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[Q] Choosing an Android phone w/ keyboard: Desire Z/G2 or Droid 2 or other ??

I have to change my phone and my only req. is a hardware keyboard.
I've been a hardcore, diehard Windows Mobile user for over a decade.
I feel forced to go Android because WP7 smells sort of iPhone-esque clone (no file access, no multitasking, no cut/paste, etc...)
To my surprise, I've found there aren't quite a lot of Android devices with keyboard out there
Fortunately, I've seen a couple of interesting soon-to-be-released phones:
The HTC Desire Z / T-Mobile G2 and the Moto Droid 2 WE (world edition) / Milestone 2
Both will have Froyo 2.2, 5MP cam 720p HD video rec, 3.7" multitouch screen & all the standard shizz
G2 / Desire Z advantages:
- It is HTC
- It has Sense onboard, which I am familiar to
Appart from that, and curiously enough, the Droid 2 / Milestone 2 is better in every other aspect:
- Better screen res (854x480 vs 800x480)
- Faster processor (1000MHz vs 800MHz)
- More internal memory (8GB vs 1.5GB)
- Slightly smaller size (60.5 x 116.3 x 13.7 mm vs 60.4 x 119 x 14.2)
- Lighter weigth (169 gr vs 180 gr)
- Slightly bigger battery (1400 mAh vs 1300 mAh)
- Better flash (dual LED vs single LED)
My Q: Which one to go ?? or is there any other device to consider ??
Any advice / oppinion / suggestion appreciated
Data source:
1- http://www.htc.com/www/product/desirez/specification.html
2- http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/X...rvices/Mobile-Phones/ci.Milestone-2-XW-EN.alt

The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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squish099 said:
The claim the g2 benchmarks right with the moto so the processor and gpu might be a wash
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You sure ??
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"Stock Droid 2 running Android 2.2 and crushing any phone on the planet in a Quadrant benchmark. That my friends, is real power."
- Droid Life
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/08/10/droid-2-benchmark-score-drops-jaws/
How could HTC stand such an insult from Moto ??
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There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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squish099 said:
There is benchmark results on androidspin.com
http://androidspin.com/2010/09/09/t-mobile-g2-can-keep-up-with-the-galaxy-s/
Check it out, by the way my hd2 running cm scores 1880 in quadrant.
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Thanks for the link !!
Interesting benchmarks...
And you're right:
I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
Anyway it will not be upgradeable to WP7, and as I stated before, WP7 is expected to be as closed as a religious man's mind
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Android is running great and nand is coming soon. Cotulla posted a bootloader on his web site just waiting for a rom and instructions.
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Other Android-with-keyboard option is the "Motorola Flipout"
Besides the QVGA screen res the device is awesome
(image from Mobile-Geeks)

Sony Ericsson X10 Mini Pro?

Obviously some of you guys haven't read up on Adreno 205 GPU that comes with G2 & its MSM&230. Try reading this article first:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/for...t-compare-to-other-gpus/page__pid__65#entry65
Adreno 205 is going to perform better than PowerVR SGX530 found in Droid X. It may even get pretty close to PowerVR SGX540 found in Sammy's Himmingbird.
Watch out for this table, I'm sure someone will load their Quadrant result as soon as it becomes available:
http://smartphonebenchmarks.com/

gtrab said:
...I'd go for a WM6.5 HTC HD2 if it only had a keyboard...
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If only. It would be the almost perfect device. What have smartphone manufacturers got against big screen qwertys anyway!??!?
(yeah I know there are a couple but, only a couple! The Z's screen is too small so I don't count this. Samsungs Galaxy S Pro? The Galaxy is being slated due to bugs)
edit: I have to be honest though, i'm waiting for WinPho 7 as it appears, walled garden aside, that it could integrate very will with Zune and my Xbox subscription. If it launches and has full and complete MS Ofice/Exchange integration then its very possible I will jump straight on to a Dell Lightning - assuming it records 720p.

Intel Medfield based Lava Xolo X900

Lava has launched the Xolo X900 smartphone which also becomes the first Intel powered smartphone in the world for Rs 22,000.
The device is based on the Intel Medfield reference design and features a 1.6GHz Atom processor, a GPU clocked at 400MHz, a 4.03-inch display with a resolution of 1024×600 pixels, a 8-megapixel camera with 1080p shooting capabilities, NFC and HDMI connectivity. Intel claims the camera can take 10 pictures in under a second in full resolution in burst mode setting. Lava says the device can produce five hours of battery life with 3G browsing and can deliver 45 hours of audio and eight hours of talk time.
The device run stock Android 2.3 and will not ship with the latest version of Android Ice Cream Sandwich. For its part Lava says an OTA Ice Cream Sandwich update is in the works.
The device will be available in India on April 23 at Croma or from Xolo.in, and will hit retail chains in early May.
We are feel happy because it launched in india first

And now: why do you post in O1 forum?
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vlt96 said:
And now: why do you post in O1 forum?
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Dude its a general thread that's why i just want to inform to every one...

Development on XOLO?
Is there anyone here developing for this device or no one has even bothered so far?

