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htc inspire with FAKE hspa+ ??

i have not seen 1 video anywhere showing htc inspire getting REAL hspa+ speed!
my samsung captivate with regular hspa getting better (higher) speed!

I am pretty sure that AT&T hasn't turned on their backhaul yet

JCreazy said:
I am pretty sure that AT&T hasn't turned on their backhaul yet
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then why sent out hspa+ phone (inspire) for bloggers to review when hspa+ is not ready yet!
that is like car company sent out new cars (next year model) to reviewers but without the key! cus the engine is not ready yet?

I think the main purpose is to get the phone out and reviewed before the iPhone 4 goes to verizon. I personally care about battery life and os before it being faster than my current technology.

onthezone said:
I think the main purpose is to get the phone out and reviewed before the iPhone 4 goes to verizon. I personally care about battery life and os before it being faster than my current technology.
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most people want this phone cus it' HSPA+ otherwise if you just care about battery or OS, just get a phone with 1500mzh battery (samsung captivate). haha

Myself could care less about the network speed. Theres a lot more I like about this phone than hsdpa+

HSPA+ is a touchy subject these days. As we all know, all HSPA phones benefit when AT&T and T-Mobile increase their network speeds and backhaul. It really comes down to network congestion and how far away from a tower you are.
I have a friend who's on T-Mobile who gets better download speeds at his work (about 3 miles away from mine) with his Nexus One than I do with my HSPA+ capable T-Mobile G2.
Most older phones are capable of HSPA speeds up to 7 Mbps. So until T-Mobile and AT&T crank up the download speeds to 21 or 42 Mbps, most people will not see much of a difference between HSPA+ phones which are labeled as "4G" and your run-of-the-mill 3G handset.

so it' another ATT BS lie?
on att.com it said "evolve faster with speeds up to 4x faster* then at&t's already fast mobile broadband network"
i have not seen 1 speedtest anywhere that shows inspire able to get real hspa+ speed!
how you know it' not another samsung? (get it? samsung with fake gps, htc inspire with fake hspa+)

I think it hspa+ capable. Yes ATT 4g is probably not fully launched. I also dont get why a 4g phone is released without 4g speed. I get dl speed of 3mbps in Houston. Houston has very good ATT service. Very consistent all areas in Houston. I am very curious how consistent 4g is here in Houston. However when we have 4g it will be a upgrade from 3g. I was planning to wait for the phone til its offered for free. I just don't have the urge to replace my N1.
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netnerd said:
so it' another ATT BS lie?
on att.com it said "evolve faster with speeds up to 4x faster* then at&t's already fast mobile broadband network"
i have not seen 1 speedtest anywhere that shows inspire able to get real hspa+ speed!
how you know it' not another samsung? (get it? samsung with fake gps, htc inspire with fake hspa+)
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The problem is the phone is definetly capable of the faster speeds it is just that AT&T at this time does not offer those speeds. Even with their 3G phones, the phones are very much capable of faster speeds then AT&T networks are putting out.

nickmgray said:
HSPA+ is a touchy subject these days. As we all know, all HSPA phones benefit when AT&T and T-Mobile increase their network speeds and backhaul. It really comes down to network congestion and how far away from a tower you are.
I have a friend who's on T-Mobile who gets better download speeds at his work (about 3 miles away from mine) with his Nexus One than I do with my HSPA+ capable T-Mobile G2.
Most older phones are capable of HSPA speeds up to 7 Mbps. So until T-Mobile and AT&T crank up the download speeds to 21 or 42 Mbps, most people will not see much of a difference between HSPA+ phones which are labeled as "4G" and your run-of-the-mill 3G handset.
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exactly when the HSPA+ gets going all phones 3G and up should see a speed increase.

doctahjeph said:
The problem is the phone is definetly capable of the faster speeds it is just that AT&T at this time does not offer those speeds. Even with their 3G phones, the phones are very much capable of faster speeds then AT&T networks are putting out.
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and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!

netnerd said:
and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!
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netnerd said:
and the samsung galaxy S (captivate) is definitely capable of gps navigation cus it has a gps chip? or maybe the bigger problem is htc inspire has defective hspa+ !!
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lol, no. I am pretty sure it is AT&T's network. You believe what you want though.

doctahjeph said:
lol, no. I am pretty sure it is AT&T's network. You believe what you want though.
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there' a word for that, it' call Denial

netnerd said:
there' a word for that, it' call Denial
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Obvious troll is obvious.
Maybe you should wait for the phone to come out before talking smack about it. Let's see how things pan out after the thing officially launches.

