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I've searched high and low but yet to find the correct answer. I also can't post in the development thread due to the 10 post limit. It is what it is.
The question that remains to be answered is it possible to have Super SU flashed but still not have full root access?
Back-story: I have an EVO 4g LTE that I rooted using regaw_leinad's one click RegawMOD EVO LTE Rooter. Worked like a charm. Due to unforseen circumstances I received a new EVO LTE and, like a dummy, applied the latest OTA. Well, the one click rooter did not work as planned. Got the phone unlocked and that was it. I still needed to flash Super SU, which I did. I thought all was well and good until I tried using build.prop and found out that I did not have root access, or at least couldn't use build.prop to edit. I tried another build.prop editor and it flat out told me I had no root access, yet Titanium Backup says I do.
Any suggestions?
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Still no luck
Some one suggested reflashing Super SU. I did, but still have the same issue.
Have you tried just regular super user instead of super su. Idk exactly how the super user really works besides allowing apps root access. Maybe not all apps have a command to signal super su, but have it to signal super user since its kinda top seat between those two.
Just a thought to try. Its in play store
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Did you open the APK to see if binaries need to be updated?
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Did you open the APK to see if binaries need to be updated?
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jaredw444 said:
Have you tried just regular super user instead of super su. Idk exactly how the super user really works besides allowing apps root access. Maybe not all apps have a command to signal super su, but have it to signal super user since its kinda top seat between those two.
Just a thought to try. Its in play store
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Would it be wise to install Super User with SuperSU already installed or do I need uninstall SuperSU first?
Haven't checked the APK.
It wouldn't hurt, but never messed with supersu so I don't know if it'd interfere
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jaredw444 said:
It wouldn't hurt, but never messed with supersu so I don't know if it'd interfere
dumbest thing lately.....miui roms
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I'm at a loss. I installed Superuser and updated binaries yet still have the same result.
I get the following error running build.prop Editor...
"Error.java.io.FileNotFoundException:/mnt/sdcard/buildprop.tmp: open failed:ENOENT (No such file or directory)
Then I receive this error running BuildProp Editor (different program)...
"No root access is given! This Tool makes heavy use of it. You can't make changes, add propertys nor restore your build.prop file."
What file explorer are you using
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jaredw444 said:
What file explorer are you using
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File Expert v4.2.4 by Geek Wireless Technology and
Root Browser v1.4.0 by JRummy Apps
I'm wondering at this point if it would be possible to reset my phone to before the 1.22 update.
Download rootchecker from the market and run it to see what it says. It seems like you don't have full root.
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Download rootchecker from the market and run it to see what it says. It seems like you don't have full root.
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We may be on to something here. Used rootchecker and another app to check access. Sure enough, I have complete root access...but...busybox is a different story. Downloading busybox as we speak and will post results afterwards. (May take awhile because the Sprint network at this location is SLOW).
truetexan71 said:
We may be on to something here. Used rootchecker and another app to check access. Sure enough, I have complete root access...but...busybox is a different story. Downloading busybox as we speak and will post results afterwards. (May take awhile because the Sprint network at this location is SLOW).
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And we have liftoff...so to speak. Busybox was the culprit. I ASSUMED during the initail root process that busy box was intalled, it wasn't.
Thanks to everyone.
truetexan71 said:
And we have liftoff...so to speak. Busybox was the culprit. I ASSUMED during the initail root process that busy box was intalled, it wasn't.
Thanks to everyone.
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Nice! Glad you got it figured out.
Since there is no sensation XE forum i'll post this one here. So i've finally managed to root my sensation xe again (/cheer). The thing is i have an app (Yelo TV, belgium tv network telenet android app) that refuses to stream recorded shows since the device is rooted. Now i've got "Hide My Root" Installed and hid the su binairy. But it still detects root access and won't stream.
So i'm asking all of ya (but primairly the rooted sensation xe, yelo tv users) have any of you managed to restore streaming on this rooted device?
oh and installed titanium backup pro too, but can't seem to figure out how to create backup for all my aps in 1 go (or is that the update.zip feature). Really don't wanna go an create a backup for the 6 dozen aps i got installed. Oh and does anyone know a good ad blocker. There used to be one in the market called AdFree or something but looks like it's gone.
go to the superuser app
navigate to the tv app and select deny for root permissions
about adblocker you can use adaway app
can't navigate to it, as it's not in the su app. It doesn't the tv app doesn't trigger a superuser root access request. The app sees on it's own that the device is rooted. Or do i need su elite for that? (currently using the non-elite app) or a different su app.
