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MOTO G, custom ROM = Yes or No?

I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So for now I have stayed with the standard Moto G Rom. Then tweaked it a little by doing the following.
1. Unlocked the phone
2. Rooted using TWRP (couldn't get CWM to work right)
3. Eliminated the Unlocked warning screen at start up :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2548530
4. Changed the 3G data to H, H+ format :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2600654
5. Installed Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvic from here :- http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120 (thanks @drfr )
6. Installed a new Faux123 Kernel, flcon_umts-faux123-kk-005u-signed.zip from here :- http://faux.romhost.me/falcon_umts/kk44/
7. From Play store installed the xposed installer
8. From Play Store added module Gravity box (KK)
9. From Play Store added module Ringer & Notification Volume
10. Installed the Apex launcher
11. From Play Store purchased Faux123 Kernel Enhancement Pro (couldn't find a free tool that worked!)
Result is a very stable ROM together with most of the little tweaks that I like to get from a Custom ROM. Plus everything works great. The current Antutu result is 19860.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?

As far as I know, the stock rom has a lot of optimizations for the Moto G hardware. For instance, its based on F2FS which is something the GPE Moto G does not have going for it.
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That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.

I have this way of thinking too. So just going through the steps 1, 2, 3, 7, 8 and 10. My phone is excellent.

drfr said:
That´s exactly the way I see things too. Played around with custom ROMs for a while and then came back to stock + all the enhancements you mentioned. Just a note to the point 5 of your list. Optimized dalvik and bionic are already included in stock ROMs.
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Thank you, I didn't know that, funny but I could swear that Antutu improved! I am still trying to decide if Point 6. Faux123 is really worth it. The 1.6gh/z over clocking is working and I am still getting two days of average use per charge. Can't decide either way really......

Same here, at this point, custom roms (non stock based) are non sense, since the stock is almost Aosp and updated as hell. Xposed is all you need.
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All you need is Xposed, Faux kernel and the optimized Dalvik :S
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Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?

Soerdroid said:
Correct me if I am wrong but the stock roms from moto are equipped with the Qualcomm-optimized bionic and dalvik patches, aren't they?
If not where can I find this patches?
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1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48932223&postcount=430
2. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120

Great antutu result. Mostly due to the overclock. CM based roms doesnt have working overclock yet.

Im far away from that 19860 antutu score, any tips? I installed faux kernel and optimizers from qualcomm and cant get even close to 18000.
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grahamgo said:
I have been using Custom Rom's for a while. But this is usually to bring a phone up to the latest possible Android version well after the manufacturer has stopped updating a device . I have been using Nexus devices so typically this is 18 months after a model is first introduced. Bit of a sore point with me coming from iPhones which get supported for much longer period. but I digress.
In the case of the Moto G. I question whether it is beneficial ATM to install a custom ROM? I have tried a couple, but have been quite disappointed up till now with reliability and performance.
So my general question, what is the advantage of using a Custom Rom, when for at the moment at least, the manufacturers ROM is fully up to date and with a few simple tweaks provides Custom Rom like appearance, together with great stability and performance?
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True. But its for now and that is because this is a brand new phone also with multiple variants like 1031/2/3
Hence creating a kind of obstruction for a successful ROM dev
Furthermore you don't just dev a ROM to get an Android update.
Its for the different features that people are looking for.
You might wanna try xposed modules.
Hell l0tta options there. Not for now but then for future.
Also then small little tweaks from other phones can be ported to this one.
There are just countless things that you can customize once you are rooted.
I had a Galaxy Ace duos CDMA which had no custom ROM.
But once I got it rooted my phone was so much better.
I had an extended internal memory with my SD card.
The bloatware that covered the small little internal memory was completely removed.
And it was so much faster and Functional with those rooted apps.
If that small little phone could do some magic with rooting.
Then this is a beast.
Half the new functionality that we get on the updates are actually the features of apps that work on rooted phones.
Wifi hotspot for an instance.
Agreed that in the current scenario its really not so useful but rooting your phone is a gift to yourself
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How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2

checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks

tsimitsangaz said:
checked the system/lib in my motog stock(nongpe) and doesnt have all the files from the Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik & Bionic libraries so can I have the latest version links to flash?Thanks
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Look into system/vendor/lib
Sent. Really?

yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.

tsimitsangaz said:
yes checked.. I need to have ( libc.so, libm.so, libcutils.so, libdvm.so, libqc-opt.so, libcutils.so) and I have only libqc-opt.so from these files.
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You do have all those files, they are not in the same folder. Just search harder.

intellq said:
How you guys were able to use Faux with Dalvik? Faux only works on my phone with ART. If i try Dalvik, com.android.phone force closes all the time. I also have tried the new dalvik, no luck either.
And that prevents me to use XPosed, cause it doesn't have an ART version. And i really miss GravityBox...
Can someone explain me how to do it?
Moto G Dual Sim (XT1033) with KitKat 4.4.2
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No one?

intellq said:
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Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
[ROM]Nexus G+ Build 007[4.4.2]
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Alejandrissimo said:
Use this rom, stock, debloated, faux kernel and xposed. Clean and fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2606943
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That rom probably won't work in my phone. I'm on an XT1033 (dual sim)
Someone with stock was able to make faux + dalvik work?

Fast custom ROM with android 4.2.2

I am looking for a custom ROM for my Samsung Galaxy S II Plus (GT-I9105P) which is faster than the stock ROM.
I installed Liquidsmooth 3.0 and tested the speed and its working perfectly now. Its based on Android version 4.4.3. But the camera app is actually really bad; the pictures are always blurry. I guess something is wrong with the focus, because it works fine with the original 4.2.2 Samsung Camera App. I found out that I can't restore the app because Liquidsmooth (Andoid 4.4.3) doesn't support Touchwiz Apps.
Even the apps from the PlayStore are not as good as the old SamsungCamera App.
So here's my question: Is there a fast custom ROM (preferred a popular like LiquidSmooth) which is baised on 4.2.2? Or are there others who have also problems with blurry pictures in 4.4.3 and have a fix?
CWM 10.1.3 has a lot of bugs, like no vibration, so I don't want this ROM. LiquidSmooth 2.3 is baised on Andoird 4.2.2 but there is no Download Link for the SGS II Plus / doesn't supported? Or does the Phone model even matter?
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!!

jwsp1 said:
I am looking for a custom ROM for my Samsung Galaxy S II Plus (GT-I9105P) which is faster than the stock ROM.
I installed Liquidsmooth 3.0 and tested the speed and its working perfectly now. Its based on Android version 4.4.3. But the camera app is actually really bad; the pictures are always blurry. I guess something is wrong with the focus, because it works fine with the original 4.2.2 Samsung Camera App. I found out that I can't restore the app because Liquidsmooth (Andoid 4.4.3) doesn't support Touchwiz Apps.
Even the apps from the PlayStore are not as good as the old SamsungCamera App.
So here's my question: Is there a fast custom ROM (preferred a popular like LiquidSmooth) which is baised on 4.2.2? Or are there others who have also problems with blurry pictures in 4.4.3 and have a fix?
CWM 10.1.3 has a lot of bugs, like no vibration, so I don't want this ROM. LiquidSmooth 2.3 is baised on Andoird 4.2.2 but there is no Download Link for the SGS II Plus / doesn't supported? Or does the Phone model even matter?
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!!
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Try lollipop rom... In my opinion has much better camera than kitkat. The only iconvenience is that still don't have the option to sd and don't have pause on camcorder yet

cracker12 said:
Try lollipop rom... In my opinion has much better camera than kitkat. The only iconvenience is that still don't have the option to sd and don't have pause on camcorder yet
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But isn't cwm a Rom created for more personalizing and not for increasing speed? I am worried that it's still slow or is it the speed compared to liquidsmooth?

Lollipop ROM runs on ART runtime, it's much more effective than Dalvik-based.
So far 2 weeks of use no lag at all, back when I was using Paranoid Android 4.6 or CM11 M12, there were some lag sometimes.
Battery life is more awesome than before. In previous ROMs, I don't use GPS and ended up like 30% battery by the end of the day.
With Lollipop, I use GPS 24/7 and ended up 30% battery by the end of the day too.

