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[Q]Stock ROM with franco or CM11?

So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?

battery is all about how you personally use your device, how you set it up, what apps you use, and mostly the quality of your phone/data signal. using either cm kernel or franco kernel can give you great battery life or terrible battery life. any kernel will give you great battery life or terrible battery life.

Longi94 said:
So I recently found out that franco kernel is no longer compatible with cyanogenmod 11. I would like to know which is more battery efficient. Having franco kernel with stock rom or cyanogenmod with the kernel that is shipped with it? Does anyone have experience in this?
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Both are good and have their (dis)advantages. No one can tell you whats best cause different users have different preferences and needs. Best is to try them out yourself and see what you like best.

I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then

Longi94 said:
I am aware of that. I admit that I am quite the power user which mostly results in a pretty bad battery life. I just wanted to know which option has the better potential with the same amount of usage. I guess I'll experiment with it myself then
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im one of the heaviest users you will meet, yet i still see a minimum of 5h+ screen on time every day. set up your device right, and if you have a great signal you will have very hood battery life no matter what you use.

Combine rooted stock, Franco kernel and the Xposed framework plus it's various modules and you will get most of the Custom ROM features along with better battery life and stability. I'm very pleased with that combo.
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[Q] ElementalX kernel

i wqould like to know what other kernal do you guys use. and whats the best most optimum setting to tweak from elementalx kernal?

shaufaan92 said:
i wqould like to know what other kernal do you guys use. and whats the best most optimum setting to tweak from elementalx kernal?
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Flash away

Try them all give each one about 2 days and see which one gives you the best battery life. In the kernel thread they will say what version is giving the best battery life so try the one everyone is happy with. Make sure to search. Happy flashing!

Use whichever kernel has the feature set you want then tweak it as you like. Kernel x is no better than kernel y for battery life. It just has different governor settings.
Also there is no optimal setting. Its down to taste but usually the kernel dev will tweak to favour battery, balance or performance.
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What is best ROM for performance and decent battery by your own experience?

Title says it all, I'm currently using PA and I'm not satisfied with performance.

none

try a different kernel. performance and battery doesn't come from Roms. performance from kernels, battery from your use. battery life all depends on your personal use, your personal setup, your apps installed, and the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is minor battery-wise.

simms22 said:
try a different kernel. performance and battery doesn't come from Roms. performance from kernels, battery from your use. battery life all depends on your personal use, your personal setup, your apps installed, and the quality of your phone/data signal. everything else is minor battery-wise.
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Can you recommend me good kernel for CyanogenMod 11?

Isus <3 said:
Can you recommend me good kernel for CyanogenMod 11?
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well, i personally dont use cm, so cant really recommend a cm kernel. i know cm users could recommend one. i hear elemental has a good cm kernel..

[QUOTE=Isus
I use simple aosp with Franco kernel
Set the hotplug on Franco to 90 and governor to interactive
Now enjoy both performance and battery life

SirMatin said:
I use simple aosp with Franco kernel
Set the hotplug on Franco to 90 and governor to interactive
Now enjoy both performance and battery life
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he is using cm.. franco kernel isnt cm compatible.

I installed elemental x its badass

Isus <3 said:
I installed elemental x its badass
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great!
as it was the only good kernel for cm that i personally knew of

"Best" ROM.
There is no such thing as a best ROM. The question itself is ambiguous. "Best" is obviously a subjective term.
What I want from a ROM may well differ from what you want from a ROM, ergo - what is best for me could be worst for you.
If you are asking what the most popular ROMs are, or which ROMs people are using, you can see which threads stay around on the first few.pages (and have the most posts) in the Android Development or Original Android Development
forums. You can also see what other people are running by reading the What are you running on your Nexus 5 thread.
If you are asking which is the most stable, being a Nexus device - they're all pretty stable.
If you are asking which is best on Battery, ROMs only affect battery if they have a feature that is badly coded. You will likely be able to read about this in the ROM threads. ROMs do not impact battery life. The only impact to battery life are your apps, your settings, how you use the phone and mostly, environmental issues such as Phone Signal.
For tips about improving battery life, please read [Battery Life Help] Troubleshoot battery issues here!
"Best" Kernel
Also, please note that as above, "best" is still subjective. What we*all want from a kernel is different. Again, many people have the*misconception that Kernels affect battery life. Let's get this cleared up. Although Kernel devs will build in optimisations and efficiencies that will improve battery life, these are very, VERY tiny...and if 1 kernel has these optimisations, they likely all have.
People will often say "Kernel x is better than kernel y for battery life". This is actually wrong. Kernels respond to user settings. Setting up the governor to favour either battery life or performance is simple enough to do, you just have to do some learning. The reason people think Kernel x is better than y is because developers set their kernels up with their preferred governor settings. This is what we refer to as out-of-the-box settings. The out-of-the-box settings for kernel x may well produce better battery results than the out-of-the-box settings for kernel y, which favour performance. The fact is, you as the user have the ability to tune kernel x or y to perform the same, be that battery or performance - so start learning how to do this yourselves - that way, you can choose the kernel based on the FEATURES you want, and not the fictional performance benefits of one kernel over another.
Hope this helps
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Objectively fastest current rom is?