I believe the app supersu has a temp u root feature. You could try that and see if it helps you may need to full unrrot superuser first, then add supersu
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A couple of days ago I found an app which is able to "hide" your root access, but it needs to be activated manually before launching the problematic app. google for it, found it on one of the top search results (it is on google play). It specifically mentions it enables using apps such as Google Video and the likes, so I guess you should try it.
@Heavy Metal: supersu, temp u root? No idea what ur on about. I sure as hell won't be losing my root over 1 app. Ill watch the stuff on TV then.
@astar: i would if you'd say the name. As i said, i have "hide my root" installed. Even if i tell it to hide the su binairy, yelo TV still detectq the root and won't stream.
Edit: tried supersu. Said the binairy needed an update. Normal installation won't work, other one requires cow or another one. Can't i push it via adb or something. Custom recovery makes it impossible for ota updates. (Not that this phone has been given any. No idea if it even will be updated to 4.1 let alone 5)
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@Heavy Metal: supersu, temp u root? No idea what ur on about. I sure as hell won't be losing my root over 1 app. Ill watch the stuff on TV then.
@astar: i would if you'd say the name. As i said, i have "hide my root" installed. Even if i tell it to hide the su binairy, yelo TV still detectq the root and won't stream.
Edit: tried supersu. Said the binairy needed an update. Normal installation won't work, other one requires cow or another one. Can't i push it via adb or something. Custom recovery makes it impossible for ota updates. (Not that this phone has been given any. No idea if it even will be updated to 4.1 let alone 5)
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It won't get any further official updates. And as for SuperSU, just allow it to update, it will do the job. And all the updates we might need are available as custom ROMs (although without the apps you want to use).
I think I might have just got it. this app came with the phone, right? So maybe making it a "user" app would work, as it's system privileges allow it to detect root binary even if it's hidden (system apps can do whatever they want, without asking for permission). Create a backup of the whole ROM first, so you won't lose the app. Then copy it to the SD card, delete it from /system/app and then open it with a file explorer, it will install the app. It might just work.
Edit: The app I fount was exactly what you used.
supersu won't update it. its a htc phone so needs custom recovery and no. Yelo TV did not come with the phone.
anyone got the latest su binairy ? the one i have dates from 29/02/2008 and is 21.8kb in size
oh and supersu fked up my root seriously. Said it found conflicting aps and needed to uninstall them. so allowed it to do so. so it removed all updates from "system ap". Now everything that had root access no longer does and when it asks for permission it gets denied
Ch3vr0n said:
supersu won't update it. its a htc phone so needs custom recovery and no. Yelo TV did not come with the phone.
anyone got the latest su binairy ? the one i have dates from 29/02/2008 and is 21.8kb in size
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You don't have a custom recovery? And as far as I know, it is able to update itself, there are choices for updating.
no i don't have a custom recovery, installed the latest superuser app from play store
Ch3vr0n said:
no i don't have a custom recovery, installed the latest superuser app from play store
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Since you are rooted, why not installing? It's quite out of the discussion, but you should, as it only gives you benefits in the normal situation (There will be no OTAs in the future, and anyway, it allows you to backup and restore your phone should anything happens. Since you are rooted I guess you have your bootloader unlocked via HTCUnlock or S-Off.
so managed to update to latest binary and superuser version (3.1.3) according to superuser itself. Then ran SuperSU still claims a binairy update so did that one too. Then removed the outdated superuserapp from ChainsSSD
yes, i'm s-OFF (did that when back on android 2.3.4). Still doesn't fix the fact that the app won't stream. but nvm. After updating binairy and apk, Yelo now throws a different error. "failed to communicate with digicorder"
though i did find a page claiming a superuser version 3.1.4 http://nishantn3.blogspot.be/2013/04/latest-superuserapk-v31447-su-v3218.html
now where in SuperSU do i hide the root or deny root checking for yeloTV
Ch3vr0n said:
so managed to update to latest binary and superuser version (3.1.3) according to superuser itself. Then ran SuperSU still claims a binairy update so did that one too. Then removed the outdated superuserapp from ChainsSSD
yes, i'm s-OFF (did that when back on android 2.3.4). Still doesn't fix the fact that the app won't stream. but nvm. After updating binairy and apk, Yelo now throws a different error. "failed to communicate with digicorder"
though i did find a page claiming a superuser version 3.1.4 http://nishantn3.blogspot.be/2013/04/latest-superuserapk-v31447-su-v3218.html
now where in SuperSU do i hide the root or deny root checking for yeloTV
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You can not deny root checking, but you can deny root access for it. But to understand how it works, did it request root access? Try removing it from the list in SuperSU.
