Anybody knows if its possible to connect usb OTG host and charge the tablet at the same time, i found out a way to enable adoptable storage on USB drives so im planning to offload my console games(borderlands, half-life,etc) to an external hard drive cause i only play them at home when im in console mode, and if it is possible anybody knows where to get one from a reliable seller?
Haha just bought an adapter on amazon.
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Haha just bought an adapter on amazon.
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Does it work charge and enable usb host at the same time? The current one i have acts weird, if i leave tablet alone, usb plugged in host mode as adopted storage my k1 charges, but if i start using it, even on light usage, battery discharges even if it indicates it is charging
Haven't tried it yet. I'll let you know ASAP when I've tested it.
This thread is a little old but still applies:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=2949321&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
USB OTG and Y cables?
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Okay, they one I've got is damaged. Gotta send it back.
The ones Exile suggested I've one of them. Though, they connect all to big female USB! So you'd need another USB cable (Big male USB to micro male USB for the tab).
I've been using this one, and it works pretty well for charging and using OTG at the same time. But it won't recognize USB devices unless the charger is plugged in, probably because it has a built-in hub.
https://www.amazon.com/Adaptor-Powe...=1474901496&sr=1-1&keywords=usb+otg+cable+hub
Thank you for the replies and suggestions, looks like the one im gettting is the same one by @primaleph
Y OTG cables do NOT work with the Shield. I tested a bunch and it's either charging or gamepad but never both simultaneously.
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Y OTG cables do NOT work with the Shield. I tested a bunch and it's either charging or gamepad but never both simultaneously.
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Well actually they do, very2 slow, i hooked the OTG i bought to my charger, my tablet and my printer, then started doing some typing work while listening to some tracks on spotify max volume and at about 20% brightness,, after i finished and checked my battery it went up from 95 to 97, also tried the same with a usb attached, so for light loads it does charge but for gaming, even i lose charge when playing games such as vain glory while the tablet is directly charging so im sure its still gonna drain but probably not as fast as not charging at all, or another thing is not all OTG Y cables are configured the same me and @primaleph just got lucky with the ones we got and yours are probably the not compatible ones
A printer?
Anyhow, it doesn't show the lightning symbol if two devices like charger and gamepad are simultaneously connected. Whereas, using just one of the devices works.
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A printer?
Anyhow, it doesn't show the lightning symbol if two devices like charger and gamepad are simultaneously connected. Whereas, using just one of the devices works.
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Yeah i use an app called printershare, it allows me to use printers directly via usb connection cause i still own those old printers with no wifi connection costs 10 bucks for the license though, i tried with my old usb gamepad and it also charges and gamepad works, i think you need a more powerful charger, i use a tronsmart quickcharge 3.0 with a 2nd port with a max of 6.5V 3amp output which i use to charge it in OTG mode, 5V 2amp chargers should work but sometimes the power cuts out on The devices being connected, happened to me while on a boat trip, boring 2hr ride, me and GF wanted to listen to some music but we both own over the ear headphones not those little earphones, i charge my shield with a powerbank that provides 5V 2A output, plug it in the OTG and use a usb soundcard with with two audio jacks so we both could listen and throughout the trip there are times the soundcard would lose power which was pretty annoying,
Heres a screen recording where it is charging and i attach devices one by one to my shield tablet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3miSU6FpDg
i bought this one , it work not enough quick and don t know if i did well,
i use mode 1 , plug hdd then plug charge, in video they use mode 2
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Ok...so I have ordered 3 different adapters for my samsung galaxy note 10.1, ive tried it when it was rooted and on stock, nothing works, basically i get the usb adapter, plug it in, and the ps3 controller works for like 2 hours...then doesn't work on any of the adapters, it stops reading the ps3 controller and says its a high power device and that's it, , it think it stopped after the controller conected to the ps3 again? can someone please tell me what to do? ! im just fed up!
I use a USB OTG cable and find it only works with devices that don't require power from the USB to work. Maybe a ps3 controller needs an external power supply.
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I use a USB OTG cable and find it only works with devices that don't require power from the USB to work. Maybe a ps3 controller needs an external power supply.