cracker12 said:
Try lollipop rom... In my opinion has much better camera than kitkat. The only iconvenience is that still don't have the option to sd and don't have pause on camcorder yet
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Raven_Yen said:
Lollipop ROM runs on ART runtime, it's much more effective than Dalvik-based.
So far 2 weeks of use no lag at all, back when I was using Paranoid Android 4.6 or CM11 M12, there were some lag sometimes.
Battery life is more awesome than before. In previous ROMs, I don't use GPS and ended up like 30% battery by the end of the day.
With Lollipop, I use GPS 24/7 and ended up 30% battery by the end of the day too.
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So I uses ART to speed up the system but the apps are bigger... Am I right? Is there the option to move some of the apps to the SD card?

jwsp1 said:
So I uses ART to speed up the system but the apps are bigger... Am I right? Is there the option to move some of the apps to the SD card?
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Sort of, I don't think there is an option for now for our device. Perhaps in the future.

Raven_Yen said:
Sort of, I don't think there is an option for now for our device. Perhaps in the future.
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Okay thanks for your help so far, I'll try it out tomorrow and will report!

ClockworkMod recovery with SELinux support
Hey guys,
so I was trying to install the ROM but I got a "Status 7" Error which is caused by not having the SELinux support.
I was looking for the file for about an hour but I can't find it.
My CWM-based Recovery has the version 6.0.4.5.

jwsp1 said:
Hey guys,
so I was trying to install the ROM but I got a "Status 7" Error which is caused by not having the SELinux support.
I was looking for the file for about an hour but I can't find it.
My CWM-based Recovery has the version 6.0.4.5.
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Try twrp or philztouch by haky

cracker12 said:
Try twrp or philztouch by haky
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Wow thanks a lot, it finally works!

cracker12 said:
Try twrp or philztouch by haky
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So the rom is great and the battery lasts so much longer but there are still some bugs. Its so great having the latest Android version on this "old" phone! But does any of you also have the problem that after every reboot, some of the app icons are missing/deleted?

jwsp1 said:
So the rom is great and the battery lasts so much longer but there are still some bugs. Its so great having the latest Android version on this "old" phone! But does any of you also have the problem that after every reboot, some of the app icons are missing/deleted?
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Some apps that are installed on memory card its take more time to load

App2SD? Yep ,you can do that on lolipop
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jwsp1 said:
I am looking for a custom ROM for my Samsung Galaxy S II Plus (GT-I9105P) which is faster than the stock ROM.
I installed Liquidsmooth 3.0 and tested the speed and its working perfectly now. Its based on Android version 4.4.3. But the camera app is actually really bad; the pictures are always blurry. I guess something is wrong with the focus, because it works fine with the original 4.2.2 Samsung Camera App. I found out that I can't restore the app because Liquidsmooth (Andoid 4.4.3) doesn't support Touchwiz Apps.
Even the apps from the PlayStore are not as good as the old SamsungCamera App.
So here's my question: Is there a fast custom ROM (preferred a popular like LiquidSmooth) which is baised on 4.2.2? Or are there others who have also problems with blurry pictures in 4.4.3 and have a fix?
CWM 10.1.3 has a lot of bugs, like no vibration, so I don't want this ROM. LiquidSmooth 2.3 is baised on Andoird 4.2.2 but there is no Download Link for the SGS II Plus / doesn't supported? Or does the Phone model even matter?
Thanks for your help, I really appreciate it!!
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There is liquid smooth 3.2 (4.4.4) fyi,. you could try the new google camera from the play store. There are other kitkat roms that are also excellent(sprit,axxion,PAC,PA) should you think Lolipop is too buggy, but you cannot installed touchwiz apps on a custom rom, regardless of android version.

Yeungers said:
There is liquid smooth 3.2 (4.4.4) fyi,. you could try the new google camera from the play store. There are other kitkat roms that are also excellent(sprit,axxion,PAC,PA) should you think Lolipop is too buggy, but you cannot installed touchwiz apps on a custom rom, regardless of android version.
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Okay thanks a lot for your answer. I decided to update to Cm12 with Android 5. It's pretty good so far and the developers bring new updates very quickly.

should i update my s6 to 5.1.1?

i didnt get the ota update but when i connected to Smart Switch it shows the 5.1.1 update..... what do i do?????
update it or no

Might as well update, it's batter than 5.0.2 was IMO

abi_sam said:
i didnt get the ota update but when i connected to Smart Switch it shows the 5.1.1 update..... what do i do?????
update it or no
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5.1.1 adds RAW image support. It also has a flurry of bug fixes and security patches. As long as you don't care about root I would say go for it.