I said that in my first post. I doesn't even ask for root access, it just sees that the device is rooted. One of the sites i found claimed they were checking for /system/bin/su
even with SuperSU (disabled and hidden), it still detects root access (even after i killed the yeloTV process) after hiding su. Could it be because SU is running as user and not /system.
use xprivacy (xposed framework) to block su in yelo app (under shell menu), works for me!
Could you provide links to what I need and what I need to do.
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Try rootcloak it's in the play store
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Tried and failed will contact the Dev though. Weird thing is that the yelo app does allow me TV on my nexus 7 2013, do I wonder why it sit work on cm 10.2
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Help. Looking for root method for Hannspree SN14T71 on 4.2.2.
Please any help is appreciated.
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I'm in the same boat
tennisjunkie said:
Help. Looking for root method for Hannspree SN14T71 on 4.2.2.
Please any help is appreciated.
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Hi! I bought the Hanspree 13.3 and noted that when I bought it one of the reviews said that it came rooted from the factory. Sure enough, I downloaded Root Checker and it says that I have Root. Unfortunately when I went to install Superuser Pro it installed but then says I need to update the binary (and I've done this multiple times on my Android phones or other tablets, it's a hobby what can I say?) it fails to update. I tried getting the binary direct from Sterickson and installing it through Recovery but that failed too. Busybox won't install because it says SU is screwed-up or I don't have root..
I was just hoping to find some ROM that could take advantage of this large screen, out of the box it boots and looks like a tablet for the sight-impaired (no offense) because all it does is display these huge icons and huge text (even after reducing text size to small). From all that I have seen today it looks like nobody is developing for this device. I guess we should be happy that we got 4.2.2 out of the box, at least we're ahead of most others..
Anyone have any ideas???
Chris R.
Ok. I have had the same experience and I found out the "solution" I believe. Did you try superSU? Because I tried to install superuser and it failed also but supersu did not. Try that and let me know.
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same wish here
Mine doesn't seem to be rooted. Any fail safe way to check if it is rooted or not? Want to speed this thing up and get the programs off of the RAM. I end up with only 300-400 mb available.
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Hi! I bought the Hanspree 13.3 and noted that when I bought it one of the reviews said that it came rooted from the factory. Sure enough, I downloaded Root Checker and it says that I have Root. Unfortunately when I went to install Superuser Pro it installed but then says I need to update the binary (and I've done this multiple times on my Android phones or other tablets, it's a hobby what can I say?) it fails to update. I tried getting the binary direct from Sterickson and installing it through Recovery but that failed too. Busybox won't install because it says SU is screwed-up or I don't have root..
I was just hoping to find some ROM that could take advantage of this large screen, out of the box it boots and looks like a tablet for the sight-impaired (no offense) because all it does is display these huge icons and huge text (even after reducing text size to small). From all that I have seen today it looks like nobody is developing for this device. I guess we should be happy that we got 4.2.2 out of the box, at least we're ahead of most others..
Anyone have any ideas???
Chris R.
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It has a version of SU in xbin, but that doesn't mean that it is rooted really....
I have tried to get ADB to work, but so far no luck with that. I believe that I could get root to work if I could get ADB to work, but that is just a circular argument.
As to the screen, I use an alternate launcher. Apex in my case. It allows me to set the grid size and scales the icons to fit. Others like other launchers better, but I prefer Apex and purchased the pro version.
All around I like it, even without root. Still, I would like to be able to use GL to SD, Titanium Backup, and the host of other root reliant apps I normally install to get around certain deficiencies.
I'm also trying to root this device.
After a lot of digging, it looks like the su in xbin has different permissions (at least as far as I can tell), when comparing it to the su in my rooted s3. I used root checker pro. The permission of su on my s3 is -rwsr-sr-x root root 113036, while the permission for su on my SN14T71 is -rwsr-sr-x root root 67080.
The funny thing is root checker pro says that root ownership is present and is properly configured. The only thing I can think of is the permission isn't set right.
