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Moto G 2nd Gen 4G dual SIM available?

Looking at Moto G 2nd Gen (5" version). Here in UK is available as a 4G version, or as a dual SIM version but this is only 3G.
Is there a 4G dual SIM 2nd Gen available anywhere? If so why isn't it available in UK?
I want a dual SIM as I'll use it abroad, and would be perfect to use with a 3 UK SIM for the "feel at home" offer where you can use unlimited data abroad in certain countries.
If not I'll have to just get the 3G version, but wondering why Motorola either don't do a 4G dual SIM and/or why not available in UK.
Thanks

There's no 4G Dual Sim version anywhere.

gargsamanyou said:
There's no 4G Dual Sim version anywhere.
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Ah thought I'd seen on wiki that there was, maybe mistaken then...
Why? Is it a technical issue? Do you think one will come soon?
Thanks

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2015
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59515541&postcount=2

Confused now then! Is there or isn't there!?!

MrMrMr111 said:
Ah thought I'd seen on wiki that there was, maybe mistaken then...
Why? Is it a technical issue? Do you think one will come soon?
Thanks
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It's upto Motorola.They didn't want to make such variant and so they haven't made it.

XT1072 - Retail UK / EU - Single-SIM - 8GB
XT1077 - Retail China - CDMA2000 - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB
XT1078 - Retail Brazil - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB
XT1079 - Retail China - TD-SCDMA - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB​Factory firmware images exist for these models. Google the model numbers and you will see Dual-SIM is for sale in Brazil and China.

lost101 said:
XT1072 - Retail UK / EU - Single-SIM - 8GB
XT1077 - Retail China - CDMA2000 - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB
XT1078 - Retail Brazil - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB
XT1079 - Retail China - TD-SCDMA - Dual-SIM - 8GB / 16GB​Factory firmware images exist for these models. Google the model numbers and you will see Dual-SIM is for sale in Brazil and China.
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Unsure what all the numbers/letters mean, are they 4G 2nd Gen dual SIM?
gargsamanyou said:
It's upto Motorola.They didn't want to make such variant and so they haven't made it.
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True they can do what they want, but UK 4G is getting better now, so strange that don't offer it, too me people will be out of, and look elsewhere if the phone is limited to 3G in today's market

MrMrMr111 said:
Unsure what all the numbers/letters mean, are they 4G 2nd Gen dual SIM?
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All of those models are Moto G 4G 2nd Gen.

lost101 said:
All of those models are Moto G 4G 2nd Gen.
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Any of them 4G dual SIM though?

MrMrMr111 said:
Any of them 4G dual SIM though?
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I mention four different models above. Three out of the four are Dual-SIM. It is only the European version that is Single-SIM.

lost101 said:
I mention four different models above. Three out of the four are Dual-SIM. It is only the European version that is Single-SIM.
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Yeh I seen that, but unsure of those listed have 4G or not as standard

MrMrMr111 said:
Yeh I seen that, but unsure of those listed have 4G or not as standard
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They are all definitely 4G / LTE. Those are the model numbers for the Moto G (2015) 4G / LTE phone.

So out is possible, so why on earth do us in UK only have a 3G dual SIM version? Are the band's not compatible to UK or something?

MrMrMr111 said:
So out is possible, so why on earth do us in UK only have a 3G dual SIM version? Are the band's not compatible to UK or something?
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Model no. XT1072 is being sold in the UK. That model is a Moto G (2015) 4G and is compatible with UK 4G.

lost101 said:
Model no. XT1072 is being sold in the UK. That model is a Moto G (2015) 4G and is compatible with UK 4G.
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Dual SIM 4G, where sold in UK please.

MrMrMr111 said:
Dual SIM 4G, where sold in UK please.
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I've said twice already; the only version being sold by retailers in UK / Europe is Single-SIM. Maybe that will change in the near future, or maybe you can get the Dual-SIM version through an importer on Amazon.
Here is a UK retailer selling XT1072 (Single-SIM 4G)
http://www.tesco.com/direct/motorol...-black/562-4468.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=562-4468

Sorry for confusion. Yes I know that the 4G single SIM is available in UK, Amazon UK etc, I specifically now want dual SIM though.
As it's a backup and holiday phone, having dual SIM is ideal. I wanted, for future proofing, a 4G dual SIM.
If can't get a 4G dual SIM, I'd rather get a 3G dual SIM, just if the 4G dual SIM was coming, officially to UKxbox I'd wait a bit.
Thanks

Dual SIM

Does it exist DUAL SIM?
I can't find it in Italy..

