Hello,
I am on a neverending quest to get Spotify to play my local files gapless.
I have some concert rips and some gapless albums that simply aren't on Spotify. Neither Google Play Music nor Spotify will play them gapless. Worse, GPM won't play ANYTHING gapless, from their library or not. I'm very serious about my music and this is a problem. i've been reading that GPM playing gapless depends on the phone itself, mostly Nexus can do it. I wondered if anybody here has a S7 and Google Play Music and would be willing to do a test for me?
1. Download not stream a gapless album (say, Madonna "Confessions Tour", Mike Oldfield "Tubular Bells 2003", etc.)
2. Play it on headphones
3. Are there gaps between songs? (Half a second or so, but still)
My Xperia Z5 Compact can't play GPM content gapless, it plays Spotify library content gapless, but not local files I sync.
Thank you very much to anyone who can be bothered to check that for me! I'm changing phones in a month and I would like to get one that won't make my musical OCD triggered every few minutes.
I was about to report something similar.
Actually, I have ripped Madonna's Confession Tour and transfered it locally on my phone.
Both GPM and Samsung Music refuse to play them gaplessly.
On the contrary, apps that use somekind of dedicated/internal decoding do play them gaplessly, for example Foobar.
I strongly believe there is something on the kernel or google's native decoders that gets lost in the chain of audio playback when it comes to gapless playback, like the implementation chain is breaking or there's simply no native gapless implementation.
This sucks, if you do a google search you'll see LOTS of people being frustrated with the issue, reporting it and google simply ignores them.
I am p*ssed off aswell, I find it very embarassing that at 2017 not every device can do native gapless out of the box atleast on formats that support it natively, a day that our phones do so many stuff that a decade ago we needed like 20 separate devices to do the same stuff yet something like this seems like it's either not important or too hard to do.
VIRGIN KLM said:
there's simply no native gapless implementation.
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This is correct
You can however make an app that plays gapless without
VIRGIN KLM said:
somekind of dedicated/internal decoding
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That app would internally use 2 players, when the first one finishes its song, the second one starts and when that one finishes, the first one starts again etc.
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This is correct
You can however make an app that plays gapless without
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It is not entirely true though. There are devices that most of them run on CM based or pure AOSP that actually gapless works with the same combination of apps.
For example:
My old HTC EVO 3D has gapless playback on CM based roms with GPM.
My Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 has actual gapless on GPM but not on Samsung Music.
My dad's Nexus 5 needs to have enabled the equaliser for gapless to work.
There is somekind of chain from the audio file until the audio reaches your ears that one of the links break.
I'm just trying to figure out what.
@raytheblacksmith and @waterdaan or everybody else that may care, I can confirm that Nougat fixed the gapless playback issue!
All tracks I'm playing with Samsung Music are gapless now!
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Hey, everyone!
So I've been using the Fuze for a while, and while I'm very impressed with how well it plays music (the last exposure I had to listening to music on a phone was not a good one...), I'm a bit bitter about the shortcomings I've run across on the simpler things. I wonder if anyone here could answer these questions:
* Does anyone know an app or background service that lets me adjust volume with the screen OFF? It's a bit inconvenient to have to unlock the phone every time I want to adjust the volume.
* Does anyone know of a lean and mean music player that supports gapless playback AND has at least a basic library that isn't slow? I tried Pocket Player (horrible library performance), Kinoma (no gapless and horribly laggy), S2P (great library, but graphics were distracting and no gapless), HTC's built-in player (pretty good, but no gapless) and Windows Media (need I say more?) and all of the other apps I've heard about don't catalog music.
Thanks!
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Hey, everyone!
So I've been using the Fuze for a while, and while I'm very impressed with how well it plays music (the last exposure I had to listening to music on a phone was not a good one...), I'm a bit bitter about the shortcomings I've run across on the simpler things. I wonder if anyone here could answer these questions:
* Does anyone know an app or background service that lets me adjust volume with the screen OFF? It's a bit inconvenient to have to unlock the phone every time I want to adjust the volume.
* Does anyone know of a lean and mean music player that supports gapless playback AND has at least a basic library that isn't slow? I tried Pocket Player (horrible library performance), Kinoma (no gapless and horribly laggy), S2P (great library, but graphics were distracting and no gapless), HTC's built-in player (pretty good, but no gapless) and Windows Media (need I say more?) and all of the other apps I've heard about don't catalog music.
Thanks!