Now without adb (which I can't seem to get to work either, even though there is a debugging option in the android settings), I don't see a way to change the permissions. Anyone have any ideas?
My usb file transfer doesn't even work on this device. When I try to use usb to transfer files it remounts the internal memory and crashes the tablet, and I have to shut down and reboot to fix it.
I think that they messed up remote usb access period, and that might be why adb doesn't work.
I can use usb file transfer just fine. It only works through the OTG port, not the "regular" port, or whatever you want to call it. In fact, I have no idea what the regular port is even there for, if file transfer only works through OTG. My computer (running ubuntu 12.04) doesn't even detect the tablet using lsusb when connected to the non-OTG (regular) port.
And yet, ADB doesn't work with either port. They definitely did something wrong here, I just can't figure out what.
I can only transfer files via the OTG port and a flash drive. Connecting to a computer, and I have tried windows 7/8/8.1, only causes it to crash. We may only be able to hope that it is fixed in the next update...
Both external usb storage (OTG) and my computer work fine using the OTG port. Still can't figure out what the other port even does right now.
Are they still going to release updates? Hannspree's "news" section hasn't even been updated since 2012.
Ha. Your guess is as good as mine...
It is still my favorite tablet though. The Price/Performance ratio is good, and I love the huge screen even if I have to use the upside down tablet trick for better viewing angles. Mine does have the overheating bug though, which is primarily what causes crashes and wifi failure...
Rooting Hanspree SN14T71
I hope this helps.
I am usually a lurker and don't post but I wanted to pass this info along.
I was able to root my Hanspree SN14T71 by installing Mobogenie.
Install the Mobogenie PC App from mobogenie.com/en-us/download.html
then download the ADB drivers from here mobogenie.com/drivers-download.html
Put tablet into debugging mode.
Connect to pc then run the Mobogenie PC app click on the My Phone Icon in the upper left and from there you should be able to click the OneClick Root icon and root your SN14T71.
I have verified root access and have installed and run apps that require the tablet to be rooted.
Try at your own risk but this did work for me.
Good luck.
I've only had it for a few days actually, so I really haven't had enough time to figure out what all of it's quirks are. I actually got it to hang up on my fridge for the calender, shopping list, recipes, pandora, etc. It's attached using velcro so I can take it off if I need to.
Well I guess I'll work on getting it rooted occasionally when I feel like it, unless someone cracks it before me.
EDIT: I'll try that out wcbellaz. I'll report back if it works.
So I tried the one click root with mobogenie, and while it definitely did something, it didn't give me root access. Using the one click root, it actually moved the su from /system/xbin to /system/bin, but still doesn't give me permission to use su. Setuid attribute is there, and the root ownership is there, so theoretically, I should be able to use su. Then again, I should have been able to with the original su file, which also has setuid and root ownership.
One thing that is strange when comparing it to my rooted galaxy s3 is under the "root user is and group id status" in root checker pro, the contents are different. On the hannspad, it says the su binary isn't found or isn't operating properly. On my GS3, it says the uid and gid are both root.
When I unroot it with the one click root, it removes the su file entirely.
So I know this mobogenie app can in fact get root privileges, as it did mess with the su file. I just wish I knew how it was doing it so I can do it myself.
Masterjuggler said:
So I tried the one click root with mobogenie, and while it definitely did something, it didn't give me root access. Using the one click root, it actually moved the su from /system/xbin to /system/bin, but still doesn't give me permission to use su. Setuid attribute is there, and the root ownership is there, so theoretically, I should be able to use su. Then again, I should have been able to with the original su file, which also has setuid and root ownership.
One thing that is strange when comparing it to my rooted galaxy s3 is under the "root user is and group id status" in root checker pro, the contents are different. On the hannspad, it says the su binary isn't found or isn't operating properly. On my GS3, it says the uid and gid are both root.
When I unroot it with the one click root, it removes the su file entirely.
So I know this mobogenie app can in fact get root privileges, as it did mess with the su file. I just wish I knew how it was doing it so I can do it myself.
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That is really odd. I just got my Hannspad in the last 3 weeks. When I would run Root Checker it said the device was not rooted. I have heard some say that the device would report as rooted but in fact was not.
If there is anything I can do to help let me know.
I am pretty much a novice at this but I had to root my Hannspad because I did have enough space in memory left for apps, and needed to install Link2SD. In my opinion the only major drawback to this device is the 1GB memory. But for the $226 that this tablet was offered on Amazon was too good a deal to pass up.
