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Currently, I fall on the WinMo side of the coin.
All my email is hosted by Google Apps, and is pushed to my WinMo device by GoogleApps using the MS Activesync (MS Exchange Server) protocol.
If I move onto an ANDROID device, what mechanisms are available to me, to have 'always on' push-email? Will my GoogleApps account have to MS ActiveSync to my Google Powered phone? Seems a bit weird. I know there are some 'constant connected' implementations of IMAP too, but apparently they're particularly resource / data hungry.
Can anyone advise - I'm likely to buy my first Android phone quite soon.
The default gmail application does push. There are also several options and settings for push or timed queries for other mail services, exchange or otherwise through market applications or the stock email application.
Android phones usually have 2 mail apps. One for gmail which automatically pushes mail to the app and works absolutely brilliantly. The second is for all other types of mail accounts eg pop, Imap, and exchange ActiveSync. This can be scheduled or set to push under ActiveSync.
Thanks folks, for all the input.
This sounds like it would actually work better for me, as it seems I'd be able to have instant push email through the gmail app, for my google-apps domain, and the second mail client could be pushed email directly from an exchange server.
Wonder how it'll handle contacts from both!
I think all that remains now, is do I get the HTC Desire, or the SE Xperia X10,
and that's a question out of scope for this thread, I think.
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
I actually switched from having a hosted MSexchange account to a Googleapps GMail acct, and push works great.
n0ahg said:
Has anyone tried setting up gmail as an activesync account so all email will be in one app? I've tried different things for the username and domain and can't get it to connect.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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according to googleapps, username is your FULL email address - [email protected] or [email protected]. domain should be blank. the 'Exchange' server is m.google.com. The option for using security should be selected.
Having never laid hands on Android, I can't tell you how to input these; but this is what I use on WinMo, and on my Nokia with the MailForExchange client.
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The email app on android doesn't have a seperate domain box and keeps putting a '\' on the front of the '<mail name>@gmail.com' :-(
I know this is some sort of thread necromancy but I have a question regarding setting up google mail while also using the standard google account for synchronisation.
Both methods offer also synchronisation of contacts and calendars. While having both calendar synchronisation options active it will clone your entries. What about the contact synchronisation? It seems reasonable to have both options active as adding a new contact over the email app (which will use the exchange active sync) would synchronise with the google contacts which in turn should fill up your contacts handbook. Or is it obsolete as the stock email app will already add the contact to your google account even using seemingly another account?
I would appreciate any attempts to clear this confusion
Nevermind. Found it out myself: just stay with the google account, the stock email app takes it info from there and does integrate it.
issue im facing on the GMail app that comes built in with the OS, I cannot move emails to a specific folder. Any overcome ?
Some of this needs to be done from a PC......
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
ratta77 said:
well moving to a folder is a basic function, and being a google phone i feel the GMAIL app is lacking in quite alot of basic needs, not mentioning the UI.
Been an iphone user, and GMAIL was awesome on iphone. Can say, gmail on iphone mail app been an awesome experience. The push mail is quite similiar to BlackBerry on iphone. Quite disappointed on my email experience with android.
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Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
Hi guys,
For all those who are looking for having your private domain mails pushed to your phone, without having an Exchange setup, GMAIL does it!
Here is a step by step guide for adding POP/IMAP mail accounts into your GMAIL account and therefore getting the mails pushed to your phone.
Only thing is that the mails take around 15-20 minutes to come through, as GMAIL fetches your POP/IMAP mails into its server every 15 minutes.
http://www.androidcentral.com/using-gmail-your-own-personal-push-mail-server
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Next alternative is using SEVEN MAIL! this is a brilliant app, very very easy to setup, and gives you mails in 5-10 minutes max!
here is the page where they have a direct download link for the SEVEN app
http://techie-buzz.com/mobile-news/seven-a-push-email-client-released-on-android-2-1.html
and above all, like Gmail, its also FREE!
Airosa said:
Same here.
With 4 email accounts, i feel like the only one that works correctly with push is Gmail.
Other emails have to be set through independent apps, if available, which is very annoying.
The native email app doesn't have a push option, draining battery every time it goes fetch.
Android is a powerhouse.
There's gotta be a solution for this.
I would like emails on the same app, and push.
I need a phone for business and the best email phone is still the Blackberry.
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I have to agree with you. How could google let us down? the email app is crap.... I miss iphone email client but i hate APPLE
Problem push mail motorola Razr
Hello i just got my razr 3 days ago is running 2.3.5 I just notice that i dont get my emails on time i have to keep refreshing every-time i happen either with gmail app nor email app i try to modify the settings but is not too much to set i try to delete the gmail update and still the same problem, i have also a blackberry and the emails goes straight away to my blackberry and after 30 or 40 to my razr which is very annoying i want to get rid of blackberry, Somebody knows how to fix it? thanks
i moved from windows mobile to android just about a month ago, and to be honest android is substantially better in every way possible, been loving it
now the only thing that has really bothered me is that the default email app from android is a piece of crap... unless you use gmail of course because gmail only has labels and it flushes all your email to a single folder.
i use hotmail and i receive many emails so i do need to use the folders, and i have to have them organized as such in my phone. windows mobile used arcsoft to organize the folders, and it worked great, but i haven't found a similar alternative on android or the market, does anyone know of one?
i even have an iTouch and there is an application in the iOS market that will arrange your emails into folders like they are found in my e-mail...
any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks guys!