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for ur first question i HIGHLY doubt theres an app unless u have S2U2 as an unlock app, then u can change the settings where u can change the volume without unlocking
for ur second question, try nitrogen player, never tried it but i heard alot of good reviews for it http://www.dewantoro.net/search/nitro+player+WM
the only i use on my TP for music was the TF3D player and i havent experienced any problems with it, but give nitrogen player a try...
Libraries are going to be slow if you have a large collection. Try TCPMP or mortplayer-they use a file explorer instead of a library. The downside is that you can't play genres or all your music. You need to make playlists.
PocketPlayer has gapless playback and many other features. The only problem is that it is not integrated into manila.
Can someone tell me why in PowerAmp there is a 'Folders' button and 'Library' button.
I'm pretty confused by the interface and the app itself and how to use the folders/library and which is for what and how it should be used.
All my songs I put on the phone appear in the 'Folders' menu, but none of those songs appear in the 'Library' which really seems to be more of a sensible place for them to appear because the Library has all songs, artists, playlists etc and seems to be the normal area for the app to store its music.
I have no idea how to get the music in there which is where I want it.
When I am playing a song it shows the artist and title and below it a folder path location? But why? It's like a path of where it is on the phone's SD card and the path of where it was on the computer. I don't need this information in the player view.
Also, I have to have my volume on max to hear anything decently despite being told PowerAmp helps the issue of the low media volume with the default audio player. (Sennheiser CX870s). Anyone know why/how to get the volume working more 'normally'? (Desire HD)
Any tips are appreciated.
Any other good music player app suggestions are appreciated.
Never encountered this with the default music player (where the audio is not loud enough).
I use the full version of Power Amp (no difference from trial) and it works great for me because I find the stock music player sorely lacking, leaving a lot to be desired.
You could try messing with the equalizer, I don't have my phone on my person at the moment so my advice isn't as solid as I'd like...
Have you tried another music player such as DoubleTwist?
(look up on market place; i can't post links yet )
I use a pair of $50 Sony MDR EX85LP earbuds, they're great for the price and on my Droid X they are plenty loud for my tastes, could it possibly be the earbuds or specific piece of music you are listening to?
If what I mentioned doesn't help my last piece of advice would be to try and find some sort of digital amp that would amplify your music, or an actual pocket amp.
Sorry I forgot to say the volume issues is regarding the HTC Desire HD.
Thanks mithikx I'll check out DoubleTwist.
Anyone else who can answer my OP questions, that would be great
PowerAMP has both features for, well, convenience. A lot of people who're really into their music like to organise it themselves, with a folder structure of their choosing - eg. they might have it separated by genres, or by what mood the music reminds them of, or what place they like to play the music in. The 'Folders' tab gives you the same actual folder structure as is on the SD card, I find it quite handy myself, it makes a lot more sense to me because I can specify the structure any way I choose, much easier than making playlists.
The library, on the other hand, is just like PowerAMP tells you when you first tab to it - it's the default Android media library, and is managed by Android, not PowerAMP. It's the traditional media player structure, and sounds like that's what works best for you. If files aren't showing up in the library, you need to get the default Sense media player (Assuming you're on a stock DHD build) to scan that music, because in theory it shouldn't be showing up in the Sense player if it's not in the PowerAMP library. Try restarting the phone, unmounting/remounting the SD card, or downloading a widget that lets you trigger a media scan.
As for the volume, have you tried boosting the 'pre-amp' in the PowerAMP equalizer? The only other media player I'd recommend would be Winamp, don't like DoubleTwist myself.
Hope this helps.
Hi
I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?
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I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?
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I don't see it happening honestly. SRS Labs licenses their technologies, which would make PowerAMP more expensive than it already is. You can probably mess around with the EQ to make the sound similar to SRS I bet.
Haven't found one yet and hoping someone could give an answer here.
I know PowerAMP has it on a roadmap. Rockbox is supposedly working on an app. Haven't found something that works.
Appreciate your help.
Something that works....
Mp3Gain for the PC. Simply add entire music collection, set level, run job and then copy to phone.
And the kludgy solution it is :/
Thx.
MP3Gain
Hi,
that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
I'm looking for a media player with Replaygain as well.
Ah, I would like this too!
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that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
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MP3Gain is only lossy in extreme cases, as it merely alters global gain, which is a parameter of the mp3 format. It also adds tags with info, so changes can be undone.
But yes, it's just a workaround and pretty annoying. A player with ReplayGain is needed - hopefully one that can kill the retarded inbuilt compression of many handsets.
mp3gain is a workaround just in cases in which all your collection is in mp3.
As ogg vorbis gives a better quality at same file size, most of my collection is in this format.