First, this should be in Q&A.
Second, on google try searching for an SM-G920FD, it is the dual sim international S6, for Europe.

Rekan_ said:
First, this should be in Q&A.
Second, on google try searching for an SM-G920FD, it is the dual sim international S6, for Europe.
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As far as I know there is only the 920FD (flat no edge). Thats what I have and got the Europe frequency one via a UAE based ecommerce site. Works well for me and most custom roms work.

But can I find/buy it in Italy?

Dual SIM in both S7 and S7 Edge by default?

Hi, I've seen the hybrid microSD + dualsim adaptor that may have the S7 by default, but only in certain countries.
I have currently an S6 Duos (regular version, I didn't find the Edge in dual sim).
Do you think that would be real?

the second slot is either for a microsd card or sim card

avatar_ro said:
the second slot is either for a microsd card or sim card
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but it's only on some markets, which is what he is asking

reg-sux said:
but it's only on some markets, which is what he is asking
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are you sure? I was refering to Europe, as far as I see in EU it will be like this

The European and U.S. variants don't have dual sim; dual sim requires to use two baseband chips, which is adds an additional cost to the manufacturer, therefore you can guess Samsung will only implement it on markets with high demands for such products (China, India...)

mathieulh said:
The European and U.S. variants don't have dual sim; dual sim requires to use two baseband chips, which is adds an additional cost to the manufacturer, therefore you can guess Samsung will only implement it on markets with high demands for such products (China, India...)
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The ones offered in Belgium on pre-order seem to have Dual-SIM...

The SM-G930F and SM-G935F which are, respectively, the Galaxy S7 and S7 edge for the European market, are not dual sim.

So what the well is the hybrid SIM and microSD slot?
Ps: Huawei P8 lite also have this with only one imei and support 2 sim cards...

nfribeiro said:
So what the well is the hybrid SIM and microSD slot?
Ps: Huawei P8 lite also have this with only one imei and support 2 sim cards...
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They just use the same sim tray worldwide to minimise costs.
Because they use a hybrid SIM tray does not mean your handset supports more than one sim card.

avatar_ro said:
the second slot is either for a microsd card or sim card
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If you assume the physical connectors for a second SIM is in the tray of the SIM/SD slot of all major versions.
But there was a discussion if only the Exynos version that aims at the Asian market will get also the connectors for the second SIM.
From experience Samsung often build a range of phones and sells them under the same model no. That leads to an uncertainty until the last minute.
In Hong Kong they usually first sell the regular international one (F) and after a while also the (mainland China targeting) Dual SIM version (D or whatever).
If physically a second SIM card is connected over the small tray... it still needs to be managed by the OS. I am curious to see if all versions of Samsungs OS will have that capability.

ixomon said:
If you assume the physical connectors for a second SIM is in the tray of the SIM/SD slot of all major versions.
But there was a discussion if only the Exynos version that aims at the Asian market will get also the connectors for the second SIM.
From experience Samsung often build a range of phones and sells them under the same model no. That leads to an uncertainty until the last minute.
In Hong Kong they usually first sell the regular international one (F) and after a while also the (mainland China targeting) Dual SIM version (D or whatever).
If physically a second SIM card is connected over the small tray... it still needs to be managed by the OS. I am curious to see if all versions of Samsungs OS will have that capability.
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maybe you are right, we shall see

this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/user-manual-samsung-galaxy-s7edge-t3321948 then page 133 of the hand book shows all about the sim draw

i don´t get it, should i be able to enable the dual sim in all the variants (maybe changing the sim trail) or some models will support it and others don´t?

ixomon said:
If you assume the physical connectors for a second SIM is in the tray of the SIM/SD slot of all major versions.
But there was a discussion if only the Exynos version that aims at the Asian market will get also the connectors for the second SIM.
From experience Samsung often build a range of phones and sells them under the same model no. That leads to an uncertainty until the last minute.
In Hong Kong they usually first sell the regular international one (F) and after a while also the (mainland China targeting) Dual SIM version (D or whatever).
If physically a second SIM card is connected over the small tray... it still needs to be managed by the OS. I am curious to see if all versions of Samsungs OS will have that capability.
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I think its only
Model numbers SM 9350 and SM 9300 for China and HK
Model numbers SM 935FD and SM 930FD for SE Asia

Well i guess dual sim only for exynos version..