Hotmail is POP only. You could have your gmail account fetch your email from hotmail and then use gmail's label system to organize your mail.
If hotmail allows you to set a forward you could get an email account that supports IMap and then you will have folder support.
I had this same problem, it was initially very hard for me to go from WinMo to Android for this reason (also, no spell check? WTF google). There is a mail app out there that supports push Hotmail (like WinMo) somehow. I believe it is called Seven or something along those lines....in beta and not in the Market.
I ended up just forwarding my Hotmail account to my Gmail one and using that. Hard to get used to, but certainly worth it for push support. You can also import all your messages in your hotmail account into your gmail archives (stored under a different label) through the gmail settings. Finally, you can toggle gmail to use your hotmail account as your return address if that's something important to you for whatever reason.
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Hey folks,
I'm sorry this is probably a n00b question but I would like to sync my emails from my PC with my phone.
On the PC I use thunderbird to download all emails (got like 6 email accounts) to the pc and delete them from the server immidiately. (I've had accounts beeing hacked in the past because I left password emails etc in my inbox, so I started to delete them from server instead of leaving them on for more security - so I can't just "download them again" from the phone - I will need to sync the phone with the data from the PC. I could switch my email client program off course if thats needed, but I rather not let the messages lay somewhere online.
Can someone maybe explain to me how that would work or give me a link or smth?
It would be perfect if it would work both sides: Either I sync the phone with the PC or the PC with the phone, or a real sync where just the new emails get exchanged. (On the same time I'd also get this to work for my laptop but phone more important now since i got it heh)
I hope someone can help me.
you can't sync with EVERY email client..
it does sync with outlook/OE... I don't know about thunderbird tho. What you CAN try to do is change the settings to never delete emails from your server when downloaded to your computer and then sync so that when you delete them from your phone they'd be deleted from the server.
get my drift?
hmm well im used to thunderbird, but i dont have to keep using it necessarily. I'd change if it makes this whole syncing easier. Its been bugging me for a while that I didnt have my emails on my laptop but now i also need em on the phone.. so I wanna finally get this to work.
The method you described wouldnt work if I somehow download the emails to the phone first instead of the pc, it would work like u described, but if I'd rather work it in both ways, a real "sync".
With outlook you could do this yea?
Try using Gmail or Windows Live mail, its more compatabile with most wireless. Goto m.live.com or Gmail
well, if you use gmail you can easily keep it on both your computer and your phone and it would sync both ways.
Get a gmail account. Then forward all your email accounts to the gmail account. You can also set the gmail account to send out as one of the other accounts.
Setup the gmail account as an imap client in thunderbird or outlook. Create a folder under the inappropriate account named old emails or whatever. Move the emails stored in your local folders to the folder setup under the imap account (you can do it directly to the inbox if you prefer).
Setup gmail on your mobile device.
Say thanks.
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Cleaner Explanation.
1) Create a Gmail account at Gmail.com (or skip this step if you already have one).
2) Log into the web versions of each of your email accounts. Set the account to forward all emails to the new gmail account address (typically these settings are found under the settings or Options menu somewhere on the page). If you would like to continue to use these accounts you can either:
a) Give Gmail permission to send emails as all the accounts or one in particular. (Note once in the mobile apps, you cannot choose different sender addresses, only the default one. You can however change from each address on the web interface). b) Set a forwarder and then specify to leave a message on the server.
3) Setup the gmail account you created as an IMAP account (use IMAP not SMTP) in thunderbird or Outlook.
a) You can find the Imap settings for desktop clients here.
4) Once the initial sync is complete, simply drag and drop the emails from the old inbox to the Gmail account's inbox (listed in a tree menu under the IMAP.Gmail.Com listing.
5) You can now set up this email address as a SMTP or IMAP (IMAP keeps the emails on the server. This is a better idea in some cases as you have exact copies of emails on all devices you set them up as.
6) Say thanks
You can also manually do this for each email account you have, but that would take much longer and some companies do not allow or simply haven't moved to using IMAP yet (freaky right?).
Using the gmail way, you have all your emails from all your accounts plus the wonders of google. This is the easiest way to do it I can think of.
I hope my explanation is clean and clear.
thanks for the detailed explanation I guess I'll do it that way.
But the downside that you have to keep the mails on the server still stays this way. I'd really love the option to do a real sync how you expect a sync to be but I guess thats complicated or doesnt work?
I mean like.. when I'm at home .. I download the mails from my desktop pc over usb or wlan. Then I download new emails while I'm travelling or smth - and when I get back home I sync my desktop with the phone emails.