Just tried the latest build of rockbox, at
http://audio-life.co.uk/apps/rockbox_android/
Worked for my nexus s, and tried it does support replaygain!
The interface is really kludgy though.
poweramp seems to support replaygain now!
Motorola Defy CM72120121, german Froyo base
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poweramp seems to support replaygain now!
Motorola Defy CM72120121, german Froyo base
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It is having this issue though:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index....otificationtextringtone-and-playing-poweramp/
Just to clear up a misconception that seems to have arisen in the thread. Using MP3Gain is not at all detrimental to quality. It doesn't alter the music track at all but instead adds replaygain data to a tag.
There's no 'lossy' to it at all. As for 'kludgy'... in-app, on the fly replaygain will be shockingly bad in comparison to the MP3Gain method.
i just read about mp3gain and there are two methods. one of then does alter the mp3-file but losslessly! and it even creates tags to undo that process. but that only works for mp3. which really is an outdated format.
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Just to clear up a misconception that seems to have arisen in the thread. Using MP3Gain is not at all detrimental to quality. It doesn't alter the music track at all but instead adds replaygain data to a tag.
There's no 'lossy' to it at all. As for 'kludgy'... in-app, on the fly replaygain will be shockingly bad in comparison to the MP3Gain method.
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I know this is an old thread, but after doing many months of researching, I would not advise using mp3gain, that is of course unless you're sure you want to permanently modify your mp3 files. The "lossless" method does not just simply write tags in the files. It does do that, but that's not all it does. All it writes to the tag is the UNDO information. What happens if you bork your APE metadata and you want to undo it? You're screwed.
Anyway, I'm reviving this thread because I've been struggling in all the years I've had an android device to find a suitable music solution.
Currently, the music player I use that supports ReplayGain is DeaDBeeF. And it's free. Unfortunately, it doesn't load album art correctly. The dev said months and months ago that he was working on it, but I haven't seen any updates. It now has a holo themed UI, but it's not the most attractive, though It's not necessarily ugly (imo).
Winamp supports RG, but only if you pay for the PRO version.
There were other free players on the market that supposedly support RG, but a couple of them had the exact same description while coming from different developers. Seemed shady to me. And most of them looked fairly ugly. The only one I tried had some weird option for controlling the strength of the RG. That seemed odd to me, as the value for RG itself determines the dB. So I had to question whether it was really using the RG values, or doing something kludgy with it.
I wonder how hard RG support is to actually code. If a small, simple player like DB has it built in for free, surely we can add it to Apollo?
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Hi,
that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
I'm looking for a media player with Replaygain as well.
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Even, 8 thousand sounds is time consuming with this. I have done each artist separately so far with what I got but to keep doing this because a player does not have same volume option on it, and especially 2 out of 3 players does not have this option, is stupid. Especially paid for the apps, and the devs do not even want to bother to add it. Actually, I only asked BlackPlayer dev to add it, and they won't even bother.
They rather spend more time on customizing looks, than adding audio features. It is a freaking audio player ffs. The 3 players I have paid for are Poweramp, Stellio, and BlackPlayer. Currently, using Stellio because the audio is comparable to Poweramp, but not using Poweramp because I was so called patiently waiting for v3 beta, but max is taking forever.
I love the look of Stellio and also the audio set to preset bass&treble is just awesome sounding on the builtin equalizer. With my Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro, I got the media volume limiter set to where it is max volume without going more louder and hurting my ears, which is another nice feature, but the ones that are loud enough maxed are great sounding, until the lower tracks start, and they are not so great at lower volume.
That is why I am after this going to email Stellio dev and ask about adding replaygain or something like Spotify has in settings, under options for enabling same volume for all tracks or songs.
I was going to suggest jetAudio Plus and foobar2000 but don't bother. Those apps are too unstable.
There are a lot of Android players with ReplayGain support:
Omnia, GoneMad, Vanilla Music, foobar2000 Mobile, AIMP, Vinyl Music Player, Pulsar, Oto Music, Poweramp, Neutron Player, PlayerPro, jetAudio, MediaMonkey, FiiO Music, and probably a few more that I don't know of.
All of them can use per-album ReplayGain, those which don't have an option for it in the settings automatically choose it over per-track ReplayGain.
All but jetAudio, MediaMonkey and FiiO Music allow you to reduce loudness for tracks without ReplayGain metadata.
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That is why I am after this going to email Stellio dev and ask about adding replaygain or something like Spotify has in settings, under options for enabling same volume for all tracks or songs.
