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I'm thinking about buying Xperia Z3. I live in USA and have AT&T, so I think I would need the D6603 model to work on AT&T's LTE.
Now, I'm thinking should I buy it from Sony themselves? They are currently selling it for $630. Or should I just wait till February for the Xperia Z4? I've been reading lots of problem with quality assurance and it's making me scared to buy the Z3.
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I'm thinking about buying Xperia Z3. I live in USA and have AT&T, so I think I would need the D6603 model to work on AT&T's LTE.
Now, I'm thinking should I buy it from Sony themselves? They are currently selling it for $630. Or should I just wait till February for the Xperia Z4? I've been reading lots of problem with quality assurance and it's making me scared to buy the Z3.
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The way I see it, I've yet to come across a phone that is 100% on build quality. Maybe it's happened, but I haven't been apart of it. If you wait for the Z4, chances are you could have the same issues. If you are gonna wait that long, you could always check back and see if the Z3 is 1. Cheaper when the Z4 comes out and 2. Build quality in later batches have been better.
Personally I have no issues with my D6603 on Bell.
I am one of those unlucky customers. On my third one now (it is currently being shipped to me). First one had a defective camera. Second one had a bad QA with the micro USB flap--one side of the flap has a bigger gap when closed fully.
StrikeZero said:
I'm thinking about buying Xperia Z3. I live in USA and have AT&T, so I think I would need the D6603 model to work on AT&T's LTE.
Now, I'm thinking should I buy it from Sony themselves? They are currently selling it for $630. Or should I just wait till February for the Xperia Z4? I've been reading lots of problem with quality assurance and it's making me scared to buy the Z3.
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Wait till Z4 its a much bigger upgrade. Z2->Z3 is comparatively minor. I got the Z3 because I just joined T-Mobile so I had to buy a phone, otherwise would have waited for the Z4.
You can still get the Z3 its a good device just check it in the Sony store itself for any defects, and exchange if there is an issue. I think the D6606 should be good, it was the D6616 that had a lot of issues as TMO got dumped a bad batch, I exchanged 3 on my 4th here lol. Then again TMO is also getting a lot of iPhone returns due to defects, according to reps. This happens with every company, there will be a few bad batches here and there, especially when a device is newly released.
Happy people don't complain/or say how great their device is on forums, they are too busy enjoying, that's why forums are skewed towards those with issues so be aware of that.
Sup, I was planning to ask this here as well until I found this thread already made. I'm considering switching from an iPhone 5, to the Z3 now that it's officially out for pre-order in the US. I already own a Z2 Tablet myself and so far it's been pretty fantastic. I've actually grown to really prefer android over iOS, which is one of the reasons for switching. (That and my iPhone has been having nonstop issues ever since iOS 8, and the iPhone 6 was kinda... lame this year IMHO.)
Anyway, as someone coming from an iPhone 5, should I wait for the Z4? Or get the Z3 now as it's a fairly large jump anyways? I can actually get a 10% discount from it's current price too (via student discount 630USD -> 566USD)
I read that the Z4 might be announced in February-March, but judging from the previous releases, it might be actually released near May-June? (7-8 Months)
I'm aware of some of the issues with the Z3, but as abhinav.tella stated, occasionally devices usually have some bad batches at the start.
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Sup, I was planning to ask this here as well until I found this thread already made. I'm considering switching from an iPhone 5, to the Z3 now that it's officially out for pre-order in the US. I already own a Z2 Tablet myself and so far it's been pretty fantastic. I've actually grown to really prefer android over iOS, which is one of the reasons for switching. (That and my iPhone has been having nonstop issues ever since iOS 8, and the iPhone 6 was kinda... lame this year IMHO.)
Anyway, as someone coming from an iPhone 5, should I wait for the Z4? Or get the Z3 now as it's a fairly large jump anyways? I can actually get a 10% discount from it's current price too (via student discount 630USD -> 566USD)
I read that the Z4 might be announced in February-March, but judging from the previous releases, it might be actually released near May-June? (7-8 Months)
I'm aware of some of the issues with the Z3, but as abhinav.tella stated, occasionally devices usually have some bad batches at the start.
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You can check for defects at TMO/Sony store itself so don't worry about buying the phone, its good. However if you can wait get the Z4, even if you get the Z3 you can't go wrong but as I said the Z4 will be a bigger jump.
I would get it on contract or with insurance. This phone isn't built like a premium flagship, and looks good until the wear starts creeping in. Mine is perfect, but the cotton corners (or whatever they're made of) are starting to look a little iffy lol.