Snowby123 said:
5.1.1 adds RAW image support. It also has a flurry of bug fixes and security patches. As long as you don't care about root I would say go for it.
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i read some where that it dosent support RAW image.

abi_sam said:
i read some where that it dosent support RAW image.
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When Samsung announced the 5.1.1 update, camera improve Mrs were the biggest part of the update. I know that many users have said the camera improvements are there. I actually have seen photo samples and they look pretty good.

abi_sam said:
i didnt get the ota update but when i connected to Smart Switch it shows the 5.1.1 update..... what do i do?????
update it or no
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Don't update! The battery life of the preinstalled stock ROM is a little better as is the case in almost all smartphones.
I wished I didn't update, but the thing downloaded the update automatically
Nothing wrong with 5.1, but I find 5.0 battery life is better!

Fullmetal Jun said:
Don't update! The battery life of the preinstalled stock ROM is a little better as is the case in almost all smartphones.
I wished I didn't update, but the thing downloaded the update automatically
Nothing wrong with 5.1, but I find 5.0 battery life is better!
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I find 5.1 battery life to be not too bad.
If you're willing to forgo all the patches, updates and improved RAM just for the sake of battery life, be my guest.

Yeah definitely update the phone. When I first got it the phone was very laggy compared to my m8 but with the update it's gotten better. Don't get me wrong, it still has its lags here and there but not nearly as much as before
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Holding back on installing the update doesn't make sense to me.
The update includes various features, improvements, tweaks and fixes. Why wouldn't you apply it?
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You can root 5.1.1 but some roms aren't updated to 5.1.1 so you won't be able to flash them due to the new bootloader also once you go to 5.1.1 there is no going back to 5.0.2 due to the new bootloader so I would just use a 5.1.1 ROM unless that has WiFi issues for you then just update.

Who is running Marshmallow on their Z3?

Hi guys,
Anyone on here running Marshmallow OK on their Z3 and using it as their daily driver? I can from a CM 12 official nightly build, and installed an unofficial CM 13 build by Infected_ , which I must say is running great. Gapps to a while to get running ok, but now they're the running fine.
Just to make people who don't already know aware, that there is currently no camera app working for Marshmallow yet, so you'll have to be able to live with that.

I am using Sony's concept software as a daily driver and I am completely satisfied with given performance and stability. Current release is 6.0.1 build number 3027.
No lags, no freezes, no reboots, no random app crashes... seems like a rock solid software.

what about battery life of MM compared to LP ?

The Infected_ build of CM13 Marshmallow that I'm running seems to have great battery life. Same as if not better than CM12 nightlies.

I was using Concept FW, too. I quitted using some days before Christmas because of too many missing essential features. Battery life is still ok, but for me stock stamina mode seems to make a better job than doze. And I hated the orange coloured status and navigation bar when being in battery safe mode...
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I am running marshmallow on my Z3 and it blows. Can't move any data onto my SD card anymore, camera reads as 8mb instead of 20.7. Wish I hadn't updated. So now my memory card is all but useless. When my main memory fills I have to delete or unistall.
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sonic_the_hedgeh said:
I am running marshmallow on my Z3 and it blows. Can't move any data onto my SD card anymore, camera reads as 8mb instead of 20.7. Wish I hadn't updated. So now my memory card is all but useless. When my main memory fills I have to delete or unistall.
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You could search a little and find a fix for your issues.

So far some apps move but some don't work. With lollipop all apps worked that I moved and the transfer to SD card function worked. I now have to transfer all manually. Thank you but I think this requires an update
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Boost speed on Moto G 2015 (8GB)

I got my Moto G mid-October 2015 but I opted for the version with 1GB RAM because of budget constraints. At first it performed pretty well even while doing a bit of multitasking, but now I'm just having problems; excessive lag during the animations and loading apps, slow multitasking, apps closing frequently in the background, battery drain and etc. How do I rectify this? I have tried limiting the number of apps allowed to be on in the background, using Greenify, factory resetting and even installing custom ROMs.
This is kinda putting a damper on things for me. Any help would be appreciated ;3

i'm actually amazed with the performance i can pull out of my device.. try a lightweight rom with flashhhh's kernel

Or try to flash the original Stock Firmware again via Fasboot.
Another thing what i have seen at my Sons Mobile is the SD-Card was slowing down the hole Mobile.
Just put for testing your Sd-Card out and try again. If its so, the just save your Data of your SD-Card, format it and put it back to your Mobile.