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maybe, but it's so frustrating because i saw youtube tutorials and tutorials on here about what to do even with xbox controllers, im just having no luck with it at all, doesn't even allow me to do it wirelessly, but usb memory sticks work fine just the controllers...
I'm not sure if this would work but since you have got 3 cables experimenting with one wouldn't be a great loss...
Usb cables have 4 connections. 2 are data 1 is +5v and one ground -
If you cut about half way into one of your USB OTG cables and found the +5v and ground - cables and cut them so your tablet can't see a load then with another USB cable (male plug side only) connected the +5v and Ground - only to the female side of your USB OTG only so it could power the ps3 controller.
Then you would plug the extra USB plug into another USB socket like a PC or laptop or similar to power the ps3 controller.
Just an idea.
Edit: Or just find the red cable in one of your USB OTG cables and cut it. You will have to charge the usb controller another way though.
Your PS3 controller is attempting to charge its battery from the USB port/OTG connector. The port can only supply amperage for so long before protection circuitry kicks in and keeps itself from melting down. Atleast that's the way I would do it if I were an electrical engineer
Yes even data cards do not work
I find I can use memory sticks OK but anything that draws a lot of current gets the (in)famous "high power USB device" notification...
It's a pain in the bum as I would like my $600 Note to use the 1Tb NTFS drive my $400 A501 uses with no problem whatsoever...
Today there are whole host of usb powered devices some are good and some are cheap may be the concept Samsung had was to make sure some device does not pull power more then the tablet can provide and in turn does not overcook some of the components so that have built in a failsafe may be because the single port does multiple functions this has been provisioned
Yeah but when I used a powered HDD it fried not only my Note10.1 but also the portable HDD too... Not happy...
I think it killed the battery to be honest as it got REALLY hot and the battery dropped from almost fully charged to depleted in about 15 minutes... Also killed the digitiser but the pen still worked. Turned off and left overnight and tab was completely dead next morning....
Very expensive paper weight...:crying:
So I had to go out and get another one, this time 32gb 3g instead of 16gb (eating rice and tuna for the next month or 2)...
Won't be connecting another drive any time soon...
thanks
I would like to be able to buy a cable so that when i am away i can plug my Tab into an HDMI TV and watch movies directly. I know that it is possible but before i root my tab, are there complications on rooted devices that would make this function unavailable?
Any cable recommendations greatly received.
I use MHL cable. Kind of 3 way cable. 1 to your device, 1 to the hdmi port and another 1 is usb charging port
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I went for the Chromecast and Allcast app from clockwork. It gave me some trouble initially but now is working well. I'm yet to test it with WiFi AP as the router. I hope I can use it when I travel without a bringing a router
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I use MHL cable. Kind of 3 way cable. 1 to your device, 1 to the hdmi port and another 1 is usb charging port
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is there any way around this without plugging into a charging port?
I used to use the Ipad and you only needed 1 cable for that...
I wanted to use for presentations so the last thing i want is needing to plug it in charge!
Thanks
its working without charging. but your battery will drain fast.
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its working without charging. but your battery will drain fast.
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Great - how did you do it? lol
I have an MHL-HDMI cable and it was just not connecting at all (without charging) infact I didnt even know you had to plug it into a charger into I read your post, I just went to a meeting room and connected all up again, this time plugging in the charger and hey presto it works!!
As soon as I pull the charger out I loose picture - does that MHL device need charging up?
dont know... mine just work that way... lol... you can also plug in to the usb port on the display.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55638963&postcount=35
Because some TVs have MHL enabled HDMI ports that don't require external power.
So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
Actually... That's normal... An otg adapter puts your device into "power output" mode so it can power a flashdrive or other storage device... So the input/charging mode gets turned off.
Plugging your charger into the hub helps power the external devices so they don't kill your battery so quickly...
No. MHL 3 is meant to charge in parallel. Works on mine. It charges at 700mA only though, pretty slow. You can check the current by Synapse App + Skyhigh Kernel. I think you can configure higher charging rates as well(didn't try). MHL 3 is speced for 2A current.
Yeah... MHL works that way... But the OP says it's also an "OTG hub off ebay" .... So were not just talking about a straight MHL adapter... If it's an OTG hub triggering OTG mode on the tablet... Then it won't charge and it's not suppposed to.
