Do know why you posted this here this is not DEVELOPMENT. More than likely it will have a locked boot loader get over it
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Do know why you posted this here this is not DEVELOPMENT. More than likely it will have a locked boot loader get over it
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Respectful posts please. Also, finding out and working towards root methods and unlocking bootloaders are at the core of Development. Thank you, and appreciate your comments which add nothing to the discussion.
Honestly as long as we get a viable root and unroot method i will be happy. I can live without having custom roms.
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I think that is bs. I don't see the difference from a best buy Sprint Note 7 and one that is directly bought from Sprint. I'm almost certain that either one will be locked.
Also the s7 edge got root but no working recovery. So at some point we might get the same.
On the other hand the exynos versions of the Note 7 have a wip root and recovery.
It will be locked. Don't get your hopes up. Not going to be any different than the s7.
Silly question I presume but does locked bootloader mean we could obtain root but no custom recovery?
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Silly question I presume but does locked bootloader mean we could obtain root but no custom recovery?
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The way the s7 got root was from a leaked engineer firmware so if the bootloader is locked than well have to wait for someone to get their hands on the engineer bootloader or find another way to get root
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Just like zune mentioned its going to be a wait for us to get something concrete as far as boot loaders but we might have root a little earlier at least you can use rooted apps IE titanium backup with a locked boot loader is a plus. although if your a flash junky like myself it would have been great to get an unlocked boot loader for recoveries backups and new roms but only time will tell there are some of the greatest Devs here on XDA so you never know...
Hi,
I'm in the market for a new smart phone and thought the Pixel XL would be a good fit for what I do. As I search online, I notice that some Pixel XL smart phones are locked to Verizon.
Now this may be a stupid question, but couldn't I unlock this phone from this carrier and use it on any network (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint, ...etc)? As I understand it, can't you unlock any phone from any carrier? If so, what's the best website to use to unlock the phone?
I want to be sure before I buy.
Thx,
finsfree said:
Hi,
I'm in the market for a new smart phone and thought the Pixel XL would be a good fit for what I do. As I search online, I notice that some Pixel XL smart phones are locked to Version.
Now this may be a stupid question, but couldn't I unlock this phone from this carrier and use it on any network (T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint, ...etc)? As I understand it, can't you unlock any phone from any carrier? If so, what's the best website to use to unlock the phone?
I want to be sure before I buy.
Thx,
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If only it was that simple.
If you want the Pixel XL either but it from the Google store or wait a few more weeks for pixel XL 2. With The Pixel 2, I am unsure if it is Verizon exclusive, like the previous, or not.
Some carriers [emoji12] do a good job at tricking the consumers. They convinced me that I would have a unlockable xl but failed to say when they started phone up and connected to their WiFi it would update asap and lock the phone down to which I have not found the key hahaha
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jholland92 said:
If only it was that simple.
If you want the Pixel XL either but it from the Google store or wait a few more weeks for pixel XL 2. With The Pixel 2, I am unsure if it is Verizon exclusive, like the previous, or not.
Some carriers [emoji12] do a good job at tricking the consumers. They convinced me that I would have a unlockable xl but failed to say when they started phone up and connected to their WiFi it would update asap and lock the phone down to which I have not found the key hahaha
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There has got to be a way to unlock a Pixel XL from Verizon! Somebody has done it and I'm waiting for that person to chime in here.
Either Verizon or Google's version of the Pixel XL, it's still the same phone! Right?
Yes it has been done several months back but once everyone started using the exploit that was found in the system it was taken care of and locked up by Google or Verizon. And when the next security patch update went through in the following months that exploit was no longer usable.
people are still looking for ways to unlock it but it's almost not worth it to most Developers considering it takes up so much of their time when you have other phones at can be done easily.
Regarding the question about them being the same phone yes they are but they have different firmware patches so Verizon can lock there's whereas Google its unlockable. If the reason you want to get the phone from Verizon is that way you can get it financed or make monthly payments you can still do that on Google because Google has been working with a bank to finance their phones and other devices.
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jholland92 said:
Yes it has been done several months back but once everyone started using the exploit that was found in the system it was taken care of and locked up by Google or Verizon. And when the next security patch update went through in the following months that exploit was no longer usable.
people are still looking for ways to unlock it but it's almost not worth it to most Developers considering it takes up so much of their time when you have other phones at can be done easily.
Regarding the question about them being the same phone yes they are but they have different firmware patches so Verizon can lock there's whereas Google its unlockable. If the reason you want to get the phone from Verizon is that way you can get it financed or make monthly payments you can still do that on Google because Google has been working with a bank to finance their phones and other devices.
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Ok, good to know. I was wondering why these "unlocking websites" never had an option for Verizon.
This is why I had to check before I buy a Verizon locked phone and want to use it on a different network.
Ok, guess I'm buying my phone already unlocked then.
finsfree said:
Ok, good to know. I was wondering why these "unlocking websites" never had an option for Verizon.
This is why I had to check before I buy a Verizon locked phone and want to use it on a different network.
Ok, guess I'm buying my phone already unlocked then.
