So it seems i have inherited a surface rt 1516. It seems to be running windows 8.1 rt and thats about it. Is there anyway to make this into a more useable tablet? any progress on getting android or ubuntu or something else running on it? thanks
None as far as I'm aware. But feel free to look around. I could be wrong
what is this about jail breaking? It seems to allow something else to be run on it? I saw that it only works on 8.0 but i cant seem to the find the image to downgrade it
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Hello.
Is it possible? I mean, the Windows 8 compatible with ARM processors has been launched, well, I have a gingerbread tablet (or an big smarthphone) and I'm asking if it is possible, I think yes, but if yes, how it will be? Like on PCs, "just" install? Or like the android way: Putting right libs and bla bla bla?
Actually it is not possible. Win RT only sold with hardware. Hardware needs UEFI secure boot to run win8 rt.
Maybe some day there will be a workaround... but I won't count on that.
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Not yet
We are not yet ready for that kind of dual booting yet. Only Oem's do right now. Windows 8 aint even out yet
Hello Everybody
After getting used to the limited possibilities on the windows RT I would love to try something new. Since I have seen some laptops with Chrome OS I thought it would be interesting to try something new.
Regarding the hardware Chrome OS should absolutely be no problem to boot on a Surface 2 but I can't find the option to boot or even install another OS on the Surface. I know that Microsoft did everything to complicate our live but is there really no option?
Has anyone tried it so far or an advice how it might should work? It would be nice to have a new OS on the Surface. This would really revive my Surface.
Thanks in advance
paescheh
paescheh said:
Hello Everybody
After getting used to the limited possibilities on the windows RT I would love to try something new. Since I have seen some laptops with Chrome OS I thought it would be interesting to try something new.
Regarding the hardware Chrome OS should absolutely be no problem to boot on a Surface 2 but I can't find the option to boot or even install another OS on the Surface. I know that Microsoft did everything to complicate our live but is there really no option?
Has anyone tried it so far or an advice how it might should work? It would be nice to have a new OS on the Surface. This would really revive my Surface.
Thanks in advance
paescheh
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Locked bootloader.
No possible hope either.
Well, there is a way to bypass the locked boot loader, but that will void the warranty and the surface 2 runs on an ARM proseccor, not x32 or x64, and I don't think its possible to install Chrome OS due to the fact that Google does not have an ARM version of Chrome OS, so I don't think so.
zjjpp said:
Well, there is a way to bypass the locked boot loader, but that will void the warranty and the surface 2 runs on an ARM proseccor, not x32 or x64, and I don't think its possible to install Chrome OS due to the fact that Google does not have an ARM version of Chrome OS, so I don't think so.
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Sorry, but you are incorrect in that Chrome OS does have both x86 and ARM versions of the OS. Do a quick search on Amazon and you'll find a mix of both processors in the different models available.
Do you have a link or source about how to bypass the locked boot loader? Last I've heard it is not possible. And even if it was, I doubt Chrome OS would be an viable option... more likely there would be a linux distribution updated to run on it. But who knows for sure unless we can get said bootloader unlocked in the first place.
Any update to this idea? I saw Neverware and CloudReady have versions of Chrome OS ready to go.
Looking for an update
Is there any update to this? Still looking to root Windows RT
Would be nice to resurrect my Surface RT with Chrome OS. Any update on this?
Hi,
I'm pretty sure you all heard of "Project Astoria" aka Android on Windows (AOW). That Project is pretty much as dead as Windows RT is. But fortunately AOW is an ARM compiled project. So i wanted to ask, how hard do you guys think is it to port it to Windows RT?
AOW itself is pretty much nothing more than a service running on Windows. I'm sure it's not that hard to run it, but I would think adding apps (to the startscreen) and launching them is way more complicated?!
Would be interesting to hear some thoughts about that.
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Hi,
I'm pretty sure you all heard of "Project Astoria" aka Android on Windows (AOW). That Project is pretty much as dead as Windows RT is. But fortunately AOW is an ARM compiled project. So i wanted to ask, how hard do you guys think is it to port it to Windows RT?
AOW itself is pretty much nothing more than a service running on Windows. I'm sure it's not that hard to run it, but I would think adding apps (to the startscreen) and launching them is way more complicated?!
Would be interesting to hear some thoughts about that.
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If I'm looking at the right thing, AOW is for windows phone. To get it to work (even if we could port it to RT) we'd need to recompile all the libraries necessary, some of which are WP8 specific. It would be simpler to just code our own android emulator for RT and running apps that way. If we go that far though, we may as well go all the way and port VirtualBox to get x86 emulation as well.
Insignificant said:
Hi,
I'm pretty sure you all heard of "Project Astoria" aka Android on Windows (AOW). That Project is pretty much as dead as Windows RT is. But fortunately AOW is an ARM compiled project. So i wanted to ask, how hard do you guys think is it to port it to Windows RT?
AOW itself is pretty much nothing more than a service running on Windows. I'm sure it's not that hard to run it, but I would think adding apps (to the startscreen) and launching them is way more complicated?!
Would be interesting to hear some thoughts about that.
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Trivial if you can get the Win10 kernel running with RT8.1 userspace. Will crash otherwise without flipping two bytes in the kernel (ARM state support instead of only Thumb2) and that is blocked by Secure Boot.
Where would somebody get an image for Windows 10 Mobile if they wanted to try to install it on the Shield? Been curious about this, and not a fan of Android as much as I thought, but don't like Apple.
Nowhere. Someone would had to make a ROM with Windows 10 and I don't think that there were any ports of Windows on ARM for anything other than HTC HD2 few years ago.
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Where would somebody get an image for Windows 10 Mobile if they wanted to try to install it on the Shield? Been curious about this, and not a fan of Android as much as I thought, but don't like Apple.
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Not possible. Anyway Windows 10 Mobile is dead and boring to use compared to Android.
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Where would somebody get an image for Windows 10 Mobile if they wanted to try to install it on the Shield?
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Much too difficult and complex. It would require not only porting Win10, but also the drivers/firmware to make it work with the Shield's specific hardware. Which don't exist, so you would have to do that from scratch? Getting it to work would probably take hundreds of hours, if ever. Plus, Windows is closed source, so it's probably not even legal to port it.
Much easier to just buy a WIn10 device, if that is what you want.
So I've gotten to use the ported apps via jailbreaking my Surface RT. But one thing I haven't seen anyone do yet is put a true X86 emulator out. Has anyone looked into just making a full X86 emulator (maybe based around Wine since it works on ARM platforms both ARM and ARM64) metro app and putting it on the Windows 8.1 Store? I mean I can't imagine Microsoft would have a problem with that, especially since we'd be using open source software and it would be an app not even a what we have been doing in the past. I mean even if we made an app that required jailbreaking, that would be fantastic. In that case, we could use the sideloader app that was ported over. Also, what is happening with Windows Mobile 8.1 or even 10 on Windows RT 8.1 devices? Has anyone besides Black_blob got it working on their RT device? And if so, could someone post a tutorial of it? I'm hoping that this new thread will help clear up some of my own questions along with anyone else. I get that Microsoft killed off RT and have no plans to revive it (cough cough Windows 10S or Windows 10 on ARM). I know that I am assuming a lot by saying we could just port Wine over, as I have never created or ported anything in my life. I have a basic understanding of what goes into it. But I would be willing to do all I can to help bring something like an app emulator to life. I own 2 Surface RT's and I'm willing to do experiments with them.