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So I recently got a MHL/OTG adapter off of ebay. The HDMI out and usb ports seem to work no problem. My problem is that when connecting my charging cable to the MHL hub my device isn't getting any power. I have no indications of my battery % going up. That means if I were to stream a movie onto my TV it would work fine but I would run out of battery fast. Does this seem like there's something wrong with the MHL adapter? Is my samsung battery charger not strong enough? Any help with this is greatly appreciated. I have done a bit of research on this and found mixed answers.
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Hi, I also have a MHL/OTG adapter like yours (MHL/OTG/Card Reader) MHL-HDMI works flawless but OTG doesn't.
A USB pendrive that works flawless with an OTG cable it doesn't recognized in the hub while MHL>HDMI it's working.
@xmilar can you please post the link to the MHL/OTG adapter you bought and while yours not charge, are MHL+OTG working simultaniusly?
Thanks!
I've looked into MHL adapters for my Tab S 10.5 and LG G3 but it would require multiple cables and if I replace either or both items and the new item uses a different MHL, I would have to spend more money. I ended up just buying a Chromecast that does the same thing and wirelessly. Best $30 I spent
Hello, I ve bought an MHL adapter, the one with usb connector to charge the tablet when using the mhl, anyway nothing is working. The tablet doesnt charge, and shows 2 times the following : HDMI Connected, then after one second HDMI disconnected, two times. On my Sony phone works with no problems. I have skyhigh kernel and stock rom.
Probably it's not MHL 3?
Sorry for the late reply, if is not MHL 3 why is it working on my Sony Z1 compact with 4.4.4 rooted also.
If the adapter works on a Sony device then its probably based on a standard micro USB connector. According to the wikipedia entry for MHL newer samsung devices use a propriety 11 pin micro USB connector for MHL. There is mention of a "tip" to adapt between 11 pin and 5 pin, perhaps you could buy one of these?
Hi guys
What are you using to power your Tab S and have a hard drive etc connected
at the same time?
Looking for the smallest possible option to limit bulkiness
Thanks!!
what about this cable.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00EJP5X...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=0RE8386SWCWM00V7XPZJ
John.
Yeah looks good....what cables are you guys using for charging and host at the same time?
I heard its not recommended to use an external hard drive without supplying power to the Tab S
Yeah, your right about using an external power supply when using an portable hdd with your tablet as it uses too much power by the hdd, the cable i linked above has an microusb socket for you to plug your tablet usb power adaptor into.
John.
The Y-OTG cables supply power to the OTG device (e.g. SD card USB reader) but not concurrently to the Tab S. Basically all they do is reduce power drain on the TabS. The previous comment to try to use a powered USB hub or a self powered USB device is good advise.
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I have to resist the urge to go cheap on power adapters, after i had an car and an mains adapter start smoking in a week and nearly blew-up my HTC M7, I have been looking at the Belkin USB Adapter 2.4amp it comes with an 25.000 damage warranty, they cost between 15-20£ in the UK.
John.
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Hi guys
What are you using to power your Tab S and have a hard drive etc connected
at the same time?
Looking for the smallest possible option to limit bulkiness
Thanks!!
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Lava silmucharge is the only adapter that works for the tab pro and s series tablets normal usb charge cables wont work http://www.amazon.com/SimulCharge-1-port-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00MOQFUQM trust me i tried them all. They also have a 3 usb port but its kind of big..
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Lava silmucharge is the only adapter that works for the tab pro and s series tablets normal usb charge cables wont work http://www.amazon.com/SimulCharge-1-port-Adapter-Samsung-Galaxy/dp/B00MOQFUQM trust me i tried them all. They also have a 3 usb port but its kind of big..
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Have you tried the ones on aliexpress.com??
They say its otg and charges at the same time
Samsung tablets no longer supports this function that I know of. They used to have a dock mode that would do usb host charge and hdmi out ending with note 8. I tried all types of resistors and cables so far the lava adapter is the only one that worked. It's a solid 1amp charge with usb function. I wasted more money making and buying cables that said worked but never did. If u want ou cheap buy a usb host cable put a 1ohm to 10k potentiometer in between ground and Id pin turn it slow til u see usb host triggered on the tablet but again it could be a waste of money and not work. I had a tab pro trigger usb host and charge that way but was very unstable current. Any questions let me know.