Tried Mobogenie, and it seemed to install the correct driver and the driver pack was not needed - I had already started the install on the drivers though...
Sigh...
Got root, it uses a root app that I have never heard of - Kinguser - so I mistakenly installed SuperSU, which then asked me to update the superuser binary...
I am now in the process of restarting to find out if I messed up my root access.
Sigh...
Update:
Apparently I didn't lose root, so I have installed some of my root requiring favorites to see how they work.
The oneclick seems to update the su in xbin, and they put a link to it in bin with full permissions.
I have tried three apps that successfully report gaining su permissions, Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, and GL to SD.
I want to try the move updates to system option in TB, to free up some space, but I am currently too chicken.
Sigh...
Whelp, Titanium Backup works anyway...
Update 2:
I installed SuperSU ( re-installed it actually ) and did the normal binary update. Then I uninstalled Kinguser manually by using Root Explorer to delete its apk in SYSTEM ( superuser ). Then I restarted and deleted all traces of Mobogenie and its daemon as they were slowing down my tablet, and the daemon died hard ( I can imagine that it was tied into all sorts of things ).
I have confirmed that I still have root access, and I just didn't like all that Mobogenie stuff on my tablet.
Happy now
RageAgain said:
Tried Mobogenie, and it seemed to install the correct driver and the driver pack was not needed - I had already started the install on the drivers though...
Sigh...
Got root, it uses a root app that I have never heard of - Kinguser - so I mistakenly installed SuperSU, which then asked me to update the superuser binary...
I am now in the process of restarting to find out if I messed up my root access.
Sigh...
Update:
Apparently I didn't lose root, so I have installed some of my root requiring favorites to see how they work.
The oneclick seems to update the su in xbin, and they put a link to it in bin with full permissions.
I have tried three apps that successfully report gaining su permissions, Root Explorer, Titanium Backup, and GL to SD.
I want to try the move updates to system option in TB, to free up some space, but I am currently too chicken.
Sigh...
Whelp, Titanium Backup works anyway...
Update 2:
I installed SuperSU ( re-installed it actually ) and did the normal binary update. Then I uninstalled Kinguser manually by using Root Explorer to delete its apk in SYSTEM ( superuser ). Then I restarted and deleted all traces of Mobogenie and its daemon as they were slowing down my tablet, and the daemon died hard ( I can imagine that it was tied into all sorts of things ).
I have confirmed that I still have root access, and I just didn't like all that Mobogenie stuff on my tablet.
Happy now
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Awesome.
You lost me on the binary stuff.
In your opinion should I uninstall the Kinguser as you did and install SuperSu. there seems to be no difference to me in performance after the Mobogenie root. I really don't want anything on this tablet other than the stuff I have to have.
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Awesome.
You lost me on the binary stuff.
In your opinion should I uninstall the Kinguser as you did and install SuperSu. there seems to be no difference to me in performance after the Mobogenie root. I really don't want anything on this tablet other than the stuff I have to have.
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The Kinguser seems to work fine, I just like using what I am used to and I couldn't find much info on Kinguser superuser app ( in english anyway ) so...
It does have a lot more configuration options than SuperSU, which could be a good thing. Your guess is as good as mine...
Hold the phone. Kinguser? I have never heard of this, nor has it been installed on my tablet by the one click root.
I did install SuperSU and tried updating the binary (without success) before trying mobogenie to see if I could get it to work. This wouldn't have screwed me over in any way, would it?
EDIT: Just to be sure, you both are running the latest OTA update, right?
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Hold the phone. Kinguser? I have never heard of this, nor has it been installed on my tablet by the one click root.
I did install SuperSU and tried updating the binary (without success) before trying mobogenie to see if I could get it to work. This wouldn't have screwed me over in any way, would it?
EDIT: Just to be sure, you both are running the latest OTA update, right?
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Version 1.1.4 dated 11/23/2013
I used a laptop running windows 7, and installed Mobogenie ( I also, perhaps unnecessarily, installed the adb driver pack ). I then connected my tablet and Mobogenie reported a connection - it reported the available memory both internally and on the sd card and it could see my installed applications, after which I used the one click root. The Mobogenie app and daemon were installed along with an updated su and the Kinguser superuser app.
As far as I know trying to install SuperSU previously shouldn't have any effect on the process since I did that too.
somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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somebody could teach me the easiest way to replace kinguser with supersu please?
