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Hi.
I still haven't decided to buy this tablet yet. So I was wondering if the built in player displays subtitles embedded in mkvs, ass or similar files? I normally use moboplayer in order to play my soft-subbed videos on my cellphone since only a few players support this feature.
If this is not supported, is there another video player that supports this but also allows it be floating like the video player?
Thanks!
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fvig2001 said:
Hi.
I still haven't decided to buy this tablet yet. So I was wondering if the built in player displays subtitles embedded in mkvs, ass or similar files? I normally use moboplayer in order to play my soft-subbed videos on my cellphone since only a few players support this feature.
If this is not supported, is there another video player that supports this but also allows it be floating like the video player?
Thanks!
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Oops placed this in the wrong section. Kindly move this topic since I can't find the delete function.
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I believe that the default video player only accepts SRT subtitle file. MKV playback starts off a little bit slow but picks right up at normal speed after a few seconds.
In most of cases, it support srt. I had no problem on most movies, included mkv.
Try a app call BS player,its in the play store, I love it and it will search for the subtitles any movies you are watching..for you.
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I just use MX Player.
neilgoco said:
I just use MX Player.
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same here. Mx player definitive supports subtitles in my mkv files.
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Use DICE player . It supports all subtitles and floating screen , and if subtitles are not synced properly but you don't have choice , this player can slow down subtitles or accelerate them during play .
Hi all-
Has anyone used BS player with ripped TV shows? Don't have the tablet in front of me, but pretty sure the shows are MP4 format and play fine with MX player - no issues at all. I'm trying to use "BS Player Free" as it successfully gets subtitles online for the shows. However, these which play fine in MX, have video and subtitles in BS player, but no audio. I've tried tweaking/changing the settings but I can't figure out a successful one to get it right. And after a few tries, the player begins to crash immediately when launching a show, not playing at all.
Very frustrating. Any suggestions/advice?
Thanks all.
Hi There,
I have never had any trouble with BS Player, altough I prefer the look of MX Player so don't use it that often. Recently they have updated to remove support for Dolby AC3 audio codec as they don't have a license to support it. You may want to search for an older version and install that instead. I am on 1.9.150.
Unfortunately Dolby don't seem interested to license out AC3 to small developers like that do they really don't have a choice but to either remove support, or go undeground with it. A shame really..
Yeah, I'll try that. If the older version doesn't work, or if I can't find that version, anything else I should try??
I'll assume that you've tried all the obvious things such as having the volume turned up, not on mute etc etc. Try a file that you know should work, I think if it's AAC audio it should work, and if that works OK then you know it's not the tablet or any setting in BS Player.
Thankfully AAC is quite popular and normally I would try to avoid anything with AC3 because some players won't support it. When I can't avoid it I keep my trusty copy of BS player handy (and backed up). I'm not sure of any other decent quality player that supports it. Dolby only appear interested in DVD/Blu-ray manufacturers and the likes. If you find another good player that works then let me know!
Oh yes - volume up, not on mute, etc. The same file/show works in MX player, but not in BS player which I'm trying to use for the subtitle feature.
If you haven't knowingly messed with any of the settings then I can't think of a reason it wouldn't work. Double check your preferences to make sure it is using HW decoder, and under playback preferences there are options for what codecs are supported, make sure MPEG4 H264 are checked. I guess that if those are unchecked it wouldn't play the video either. You also have an option during playback to select the audio stream. Normally there would be only one, but perhaps it is not sure which one to select and you need to manually tell it. To find that option open up the menu (top right) select audio, then audio stream. Might be worth a double check. I can't see any other settings that would affect it.
You're not using a bluetooth speaker are you? I have just double checked with mine and it seems to work OK for me over bluetooth.
Cool - will try/check those settings today. Will there be more than 1 audio stream to choose from? I don't think there were, but I'll double check. Audio didn't work with or without BT speaker, but works fine in MX player with or w/out BT speaker. I am using one regularly. But when I test tonight, I'll not use it and only use tablet speaker.
Thanks.