Hi.
In the user manual it says that the touchscreen my act-up while it is used while the tablet is charging if the power supply is unstable.
A quick Google show this is an common issue for a lot of brands of tablet/phones
John.
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Hi.
In the user manual it says that the touchscreen my act-up while it is used while the tablet is charging if the power supply is unstable.
A quick Google show this is an common issue for a lot of brands of tablet/phones
John.
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Never had a issue I bought the lava 3 port silmulcharge sts 3u it has 3 usb host ports I use one for usb dac 1 for ireless mouse/keyboard 1 for flashdrive. It was made for kiosks to always be plugged in and charging according to the guy at lava I talked to. You have to have a dba to get it direct and the shipping is alot from Canada to us so buy from amazon.
Looking for USB-C to HDMI out functionality to share my screen directly with a TV.
HTC used Slimport at one time, but this new device isn't listed. Any thoughts?
Using a USB-Hub with a HDMI-Out. It's working absolutely fine. No problems at all streaming to my TV.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Using a USB-Hub with a HDMI-Out. It's working absolutely fine. No problems at all streaming to my TV.
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Hub? it has a usb-c attachment?
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Hub? it has a usb-c attachment?
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Yes it is. I'm using this one here, which I've bought time ago to stream from mit HTC 10, and am now using with my HTC U11.
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Looking for USB-C to HDMI out functionality to share my screen directly with a TV.
HTC used Slimport at one time, but this new device isn't listed. Any thoughts?
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I have the HTC u11 and would like to know which adaptor you used to stream to your TV the link did not work
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I have the HTC u11 and would like to know which adaptor you used to stream to your TV the link did not work
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Bqeel GN22B USB C HUB Premium Typ-C-Multi-Port Adapter
https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01LYM1Q7K/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_5qmwzbESHHET3
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Does this mean the Continuum Dock would work? I know it works with Asus ChromeBook.
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Yes it is. I'm using this one here, which I've bought time ago to stream from mit HTC 10, and am now using with my HTC U11.
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Are you also able to use the USB ports? I've bought this one: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01J4BO0X8/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item and the HDMI works perfectly, but the USB ports don't work with my usb drives.
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Are you also able to use the USB ports? I've bought this one: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01J4BO0X8/ref=pe_3044161_185740101_TE_item and the HDMI works perfectly, but the USB ports don't work with my usb drives.
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USB ports are in use for e.g. USB sticks and work fine on my end.
The MacBook USB-C to HDMI worked.
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which brand are you using?
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which brand are you using?
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The one I am using Is by cable matters but make sure you get one that charges the phone other wise it drains the battery 100% to 0% in about 2 hours.
You can buy on eBay or Amazon it's about 30$.
Cable Matters USB-C To 4K HDMI Adapter With Power Delivery (2017 MacBook and IMac, Galaxy S8 and Thunderbolt 3 Compatible) In Black
Why not use a chrome cast?
use this usb c hub its the best by far, the only adapter to do 4k 60hz for gaming needs etc but only bad thing is its got usb 2.0 port instead of usb 3.0 which is a bottleneck for hi speed file transfer needs. but other than that it does everything you need it to do like act as a ultra low power 4k 60hz tv box, ultra low power 4k 60 hz gaming rig(emulators etc) and offcourse charging all at the same time via quick charge 3.0 thats 30 watts max. my setup consists of 2x usb gamepad, 4k 60hz hdmi tv with HDR, a 500GB external 2.5"inch hard drive. a usb keyboard and a wireless 2.4ghz mouse all with this adapter oh and another secondary usb 2.0 hub with power and sd card etc connected to the first hub.