I did a YouTube battery life test on my Xolo. Set to auto brightness. Watching the 2 hour, 6 minute 2012 Google I/O took exactly 50% of the battery.
Sent from my HTC One S

I guess people would be a little bit skeptical in buying a 22k lava...

Standby time is pretty sweet. 2 days, 20 hours standby, and 2:15 of screen time.
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The only thing is that it stuck due to brand name of mobile if it will launched with Samsung then it will grab the market rapidly !

now it's available for 17k and an ICS update is now being rolled out,wanted to buy it but it's reviews seem that camera us not upto par with say s2 but considering the pric, it's pretty good deal:thumbup:
and guys i have used it on demo at a shop its of pretty good build and there is no lava branding.
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chrissmartin said:
now it's available for 17k and an ICS update is now being rolled out,wanted to buy it but it's reviews seem that camera us not upto par with say s2 but considering the pric, it's pretty good deal:thumbup:
and guys i have used it on demo at a shop its of pretty good build and there is no lava branding.
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Yeah, the camera is so so, and although standby time was great, screen time was low(2-3 hours).
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[Clone] Galaxy Note 3

Whats everyone's opinion on this clone?
http://www.dhgate.com/product/original-size-note3-n9000-mtk6589-quad-core/171508467.html#a09
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Item specifics
Display Size: 5.7
model: Note 3
ROM: 4GB 1G RAM +4G ROM
RAM: 1G
Display Resolution: 1920x1080
cpu: 1.2GHZ
CPU: Quad Core
Feature: Gravity Response with Touch Screen with MP3 Video Player with FM Radio with WiFi Color Screen with GPS with Bluetooth with Email Smartphone
Camera Pixels: 8.0-12.0MP
Memory Card up to: 32G
Operation System: Android
Sim Card: Single SIM
Network: GSM900 GSM1800 WCDMA GSM1900 GSM850
Recording Definition: 720P
feature: MTK6589 quad core
Language: Portugal Spanish Greece French Chinese Dutch English Turkish Arabic Russian Czech Italian Hebrew
systrem: Android 4.3
Description
Product Name: Original Size Note3 N9000 MTK6589 Quad Core 1.2GHZ Android4.3 Cell Phone 1G RAM 4G ROM With 5.7Inch HD 1080*1920 Screen 12.0MP MD0402 WEIL
Item Code: 171508467
Category: Cell Phones Add to Favorite Categories
Short Description: MTK6589 Quad Core 1.2GHZ android4.3 cell phone with 5.7Inch 1080*1920 Screen single sim card air and eye gesture 12.0MP camera GPS WIFI cell phone note3 N9000
Quantity: 1 Piece
Package Size: 15.0 * 15.0 * 20.0 ( cm )
Gross Weight/Package: 0.7 ( kg )
I apologise if there is already a thread like this or to do with the same subject, i could not find it myself.

NFC?
Still no NFC??

It might be useable but 1gb RAM was why i ditched original Note.
Pay your money & take your choice but my honest opinion is i may only get one life so i buy the best phone i can & that's a genuine one from Samsung.

THL W200 better than this phone.

Augustine02 said:
THL W200 better than this phone.
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Could you link me too it?
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Edit: Found it and its not the best of looking phones haha, i like replica's like the one ive posted. Or the S4 Legend or the GooPhone i5c

ZakBrindle said:
Could you link me too it?
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Edit: Found it and its not the best of looking phones haha, i like replica's like the one ive posted. Or the S4 Legend or the GooPhone i5c
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i bought a clone note3 from coolicool,the price is good and quality is also good in the price.

ZakBrindle said:
Could you link me too it?
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www.thlmobilestore.com I found on the Internet, is designed to sell THL phone.

Kmsl really! U couldn't give that to me.
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Anyone has recieve this clone?? Any reviews?

kirik1983 said:
Anyone has recieve this clone?? Any reviews?
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i have seen a review from Mod Edit: Link removed
you can open this website and find it.

my gps not working.. cant detect any satellite

hi i have a note 3 clone.. with logos in both sides... but all the info of the phone is fake.. i need to know the truth and the which phone is.. cuz i need the original firmware....see the screen shot please an tell me your opinion.

does it have ips?
is it ips?

i have clone
I have some clone which OS is crashed does not gets boot can any one help me to recover it? details are below given
SAMSUNG SM N9006
SYSTEM (Android 4.4)
Model: SM-N9006
Manufacturer: samsung
Device: lcsh72_we_jb3
Product: SM-N9006
Brand: samsung
Android Version: 4.4 (Jelly Bean)
API Level: 17
Build ID: JDQ39
Fingerprint: samsung/lcsh72_we_jb3/lcsh72_we_jb3:4.4/JDQ39/1387620242:user/test-keys

lost sinyal
Hello all ... I want to ask sorry if my english chaotic,
what should I do to be able to normal again samsung note 3 clone that I had, because after I reset my factory gsm signal is lost and find my clone be as before, for the help I thank you very much.

bricked note 3 clone
hello i have an bricked phone and no of the 3 usb ports work my pc doesn't see my phone i plug in and out but nothing and my phone doesn't work no light no sound no nothing i don't know what to do please help...sorry for bad engels i am dutch.