There's a number of things on the Z3 that mean it's worth waiting for a Z4 as well but you'll find those issues all over the forum.
Can't say you won't experience the same issues on a Z4 though.
Buy now, upgrade later. Enjoy what you can get today, you aren't promised a Z4 or Z5 or whatever MAY be next.
I don't know that there is a single phone without fault. I just purchased mine yesterday and so far, we are getting to know each other just fine.
I was really waiting for the Nexus 6 until the rumors of the 6" screen were true. I was guttee and thus began my quest for a different device. I have a Nexus 4, I got my sister the Nexus 5 last year and having to break ties with nexus was not easy
It really depends what you are after. Most phones today are similar it is a matter of what your personal needs are.
I was debating between the Moto X 2nd ed (not avail in stores, online only) and the Z3. I live in London and had the opportunity to play with a phone at a Sony stand inside one of our malls out here. Absolutely loved it. I travel a lot and so having a 20 MP camera with all of the amazing features was a no brainer.
Guys, there is time to change my Xperia mini PRO.
I am curious your opionion about idea of buying Nexus 5 today. Price is about 190$. Is it a good idea?
Do you know better phones at this price? This Marshmallow on N5 and bad reviews of N5x pushing me to N5.
Second question is about American version of N5 (D820). Does anybody use this model in Europe? Will this model work in Europe?
Thanks for answers.
I still have my N5 even though I've upgraded to an N6, and I would not hesitate to recommend the N5, especially if you can get it at a good price.
I've got Marshmallow on it, and the Doze feature seems to work well - I last charged it on 11th October, a week ago, and with the occasional check on it to make sure that the battery's ok it has dropped by only 21% to 79%, with an estimated 25 days left. That's with airplane mode on, of course, but still great performance.
The screen is still terrific, performance is great, and looking back I probably shouldn't have bought the N6 - I reckon that the N5 can still stand up to most of the flagship phones around today.
The added bonus of course is that you always have the latest version of the ROM, long before other vendors provide it.
Me, I'd definitely say go for it.
I just bought my second N5 on ebay for $185.
It was always one of my favorite phones. Bought it to use marshmellow.
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As title really, is this phone still good?
How is battery life (I know that will differ dependant on loads of factors), but in general, is it ok?
Any annoying quirks or issues with the latest updates?
My wife's Xperia Z is on its last legs and carphone warehouse are selling the S6 on O2 for £29.99 up front, £26.50 per month for 3Gb data and unlimited everything else. It's well within our budget so I think she wants to replace the Z with that. She only uses her phone for the camera to take pics of our daughter and selfies, Facebook, and internet browsing so she doesn't need latest and greatest and the S6 looks to fit the bill.
There's also the option of the S7 for the same upfront cost, but £32.00 p/m on vodafone but as she won't really have much use of the upgraded specs, we might save ourselves a bit of cash and go for the S6.
It's the 32gb version and I know on release, you were getting roughly 23gb of usable storage out the box, what can she expect now after all the system updates etc (EU Unbranded)?
El Presidente81 said:
As title really, is this phone still good?
How is battery life (I know that will differ dependant on loads of factors), but in general, is it ok?
Any annoying quirks or issues with the latest updates?
My wife's Xperia Z is on its last legs and carphone warehouse are selling the S6 on O2 for £29.99 up front, £26.50 per month for 3Gb data and unlimited everything else. It's well within our budget so I think she wants to replace the Z with that. She only uses her phone for the camera to take pics of our daughter and selfies, Facebook, and internet browsing so she doesn't need latest and greatest and the S6 looks to fit the bill.
There's also the option of the S7 for the same upfront cost, but £32.00 p/m on vodafone but as she won't really have much use of the upgraded specs, we might save ourselves a bit of cash and go for the S6.
It's the 32gb version and I know on release, you were getting roughly 23gb of usable storage out the box, what can she expect now after all the system updates etc (EU Unbranded)?
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Tbh you're better off paying the extra 5.50 and getting the s7. That being said the s6 is still a decent phone, battery life could be better Tbh even with varied usage, but apart from that the rest of the phone is still good, camera is still one of the best, real time performance is very good. With the s7 you're getting expandable storage, longer update cycle, bigger battery too
Thanks!
I've just discovered I get a 20% discount corporate discount on EE contracts via my employer so some of their S7 contracts look pretty appealing now.
Hey guys im looking for a good phone for about 450 dollars max and for me there are three options atm at this price tag the Galaxy S6 , Huawei Honor 8 and Sony X performance .