In case you cannot get your videos to work, you should consider Dice Player. Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833704
huy_lonewolf said:
In case you cannot get your videos to work, you should consider Dice Player. Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1833704
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Will try that as well - thanks for the suggestion!
huy_lonewolf said:
\Out of the box, Dice Player does not support those unlicensed codecs, but it supports custom plugins, which allow you play any videos with audio. As long as you know how to add a plugin, you should be able to play anything.
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What? Diceplayer plays the videos just fine without plugins. I've never installed a single plugin and have yet to run into a video it can't play...
I second DicePlayer. All my videos are ripped(ahem... We'll leave it at that.) TV shows as .mkv, .mp4, .avi or .mpg with .srt subtitles.
Regarding the subtitles; You do know you can just get them from podnapisi, right? (there is nothing illegal about that.)
Then just name them identical to the videofile except for the extension, put it in the same folder as the videofile, and pretty much every player plays it automatically...
No, I've never heard of podnapisi. Cool - thanks. I'll try that too.
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Update - so When I got home and checked the ripped shows that work in both MX and BS, and compared it to the ones that only work in MX, I saw the pattern. Using a file manager app, I looked at the properties/details of the files/shows. Worked on both - audio was listed as MP3. Only worked on MX player - audio not listed. I don't know why its not on some shows, but obviously there is audio since it works on MX player. However, I could only get it to work on MX player by switching from HW decoding to SW decoding. Interesting and confusing for a newbie like me. Also, both shows are avi files so I couldn't see a difference there. Still puzzled but I will try Dice player next!!
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So, Dice Player works flawlessly as you guys mentioned. And I added subtitles to the folder and it found those too. Love this forum and all the help you guys offer. Thanks so much!!
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The trick for the subtitles also works for.sub files and all other subtitle formats if you ever run in to them, and they also work on a pc, media player, tv and dvd player this way.
As an added little bonus, diceplayer has a 400% volume boost as well. Which is useful, as the tf700 speakers are not exactly what you call loud.
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ShadowLea said:
What? Diceplayer plays the videos just fine without plugins. I've never installed a single plugin and have yet to run into a video it can't play...
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I am talking about audio codecs. For example, due to licensing issues, Dice Player removed support for DTS audio quite long ago (just like BS Player removed support for Dolby recently), so custom plugin is the only way you can get support for those audio codecs. Videos using those codecs will still play, just that there will be no sound.
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Also, both shows are avi files so I couldn't see a difference there.
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AVI is just a container format - the codecs used for the audio and video streams inside the file make the difference whether you can play it or not.
Wish I knew how to open or modify it.
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I am talking about audio codecs. For example, due to licensing issues, Dice Player removed support for DTS audio quite long ago (just like BS Player removed support for Dolby recently), so custom plugin is the only way you can get support for those audio codecs. Videos using those codecs will still play, just that there will be no sound.
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Ah. That's why I never noticed.
VLC (Beta, but works shockingly well) still has support for both those codecs. It doesn't like 1080 .mkv very much, though.
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Wish I knew how to open or modify it.
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You'd have to re-encode it. If you have an Adobe package (not acrobat), Media Encoder does the trick. Otherwise, try Handbrake. It's open source.
http://www.bsplayer.com/android/source.html
to compile specific custom codec for bsplayer with AC3 and other.
If you want to see how your video is encoded download this for Windows:
http://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo
Then you'll be able to see how the audio was encoded in a video file.
I've got a nvidia shield (not the tablet) and got MX Player working decently (there's a slight off-topic issue I'll describe further down), but my subtitles aren't working properly.
As far as I can tell the font and placements are correct, but the timing is off. Things are disappearing before they're supposed to, some subs aren't showing at all, and effects (like fading) just don't work. Is there anything I can try to fix these issues?
My other problem, which isn't subtitle related, is 10-bit playback. In the sticky, it says tegra devices can use HW, otherwise SW is required. I'm under the impression the shield is tegra, but MX Player asks me to install the ARMv7 NEON codec rather than a tegra one. Whenever I try HW playback, it's got loads of artefacts and just doesn't play properly. Is this a problem with the shield (such as it not being tegra) or should I try a different custom codec?
Cheers!
It's only HW+ that supports Tegra, not HW.