Is it hardware or software related? I mean, in latter case, one could use a custom ROM in order to enable dual SIM compatibility.

daede86 said:
i don´t get it, should i be able to enable the dual sim in all the variants (maybe changing the sim trail) or some models will support it and others don´t?
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Because of how the tray looks on the S7 people were hoping it's already ready to go for Dual SIM, but it isn't S7 manual explains there's a SIM tray that supports 1 SIM + 1 micro SD card, and then there's a SIM tray that supports 1 SIM + 1 SIM or micro SD card (meaning you either have two SIMs in or 1 SIM and 1 micro SD, can't use 3 of them at the same time). But as of right now Europe and US are getting the 1 SIM only phones, as of right now Dual SIM isn't available. Maybe if you dig you could find it on some Asian shop which is usually where they get Dual SIM phones, maybe India too?

I have a dual sim S7, other than having dual sim, what's the difference between dual sim and not dual sim S7?

Any update on this? I am about to buy an s7 edge but definitely not willing to shell out a ~100EUR more for the DUOS model. (I am in Europe, getting the Exynos version won't be a problem)

Dual sim card need full network band. This is only can be achieved by Qualcomm. Qualcomm has the patent of cdma standard
So dual sim need supported from Hardware .Exynos version often sells in Europe. So Samsung do not need to worry cdma or another standard. Europe use WCDMA.

Where to buy Note 20 Ultra Snapdragon 865+?

Hi, I live in europe and here is only the exynos version, where to buy the snapdragon version to be compatible with our networks? Wonda Mobile?

I am also interested by this...

Me too. Here in Uruguay they only import the Exynos versions... and we all now how bad they are.

maxpaynezm said:
Hi, I live in europe and here is only the exynos version, where to buy the snapdragon version to be compatible with our networks? Wonda Mobile?
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I ordered Galaxy Note20 Ultra 5G 512GB BLACK (Unlocked) SM-N986UZKFXAA -- can't use it, no dual SIM, going up for sale as soon as it arrives.. PM if interested.

I need dual sim

maxpaynezm said:
I need dual sim
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Historically the Snapdragon version NEVER supports Dual-Sim, sad but true

That's not true, s20 ultra Hongkong version is snapdragon with dual sim

maxpaynezm said:
That's not true, s20 ultra Hongkong version is snapdragon with dual sim
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Doesn't support all the bands needed in some places..........well, not for the US anyhow, not sure about where you are.

In Slovakia, support all band for me

maxpaynezm said:
In Slovakia, support all band for me
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Was chatting with support to get a different person to confirm US version is single sim, and it is. Asked him about the HK version, said it would be single sim as well...........but here's to hoping he's wrong on both counts.

As far as I know, there is a difference between the US model and the HK model. For the European networks, the HK model works better.
The Note 20 Ultra no longer has two physical sim slots. If you want a double sim then you need a Sim + eSim.

a think only snapdragon version is in US , HK will by exynos this time

maxpaynezm said:
a think only snapdragon version is in US , HK will by exynos this time
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As far as i know there will be two asia market version of snapdragon SM-N986N (South Korea) with Snapdragon and SM-N9860 (China, HK) and now am i thinking which version to buy.... Wondamobile will have probably N9860 version but anyone know what is the difference between N986N version?

Different is bloatware and network bands for me is better HK version, hope snapdragon will be there

maxpaynezm said:
Different is bloatware and network bands for me is better HK version, hope snapdragon will be there
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For Korea version is confirmed Snapdragon, but also i think for HK version. On other hand India and Europe gets Exynos 990. Probably in 10 days will be available on wondamobile in buy it there HK version. Can't wait!

maxpaynezm said:
a think only snapdragon version is in US , HK will by exynos this time
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where did you get that information about HK being exynos? its been snapdragon for years...please put up a link to the information
thanks

Considering the S20 Ultra, the HK or China unlocked versions SM-N9860 will be the best bet.

Guys I live in Europe (Greece) and I wanna buy the snapdragon version but I'm not sure from where. Is wondamobile safe? And if yes then which version is the best to buy? I don't care about dual sim. And here in Greece we don't even have 5G yet.
Plus one more question. In my country if you preorder note 20 ultra before 20th of August you get buds live for free. Does that work in other countries too?

Dual SIM

Anyone know if N20 Ultra will have dual SIM in States? I've searched but couldn't find anything solid on it.

ANy update fellas? Are they gonna release OTA to add eSIM functionality? I am regretting buying this 1300 bucks toy now.

