What the ULTIMATE Phablet needs? ZenFone 3 Ultra-Perhaps the Beginning? - Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra Questions & Answers

Here is my take on what the ultimate phablet needs. I think the current featureset of the ASUS ZenFone 3 Ultra is a really good start. I hope either Huawei, Samsung or Asus or even Sony or HTC will pay attention to the thoughts expressed here.
Here are the hings that the Zenfone 3 Ultra lacks to be the ultimate phablet and I hope that ASUS or another brand will add to the next revision of their Phablets without sacrificing the existing feaures of the ZenFone 3 Ultra:
-Snapdragon 820 SOC
-Full Dual Sim+ MicroSd slot
-Inbuilt Stylus Pen Input-similar to Note series
-Front Facing (Left+Right) Dual 5 Magnet Speakers not like now all at the bottom
-IR Blaster (no just IR focus)
-NFC
-256GB ROM
-Magnetic QWERTY Low Profile Full Keyboard that can be used as cover or as on demand accessory with space for keeping the phone in a standing position whilst typing-For an experience like the good old days of the Nokia Communicators that I loved.
-2K/4K Display without reducing the size-in fact without even increasing the size of the device even 7.5" displays are possible on such devices-Galaxy Note 1 started it why not try to challenge the perceptions once again?
-Dual Camera setup with 3D and VR Compatibility-why did this feature die on mobiles when at one point it was becoming a trend.
And of the current generation of phablet producers, no brand realises the true potential of such devices, and none have been able to provide the ultimate feature set on such a device. Every device be it from Huawei or from Asus have always been hit and miss.

AWFRONT said:
-Front Facing (Left+Right) Dual 5 Magnet Speakers not like now all at the bottom
-IR Blaster (no just IR focus)
-Dual Camera setup with 3D and VR Compatibility-why did this feature die on mobiles when at one point it was becoming a trend.
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I would be happy if they add at least this. By the way, I've had a Nokia Communicator earlier too.
Z3Ultra ordered and on the way...

Try the Honor Note 8, im verry happy with it, the screen is so nice

I'd just be happy if it supported LTE in the US

Of the OP's list these are my two big ones along with working LTE bands for the US
-Full Dual Sim+ MicroSd slot
-IR Blaster

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Mi 4c or OnePlus X?

Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)(MSM8974PRO-AA)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
-Slippery
-SD card problem //fixed
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
If I'm right also oneplus x lacks in 800 Mhz LTE band
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No. Oneplus x for eu include band 20. Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/oneplus_x-7630.php
I was thinking of getting the opx for a family member but I think the mi4c is better due to what you mentioned, bigger battery, Wi-Fi ac, USB C, ir blaster which is a bonus and the soc. Camera is very good and fast. Maybe wait for opx review with camera samples.
Custom roms may be slow but there is a cm12.1 rom which is a daily driver except a few minor bugs.
Touch problem was only there on the first ROM. All roms after that had no problems with it. We get weekly updates aswell but probably won't get official marshmallow soon (custom rom, 99% sure though), so you're pretty much set on the software part. I'd say the screen is very good, it has high contrast rates and looks very bright. You can control the saturation etc. so blue (cold) and warm colors is probably what they are reporting.
The advantage to OPX I'd see is band 20, it looks a bit better (just my opinion, but build quality is solid on both), has AMOLED and it has MicroSD.
I already have mi 4c and its better than even one plus two
One plus x is average phone.
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I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
geko95gek said:
OnePlus X. It's a lot easier to maintain / modify
I got my invite today so just sitting on the website waiting for the Buy Now button to appear.
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Apparently xiaomi release source a few months later? When it does, it will be the better phone.
I'd wait for camera samples so that way youll have an all rounder phone
wingsfortheirsmiles said:
I'm torn on this too, in fact I just got an invite for the X today.
For me it's 4G band 20 and micro SD card support vs better battery life (for me on CM12.1 at least) and faster WiFi speeds.
I might get an X anyway and use as my DD for a few weeks
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Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
andrew551 said:
Hi,
I'm curretnly on the xcover 2 and I thinking to buy one of these devices (Xiaomi Mi4C, OnePlus X).
I create list of pros and cons for these two devices:
OnePlus X
Pros:
+Design and build quality
+oxygen OS with updates
+LTE support
+AMOLED display
+8 MP front camera
+Micro SD support
+Big Custom rom support coming
+Corning Gorilla Glass 3
Cons:
-SD 801 (but still good processor)
-No ac and 5Ghz Wifi
-No NFC
-No IR blaster
-No USB Type-C
-Small battery
-No front buttons backlights
MI 4C
Pros:
+Buttons backlights
+Type C
+SD 808
+IR blaster
+Wifi ac
+Big battery (but still battery life isn't that great)
+ Very good 13MP camera
Cons:
-No MicroSD (but 32GB must be enough)
-LTE Band 20 (800) missing
-bluish screen (7,844 K) (please, owners report) //PhoneArena
-Source is not published (if it will ever)
-Updates?
-"feel that the phone always takes a few milliseconds too long to respond to our touch." //PhoneArena //Fixed
-One Glass Solution (if it break you can make say goodbye to touchscreens)
What do you think?
Thanks!
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If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
cowithgun said:
If you get Mi4c, there is no competition, Mi4c is superior in areas that really matters:
1. Performance: Snapdragon 801 vs 808.
- This is the heart of your phone, it determine the snappiness, performance and even power consumption of your phone.
- 808 has big.LITTLE. During idle, your SOC will use very little power because only the "little cores" are running. It safes battery. When you need performance, the A57 cores high performance will start.
- Snapdragon 808's Cortext A57 is one generation ahead of the 801's Krait 400.
- 808 is 64 bit. Simply recompiling an App with 64 bit gcc gain up to a few % performance. Free.
- Adreno 418 vs 330
- 20nm vs 28nm technology. Lower nm mean more efficient; lower power consumption and/or higher performance
- This alone should be reason enough to get Mi4c.. why still chose old SOC???
2. Battery
- 3080mAh vs 2525 mAh
- That's 21% more battery...
3. Display
- IPS vs AMOLED
- It's matter of personal preference, I take IPS any day. I love bright screen and ability to use comfortably even under the bright sun.
- Mi4c display is 1 of the best I have seen, really black and good contrast. Read more: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_4c-review-1328p3.php
- Mi4c's front buttons backlights basically give you another 10% more screen space.
About ROM, mi4c has weekly update. Although the device has not launched outside of China yet, there are already 4 customs ROM available:
1. Unofficial EU MIUI
2. Unofficial CM12.1
3. Preview Android M (http://en.miui.com/thread-178779-1-1.html)
4. AOSP ROM (http://en.miui.com/thread-178354-1-1.html)
I have been using the phone for over a month now, really happy with it.
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Agree. I pick Mi4C because once I spend money, I want to use hardware for as long as possible. Mi4C is more future ready with USB-C, WiFi-ac, 64bit compliance and cost. AMOLED is one thing that I'd miss but guess that's a minor negative.
shangxor said:
Do you mind sharing all tweeks/settings you have to get the good battery life on cm12.1 pleaee? And do you have the gps locatiin bug?
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No tweaks but aggressively toggling settings like aeroplane mode when on my train journey to/from work (no reception), only turning sync on when I connect to WiFi and then only connecting to WiFi occasionally to check emails. No bluetooth, location (yes, locking on is buggy for me but can get it eventually)
I love my Mi4C, the power, the battery life, the design and the display is awesome (and its not blueish) before I'd buy One Plus X, I would rather buy a Xiaomi Mi4
I just wish the Mi 4c had either 64GB or SD card support as well as band 20, I don't care about NFC. If it had those it'd be the perfect phone for me!
The Mi 4c is superior but if you really need band 20 e. g. you instead have to use 2G there's no way around the one plus x
either way both are solid phones
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
geko95gek said:
Mi4C is still not released worldwide, which means there will be issues if you want claim warranty. Oh and it's build is so plastic.
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Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
ermacwins said:
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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Totally agree
ermacwins said:
Thats the gamble. I have read one plus warranty/cs is not good and very hard to get hold of.
About the plastic, its not cheap like how samsung use to have, its better than the Nexus 5X, compared with bros phone. Think of it as premium plastic
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I guess but at least OP have a global division where RMA and warranty issues get handled. Which is so much better than importing a phone yourself and then having to send it back to China if something goes wrong.
I know what you mean about he plastics, I've had 2 Xiaomi devices myself before. 1 of which was plastic, and it felt alright but if I have a choice I'd always avoid any type of plastic.