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Had I known Google was actually getting there phones financed I would have gone through them myself. Unfortunately I was making it a point to buy my first "stock" Droid this time round and couldn't go and pay out of pocket for a phone
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How has nobody found a solution to this? Surely it's a software thing. You'd have thought some badass member somewhere with enough of a chip on their shoulder against Verizon would have figured a way around this.
Too bad there isn't a bounty for it.
jdkzombie said:
How has nobody found a solution to this? Surely it's a software thing. You'd have thought some badass member somewhere with enough of a chip on their shoulder against Verizon would have figured a way around this.
Too bad there isn't a bounty for it.
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I doubt it is a simple or easy as it being simply a "software thing", and I completely believe it could/would never be done...but @wr3cckl3ss1 is on the case!
you can see a bit of how he's progressing HERE and HERE and HERE
It's unfortunate; this was actually the reason I switched from Verizon to T-Mobile lol. It appears the Verizon variant of the Pixel 6 remained locked all this time so I wouldn't bet on much different with the Pixel 7 :/ Hopefully somebody finds something for those with the VZW variant.
simplepinoi177 said:
I doubt it is a simple or easy as it being simply a "software thing", and I completely believe it could/would never be done...but @wr3cckl3ss1 is on the case!
you can see a bit of how he's progressing HERE and HERE and HERE
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Nice!
Surely it couldn't be a hardware lock!?
Does anyone know how to read and interpret a Magisk log? And can show or tell me what's missing
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Nice!
Surely it couldn't be a hardware lock!?
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The issue here is 2 java applets.....nothing hardware.
Too bad we didn't have a Verizon inside agent. Tell us wtf they do to lock it. Because isn't that against Googles Tos? It's sold as an unlock able device.
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Too bad we didn't have a Verizon inside agent. Tell us wtf they do to lock it. Because isn't that against Googles Tos? It's sold as an unlock able device.
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It's Verizon that demands it. But it's Google's own code that puts the lock in place...so they're both at fault.
wr3cckl3ss1 said:
It's Verizon that demands it. But it's Google's own code that puts the lock in place...so they're both at fault.
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Weird. Strange that this would still be a thing. Not like the device was cheap to purchase.
My question is why is Verizon so "gung-ho" about it? More than any other carrier (other carriers eventually allow to unlock the bootloader)? I could understand when they used to repair their own devices (so they didn't want the liability and the headaches of when customers messed with the devices); but that's the not the case anymore. Outside of their greedy archaic grasp on tethering and to load unremovable bloatware, I don't know what they have to fear of unlocked bootloaders & root access.
Who knows.
I'm willing to throw money towards a bounty that removes Verizons strangle hold on devices. I don't mind their service, and the signal is good where I live, but I like customization. And I'd love to try some new kernals to change up the CPU scheduler and power plans to stop the phone from bringing the 4 big cores online for casual use.
Just get the unlocked version and use with Verizon service. What's the upside with having the Verizon variant?
Because it's not that simple. You can't swappa sell a phone you're making any payments towards. And the phone is too new for trade in with another carrier of any type.
VZW variants have been locked since the OG Pixel days aside from that small window before taking an OTA you could unlock if it was on a certain version. Sadly I don't see this changing anytime soon and if you want to unlock BL and root get the unlocked version from the Google Store. There's really little incentive buying Pixels from Verizon now. With Pixel Pass and Google Store financing those are good options if you can't drop all the money up front.
Just buy the unlocked model. Some retailers have awesome trade in deals coming from the 6 series or iPhones. It works just as well on Verizon and avoids the 36 month committment.
I hate how Verizon shuts down the option for unlocking the bootloader and rooting, but it is easier to purchase a device from them because your payments will coincide with your regular monthly cell bill, you already pass the credit check when you open an account with them (no need to apply for one with Google Synchrony Financing), and I just went through with this with my wife's phone but unless you qualify enough to cover the Pixel (my wife qualified for the Pixel 7, not the P7P at the storage capacity we wanted), you're stuck paying all (up to $1400 [P7P 512GB w/ 2 year protection & tax]) up front -- where there's virtually no risk of this if you purchase through Verizon (they want to lock you in to years-long contract and you already passed the credit check)! So there's (some of) the benefits....
*but it's still more worth it beyond any of these "benefits" to get it from Google Store unlocked....
Lol. Here's a simple solution. Buy the unlocked version. Who changes carriers because of a bl lock? WTF?
At this point I think we all know that Verizon isn't going to unlock the Bootloader. if you want an unlocked bootloader, it is easier, and more guaranteed to just buy the unlocked version from Google vs trying to find vulnerabilities in the bootloader and having to worry about it being patched each month.
Not sure if this is still in effect, but many years ago, if you purchased an unlocked phone instead of the Verizon branded one, WiFi calling wouldn't work. I'm not sure if there was something missing from the phone that Verizon needed to make it happen, or if Verizon was just screwing over those who purchased unlocked versions.
andygold said:
Not sure if this is still in effect, but many years ago, if you purchased an unlocked phone instead of the Verizon branded one, WiFi calling wouldn't work. I'm not sure if there was something missing from the phone that Verizon needed to make it happen, or if Verizon was just screwing over those who purchased unlocked versions.
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it's working perfectly fine with my device....it also worked with my Pixel 5 (also unlocked variant from Google Store)....