Now that Pokemon Go was released. I was wondering which rom is in fact, the fastest, especially for gaming. Doesn't matter which android it is, 5.0, 5.1 or 6.
Is it omni rom, exodus, slim? CM is a bit slower than AOSP roms, as far as I have noticed.
What's your opinion on this topic? Any help would be appreciated.

I am using CM 13 from about one week and its the fastest for me. But I changed kernel. Now I have KaminariKernel and I overclocked CPU and GPU. Also I change i/o to bfq. Do you want some ss from my Kernel Adiutor?
yes, I play Pokemon GO on Moto G and its working very well But AR MODE is not working :/

ID crisis 6>AOSP CAF > OMNI> Slim>CM
just my opinion.

I did a Geekbench 3 test previously.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/moto-g-falcon-geekbench-3-test-roms-t3379663
In fact, I further performed the test on all available ROMs that I can find for Moto G (Falcon) which I didn't post here at XDA as I found out that the difference between the "top performers" and "low performers" is less than 2%, which I conclude as insignificant.
Hence, it's my opinion that there's no fastest or slowest ROM, only stable or not, or whether feature-rich (like DU, RR) or stock-like (Omni, Slim, Exodus).

himu_joy said:
ID crisis 6>AOSP CAF > OMNI> Slim>CM
just my opinion.
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In my opinion the IDC6 is not the fastest

To be fair, IDC6 includes a Stock Kernel not optimized for performance. To unlock the ROMs potential, you need to flash KaminariKernel. I suspect most custom ROMs include a Kernel that has been tweaked for performance.

lost101 said:
To be fair, IDC6 includes a Stock Kernel not optimized for performance. To unlock the ROMs potential, you need to flash KaminariKernel. I suspect most custom ROMs include a Kernel that has been tweaked for performance.
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but sir, battery drain beside performance is also an important thing I think. id crisis 6 stock kernel does the job perfectly. butter.

Well, since I wrote this, I moved from the latest exodus to the latest 6.0 omni rom. And well, the difference is massive. No offence to the exodus, but this is like a night and day. Pokemon Go runs great, battery life is solid, overall performance is snappy and fast (it feels like a stock rom back in the day). Thanks for the tips lads!

Thanks SlashSpeed, I am using RRemix and I find Pokemon GO unplayable after a short time, overheats and starts runnning really slowly. I will try omni rom. Although I am not expecting miracles, the 1gb RAM will always hold this phone back
I love this phone and it has been the perfect phone for me until Pokemon GO came out
EDIT: I do not see a Omni rom for the Moto G 4g
Anyone know what the fastest rom would be for Moto G 4g (perigrine)?
I am not worried about battery life, mostly performance.

I recently switched to marshmellow, first on Omnirom (with kaminari kernel) and now on ID6 (always with kaminari kernel). Not even comparable, Omnirom is smooth in daily use, but for gaming ID6 is incredible, it doesn't look even like a moto g anymore, compared to the laggy stock or the (speaking about gaming) Omni...

[Q]Nexus 5 Best rom , kernel for battery life without losing performance[CAF VS AOSP]

Hi ,
I have tried allot of roms and i have tried franco kernel. im trying the latest 'stable' version of nougat from today (AOSP)
My question is, and i know it has be asked before and it usually is preferences. What rom that is VERY STABLE, gives the best battery life without it crashing any apps?
The stock is OK but i don't get good battery life or stability of it atm (4.4.2). have tried 6.0 but it didn't run like i wanted it to run, felt a little slow, and i will probably feel the same about nougat definatly because its a little bit beta ish atm.
The roms that i like the best are the once that are almost completely empty with PICO Gapps + Google maps. no bloatware, no extra features, no special customization just stable, smooth, good battery life aosp lovelyness.
Will i get any benefits in trying a CAF rom? and how do i go to CAF? is it just installing a CAF kernel, rom and TWRP version?
are their any CAF roms that are truly empty (aosp like) ?
and is CAF still a thing because i notice CM left it behind a while ago.
Will playing around with stuff like smart launcher, which are a little bit more basic give me what i want? and Ram managing and phone cleaning software like Cleaner master? because it feels like it helps a little but i have read that it might not be very healthy for ur performance yet the 2GB seems a little bit of a bottleneck atm and it seems to give me a slight boost that i require from time to time when clearing the ram.
also will xposed give me addons etc that might help or is it the same thing as the cleaner master story?
Franco kernel did give me a better battery life. but still not 100% what i wanted (yet i am beginning to think that i might have hit the maximum battery life ,that my battery might be slightly worn out and might need a replacement)
Sorry if this question annoys people because i know there is allot of info to be found and people ask this allot but i can't really seem to find a 100% answers as i want em to be.
Thanks in advance
Tell me what options do i have to get the Lightweight, long battery life, fast simple phone that i desire (Mobile Data needs to be on 24/7)