Xiaomi mi4. Worth it?

I currently have an lg g2 that I really like. The xiaomi mi4 is currently on sale for 155$. It is a really good deal and I am going to sell my g2 for the same amount. The question is, is it worth it? What advantages will I get with the mi4? I am scarred to get a yellow spot on my g2's screen, because it is very common. I also like miui a lot, but I hate lag. I can see the slightest lag
You may just buy Redmi Note 3 Pro instead of Mi4, it has better chip. It has fast development like mi4. I bought mi4 for IDR 1,6 million (about USD 120) for my wife yesterday, but after I know how fast the development of Reno 3 Pro is, I realize "buy Redmi Note 3 Pro" is better choice.
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http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6518&idPhone2=7863
Reno 3 Pro has MicroSD Expansion or dual simcard if you choose. With thinner body.
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Yes, I must agree on the Redmi Note 3 Pro. I also had a G2 as my main driver, but after some beating it took, it needed replacement after more than 2 years of use.
I did an extensive research, and was most likely to buy G3 or G4. But the thing that bothers me about those phones is:
a) processor - 801 is not much of a upgrade, and I would rather avoid 808/810, for heating issues/throttling, which means inadequate performance in the long run, and faster battery drain.
b) No physical buttons - this is very subjective, but I hate the software buttons for my reasons, and would much rather go for a phone with physical buttons
c) Design - G4 has an attractive design, but G3 looks very similar to the G2, which got boring to me.
d) Display - I do NOT want 1440p display on a phone, for my own reasons (battery life). Plus, the G3 supposedly has washed out colors.
After a ~month of research, I found out about the Snapdragon 650 and 652, and boy, after owning the Note 3 Pro for about a month now, I can say that the processors are incomparably better than the 808/810 (which leads me to an obvious question - is the 20nm TSMC process to blame? I really believe it is.).
The pros of Note 3 Pro
- price: 32GB/3GB version (the only one you want) cost me about 270 USD, brand new delivered from China by DHL, with custom fees pre-paid and insured.
- display: although 5.5 inch is maybe ever so slightly bigger than an ideal size for one-handed usage, the display looks stunning. I'm getting compliments on the display from everyone who sees it. The colors are so vibrant and saturated! I just love to look at the display (not to say that the G2 didn't have a good display - it is just no match for this one.)
- performance: absolutely unbeatable. I though the G2 was fast enough. Well, that changed when I got my hands on the Snapdragon 650. In my opinion, this SoC can only be beaten by 652, 820 and the 14nm Exynoses. Not to mention that the RAM and eMMC is most likely also much faster compared to the G2.
- battery life: Great, awesome, super cool. 4000 mAh and a very good SoC means that this thing will ALWAYS last you the whole day, even if you throw the heaviest workloads on it.
- and other minor things, like the great fingerprint sensor, MIUI goodies, great Wi-Fi, bluetooth and cellular reception, very clear and loud call speaker, microSD, dual SIM, etc.
Cons:
- missing LTE band 20 - the only thing that bothers me about this phone. Even though I live in a big city, I often have problems getting LTE signal - G2 did not have this problem and always had a reliable LTE connection
- locked bootloader - which can be unlocked, but official way is really cumbersome, as you have to wait for 2 weeks to get a permission to unlock, and even then, I managed to unlock it only after switching to a china dev rom (from global stable). After you get it OFFICIALLY unlocked, this is no longer a problem (there is also an unofficial way, but I wouldn't really recommend it, due to the hassle with flashing roms, which can brick your phone if done wrong).
- as with all stock ROMs, also MIUI is bloated with (for me) useless applications. I like to keep my phones as clean as possible, to maximize performance and battery life. But yeah, after you get a custom recovery and root, you can debloat it to your liking
All in all, I am more than satisfied with this phone. Right now, I would maybe switch it for a Mi5, but the price gap is not justifiable in my opinion.
TL;DR: Get the Redmi Note 3 Pro 32GB!