This must work somehow? I'd really hate to have to leave my emails on the server since I got bad experience with this.
I guess I'm just beeing paranoid - but I'm also perfectionist heh, so I'd love to try n get it going "the perfect way" - aka a real offline sync without usage of any server storage. (unless you count my desktop as a server..)
If you setup the system to use smtp on the phone it will dowbload the email, other than that i would suggest using a very good password.
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Hi,
i just noticed that the default HTC Email app on the sensation, in all its awesomeness, doesn't push emails to my device. it refreshes every 5 minutes or so.
is there any way to push emails ?
Im using a gmail account.
thanks
Turn your google mail sync off then back on again, and ensure your sync is always running, that is as best push you will get.
Pushmail doesn't work on WIFi for me with the stock apps.
I use Advanced Email. Very good app and you can also access folders which i have set up on hotmail
Subsx said:
I use Advanced Email. Very good app and you can also access folders which i have set up on hotmail
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Where can I get this? You mentioned it once in one of my threads, and I've been trying to get it, but it's not on the market and Google didn't help me either.
so there is no way to get push emails on the default HTC app?
SOLVED.
I created a microsoft Exchange account with my gmail address and now emails are pushed!
thanks
You can also get hotmail emails pushed What you do is create a new Exchange/Active sync account. put in your hotmail address and password and click manual set up. Then in the username field make sure it's your full email address. in the server field type m.hotmail.com (even if it's a @live account) and you will be able to get your hotmail pushed. My school uses live mail for it's student mail and I get push email for that as well using the same method.
for yahoo there is a yahoo mail app that pushes your yahoo mail just like the gmail app.
Sorry mate its Enhanced Email, stupid predictive text
Hi
Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
Linkzz said:
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Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
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Most e-mail clients allow to adjust how often it queries the e-mail servers. It sounds like your client is using the default setting of 30 minutes or something. You'll have to go into the settings and adjust the "Check for e-mail every x minutes" setting.
If you want to receive Hotmail in realtime, you'll have to use the official Hotmail app in the Market.
X2 on the hotmail app, it works great. Also I found with the stock mail app when you delete messages it won't delete them off the server, the hotmail app does it instantly
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Linkzz said:
Hi
Is there anyway to speed the time the mail is sent to the phone from the time it is received by the service provider (that is like Hotmail or POP)
i have found it takes 30mins or more sometimes for the mail to reach my phone and it has been received by hotmail.
can anyone give me some advice on how to make this time shorter.
i am running RCMix3D Runny v3.3 on my inspire 4G
best regards
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How do you have hotmail setup? I have it setup as an exchange account in the default mail app and everything works instantly (receiving messages, deleting messages (which are also deleted from server), etc). I usually have it set to only sync every 15 minutes to save battery, but when set to push it works instantly.
server address: m.hotmail.com
username: full email address
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This is what I have done and it is working great. Go to your email provider (Hotmail, POP3, whatever it may be) and set it to forward all your emails to your Gmail address (you do have a Gmail address, right?). Use the Gmail app on you phone and your emails will get pushed to you instantly. You can also set your Gmail account to use your other email address for replies and forwards, so it looks like it's coming from the original address and not Gmail.
Thanks for the excellent info people i really didnot know there was a hotmail app. but it was setup for every 30 minis. i have changed it to 5 mins cause thats the lowest i saw. i also want to find out about the the download messages which is set to 200. does this mean that the phone will only download 200 messages "per day"?
1 last final question which i am curious about. i have other folders created in my hotmail such as sent and drafts etc. usual folders is it possible to sync these folders with my phone inorder that my hotmail account will be in sync with my phone.
sometimes i use my computer to send out mails as well as my phone. but i cant sync the sent folder. please bear in mind i have not installed the hotmail app.
however i will try it as soon as i am finished sending this post.
thanks again people for your kind support.
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This is what I have done and it is working great. Go to your email provider (Hotmail, POP3, whatever it may be) and set it to forward all your emails to your Gmail address (you do have a Gmail address, right?). Use the Gmail app on you phone and your emails will get pushed to you instantly. You can also set your Gmail account to use your other email address for replies and forwards, so it looks like it's coming from the original address and not Gmail.
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thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
best regards
Linkzz said:
thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
best regards
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You can try playing around with the settings in Gmail. I know they have fileters that you can set. I haven't tried it personally but I imagine you could set it to put the emails you forward from your other accounts into specific folders.
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Linkzz said:
thanks for the idea i did think of that option however i get alot of mail from gmail as well as hotmail and did not want them all mixed up. i am not sure if i can create a folder for hotmail in my gmail account and just push all the mail into that folder. its something i have thought about just have not tried it cause my emails have my work in them and i cant afford to mess them up.
best regards
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Create a filter in Gmail for your hotmail account and add a label named "hotmail", then forward to your Gmail account. Check sync "hotmail" folder in Gmail app. settings
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