Wait until after MWC 2017. Prices may drop after upcoming phones are announced. If I had to get a new phone right now for $450 or less, I'd consider the Honor 8 (only if on sale for $300), Axon 7, or Nextbit Robin ($160 on Amazon!).
Or maybe OnePlus 3T if it isn't too big. I defo wouldn't buy S6 for 450$. And dont buy used one, if so! Isnt S7 for around 500$? In Europe you can get it for 470 € off contract.
Zakelinho said:
Or maybe OnePlus 3T if it isn't too big. I defo wouldn't buy S6 for 450$. And dont buy used one, if so! Isnt S7 for around 500$? In Europe you can get it for 470 € off contract.
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The 3T is 510 dollars and has to be imported so it may have aditional taxes and the S7 is 560 off contract . If i had the money i would have bought the S7 Edge
nope, not worth getting the s6, battery is just too small and it has a lot of minor issues with battery drain, random crashes etc, especially on the AT&T unit. You would be better of getting a One Plus 3t or any of the newer phones. Plus they might already be running or will soon get Nougat
Just bought one a couple weeks ago and it's perfectly fine. Well, apart from the battery life, which is, quite frankly, poor. Everything else is perfectly fine and the camera is still top-notch. If, however, you can get the Honor 8 for the same price, I'd recommend you get that. Apart from the camera, it's a better all-rounder. I've recently had the Xperia X Performance and would not recommend in a million years, horrible phone. Battery life is poor, camera is weaker than competitors and I had loads of performance (!) issues and bugs/crashes/freezes. Tried all resets to no avail.
I use S6 for over a year now, my wife has one too. Not looking for an upgrade yet. Screen is fine, battery still holds a decent charge and we never had any crashes etc. Have a look at 2nd hand or refurbished units too. Or check OnePlus2. Have a look around for LG G5. I have a G5 along with S6 and would have a hard time if I was told to pick just one of those 2.
I wouldn't pick the S6. It's overall an ok phone. But the battery is a joke. 2600 mAh. It will be an everlasting battle for battery optimisation and as much screen on time as possible.
But as other people as mentioned, wait until the end of the month and maybe get the S7
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I wouldn't pick the S6. It's overall an ok phone. But the battery is a joke. 2600 mAh. It will be an everlasting battle for battery optimisation and as much screen on time as possible.
But as other people as mentioned, wait until the end of the month and maybe get the S7
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2550mAh to be precise.. it's definitely a no-no for 2017... there's s7 or oneplus3T.
Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
dishe2 said:
Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
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I think it's a good idea, with some caveats. Excellent for the mentioned needs, but as said, even if it's described as 'Mint', odds are the battery has been cycled hundreds of times.
This is listed on ebay for 219, brand new, unlocked. I've bought from that seller and they are reputable for sure. At least going that route you won't have to worry about the battery.
Yeah no more official updates from google, but Lineage will continue to make builds for this device for (probably) years to come.
Absolutely worth considering.
Things to look out for - a locked bootloader. Verizon and AT&T phones have locked bootloaders. You can't install LOS with a locked bootloader, so no more updates for those phones. Also, when sellers say the phone is unlocked, they mean the SIM is unlocked, not the bootloader.
I'd go with a new, unused phone if you can still find one. Besides battery on a used phone, there is this problem to consider. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/fix-pixel-3-qusb_bulk_cid-xxxx_sn-xxxxxxxx.4205331/
I just had my Pixel 3 battery replaced at uBreakIfix for $100. The original battery lasted 2 years. I could have nursed it along a few months more, but decided it was time.
Also consider a new Pixel 2, if you can find one. I bought a new Pixel 2 XL a couple of months ago. It was much cheaper than the Pixel 3s were going for.
dishe2 said:
Looking to get one of these for my daughter. She broke her Nokia 7.1 display and asked for something that takes better pictures if we're replacing her phone anyway. I had Gcam running on that Nokia but I think an actual Pixel would do her better, and just run smoother too.
With the current prices for used/refurbed, I think a P3 XL would be great, even if there are no more updates for it.
What do you guys think? Any versions to avoid or issues to look out for? Someone mentioned that battery life is iffy especially on a used model, but she's not a power user (mostly music, some messages and calls and occasional selfies with friends- no social media or browsing).
Good idea or bad idea?
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Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
dishe2 said:
Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
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The battery would still last me all day, but it would discharge very fast once it got under 30%. I figured I'd rather replace it than risk losing the phone at a bad time.