Subs aren't perfect, because libass isn't perfect; there isn't much that can be done until the dev implements whatever new subtitle renderer that he's got planned.
In the interim, try enabling or disabling hardware subtitle acceleration.
Maybe you should try converting subs to srt or ssa or other common format.
Its sub inside a mkv file? You can try ripping it, there is an app called "MKV sub ripper" or something like that in the Play Store.
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It's only HW+ that supports Tegra, not HW.
Subs aren't perfect, because libass isn't perfect; there isn't much that can be done until the dev implements whatever new subtitle renderer that he's got planned.
In the interim, try enabling or disabling hardware subtitle acceleration.
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Ah, my mistake. Should I bother with custom codecs for HW+ (and if so, which one) or is that irrelevant for HW+?
Just tried HW+, still looks pretty bad.
Subs don't seem different with or without hw acceleration, although from what I'm seeing most of the problems come from effects like fading.
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Ah, my mistake. Should I bother with custom codecs for HW+ (and if so, which one) or is that irrelevant for HW+?
Just tried HW+, still looks pretty bad.
Subs don't seem different with or without hw acceleration, although from what I'm seeing most of the problems come from effects like fading.
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If you have read through our 10bit thread carefully you might be aware that you should enable speed up tricks from Settings 》Decoder.
Regarding fade effect, If I am not wrong, MX Player doesn't support all subtitle effects. But, I am not sure about that.
Regarding other subtitle issue, Can you extract & upload the subtitle from mkv file (you canuse mkvextractGUI)? There may be a chances of overlap in timings or caching issue.
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If you have read through our 10bit thread carefully you might be aware that you should enable speed up tricks from Settings 》Decoder.
Regarding fade effect, If I am not wrong, MX Player doesn't support all subtitle effects. But, I am not sure about that.
Regarding other subtitle issue, Can you extract & upload the subtitle from mkv file (you canuse mkvextractGUI)? There may be a chances of overlap in timings or caching issue.
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I read through the thread, but I thought speed up tricks was for the SW decoding? I was trying to use HW+ but it looks really, really bad.
I've attached the subs, the place I kept checking for an issue was at around 21:40. The "sakende" just vanishes early. Also tracking subtitles (there's an example around 7:30) don't work properly, but I'm guessing that's down to the same reason fades don't work.
I'm not sure if the Shield (or any other non-computer device) has enough power for 10bit 1080p yet. Also, I think I remember @bleu8888 saying there was something funny about Tegra HW+ support for the Shield. I don't quite remember the details, so I'll let him comment. Otherwise, you'll just have to stick with SW for now :/
Knowing UTW, it's probably some .ssa typesetting magic that libass can't handle. Most fansubs, especially for their typesetting, make their subs assuming you'll be using xy-vsfilter on your PC. MX Player uses ffmpeg, and therefore the libass library for subs. Sometimes, when typesetting is rendered incorrectly, ie it disappears too fast, it will also affect the main text and make that disappear too.
Needless to say, libass sucks compared to xy-vsfilter. It can't handle all the "magic" that xy-vs can.
If I were you, I'd consider doing a batch operation, and use Aegisub to hardsub the subs into the video. Otherwise there isn't much else that can be done until bleu finishes whatever new subtitle system he has in the works.
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Maybe you should try converting subs to srt or ssa or other common format.
Its sub inside a mkv file? You can try ripping it, there is an app called "MKV sub ripper" or something like that in the Play Store.
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ASS is the 4th version of SSA or SubStation Alpha, it's an acronym for Advanced SubStation alpha. I doubt any player can play SSA but can't play ASS. converting them to srt will make them useless; because ass subtitles have styling and effects like font colour and size, fading and rotating...etc
You can burn the subtitles in the video to make them hard-subbed. Handbrake is easy to use and is perfect if the subtitles are in English (or probably any language that uses Latin alphabet), while mpv must be used with command lines but is perfect for non-Latin subtitles (like Arabic)
ktsamy said:
If you have read through our 10bit thread carefully you might be aware that you should enable speed up tricks from Settings 》Decoder.