[SPECS] Lenovo Phab 2 Pro - World's First Project Tango Smartphone

Here you'll find specifications for Lenovo Phab 2 Pro provided by Gadgets NDTV.​
General
Dimensions (mm): 179.80 x 88.60 x 10.70
Weight (g): 250.0
Battery capacity (mAh): 4050
Removable battery: No
Display
Screen size (inches): 6.40
Resolution: 1440 x 2560 pixels
Hardware
Processor: 1.8 GHz Octa-core
Processor make: Qualcomm Snapdragon 652
RAM: 4GB
Internal storage: 64GB
Expandable storage: Yes (via microSD)
Camera
Rear camera: 16-megapixel
Flash: Yes
Front camera: 8-megapixel
Software
Operating system: Android 6.0
Connectivity
Wi-Fi: Yes
Wi-Fi Standards supported: 802.11 a/ b/ g/ n/ ac
GPS: Yes
Bluetooth: Yes
NFC: Yes
Infrared: No
USB OTG: No
Headphones: 3.5mm
FM: No
GSM/CDMA: GSM
3G: Yes
4G/LTE: Yes
Supports 4G in India (Band 40): No
Sensors: Compass/Magnetometer, Proximity, Accelometer, Ambient light, Gyroscope, Barometer
I'm very excited for about this phone. I hope there will be nice software development for it.
Definitely interested in the Plus and Pro versions of this device.
I've been using a Huawei Mate 7 for nearly a year now and I'm fine with the size factor of it, and I think I'd like the even larger size of the Phab 2. I can't wait to see some tests on the finished product and some camera samples. :fingers-crossed:
Good to know that it does have NFC, GsmArena doesn't have NFC listed for it, but not having USB OTG is a bummer. I also wonder if it has MHL and WiFi Direct.
I just signed up for when its going to be released, this might be my next new phone.
I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
thefinancemaster said:
I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
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I don't like it either. But unfortunately CDMA only takes up 15% of the market (mostly North America) while the GSM standard takes up 85% of the market share. So if I were a smartphone manufacturer, unless I had an exclusive contract with Verizon or Sprint, I'd put all my energy towards making my device compatible with the most broadly used standard.
CDMA is starting to make some inroads in other countries, so maybe that will spur more device manufacturers to include the CDMA frequencies in future phones.
Thanks for the insight Clarkson. I didn't realize that there was such a big difference, but I knew there was one. This may be extremely naive, but doesn't it seem like they could just include CDMA radios and charge an extra $20 or something? I have a Nexus 6P that I'm extremely happy with right now, but I'm always on the lookout for my next phone. This one is unlocked and I activated it on Verizon, so I know they can do it!
Phone doesn't have NFC I posted this on Lenovo site and got answer from "Lenovo"
Does it have NFC ?
1 answer
Lenovo · 3 hours ago
No it does not
Champagne Gold?
Any word on when champagne gold will be available? If I'm spending $500, why not be happy with the color?
The other disappointment for me is the micro USB. I suppose I can compromise on the lack of USB-C but I've been spoiled.
I currently use a ZTE Zmax Pro, a quick pick up after returning the Note 7. I discovered that I loved the 6-inch screen. Why not go for a 6.5 with higher screen resolution?
The camera and battery of the Phab 2 pro are much better. I'm a big OneNote stylus user so the screen real estate is more attractive to me than Tango.
[Queen OTE=H. Clarkson;67493220]Definitely interested in the Plus and Pro versions of this device.
I've been using a Huawei Mate 7 for nearly a year now and I'm fine with the size factor of it, and I think I'd like the even larger size of the Phab 2. I can't wait to see some tests on the finished product and some camera samples. :fingers-crossed:[/QUOTE]
I am glad the US is finally getting a phone this size with decent specs. I used to have the Z Ultra back in the past but their camera was dismal and had no flash but it was still a beast. I see the Phab 2 Pro as it's replacement for me as far as size, camera, screen resolution and full LTE support. I think Sony dropped the ball big time by not having a follow-up to the Z Ultra....I am currently using the Mate 8 but I have used the Mi Max and Honor Note 8 this year as well but the Mate 8 won me over and after I get this Phab 2 Pro..I will not get another phone for awhile
Z Ultra also had bezel from hell. Its touch screen eventually stopped working on me. I had the GPE.
4G LTE Verizon works
thefinancemaster said:
I would love it if this phone had CDMA compatibility. I'm stuck on Verizon in my area, so once again I'm disappointed...
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This phone works on Verizon 4G
Does this phone get calls over VoLTE or drop to 3G like the Phab 2?
01/26/17 EDIT: I had to go buy one to find out for myself... YES this device uses VoLTE (HD) For Calls.

