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Using the Fuze for music; a few questions.

Hey, everyone!
So I've been using the Fuze for a while, and while I'm very impressed with how well it plays music (the last exposure I had to listening to music on a phone was not a good one...), I'm a bit bitter about the shortcomings I've run across on the simpler things. I wonder if anyone here could answer these questions:
* Does anyone know an app or background service that lets me adjust volume with the screen OFF? It's a bit inconvenient to have to unlock the phone every time I want to adjust the volume.
* Does anyone know of a lean and mean music player that supports gapless playback AND has at least a basic library that isn't slow? I tried Pocket Player (horrible library performance), Kinoma (no gapless and horribly laggy), S2P (great library, but graphics were distracting and no gapless), HTC's built-in player (pretty good, but no gapless) and Windows Media (need I say more?) and all of the other apps I've heard about don't catalog music.
Thanks!

cnunez1987 said:
Hey, everyone!
So I've been using the Fuze for a while, and while I'm very impressed with how well it plays music (the last exposure I had to listening to music on a phone was not a good one...), I'm a bit bitter about the shortcomings I've run across on the simpler things. I wonder if anyone here could answer these questions:
* Does anyone know an app or background service that lets me adjust volume with the screen OFF? It's a bit inconvenient to have to unlock the phone every time I want to adjust the volume.
* Does anyone know of a lean and mean music player that supports gapless playback AND has at least a basic library that isn't slow? I tried Pocket Player (horrible library performance), Kinoma (no gapless and horribly laggy), S2P (great library, but graphics were distracting and no gapless), HTC's built-in player (pretty good, but no gapless) and Windows Media (need I say more?) and all of the other apps I've heard about don't catalog music.
Thanks!
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for ur first question i HIGHLY doubt theres an app unless u have S2U2 as an unlock app, then u can change the settings where u can change the volume without unlocking
for ur second question, try nitrogen player, never tried it but i heard alot of good reviews for it http://www.dewantoro.net/search/nitro+player+WM
the only i use on my TP for music was the TF3D player and i havent experienced any problems with it, but give nitrogen player a try...

Libraries are going to be slow if you have a large collection. Try TCPMP or mortplayer-they use a file explorer instead of a library. The downside is that you can't play genres or all your music. You need to make playlists.

PocketPlayer has gapless playback and many other features. The only problem is that it is not integrated into manila.

[Q] Nice MP3 Player with home screen and folder support?

I am looking for an Android player that is pretty simple but i do not see why its so hard to find?
All I want is something that lets me play MP3's.. that does not scan the entire device (ringtones always seem to show up and I dont want them to)
something that kinda roots itself on the SD Card in a folder like "Music"
with a nice home screen
AND
somethign that will resume the next time it's open. for some reason the media player that comes with my Captivate seems to wants me to start all over when i dont use it for 30 min or so..
simple?
thanks for the advise
Eaton

PowerAMP. It's in the market, and has a really nice EQ setup in addition to what you're talking about. It's in beta right now.
http://power-amp.info/

thank you, Downloading and testing this now. I will keep you posted on my impression!

There is one in alpha
Try this one. It pulls data in from the music folder and allows for pause, fast forward and rewind. However it is still in alpha...

Meridian player has most of the features you are after such as Folder browsing and resuming Videos. Plus it has decent widget also

student.driver said:
PowerAMP. It's in the market, and has a really nice EQ setup in addition to what you're talking about. It's in beta right now.
http://power-amp.info/
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+1 for Power Amp

Player pro does the folder playing and is very simple, got some nice widget aswell

MortPlayer is another nice light alternative that meets your criteria. There is also a version of MortPlayer specifically for audiobooks that allows you to make bookmarks in your sound files.
I actually use both PowerAMP and MortPlayer: PowerAMP for general music listening and it's very pretty UI, and MortPlayer for listening to long recordings of lectures so that I can consistently come back to where I left off.

PowerAmp [HELP]!

Can someone tell me why in PowerAmp there is a 'Folders' button and 'Library' button.
I'm pretty confused by the interface and the app itself and how to use the folders/library and which is for what and how it should be used.
All my songs I put on the phone appear in the 'Folders' menu, but none of those songs appear in the 'Library' which really seems to be more of a sensible place for them to appear because the Library has all songs, artists, playlists etc and seems to be the normal area for the app to store its music.
I have no idea how to get the music in there which is where I want it.
When I am playing a song it shows the artist and title and below it a folder path location? But why? It's like a path of where it is on the phone's SD card and the path of where it was on the computer. I don't need this information in the player view.
Also, I have to have my volume on max to hear anything decently despite being told PowerAmp helps the issue of the low media volume with the default audio player. (Sennheiser CX870s). Anyone know why/how to get the volume working more 'normally'? (Desire HD)
Any tips are appreciated.
Any other good music player app suggestions are appreciated.