from scan.co.uk
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/clu...m_medium=retargeting&utm_campaign=lowerfunnel
you may have initial problems setting up all your devices and enabling enough power to power the phone and the devices so always use powered usb hubs so you dont create a situation where the battery drain is larger than the power being provided. i had to fiddle around to find the sweet spot. for example i realised there are different scenarios when connecting the devices to usb type c hubs. some for example this one im using from scan needs the power charger to be connected the last after connecting hmdi and usb if not done last the power provided is much less or the drain is much higher. when you connect the power leade to the adapter the hdmi display gets cut out and you have to then reconnect the hdmi display to re enable it. i have tested a few of these usb type c hubs with hdmi etc they all seems to have this problem they wont all (display, charge, usb) work when connected at the same time for example connect the devices and display and charge to the hub then connect the hub to the phone, you have to re insert it into the hub after disconnecting it to enable it.
after fiddling around with different combinations for a few days now i have finally been successfull with having a usb external hard drive, hdmi 4k 60hz display and a keyboard and mouse and phone having enough charge to stay on green led while i do everything such as web browse, play games, watch 4k and use keyboard and mouse on my htc u11.
ive noticed when i was using a standard cheap usb optical mouse those with flashing lit leds on all the time caused my charging power to drop so after changing the mouse for a optical 2.4ghz usb mouse it seems to have increased the power for charging which nipped it in the bud for me and my setup. now my htc u11's charge led stays green all the time.
further from my experiments i realised some methods of connecting caused quick charge 3.0 to work but as soon as it reached 100% charge the charge power would drop so slow battery drain would start to happen while other scenarios reduced this battery charge drop rate and was slower in draining. heres another scenario when i plugged everything the display the charger and the usb external hard drive to the scan club 3d dock the hard drive wouldnt work at first then i realised my external hdd was formatted ntfs since it allows large file sizes for 4k movies. then i had to format the external hdd as exfat since ntfs is not recognised in android only fat 32 and exfat. fat 32 dosent allow file sizes above 4gb while exfat and nts do so exfat was the best option for formatting my external hdd since it was recognised by wndows and android. second problem factor i had was that not all secondary hubs would work. i first tried a usb 3.0 4 x port hub (not extrenally powered) and a cheap 4 x port usb 2.0 hub but they wouldnt work with my external usb 3.0 hdd the drive would appear in file explorer but wouldnt show its contents. so then i finally got a usb 2.0 hub with sd card and external power and 3 x usb 2.0 ports and that worked!!! so when connecting a secondary usb hub its most likely needs to be externally powered.
with the new usb type c 3.1 port comes lots of bugs that need to be hammered out on the software firmware level before its all totally plug and play. my htc and the scan club 3d hub didnt work too well at first but after a few htc u11 firmware updates things were alot smoother.
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The one I am using Is by cable matters but make sure you get one that charges the phone other wise it drains the battery 100% to 0% in about 2 hours.
You can buy on eBay or Amazon it's about 30$.
Cable Matters USB-C To 4K HDMI Adapter With Power Delivery (2017 MacBook and IMac, Galaxy S8 and Thunderbolt 3 Compatible) In Black
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ok but which one specifically do you have they have a couple listed on their website
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They won't let me post the link I haven't been on here long enough but go to eBay and type in the search bar CABLE MATTERS USB-C TO HDMI WITH POWER and 2 should pop up those are the ones I am using let me know if it works for you
I can confirm that the continuum dock by Microsoft works well.
Something like this works fine: https://www.ebay.com/i/391979597226
Hi there,
I ordered this one for Amazon "USB C Hub, Excelvan 5 in 1 USB Type C Hub HDMI 4K Transfer with 3 USB 3.0 Ports Power Delivery for new MacBook / MacBook Pro 2015/2016, Smartphoe, Tablet and other USB C Port Equipped Devices" (can't post link as I'm a new user)
I plug in but get nothing it lists support for the HTC 10 which I thought used the same standard.
My phone is on Oreo, can anyone verify HDMI out works for Oreo still?
Is there anything required to make it work other than plugging in? The USB ports work so thats a start. Also I wonder, the devices I'm plugging in only support 1080p so do I need to change the phone resolution first or should the phone do that automatically?
Thanks in advance!
I purchased another cable and it works! So Oreo isn't an issue.
For those interested the cable purchased was from Ebay UK, search for "Type C USB To HDMI HDTV Cable External Display Adapter for HTC U Ultra U11 10"