Hi... Same problem here... And i've tested the sdcard and the results were about 33 mb/sec for reads and 16mb/sec for writes... any rom to recommend? Maybe CM 13.1 ? I've tried CM 12.1 but it does the same... slow like hell even some times it completely freezes....Also with every restart it starts optimizing just one app... all the time... with stock 5.1.1 , with stock 6.0, with cm 12.1..... any help or advice?
PS: I just use (and need) facebook, fb messenger, fb pages and whatsapp.
Thanks in advance!

I'm using a Sandisk Ultra 32gb card since I started soak testing MM when it first came out and have every app that will go to it moved. I've never had a freeze or any slowdown. The only problem I've ever had is sometimes on a reboot the moved apps are greyed out until I restart Nova launcher. That seems to happen only with the beta Nova I'm running so it may be Nova.
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I'm on MM too... I'm trying using Nova right now... will see...

Mine is 16gb but started to have similar issues (slow loads, some freezes). The solution was to stock rom & kernel and added my SD Card as internal storage (I can't explain why did it help either).

MagusWRM said:
Mine is 16gb but started to have similar issues (slow loads, some freezes). The solution was to stock rom & kernel and added my SD Card as internal storage (I can't explain why did it help either).
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Which one? v1.0 or 1.0a? And how did you do to stop the update service? It never stops asking for upgrade to MM... Or if I do the upgrade, it will replace the modified/optimized kernel, right?

jkiper said:
Which one? v1.0 or 1.0a? And how did you do to stop the update service? It never stops asking for upgrade to MM... Or if I do the upgrade, it will replace the modified/optimized kernel, right?
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Mine is XT1543, using MM 6.0 (24.44.1). And no, the official auto-upgrade will not replace your kernel, you must flash the stock first or the MM Stock directly.

MagusWRM said:
Mine is XT1543, using MM 6.0 (24.44.1). And no, the official auto-upgrade will not replace your kernel, you must flash the stock first or the MM Stock directly.
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Great, thanks, so v1.0 or 1.0a (or others of the link you posted) are stock roms, but with modified kernels? Great...thanks again

jkiper said:
Great, thanks, so v1.0 or 1.0a (or others of the link you posted) are stock roms, but with modified kernels? Great...thanks again
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They are the stock of the stock (rom + kernel + user data + everything you modified except the unlocked status)
Don't forget to backup all your data

MagusWRM said:
They are the stock of the stock (rom + kernel + user data + everything you modified except the unlocked status)
Don't forget to backup all your data
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Great.... did you update then to MM ? or any MM rom optimized like these ones?

jkiper said:
Great.... did you update then to MM ? or any MM rom optimized like these ones?
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Upgraded to the official MM.

MagusWRM said:
Upgraded to the official MM.
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How did you upgrade ? OTA? ... it seems to be disabled.... thanks again

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How did you upgrade ? OTA? ... it seems to be disabled.... thanks again
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OTA will work if you are using official (from Motorola) releases.
Just flash the stock rom (some versions already has Android 6.0 available).

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OTA will work if you are using official (from Motorola) releases.
Just flash the stock rom (some versions already has Android 6.0 available).
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Sorry... I dont get it... I flash the zip v1.0a (android 5.1.1) and then....? look for official 5.1.1 and flash it using fastboot? that would overwrite the first optimized one...

jkiper said:
Sorry... I dont get it... I flash the zip v1.0a (android 5.1.1) and then....? look for official 5.1.1 and flash it using fastboot? that would overwrite the first optimized one...
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I do not use custom rom/kernel, I do use stock rom/kernel only (I did used custom kernel in the past, but my phone got slower)
Flash the stock rom to remove any customizations and get your device clean again.

when you said :
"Mine is 16gb but started to have similar issues (slow loads, some freezes). The solution was to stock rom & kernel and added my SD Card as internal storage (I can't explain why did it help either)."
I understood that you refer to the v1.0a , the .zip file in that link in "stock rom & kernel"..... Do you have the download link to the rom you are using?? Thanks