Never encountered this with the default music player (where the audio is not loud enough).
I use the full version of Power Amp (no difference from trial) and it works great for me because I find the stock music player sorely lacking, leaving a lot to be desired.
You could try messing with the equalizer, I don't have my phone on my person at the moment so my advice isn't as solid as I'd like...
Have you tried another music player such as DoubleTwist?
(look up on market place; i can't post links yet )
I use a pair of $50 Sony MDR EX85LP earbuds, they're great for the price and on my Droid X they are plenty loud for my tastes, could it possibly be the earbuds or specific piece of music you are listening to?
If what I mentioned doesn't help my last piece of advice would be to try and find some sort of digital amp that would amplify your music, or an actual pocket amp.

Sorry I forgot to say the volume issues is regarding the HTC Desire HD.
Thanks mithikx I'll check out DoubleTwist.
Anyone else who can answer my OP questions, that would be great

PowerAMP has both features for, well, convenience. A lot of people who're really into their music like to organise it themselves, with a folder structure of their choosing - eg. they might have it separated by genres, or by what mood the music reminds them of, or what place they like to play the music in. The 'Folders' tab gives you the same actual folder structure as is on the SD card, I find it quite handy myself, it makes a lot more sense to me because I can specify the structure any way I choose, much easier than making playlists.
The library, on the other hand, is just like PowerAMP tells you when you first tab to it - it's the default Android media library, and is managed by Android, not PowerAMP. It's the traditional media player structure, and sounds like that's what works best for you. If files aren't showing up in the library, you need to get the default Sense media player (Assuming you're on a stock DHD build) to scan that music, because in theory it shouldn't be showing up in the Sense player if it's not in the PowerAMP library. Try restarting the phone, unmounting/remounting the SD card, or downloading a widget that lets you trigger a media scan.
As for the volume, have you tried boosting the 'pre-amp' in the PowerAMP equalizer? The only other media player I'd recommend would be Winamp, don't like DoubleTwist myself.
Hope this helps.

Hi
I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?

eperez said:
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I really do like powerAmp a lot. Specially the folder option, since I can play the music in the exactly order I put in the memory without needing to create a playlist. I tried the trial version an I was about to buy it , but then I found the SRS enhancement option on the default HTC Desire HD player and I really like how the music sounds with that option.
Does somebody know if this feature is or would be available on a future version of poweramp? Are these SRS enhancement and the other option Dolby mobile just digital equialization settings that maybe can be reproduce on the poweramp amplifier, or there is something more that is done by hardware or only possible to be done by HTC?
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I don't see it happening honestly. SRS Labs licenses their technologies, which would make PowerAMP more expensive than it already is. You can probably mess around with the EQ to make the sound similar to SRS I bet.

I'm working on a new music player based on VPlayer, please tell me what do you need?

We are the VPlayer team, and developing a new music player.
Some plans:
Kinds of music format support;
Music video support;
Basic music player operations;
Unique control style;
Support for the disabled;
...
So, what do you want for a music player? Any comment is appreciated

Support not just video, but music as well, so I don't have to have a couple of apps instead of one.
Definetly want to see an equilazer for music, and contrast/brightness settings for video.
Better file browser (smaller icons/labels, more info on files, sorting, bookmarks)
Playlist support.

Any pics of the interface?
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creage said:
Support not just video, but music as well, so I don't have to have a couple of apps instead of one.
Definetly want to see an equilazer for music, and contrast/brightness settings for video.
Better file browser (smaller icons/labels, more info on files, sorting, bookmarks)
Playlist support.
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All these plus
Aspect ratio for video and audio balance i.e left and right levels for music and video

JoeSzymkowicz said:
Any pics of the interface?
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Yes, but the UI has not been completely finished. Please wait for my updating posts. Thanks

1.SPPEDUP without changing pitch, slide with regulation from slow to for example 400% faster.
2.Option for removing silence for example when someone is slowly talker spaces between are long and this is really boring to listen such audio book or smth.
So it would be nice if player would have option to delete silence with regulation like delete when voice db is lower than 3db and delete silence when silence is longer than 200ms etc.
It would be good to listening audiobook.
This player could just prebuffer some music into memory scan it for silence in separate thread and delete it but this is technical so you know it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=921468

creage said:
Support not just video, but music as well, so I don't have to have a couple of apps instead of one.
Definetly want to see an equilazer for music, and contrast/brightness settings for video.
Better file browser (smaller icons/labels, more info on files, sorting, bookmarks)
Playlist support.
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Ok, thank you Creage

FlanFlinger said:
All these plus
Aspect ratio for video and audio balance i.e left and right levels for music and video
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Thanks!

will it also be "free forever"? SCNR.