Ok guys arguing about this is pointless. Lets all calm down. Most times when The phones are sent out for review they are just that "Phone Reviews". When the network updates are ready then they will most likely due a new review comparing the 4G networks. There is alot more to a phone then how fast the connection is with the cell provider that can sway some one to decide to buy the phone.
As I can see this as heading to the flame war section I am gonna close this up now.

Post your speeds

Well heres mine.
Was connected to HSDPA 2.55mb down and .29 up......rather slow.

3.54 down and 1.6 up
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We should see a solid difference once the backhaul work is done. It will display the h+ anywhere there's 3g.

borguesian said:
3.54 down and 1.6 up
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H+ or HSDPA?

Hsdpa
blaze0303 said:
H+ or HSDPA?
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Running the attn1's ROM
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not bad, i could get those speeds from my nexus one but not my inspire...very uninspiring

Stock
2120 kbps Down
108 kbps Up
I can wait to root this thing!

On HSDPA I am hitting 3.3 down and 370k up.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G

Did anyone else realize that the bottom cover is actually the phones antenna? I just figured that out...

On HSPDA used the FCC app to run the test... 3.02mbps down, 0.29mbps up

Seeing these speeds are scaring me away from switching from T-Mobile to AT&T. On T-Mobile I get 4.70 mbps download and 1.32mbps upload on a Nexus One on hspa (3g) and not hspa+ (4g). Damn I want a new phone already, the inspire is a great piece on hardware!

sir*mez said:
Seeing these speeds are scaring me away from switching from T-Mobile to AT&T. On T-Mobile I get 4.70 mbps download and 1.32mbps upload on a Nexus One on hspa (3g) and not hspa+ (4g). Damn I want a new phone already, the inspire is a great piece on hardware!
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None of us seem to be on hspa+ either. It seems it may not be truly turned on til march.
Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G

"4G Evolution
AT&T has deployed HSPA+ to virtually 100% of our nation's fastest mobile broadband network, which enables 4G speeds when combined with enhanced backhaul. We are rapidly expanding enhanced backhaul to cell sites throughout the country, adding new cell sites weekly."
Something isn't right here. I've gotten of 3mb/s on my captivate.

The enhanced backhaul part is what's gonna get you higher speeds. It's not a new network or anything. Once it's done in a given area it also has to be "flipped on". That's pretty much what we're waiting for.

I've gotten up to 3000 down, 1900 up on my rooted captivate at my home cell site, but haven't broken 1600 down and 500 up on the non-rooted stock Inspire at the same place.

I have a rooted Captivate running Cognition and my Inspire is testing faster. You can run the test 30 sec apart and get wildly different results though.

im getting 3453 down and 423 up on HSPA+

Where is you location? Your the first with hspa+
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which speed test website r u guys using? and which program to test speed? on opera i get like 6k down n on stock internet i get like 4k down. im in DC. im pretty sure opera compresses the website so it makes it move faster but idk. mine is pretty fast. especially @ night.
i use mobilespeedtest.com
on speedtest.net i got 3.44mbps down and .26mbps up. first try
4.17, .29 second try.

How to utilize 3G bands and not 4G....

Hey guys!
Is there a way we can disable the 4G connection and only use 3G? Any help that you guys can as provide will be greatly appreciated!

There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G

Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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4G LTE = LTE (our phone doesn't support it)
4G = 3G + extra stuff to be better... but still techically 4G as it's AT&T's 4th generation of technology
3G = 3G
But I don't think that there's a way you can disable "4G" and only use 3G... you can disable 3G/4G and only use 2G though.

ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Shaliuno said:
There is no 4G in Atrix2. Is just a marketing ATT does.
4G = 3G
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my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.

matt99017d said:
my wifes iphone 4 must suck then.
hers is a "3g" and gets about 1.25 mbps
my atrix 2 4G gets 4.45 mbps
i think 4g is a bunch faster than 3g.....
or its just that the iphone a generally crap.
take your pick i suppose.
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Well it's both really .
But our phone is about as fast as you can get on AT&T's network without using LTE. The OG Atrix also was "4G" but it was only 14.x mb/sec while our A2's radio supports up to 21.x mb/sec (or something around there). The iPhone X's only support 3G.

extide said:
ATRIX 2 supports 21mbit hspa+ that's what they call 4G. 3g is really just slower versions of hspa+ for us. Post above is correct about LTE. LTE is better than hspa+ also.
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Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.

cowenby said:
Not too sure what you guys are meaning when you say better....
I was interested in the differences a while back and after researching around quite a bit, found that the speeds really depended on the phone's programming more so than whether it was LTE or HSPA+.
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LTE has higher bandwidth, and is less populated. HSPA+ can go up to 21mbit, yes, (which is less than LTE) BUT most AT&T HSPA+ deployments are 7mbit or 14mbit.
HSPA+ users typically see ~4-5mbit or so, maybe up to 7mbit on a 14.4mbit cell, but LTE users typically can see 9-11mbit+.
The best speedtest I have ever gotten on my phone was in the 5mbit range. SLC only has 7mbit HSPA+ from what I can tell, and since AT&T is going to LTE, it appears they wont be upgrading the HSPA+ network any more.

you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.

mtnlion said:
you're lucky. Around my area all you can get is 2-3 mbs.
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Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.

Yeah, "4G" is actually HSPA+, which AT&T actually was going to call 3G+. The 4G crap came around because T-Mobile marketed it that way and if AT&T stuck with 3G+ they took the risk of people thinking T-Mobile was faster and losing customers. LTE was what they planned to call 4G.

extide said:
Thats what I usually get too, but if I am right near a cell tower I can get the ~5mbit speeds.
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Yeah, i'm in Orlando and normally getting 2-4 mbps...
I visited Boston a few Weeks ago and was getting 13!!!!!
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Their hspa+ is like 3.5 g its def better then reg 3g
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I feel as if their labeling of 4g was a bit deceiving as well but its understandable if it was meant to keep up with TMobile because of all the confusion between 4g and 4g lte.
The good news is that I don't believe our 4g is as battery-consuming as 4g lte, its probably about the same as regular 3g.
If you're wanting to limit it to 2g though there is a way to do it even though the menu is left out from our 'Settings'. Use anycut to get to network settings directly and choose GSM only.

At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.

Ajfink said:
At least T-Mobile's HSPA+ is significantly faster than "3G" - not an entirely undeserved title for them. ATT...not so much.
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i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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kwiggington said:
i got 13mbs on at&t so it works good for me
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That's pretty good. Max I've seen is 11mbit down.
I didn't believe it at first so I reran the speedtest a couple times to make sure.

Mine has topped out around 9Mbps, sadly.
It's not throughput that's bad on a decent 3G network, a lot of time's it's the latency. Meh. Whatever. Long live LTE.

I ran just ran the speedtest.net app and I have 7.20 mbps down and 1.13 up here in Atlanta. Thats even better than basic dsl albiet cable beats it easily....

T-Mobile (USA) - Moto G Question

I've had my Moto G since launch (well accounting for the delayed shipping), but I am new to T-Mobile having switched from Sprint. Of course, I know our 'G' doesn't have LTE, but my HSPA+ speeds are pretty damned good with no issues whatsoever when connected to HSPA/HSPA+.
HOWEVER, and this is a big one, outside of any moderate sized community I get EDGE or less with absolutely NO data connection. None. I know EDGE is slower, but when I had my iPhone on AT&T I did at least have some data connection on EDGE despite its slow speed. With T-Mobile it's as if I'm not connected to anything at all. Voice works fine as does texting, but it's like my data connection is completely shut off.
I know EDGE is slow, but I should at least be getting some data....right?