Regarding fade effect, If I am not wrong, MX Player doesn't support all subtitle effects. But, I am not sure about that.
Regarding other subtitle issue, Can you extract & upload the subtitle from mkv file (you canuse mkvextractGUI)? There may be a chances of overlap in timings or caching issue.
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I tried a lot of effects with MX on my N7 like fading, rotating, karaoke effects and change in text size and they all worked.
almousawi said:
You can burn the subtitles in the video to make them hard-subbed. Handbrake is easy to use and is perfect if the subtitles are in English (or probably any language that uses Latin alphabet), while mpv must be used with command lines but is perfect for non-Latin subtitles (like Arabic)
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Unfortunately with Handbrake, if you try to burn in karaoke subs, it won't burn in the motion: ie it will burn in the each line of the kfx "half-way through", as if the karaoke is stuck half-flashed for each kfx line; try it with any subs with flashing kfx, and you'll see.
This is why I originally said Aegisub:
CDB-Man said:
If I were you, I'd consider doing a batch operation, and use Aegisub to hardsub the subs into the video. Otherwise there isn't much else that can be done until bleu finishes whatever new subtitle system he has in the works.
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I just purchased MX Player Pro from the Google Play store and have v1.7.40 (neon)installed on my Nexus 6. Since I have a lot of video files with AC3 audio, I installed the custom AC3 codec found here on XDA (automatic restart applied). After that, I configured MX Player Pro to use HW+ decoding and failover to HW decoding.
I can't seem to get videos to play at all. I open a video and it sits there like it's on pause. I've tried multiple video files and get the same result. Most are x.264, one is x.265. I've tried changing it to HW decoding as well as SW decoding but get the same result. I've force stopped the app and tried again after clearing the app data and telling it NOT to use the custom codec but still get the same result. Am I doing something wrong? I really like MX Player Pro but I'm going to need to refund it if I can't get it to work.
EDIT: On some videos that I start, if I manually fast forward, I don't see any video at all. On the x.265 video, I can manually fast forward and see the video frame of where it's at in the timeline but it just never plays.
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On a side note, after launching MX Player Pro for the first time, I was not prompted to install the codec package so I installed it manually.
Thanks so much to anyone who takes the time to read this and/or assist with this matter.
Well, assuming by "codec package" you mean the ARMv7 Codec package on the Play Store, you don't need these codec packages by default. On the contrary, the fact that you installed the custom codec may be what's causing the playback issue.
The Custom Codec on XDA here is purely for AC3 and DTS audio compatibility, and generally shouldn't affect video playback.
To be certain, are you using the stock Nexus 6 ROM? If yes then which build in particular?
Also, if you could collect an error log after it freezes, that would help.
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@phoney_stuff
H/W+ may cause issues with certain videos. I don't recommend it to use it as default.
Just try to start the video in S/W decoder (log press the video & from menu > play using > SW decoder.)
Don't resume if it asks.
Let me know the results.
If you still have issues, kindly collect the logs immediately after playing the video & upload here.
@CDB-Man
As you know Custom codec is same as the inbuilt ffmpeg which comes with mx player itself. But, ac3 & dts support is enabled. So, it may not be the issue.
Both H/W+ & S/W decoders use ffmpeg. If the issue is there in S/W it might be an issue related to ffmpeg itself.
Gentlemen,
Thanks for the reply!
I'm running stock Android 5.1.1 on a non-rooted device, latest version, screenshot attached.
My first attempt was without the codec that's is available on the Play store, but with the custom AC3 codec. When that failed, I installed the codec from the Play store and got the same result. Then I tried it again after removing the custom AC3 codec (leaving the codec available from the Play store in place) and, again, got the same result. In a past experience of playing videos in MX Player with AC3 audio without the custom codec, the video would play without audio which is what I was hoping to achieve as a troubleshooting step (to see if the custom codec was causing a problem).