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Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
ИΘΘK¡€ said:
Follow these simple steps:
1. Go to the Play Store and install SuperSU.
2. When SuperSU is installed, give it permission as Super User.
3. Uninstall KingUser.
4. Done.
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hI! I try on my HUAWEI ASCEND G6 and... dont work ... is possibel that an update that Kinguser had done make it impossibel?????
I root with RootGenius_en, was ok, kinguser ask for a update, done. But Now i whant to change do SuperSu and dont work. I had permissions and every thing...
Help! :crying:
Me too
I'm trying to do this too, but I aint sure how to do it. I mean I guess if its not super necessary I can leave it the way it is. Tried this method and its a no go. I don't think the KingUser SU is letting superSU update its binaries. I already have twrp, but not sure what next. If its not necessary I'll leave it alone, but I was just wondering if theres any reason to change over or if it could even be done.
P.S This way never worked for me as superSU can't get past trying to install the binaries. I got twrp so I'm wondering if I'd have to flash it. Nothings wrong on my end are anything, but I just assumed having superSU would be better then kinguser but not really sure.
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
Must vary from device to device cause I've did all that, and it gives the message "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again" and if kinguser is removed in superSU when trying to update/install the binaries it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device."
This aint the g6 though but this thread is the kinguser replace with superSU thread. So I thought I'd post in it.
washichi said:
many people have this problem.
first of all, kinguser is great to root the G6, and in most cases the only working method without custom recovery,
but because it flashes kinguser.apk as system app you can't uninstall it the normal way.
the solution is to flash supersu.zip and then uninstall kinguser. this way supersu will be your systemapp.
find the files and tutorials you need on our facebook group,
we have 1500+ members, CWM + TWRP, android 4.3 + 4.4, we can root your g6 and unlock your bootloader.
but we still don't have a subforum on XDA....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/328261053999820
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Install SuperSu rom magazin play.
Then instal rom lite box.
Open the app, and uninstall kinguser
easy, and it`s working.I just deleted kinguser 2 mins ago
Hum
@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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@andruala Never worked for me that way, anytime I remove king user root gets removed. Never was able to flash superSU rom correctly because binaries couldn't get updated from superSU because root was removed once king user was uninstalled. I've heard people mention it working the way you suggested, but I've also read posts where people have a hard time getting it replaced with superSU because root gets removed when king user is replaced, which doesn't allow superSU to install the binaries correctly. Most people probably can't get the binaries installed correctly from superSU which is the same problem I had so they end up just leaving it king user. I could try whats suggested here but I very much doubt its going to work as explained from my conflict that when king user is removed, root is removed and whether you flash a SU zip or not root still aint enabled because SU binaries are nt installed correctly. So until I actually can confirm this works myself I'm gonna prob say its a no-go for me. Could be device specific but I did all this to a tee and still had problems. There was a post on freak tab where someone had the same problem. I might still try this, I just dont see it working like as said.
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Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.
No worries bro. Probably varies depending on how you root from device to device.
Its not your fault. No worries. I'm just thinking it varies from device to device and how you actually go about rooting . I'm also thinking that maybe if I rooted with another app/prog that it would have been easier to switch from king user to superSU. I use lookout premium security on my phone and kingroot and king user have never been flagged with any viruses so I've just left it on and running the way it is and so far so good. Other then the two errors I mentioned in the previous post king user/kingroot has been working good. I'm sure if I did a whole restore/wipe/clean and root with another program there might be a possibility to remove king user and replace with superSU but in the end I just decided to roll with king user/kingroot as I didn't feel like doing al that and its been doing its job fine.
QUOTE=andruala;58880236]Yes...i`m really sorry.For me wit worked before i restarted the phone...
After de restart i`ve seen that the root is not working anymore...
Sorry for my bad.[/QUOTE]
Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
The earlier versions of Kingo Root were much better
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Well I thought about leaving kinguser sitting there on my system too until one day I installed network monitor stuff and noticed kinguser sure likes to make HTTP connections every time the Internet is available. Imagine that. Also have a look, there are /system/bin/.usr/.ku etc. hiding all over your system.