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I don't think you want what Spotify has in its settings, it ruins audio quality for many songs by raising their volume with the help of dyamic compression.
Because volume levels on Spotify are already quite similar the option is not that useful anyway. That's because Spotify, before reencoding, already does some normalizing. From what I've read they probably set the peaks of all albums to -2dB, then lower the loudness of all albums with a loudness above -14 LUFS to a loudness of -14 LUFS, which means only tracks with huge dynamic range should have non-optimal loudness relative to the other tracks.
I would leave that option off unless you're in a very noisy environment.
Hi all, I am looking for a music app that's easy on battery.
Criteria: Must work without media scanner
I have disabled media scanner, so literally all music apps I got from market can't seem to pick up my audio files. One works -- Music Folder Player Donate. I am looking for something like it, that reads based on folders, or scans music internally, rather than relying on media scanner.
This app is all nice, but it is missing navigation controls in notification dropdown. I am looking for a music app that would provide me these controls too. I am not too particular on lock screen music controls.
Have you tried PlayerPro?
How about mort player, has a nice widget too. I personally use power amp. But i feel mort is just as good. And free.
I would first like to try a free one, n then can upgrade. And then it should be easy on battery too.
Edit: Mort is packed with so many features for a free app!!!
The trick is that you need to check if the player supports GAPLESS playback. Most do *not*. So any live stuff, albums that blend songs together (Pink Floyd is notorious for this) will get a nice annoying pause in between songs that was never intended to be there. Even if some claim they are gapless they in practice are not (believe nothing, test everything). The app needs to actually trim any small dead spot at the end or you will get a click or pop at the end of songs.
The only player I found that does this successfully is Power Amp but there could be others, I just haven't found them yet.
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The trick is that you need to check if the player supports GAPLESS playback. Most do *not*. So any live stuff, albums that blend songs together (Pink Floyd is notorious for this) will get a nice annoying pause in between songs that was never intended to be there. Even if some claim they are gapless they in practice are not (believe nothing, test everything). The app needs to actually trim any small dead spot at the end or you will get a click or pop at the end of songs.
The only player I found that does this successfully is Power Amp but there could be others, I just haven't found them yet.
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My main criteria is low processor usage when to maximize battery.
Mort is good. Of the time I had the player on and screen off, it was on 200 for about 90% of time. CPU foreground was only 14s for about 47 mins of usage.
hello,
i need a music player how show Clip also.
you have one good?
If by that you mean a music player which can also play videos, try : PlayerPro
It Does that.
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If by that you mean a music player which can also play videos, try : PlayerPro
It Does that.
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No, i mean music player how is a Regular player that show Also the clip of the sony, and if the song has not have clip he show Nothing or picture.
* the song with the clip i will downlode from YouTube.
I'm sorry but your translating service is making a mess of your question...
What is "clip"? Album art? Lyrics? What you "download from youtube" is normally video, which Electrostatic Text already mentioned.
Cptnodegard said:
I'm sorry but your translating service is making a mess of your question...
What is "clip"? Album art? Lyrics? What you "download from youtube" is normally video, which Electrostatic Text already mentioned.
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I want a player that plays songs and the song's video player. Without separation of video and songs. If the song has a video he saw him, unless he noy has a movie he saw a picture or a picture of the player. The songs I download YouTubeבטל עריכות
I don't know of any such apps, but I know what you mean now, so I'll elaborate for anyone else who might know:
He/she wants the same kind of music player system that you get with iTunes and iOS devices, where music videos and audio files mix in a way that makes it appear as though music videos are simply audio files with video album art. They mix with the audio file in every other way, from artist/album/etc tags to being included in playlists and shuffle modes.
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I don't know of any such apps, but I know what you mean now, so I'll elaborate for anyone else who might know:
He/she wants the same kind of music player system that you get with iTunes and iOS devices, where music videos and audio files mix in a way that makes it appear as though music videos are simply audio files with video album art. They mix with the audio file in every other way, from artist/album/etc tags to being included in playlists and shuffle modes.
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right, : I want like the iphone player.
we can do it int android ? threre player like that ?
I tried searching on Google Play but couldn't find anything... maybe someone knows of a player that can do it.
I liked that feature in iOS too, but there's one problem with it: video files don't have any system for storing album/artist/title data. Apple adds that to its videos using the .m4v container format, which is how they can merge the two so seamlessly. Without that system in place, it's tricky finding a way to mix audio with album/artist/title data with video files that don't have them. Not impossible, but it could explain why there doesn't seem to be any such apps.