Currently, I have MX Player Pro installed with the codec that is available on the Play store as well as the custom codec to play AC3 audio. This is the config which we're basing our tests on as of now. Please let me know if I should remove the codec that I downloaded from the Play store. Also, I deleted the x.265 video that I mentioned in my previous post and obtained another video encoded in x.264. Regardless of this, it's important to note that I get the same result with ANY video I attempt to play. I'm attaching my loss for your review as requested. In this test, I have HW+ fully disabled in settings and SW decoding fully enabled. I also choose to start the video from the beginning rather than resume. Again, thanks so much for the help. Please let me know if there is anything else I can provide to help troubleshoot this issue.
@phoney_stuff
The issue is not with MX Player.
MX Player is not getting audio focus.
Looks like some other app is trying to keep the audio focus. That's why mx player is not playing any video.
Goto Settings > Player & Disable "Play Alone"
Then try again.
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If you disable the option "Play Alone" MX Player will keeps on playing the video regardless of the status. For e.g it won't pause if you receive a call. So, best solution is that find the app that is stealing the audio focus & uninstall it or if there is any particular Settings in that app kindly adjust it.
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@ktsamy
That did the trick, or it could be that I'm not currently using the phone that did the trick.... or both. VIC works while I'm on the phone so I guess I was expecting MX Player to do the same.
I'm going to leave Play Alone disabled since I like the option of playing audio our video when I'm on the phone.
Would it be too much for me to request an feature (toggle-able) to have MX Player to pause when it loses audio focus?
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As you know Custom codec is same as the inbuilt ffmpeg which comes with mx player itself. But, ac3 & dts support is enabled. So, it may not be the issue.
Both H/W+ & S/W decoders use ffmpeg. If the issue is there in S/W it might be an issue related to ffmpeg itself.
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Hmm yeah, which is what I meant by:
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The Custom Codec on XDA here is purely for AC3 and DTS audio compatibility, and generally shouldn't affect video playback
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As in, using your version shouldn't in and of itself cause playback issues! As in, the issue is likely not caused by the fact that you are using the custom codec, but probably something else!
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Would it be too much for me to request an feature (toggle-able) to have MX Player to pause when it loses audio focus?
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Enabling "Play Alone" does precisely just that? As in, make MX stop playing when it loses audio focus if another app plays...
@CDB-Man enabling Play Alone also prevents it from playing when it doesn't have a audio focus to begin with.
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@CDB-Man enabling Play Alone also prevents it from playing when it doesn't have a audio focus to begin with.
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This is what the issue is.
Just find out the app that steals/keeps audio focus. Disable it or uninstall it.
You can now play even when "Play Alone" is enabled.
This is used to pause MXPlayer when you loose audio focus (like call or notification or alarm or Playback from another player). That's why it's enabled by default.
It's not the fault of MX Player.
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Thanks be to you, I found the app that's keeping audio focus is the phone. I like the feature of Play Alone that pauses MX Player when it loses audio focus. However, I it would also be nice if MX Player allowed me to play audio our video) while I'm currently in a call without having to toggle Play Alone on/off all of the time.
Hi
This thing has been bugging me for a while, and just now I decided to gather enough info to be able to describe the issue properly.
The effect of the issue is that all the media i play back from my Serviio DLNA server on MX Player on my Android TV is named "ORIGINAL" as far as MX Player is considered — at least with regards to subtitles. If I pause playback, the top left corner will display the actual filename, e.g. "My Cool Video.mkv," but MX Player will suggest "ORIGINAL" as title when searching for online subtitles. I then have to manually correct the title to whatever the correct one is, and search for it. It will then download those subtitles as "ORIGINAL.srt," and play them back correctly.
However, as the next video that I play back is also seen by MX Player as having the name "ORIGINAL," it'll load those same subtitles download before that now don't match and that's no fun. Fetching correct subtitles online will overwrite the previous subtitles, etc.
I suspected the issue might be with how Serviio presents the media files, and surely enough, I can see that DLNA URLs are all of the form http://192.168.7.100:8895/resource/40385/MEDIA_ITEM/MATROSKA-0/ORIGINAL.
But, clearly, MX Player has access to more information than this, seeing as how it displays the actual filename in its UI. Am I wrong in assuming this is a problem on MX Player's end?
BTW, this combo of UPnPlay and MX Player on Android TV is friggin' awesome. Beats Kodi every day, MX Player is fantastic!
Cheers,
Daniel