Done a ton of research to pick the next phone. Still cannot decide. Help!

First of all welcome everyone, glad to be a part of this forum. I've been lurking XDA developers since long, long time ago back in the PDA era (HTC SPV M5000 anyone?).
I've owned my Galaxy Note 2 for over 2.5 years now and I'm tired of constantly running out of internal storage and the now-supar camera. I'm looking to buy a new smartphone that will check off many boxes, but if I could describe what I need in 2 sentences, it would go something like: a large-screened productivity workhorse with loads of storage and battery, and a good camera. And if it's future-proof, that's even better! I want a device that will last me for at least 2+ years.
Here's what I'm looking for:
- Screen size between 5,5" and 6"
- Internal storage min. 32 GB, needs to have a microSD card slot (unless it has 128G internal storage)
- Decent camera with OIS (camera should handle low-light shooting well)
- Decent UI (unlike the majority of community here, I don't really want to be flashing my phone with new ROMs or any of that, I just want something that works well right out of the box and is user-customizeable through custom home launchers etc)
- Great battery life (this is big for me, I'm often on the road, I listen to tons of podcasts, use mobile data, bluetooth, sometimes wifi tethering etc. I need a phone that can get me through a looong day)
- Fingerprint scanner
- Won't put a huge hole in my wallet (I wouldn't mind paying more for the perfect and FUTURE-PROOF phone but seems like there isn't one that checks off all the boxes. At the same time I'm trying to keep it below $500)
- A physical home button is a plus (and capacitive buttons! Just like in Samsung Galaxy series)
- Screen res. above 1080p is a plus (better for VR and I will probably try some VR in near future)
- Replaceable battery is a plus (plus extended phone cases, yay!)
- OTG support is a plus
- USB-C is a plus
- Dual SIM is definitely a plus
- No curved screens like on the Samsung Edge series
I looked at:
- Huawei Mate 8 - checks off most boxes, nice big battery but crappy, buggy, and not very customizable UI.
- Huawei Mate P9 Plus - very interesting camera-wise, the rest just like above
- LG G5 - also very interesting camera-wise, a bit smaller screen, and a battery that's way too small. Although replacable, I cannot imagine remembering to bring a spare battery with me everywhere.
- Nexus 6P - great reviews and everything, great software BUT I'm mostly based in China where ALL Google services are blocked, so it would probably be a big pain to have to rely on VPN the whole time. Also camera has no OIS, although I did read it's great. Another con: a bit expensive and not easily available in the 128G version
- Samsung Galaxy A9 Pro - the top contender for me so far. The 5000mAh battery is nuts and just what I need. Dual SIM and dedicated microSD slot. Affordable. But the big bummer: sub-par camera. Also a bit low on the DPI if I ever want to use VR. And no notification light (how am I supposed to know if I got notifications?)
- Samsung Galaxy Note 4 - a bit slower than the A9 Pro, smaller battery, but better camera. And the stylus - I could definitely use the stylus for more productivity. Just really not sure about investing in the aging technology. I want to get at least 2 years out of the new smartphone. Also I've read there's some issues with GPS that are hard to solve. Added benefit of possibility of extended battery case.
- Samsung Galaxy Note 5 - nice and seems like a significant upgrade from Note 4 but no card slot, and expensive at 128G. Still only microUSB v2.0 even at the high price point.
- LG V10 and LG G4 - very interesting propositions, reportedly good cameras, very mediocre batteries (and not too good power management it seems) at 3000mAh but both could be extended with a bigger battery. Pretty sure I would be fine with a little bulkier phone with a case that accommodates a 4000-6000mAh battery, but I would still need to keep it as slim as possible, I don't mind if it's not the slimmest phone but I certainly don't want a thick and heavy brick in my pocket. I've also read reviews of some of the extended battery cases and it seems like the battery quality can be a real lottery. The batteries lose their capacity quickly, and I think none of them can be charged using the Quick Charge 2.0
- ZTE Avon 7 - veeery interesting proposition, not the biggest battery but almost everything else knocks me out of my socks. 6GB RAM possible, 128G storage that can be expanded by another 128G (!), capacitive buttons in the higher version, an added benefit of insane speakers. The camera is reportedly not too impressive though, although I'm pretty sure it's better than the one in Galaxy A9 Pro. The main concerns: it's a very fresh phone, the UI is reportedly not very optimized, I can imagine there will be plenty of issues that ZTE will need to fix through software before this phone runs as smoothly as the Galaxy A9 Pro or LG G4 would. And I hate waiting in hopes. Also, being in China, I think it's a bit tricky to purchase the phone in International/European version that has a broader range of bands and doesn't block Google services. I've read through the entire 35 page thread on XDA about this phone and yes, it seems like you can get the Google services to work without problems but who knows what the next ZTE updates will do to that. The way I generally see it is Chinese UI = potential problems.
For the Galaxy A9 Pro or LG G4 I would just go to Hong Kong to buy them and enjoy a phone that doesn't have the Google services blocked. I couldn't find the ZTE Avon 7 anywhere in HK on the internet.
All in all if I had to go to the store tomorrow I'd probably need to choose between a Galaxy A9 Pro, the well-proven LG G4 with a great camera (but a need to buy a good extended battery case and ultimately ending up with a rather bulky phone), the Galaxy Note 4, and the ZTE Avon 7.
Any suggestions, thoughts, recommendations?