I want to know this too, would pull the trigger right now but can't find it. Official site says there are single and dual sim models, but when you go to checkout doesn't say what you're getting!
https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note20/specs/
Just chatted with support, FWIW, he said only the Global version has dual-sim, not the US version.

LiquidHonesty said:
I want to know this too, would pull the trigger right now but can't find it. Official site says there are single and dual sim models, but when you go to checkout doesn't say what you're getting!
https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note20/specs/
Just chatted with support, FWIW, he said only the Global version has dual-sim, not the US version.
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Well that's a bummer.. I guess it's going on swappa or offerup, still making money.

So the USA model won’t even be dual sim EG one physical sim and one e-sim? [emoji23]

Nope, yet Apple has had it for two years!

Dual sim= Sim+ eSim
Exynos

just like the s20 ultra it isnt clear at all. there does seem to exist a 'B' model and an 'F' model, some are dual sim, some are LTE only. its hard to find exactly the right one. In the Note 10 the 'F' model didnt have band 30. But on the LTE only s20 (no 5G) there is band 30. But on the 5G model there isnt band 30. Frustrating if you use AT&T
I think the dual sim model of the Note 20 ultra is sm-n986b. its not clear if its dual sim or sim plus e-sim.
The US models are historically NOT dual sim on nOte 10 and s20.

In Europe is dual sim = sim + sim or you can use sim + esim + SD card on ultra

If you look at the USA web site...

Elastep said:
If you look at the USA web site...
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Thanks, do you have a link to that page? When I go to Note 20 Ultra specs on Samsung's site, it only shows carrier, color and memory.

Elastep said:
If you look at the USA web site...
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Omg, i always have to buy the HK versions of Samsung devices because they Are Snapdragon+Dual Sim, but if (FINALLY) Samsung make USA model version Dual Sim too, that means (at least for me) pay less. Did you have the link? i want to check so i can make the pre-order

rafaelox24 said:
Omg, i always have to buy the HK versions of Samsung devices because they Are Snapdragon+Dual Sim, but if (FINALLY) Samsung make USA model version Dual Sim too, that means (at least for me) pay less. Did you have the link? i want to check so i can make the pre-order
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https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note20/specs/

Actually the main part is in that 21 22 notes. I meant to say that most likely No virtual sim/dual Sim for ??

kdeezy said:
https://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/galaxy-note20/specs/
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That link is for "global" version and it says ESIM support is dependent on country/carrier. Samsung has disabled ESIM specifically for US for some odd reason. They promised S20 will have ESIM with a software update but that did not happen as of yet, we can only hope their $1500 flagship N20 Ultra supports this but as of now there is no mention of it.

VICosPhi said:
That link is for "global" version and it says ESIM support is dependent on country/carrier. Samsung has disabled ESIM specifically for US for some odd reason. They promised S20 will have ESIM with a software update but that did not happen as of yet, we can only hope their $1500 flagship N20 Ultra supports this but as of now there is no mention of it.
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Don't hold your breath!

Has anyone used one of the international Dual-SIM unlocked models recently? I'm guessing they still don't have the ability to do VOLTE and Wifi Calling because they don't have the US CSCs available. I have the US unlocked Note 10+ and appreciate how smooth the carrier swap process is, but like everyone else I'd prefer to just leave a couple of SIMs in at the same time.

donpedronogal said:
Has anyone used one of the international Dual-SIM unlocked models recently? I'm guessing they still don't have the ability to do VOLTE and Wifi Calling because they don't have the US CSCs available. I have the US unlocked Note 10+ and appreciate how smooth the carrier swap process is, but like everyone else I'd prefer to just leave a couple of SIMs in at the same time.
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It depends on the carrier, but you will get WiFi calling and VoLTE on US Tmobile if using Exynos dual sim model. It lacks the important bands though like band 66, band 71 and some 5G bands

From what Ive seen and reading - no Dual Sim in North America ( same like S20 ) -which means Physical + Esim, having just Esim means phone w/o a physical sim and thats it, but not work in conjuction
Users experience for S20
https://www.reddit.com/r/Galaxy_S20...sertext&utm_name=telus&utm_content=t1_g188evc

Anyone see this?
https://www.androidcentral.com/does-samsung-galaxy-note-20-support-dual-sim
It acts like the regular Snapdragon version will support Dual Sim???? I won't be able to test it out until Monday so curious if anyone else has tried.

I have an ATT SD variant that lists 2 IMEIs on the box, however, it appears the eSim functionality has been disabled. there's another thread on the eSim where this is being discussed as well.