I'm newbie to android but old timer with TMO. I think it's more their lack of coverage and not anything wrong with the Moto G.

sicembaylor said:
I've had my Moto G since launch (well accounting for the delayed shipping), but I am new to T-Mobile having switched from Sprint. Of course, I know our 'G' doesn't have LTE, but my HSPA+ speeds are pretty damned good with no issues whatsoever when connected to HSPA/HSPA+.
HOWEVER, and this is a big one, outside of any moderate sized community I get EDGE or less with absolutely NO data connection. None. I know EDGE is slower, but when I had my iPhone on AT&T I did at least have some data connection on EDGE despite its slow speed. With T-Mobile it's as if I'm not connected to anything at all. Voice works fine as does texting, but it's like my data connection is completely shut off.
I know EDGE is slow, but I should at least be getting some data....right?
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Which version of the Moto G do you have? The global or US version? The global version will get Edge a lot more than the US version since T-Mobile hasn't refarmed every area yet. And yes, data on Edge is hit or miss. Sometimes it can be usable and sometimes not at all.

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Which version of the Moto G do you have? The global or US version? The global version will get Edge a lot more than the US version since T-Mobile hasn't refarmed every area yet. And yes, data on Edge is hit or miss. Sometimes it can be usable and sometimes not at all.
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US GSM

My moto g on tmo gets faster data speeds at my house then my WiFi but I am rooted with paranoid android
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saintextreme97 said:
My moto g on tmo gets faster data speeds at my house then my WiFi but I am rooted with paranoid android
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HSPA or EDGE?
My HSPA/+ speeds are phenomenal so long as I have HSPA. Essentially, the only time I have a data connection is with HSPA. Otherwise, it's completely dead.

sicembaylor said:
HSPA or EDGE?
My HSPA/+ speeds are phenomenal so long as I have HSPA. Essentially, the only time I have a data connection is with HSPA. Otherwise, it's completely dead.
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Well maybe its the service in your area I live in the country and get 8mbs+ but when I go into town I get .5-1.5mbs(yes on H+) so its all about where you are
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Wifi and Cellular performance in the US?

I had a Mediapad X1 in the US and the Wifi seemed to be really bad. it was very picky about what Wifi access points it would connect to and when it did the performance was not that great.
The Cellular network (HSPA+) wasn't as bad but still had its issues too. Just seemed like the radio firmware for the US market wasn't really that good.
For you US folks, has the radio's in the X2 been working pretty well?

omniphil said:
I had a Mediapad X1 in the US and the Wifi seemed to be really bad. it was very picky about what Wifi access points it would connect to and when it did the performance was not that great.
The Cellular network (HSPA+) wasn't as bad but still had its issues too. Just seemed like the radio firmware for the US market wasn't really that good.
For you US folks, has the radio's in the X2 been working pretty well?
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I had the the ascend mate 2 and it had great cell signal with 4g lte and the honor x2 has great cell cell signal with hspa+. I had the blu 6.0 hd lte, the asus memo pad x, and the verizon note 3 which was was working on 3g with a at&t in it. Where I stay the huawei honor x2 beat them hands down with no problem. 2 to 3 bars while the the blu barely gets a signal, and the memo dropped calls, and the note 3 started in 3g but would reduce to 2g alot with 1 bar alot. The memo and blu would do 4g lte some times (25%) but no need when I have comcast at home. And that is the main reason why I stick with huawei phones.

omniphil said:
I had a Mediapad X1 in the US and the Wifi seemed to be really bad. it was very picky about what Wifi access points it would connect to and when it did the performance was not that great.
The Cellular network (HSPA+) wasn't as bad but still had its issues too. Just seemed like the radio firmware for the US market wasn't really that good.
For you US folks, has the radio's in the X2 been working pretty well?
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For what it's worth, I get a better signal on my Mediapad X2 than I get on my Nexus 6. I generally have a better signal on the X2. Wifi seems like it's on par with every other phone I've owned. T-Mobile's HSPA+ is pretty fast. I don't miss having LTE at all honestly.

Ok, good to know. Maybe my X1 was just bad or something. Wifi would stall and disconnect all the time....
Thanks!