MTK 6589 SM N9600 firmware need
sorry guys for bad english..i have a samsung note 3 clone .. i can't find the firmware for this phone....can you guys help me?
mtk 6589
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Lenovo——The new partner of Qualcomm in China?

My Chinese friends are such big buyers that they seems always have the impulsion to buying out any supermarket in any free perimeters, especially for the electronics. ( e.g. lots of them had purchase the latest Nexus phones and send back to their friends in China)
Compare with people in other regions, Chinese consumers are the better enthusiasts on the high-end smartphones. But what interesting me is although Chinese smartphone brands release their high-end smartphones (based on Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 SoC) frequently, yet the Chinese consumers can barely find those smartphones in the market.
For SAMSUNG and SONY Mobile, they had already help Qualcomm to sold 10million Snapdragon 800 globally. GALAXY Note III have sold over 5 million Pcs(not mention other model of SAMSUNG). SONY Mobile had also sold out over 2 million Snapdragon 800 globally with the model of Togari, Honami, and Amami.
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This chart demonstrates the shipment of Snapdragon 800 SoC smartphones in China: SAMSUNG has sold more than 700K Pcs GALAXY Note III & SONY Mobile has sold more than 150K Pcs Togari and Honami.
What’s surprised me is Lenovo had purchased more than 300K Pcs Snapdragon 800 SoC but they had never release any smartphones based on this chip. This number is such a big number even them are prepared for their new smartphones (K910), Lenovo had never sold any high-end model over 500K pcs in the past.

lenovo used mtk before but it will catch the steps of samsung and sony in the future
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Xiaomi, which is very close with Qualcomm , didn’t purchase any Snapdragon 800 chipsets.

OKCdurant35 said:
Xiaomi, which is very close with Qualcomm , didn’t purchase any Snapdragon 800 chipsets.
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Qualcomm might be pissed off by Xiaomi( their new smartphones will using MTK6589T(Hongmi) and nVIDIA Tegra 4(Xiaomi III), which both are competitors for Qualcomm).
For Qualcomm, it is not a good news that Xiaomi walk close with the Taiwan Chip Supply. However, if they can cooperate with Lenovo in China market, it will definitely help they keep the marketing leader in the Mobile processing chip industry.

XT1543: 1GB instead of 2GB?

Hello guys, i have a question about my Moto G.
I live in Brazil and I bought a Moto G 3rd Gen XT1543 (it said on the site that it was the model with 2GB of RAM and 16GB of storage)
I just saw in the memory tab inside Settings app that my phone only has 1GB of RAM, but has 16Gb of storage.
In the Hardware Information tab in "About the Phone" shows 1Gb as well as in CPU-Z app too.
I'm not understanding very well, is it really that my phone only has 1GB of RAM?
It doesn't have the TV feature that other versions in Brazil has.
Look, in THIS link it specifies that XT1543 is 16/2 and is sold in Brazil.
For Brazilians, I bought here.
Here's a screenshot:
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Edit: oh, another thing that showed me that my device had 2GB of RAM is the "screen protector" that comes with the device, the one that shows some of the phone's features. That said it had 2GB, why is my device only 1GB?
I'm running Marshmallow, I don't know if it changed something during the update (I highly doubt it but you never know)
I'm so frustrated

In mexico i bought the same model and yes it said it was a 2gb but really was a 1gb. That sucks
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Bruno_Puzoni said:
Hello guys, i have a question about my Moto G.
I live in Brazil and I bought a Moto G 3rd Gen XT1543 (it said on the site that it was the model with 2GB of RAM and 16GB of storage)
I just saw in the memory tab inside Settings app that my phone only has 1GB of RAM, but has 16Gb of storage.
In the Hardware Information tab in "About the Phone" shows 1Gb as well as in CPU-Z app too.
I'm not understanding very well, is it really that my phone only has 1GB of RAM?
It doesn't have the TV feature that other versions in Brazil has.
Look, in THIS link it specifies that XT1543 is 16/2 and is sold in Brazil.
For Brazilians, I bought here.
Here's a screenshot:
Edit: oh, another thing that showed me that my device had 2GB of RAM is the "screen protector" that comes with the device, the one that shows some of the phone's features. That said it had 2GB, why is my device only 1GB?
I'm running Marshmallow, I don't know if it changed something during the update (I highly doubt it but you never know)
I'm so frustrated
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Hello,
This is the reason I bought my XT1543 directly from source, Motorola's site.
The Brazilian market is doing a bacchanal with Moto G3 models.
Procon, Cade, Proteste and Idec should sue Brazilian dealers.
The model XT1543 is dual SIM, 16 GB internal memory and 2 GB RAM !

Brazilian here too. I bought from Motorola's website for this very reason. It's the only way to be sure you're getting what you ask.
Did you check the price when you bought? 2gb version is way pricier than 1gb.

Hello,
See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto_G_(3rd_generation)
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Hello,
My XT1543 model:
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Yeah, now I see that is based on luck, haha
I didn 't want to buy on Motorola' site because the price was a little too high for what I could afford.
I bought my Moto G for R$809, which is a very nice price, considering that now is over R$1099