Pure Nexus with Franco Kernel is a really great setup, especially if you use FKUpdater. Use the Battery Saver profile and the battery life is perfect, with decent enough performance. I've tried multiple CM13 CAF builds, but I don't think I could live without Franco Kernel.

what about security patches?
RancidPenguins said:
Pure Nexus with Franco Kernel is a really great setup, especially if you use FKUpdater. Use the Battery Saver profile and the battery life is perfect, with decent enough performance. I've tried multiple CM13 CAF builds, but I don't think I could life without Franco Kernel.
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I agree, this setup is really great.... except. How do you apply the monthly security patches? Automatic OTA doesn't like SU or custom kernel or custom recovery. I can't seem to find the OTA images to sideload. So a full adb load of _everything_ followed by reinstallation and rerooting? I've looked all over the forum and couldn't find a good way to get those pesky security updates.

Hi, I'm using stock AOSP with ElementalX kernel and I find this team really good. Battery life is decent with a normal usage without games (I usually arrive at the end of the day) also with T2W features active, my nexus have more than 2 years so battery is not so young. The only problem is that the official ElementalX app is not free but doesn't cost so much. I've never tried franco but I've heard great things about it.
About the monthly update I followed this procedure and everything went fine: http://elementalx.org/how-to-install-android-monthly-security-updates/ I'm not 100% sure that it works with every kernel because you will reflash the stock kernel and ramdisk.

RancidPenguins said:
Pure Nexus with Franco Kernel is a really great setup, especially if you use FKUpdater. Use the Battery Saver profile and the battery life is perfect, with decent enough performance. I've tried multiple CM13 CAF builds, but I don't think I could life without Franco Kernel.
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Nice thread
Did you get better battery life with Nexus 5 non-CAF?

_C4k3_ said:
Nice thread
Did you get better battery life with Nexus 5 non-CAF?
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The best battery life I've ever had has been with Pure Nexus and Franco Kernel r89. But a CAF CM14 build should give good results too.

Use CM13 CAF builds. You never come back to AOSP again. Amazing performance and battery backup.
www.nyyu.tk/cm13
Or use Dirty Unicorns for best battery backup. 6hr SOT

badmashchamp said:
Use CM13 CAF builds. You never come back to AOSP again. Amazing performance and battery backup.
www.nyyu.tk/cm13
Or use Dirty Unicorns for best battery backup. 6hr SOT
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Do you recommend Dirty Unicorns with franco kernel for better battery life?

r1akn said:
Do you recommend Dirty Unicorns with franco kernel for better battery life?
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I don't use franco kernal. I recommend ElementalX
If u want u can use franco. No problem

CandySix with HellsCore Kernel is also a awesome kit. One of the best ROMs in both (performance and battery) categories. The same about Mark Rom

DU + ElementalX personally given me 4h in use screent DU + Franco has also given me 4h

badmashchamp said:
Use CM13 CAF builds. You never come back to AOSP again. Amazing performance and battery backup.
www.nyyu.tk/cm13
Or use Dirty Unicorns for best battery backup. 6hr SOT
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Wau, 've never saw them, THANKS
Where is the XDA thread of CM CAF builds?
They are bettered than CM 13 CAF Dark ROM?

Riddle5 said:
DU + ElementalX personally given me 4h in use screent DU + Franco has also given me 4h
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May be you r on old Battery. I use New one.
but try Xposed Also hope it will help u out.
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_C4k3_ said:
Wau, 've never saw them, THANKS
Where is the XDA thread of CM CAF builds?
They are bettered than CM 13 CAF Dark ROM?
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Link for CM 13 CAF builds. Use latest.
http://www.nyyu.tk/cm/
Link for Dirty Unicorns. Use Official ones.
https://download.dirtyunicorns.com/hammerhead/
And BTW i don't want to comment on which one is better [Dark CAF vs Nyyu CAF]. Both the developer are awesome in their work. Just Download both and find out which one is better.