Equlizer good bass support, a simple lockscreen widget
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flac/ogg support! homescreen/lockscreen widget!

Why ?
Once the finished works for sale
The user on XDA are your guinea pig

HD Video support for all the formats...!!
At least make sure it supports 720p videos..!!

Good UI, some widget and a lockscreen. Not much, but essential.

Music listing by folder!
Just like what Mortplayer does.

link to twitter
can u add up a link to twitter so we can tell ppl what we r listening to?
that would b great. thanks for this brilliant idea

Good looking UI and good looking widgets (multiple widgets even better).
EQ.
Smoothness.
Shake to switch songs?
Gestures

See Audiogalaxy ... copy its streaming abilities from my PC to my phone. But also add support for photos and videos streaming if possible.
Make sure to include a gesture based lock screen widget, exactly like Mixzing has. What is great about their lock screen widget is that it reactivates the screen for a few seconds when a new song starts. That gives you an oprotunity to quickly see what is playing, and swipe to skip to next song if you desire. Great function for when you are driving!
Include an easy to use Playlist creator.
Keep the user interface simple and minimalistic looking. No need for fancy graphics. Simple goes a long way. Make sure the Now Playing section shows the album art as big as you can. We take a lot of time tagging our music with artwork, so we want to see it.
Seriously, see Mixzing's app. They have almost the perfect music player. The only thing it lacks now is streaming abilities. I would like to use it to stream my media from my PC, like I do with Audiogalaxy. I use Audiogalaxy exclusivly now; even though it lacks a lot of the fuctions I really want from Mixzing. Streaming has become that important to me for my media players. Screw the Cloud, give me access to MY pc.

-professional-looking widget (lockscreen and homescreen)
-ID3 Tag Editor (something unlike PowerAMP where you edit tags of music files and becomes unplayable on other music player)
-prominent album art display in now playing screen (but not too big)
-Headphone support
-beautiful UI

screen lock
i have one more thing if some one hasnt already said. SORRY FOR NOT READING THE WHOLE FORUM. can u gyz get the system to lock the screen with a tap on trackball so videos wont keep on skipping while we have our phones in our pocket..plz
sorry for my bad english, i hope u understand what i mean. cheers

[Q] Android music player with replaygain?

Haven't found one yet and hoping someone could give an answer here.
I know PowerAMP has it on a roadmap. Rockbox is supposedly working on an app. Haven't found something that works.
Appreciate your help.

Something that works....
Mp3Gain for the PC. Simply add entire music collection, set level, run job and then copy to phone.

And the kludgy solution it is :/
Thx.

MP3Gain
Hi,
that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
I'm looking for a media player with Replaygain as well.

Ah, I would like this too!

measel said:
that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
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MP3Gain is only lossy in extreme cases, as it merely alters global gain, which is a parameter of the mp3 format. It also adds tags with info, so changes can be undone.
But yes, it's just a workaround and pretty annoying. A player with ReplayGain is needed - hopefully one that can kill the retarded inbuilt compression of many handsets.

mp3gain is a workaround just in cases in which all your collection is in mp3.
As ogg vorbis gives a better quality at same file size, most of my collection is in this format.

Just tried the latest build of rockbox, at
http://audio-life.co.uk/apps/rockbox_android/
Worked for my nexus s, and tried it does support replaygain!
The interface is really kludgy though.

poweramp seems to support replaygain now!
Motorola Defy CM72120121, german Froyo base

measel said:
poweramp seems to support replaygain now!
Motorola Defy CM72120121, german Froyo base
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It is having this issue though:
http://forum.powerampapp.com/index....otificationtextringtone-and-playing-poweramp/

Just to clear up a misconception that seems to have arisen in the thread. Using MP3Gain is not at all detrimental to quality. It doesn't alter the music track at all but instead adds replaygain data to a tag.
There's no 'lossy' to it at all. As for 'kludgy'... in-app, on the fly replaygain will be shockingly bad in comparison to the MP3Gain method.

i just read about mp3gain and there are two methods. one of then does alter the mp3-file but losslessly! and it even creates tags to undo that process. but that only works for mp3. which really is an outdated format.