As for price, it all depends on what deals you find. I paid $120 for the new Pixel 2 XL a couple of months ago. I get my service for $10 a month (with 500 Mb of data) from RedPocket. I'm quite satisfied with those numbers.
That's a good deal. Can't find a Pixel 2 right now new. I was paying $10 a month for 1GB of data previously but she's constantly running out from google photos and spotify, so was planning on moving up to $15 for 4GB on Mint anyway. Especially right now, buy 3 months get 3 free. So essentially 7.50 a month for the next 6 months!
However... if I get the free sim from Swappa its probably only 3 months. Either way, a good deal. If I buy new from Ebay (even if I could find it), I'd still have to pay for a Mint sim
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Yikes, the battery bit that hard over 2 years, huh?
I bought a Galaxy S10 used that still has decent battery, and my LG G7 which is around the same generation as the Pixel 3 still can go all day. Is the Pixel battery just more prone to conking out early? She could use my LG but honestly I sold her on the Gcam, dual selfies and unlimited google photo storage (she's been using compressed storage for photos since it was free on all phones, and missed the memo about losing all her storage space earlier this year).
Here's the thing:
If I get it from Swappa, it comes with a 3-month Mint SIM trial prepaid. She's on Google Voice so I tend to swap plans around whenever there's a deal, so that knocks about $45 off the price of the phone since I'd be otherwise paying that $15 a month elsewhere. Still worth getting new over that deal? There are pretty mint ones (9 out of 10 condition) for under $150 there, so total would be ~$100 after service discount.
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I recently bought a 'Mint' Lg G8 on swappa, and it 'looked' pretty close to mint, very light small scratches on back. But when I modified the rom so I could see the 'svc menu', the battery stat indicated it had been fully cycled about 280 times. Research indicates a battery should last from 300 to 500 cycles. And just like dcarvil, this G8, when it gets to about 30%, it' drops fast. Incredibly fast.
Other phones I've bought on swappa that were 'open box', actually were exactly that, virtually new. Now we see sellers describe it as 'open box'... without the box!!
It's all anecdotal, some good, some bad, we take our chances.
cheers, good luck.
The Pixel 3 XL is still a great phone and should last a while. The processor is about the same as the Pixel 5.
I would recommend looking on Swappa as it is stricter than Ebay on quality and even a Fair Swappa phone is quite good and should describe the defects in the listing.
On swappa, the cheapest verizon and sprint 3 XL are under $100, but the Google or Tmobile version (which can be boot-loader unlocked and rooted are up to $150. Also notice that at $200 and above you can even get the Pixel 4 XL. Also, the 3a XL may be a cheap option, but it has slower processors so not as good, but still better than the old Nokia 7.1.
I definitely recommend one where the boot-loader is unlock-able as it opens up many options. To stay completely stock or unlock and use any OS build she would like.
elkinm said:
The Pixel 3 XL is still a great phone and should last a while. The processor is about the same as the Pixel 5.
I would recommend looking on Swappa as it is stricter than Ebay on quality and even a Fair Swappa phone is quite good and should describe the defects in the listing.
On swappa, the cheapest verizon and sprint 3 XL are under $100, but the Google or Tmobile version (which can be boot-loader unlocked and rooted are up to $150. Also notice that at $200 and above you can even get the Pixel 4 XL. Also, the 3a XL may be a cheap option, but it has slower processors so not as good, but still better than the old Nokia 7.1.
I definitely recommend one where the boot-loader is unlock-able as it opens up many options. To stay completely stock or unlock and use any OS build she would like.
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I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
dishe2 said:
I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
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bad experience with lineage because u need volte? Volte works perfectly on lineage, sorry but your comment in that regard makes no sense. I had a pix 3 with lineage and volte and vowifi worked perfectly on it.
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Well not on LG or Samsung devices that I've owned. Or Moto.
This is my first pixel, maybe it's different?
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Well not on LG or Samsung devices that I've owned. Or Moto.
This is my first pixel, maybe it's different?
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Well yes it is different. LG and Sammy for sure have proprietary IMS implementations, I'm not sure about Moto. What that means is that if the proprietary implementation can't be ported, then things like volte will only work on stock.
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I found a swappa 128 gb in good condition for $120, and it's supposed to be the Google version so bootloader unlockable!
Just ordered it. I've heard mixed things about the latest A12 roms, so I like the idea of keeping it unlockable for customs. Are there are any good aftermarket roms that stay close to stock re: network function (VOLTE)?
I've have bad experience with Lineage based roms in the past because networks like Tmobile where I live rely on VOLTE for decent calling support.
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VoLTE works fine on my P3 with LOS 18.1.