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
Indeed. What is needed is for someone to take a vanilla phone into a cleanroom, install the mess, and report back on exactly what ended up getting put where, in order for somebody to make a "kinguser detox/.antidote" APP and/or shell scripts that would clean the mess totally back off.
don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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don't know if it's gonna help you ( have alcatel onetouch idol 2 mini s):
i also couldn't update binaries su and had kinguser.
then i downloaded the beta version of supersu (on xda) and flashed it with my cwm. after that when supersu asked if i wanted to update, i said yes and choose normal update (not the cwm/t... one) it than updates and asked if i wanted to remove the external root apps (ie: kinguser) and voila!
(sorry English isn't my language, so don't know if i explained myself well^^)
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Why did you need to root with kingo if you have custom recovery?!
I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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I rooted first then found the cwm for my phone?
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Oh. I wasn't angry at you Was just asking.
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
satine01black said:
it took me like a year to root my phone then i couldn't make it work well with kinguser, and i wanted supersu anyway, so i found that i could install manually the app with cwm .
anyway, i don't now if you can use cwm without a root?
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You can, but it doesn't really make much sense to.
Use Eroot, then try superSU installation
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Those earlier versions were putting SuperSU binaries into the root. But now they are putting on this King User crap. Reason I say it's crap is exactly what you mentioned. As soon as I root a phone with Kingo Root, Google Search immediately tells me that it will not allow me to search for anything because "your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now"
Good God! What the heck is Kingo Root putting onto these phones now? It sure isn't putting just su binaries in there.
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I had the same issue with my mobile, (Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray (ST18i)), I then rooted my phone with EROOT Software which installed a superuser app, then i got the .apk file of SuperSU via Bluetooth from a friend and installed it. one has to grant permission when it asks for superuser rights, then updating binary files is no longer a problem. It also asks for removal of the Superuser-app that was pushed through the EROOT software, you do that. Then I installed link2SD and link2sd pro key from google play store and converted the SuperSU app into a system-app. Now SuperSU is working perfectly again.
You both should try it!!
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Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56539897&postcount=9 for the Answer
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Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
Disable Superuser in SuperSU settings.
zoro25 said:
Hi all ,
I'm wanting to use NowTV (like SkyGo) on my OnePlus , however they are using a type of Root check that most root hiders cannot bypass.
Therefore I'm looking for a way to temp unroot and then root back again with ease.
just wondering if there are any tools or easy to follow guides?
thanks
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Or if you are on a Cm nightly you can turn them off in the developer option
Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
Outside of the nightly wing if you want stability use the M releases, they are designed to be more stable than the nightly branch
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Disabling super user doesn't work, their detection method is unknown and they check more than the su binary.
I might try the nightlies, however I need stability.
Thanks for the responses so far
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The problem isn't really the SuperSU as such, it's CM. They flag CM as a rooted ROM, it'll even happen if you're on stock un-rooted CM11S.
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I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
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I'm pretty sure that I saw an xposed module that could hide superuser completely. Might want to give that a try
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As per my post right above yours, it isn't SU that's the problem, it's that the ROM is CM.
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Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
zoro25 said:
Timmaaa is correct and that's the info I wanted, I had tried the xposed modules but none worked and now I know why.
I'll contact sky and see if I get anywhere
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So it seems that Timmaaa is NOT correct as there is NO CyanogenMod or any ROM check, it's all to do with the the name of your Root App
Short Version is unroot and uninstall SU app for this to work (removing SU Binary or removing Root alone is not enough)
So we need to have a new Root app with a new AppID and name , and also the SU binary to be identified as something else for this to possibly work.
I now have NOWTV working , and it's on an Unrooted One+One with no SU App installed after running full Unroot (however my SUPro app is still installed)
Note that SUPro does nothing really and just gives extra functionality when the main SU app is installed.
Thanks for everyone help and input on this.
So it seems that you would have to
1)Full UnRoot (Which also uninstalls the main SuperUser app)
2) Watch what ever you wanted to on NowTV or SkyGO
3)Go through the Rooting process again as if it were a new device. (which will again stop NOWTV/SkyGo) from working.
Do steps 1 and 2 again to watch.
This would have to be done everytime you want to watch NowTV
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This is just a theory... may be wrong:
Can't you move the SuperSU app into /system/app instead of /data/app. Or does the NOWTV app have perms to check the integrity of /system also. Or can you change the app id of the SuperSU app with a simple decompile tool.
I did that while using cm11s. But still had problems trying to watch skygo. In the end I had alter my buildprop to a phone which supports skygo as at the time it didn't support oneplus one. Then full unroot etc to watch then root back to get root access again.