Opinions welcome: ROG Phone 5 vs Xperia 5 II

Hello,
I am going to upgrade my good old LG G5 (running LineageOS 17.1) next week,
and after careful filtering in GSMArena, I have narrowed down my options to ROG Phone 5 and Xperia 5 II,
both models are similarly priced, and they feature most of the specifications I was looking for, with some (less painful) difference:
3.5mm Jack, Dual Speakers, Big fast storage (although ROG doesn't have microSD),
Good Screens (although my G5 has 1440p..), Top notch Cameras..
I wouldn't do much gaming on either phone, but naturally, some gaming features are always welcome and they have benefits,
like the dual speakers, and the quad-dac setup in the ROG Phone,
I mainly want a fast feature packed phone, great for vacations and content consumption.
Now, the ROG isn't out yet, but what are your opinions looking at both devices, or owning a current xperia?
(or old xperia and old ROG?)
Things that confuse me include:
ROG Phone 5 has a 64MP Sony sensor, but in photo comparison it looks about the same as the 12MP on Xperia,
I know MP isn't everything, and Xperia does have it's own advanced camera apps, apart from the point and shoot basic app
ROG Phone 5 has a 'special' quad DAC, with advertised hardware, but the DAC in the Xperia in unknown as far as I know
ROG Phone 5 doesn't have a microSD slot, so I'd be stuck with the internal storage forever, this is potentially a slight issue
ROG Phone 5 doesn't pass durability tests of 'JerryRigEverything', it fails pretty easily on hand..
Repairability is also a factor for me.. (apart from Magisk and Xposed goodness, which are available for both devices..)
P.S the ROG Phone 5 would be available in stores on the 29 of march, 3 days from this post
P.S#2 Xperia 1 II is more expensive, but Also looks like a good choice

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