DirkGently said:
Just to clear up a misconception that seems to have arisen in the thread. Using MP3Gain is not at all detrimental to quality. It doesn't alter the music track at all but instead adds replaygain data to a tag.
There's no 'lossy' to it at all. As for 'kludgy'... in-app, on the fly replaygain will be shockingly bad in comparison to the MP3Gain method.
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I know this is an old thread, but after doing many months of researching, I would not advise using mp3gain, that is of course unless you're sure you want to permanently modify your mp3 files. The "lossless" method does not just simply write tags in the files. It does do that, but that's not all it does. All it writes to the tag is the UNDO information. What happens if you bork your APE metadata and you want to undo it? You're screwed.
Anyway, I'm reviving this thread because I've been struggling in all the years I've had an android device to find a suitable music solution.
Currently, the music player I use that supports ReplayGain is DeaDBeeF. And it's free. Unfortunately, it doesn't load album art correctly. The dev said months and months ago that he was working on it, but I haven't seen any updates. It now has a holo themed UI, but it's not the most attractive, though It's not necessarily ugly (imo).
Winamp supports RG, but only if you pay for the PRO version.
There were other free players on the market that supposedly support RG, but a couple of them had the exact same description while coming from different developers. Seemed shady to me. And most of them looked fairly ugly. The only one I tried had some weird option for controlling the strength of the RG. That seemed odd to me, as the value for RG itself determines the dB. So I had to question whether it was really using the RG values, or doing something kludgy with it.
I wonder how hard RG support is to actually code. If a small, simple player like DB has it built in for free, surely we can add it to Apollo?

measel said:
Hi,
that is a possible workaround but no solution for people with a big database and sense of quality since reencoding means loss of quality and time.
I'm looking for a media player with Replaygain as well.
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Even, 8 thousand sounds is time consuming with this. I have done each artist separately so far with what I got but to keep doing this because a player does not have same volume option on it, and especially 2 out of 3 players does not have this option, is stupid. Especially paid for the apps, and the devs do not even want to bother to add it. Actually, I only asked BlackPlayer dev to add it, and they won't even bother.
They rather spend more time on customizing looks, than adding audio features. It is a freaking audio player ffs. The 3 players I have paid for are Poweramp, Stellio, and BlackPlayer. Currently, using Stellio because the audio is comparable to Poweramp, but not using Poweramp because I was so called patiently waiting for v3 beta, but max is taking forever.
I love the look of Stellio and also the audio set to preset bass&treble is just awesome sounding on the builtin equalizer. With my Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro, I got the media volume limiter set to where it is max volume without going more louder and hurting my ears, which is another nice feature, but the ones that are loud enough maxed are great sounding, until the lower tracks start, and they are not so great at lower volume.
That is why I am after this going to email Stellio dev and ask about adding replaygain or something like Spotify has in settings, under options for enabling same volume for all tracks or songs.

I was going to suggest jetAudio Plus and foobar2000 but don't bother. Those apps are too unstable.

There are a lot of Android players with ReplayGain support:
Omnia, GoneMad, Vanilla Music, foobar2000 Mobile, AIMP, Vinyl Music Player, Pulsar, Oto Music, Poweramp, Neutron Player, PlayerPro, jetAudio, MediaMonkey, FiiO Music, and probably a few more that I don't know of.
All of them can use per-album ReplayGain, those which don't have an option for it in the settings automatically choose it over per-track ReplayGain.
All but jetAudio, MediaMonkey and FiiO Music allow you to reduce loudness for tracks without ReplayGain metadata.

GuestX00320 said:
That is why I am after this going to email Stellio dev and ask about adding replaygain or something like Spotify has in settings, under options for enabling same volume for all tracks or songs.
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I don't think you want what Spotify has in its settings, it ruins audio quality for many songs by raising their volume with the help of dyamic compression.
Because volume levels on Spotify are already quite similar the option is not that useful anyway. That's because Spotify, before reencoding, already does some normalizing. From what I've read they probably set the peaks of all albums to -2dB, then lower the loudness of all albums with a loudness above -14 LUFS to a loudness of -14 LUFS, which means only tracks with huge dynamic range should have non-optimal loudness relative to the other tracks.
I would leave that option off unless you're in a very noisy environment.