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Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
The Newest apps I downloaded were comicbook reader, Spotify and Netflix, but that shouldn’t matter right? Because my mobile data is off
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
voxigenboy said:
that sounds about average to me. since its stock, i would just put Juice Defender on it and leave it set to "balanced", then see where youre at battery wise.
additionally, you could try Watchdog to see if theres any background apps that are consuming a ton of cpu(it can happen)
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Thanks alot man..will get those apps and report back in a few days
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
mbrown3460 said:
Funny thing is this seems like its just started out of nowhere. I had my phone since launch and never had this problem.
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do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
i had that happen to my old Galaxy S 4G & when i went to get a new battery they confirmed that that was the culprit.
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no only charge my phone on the wall or PC. Wow I didnt know I can leave my phone plugged I thought my battery would be damaged if I left it plugged in.
jbh00jh said:
You need to go into settings/ power/ and uncheck fast reboot . It runs all the time and eats up battery.
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fast reboot is not checked in my settings.
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
yareally said:
phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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Yep TWS is the biggest culprit of battery drainage on these Android phones. If you're in a poor reception area, you're SOL because the phone will eat through the battery searching for a signal. I have an Epic and have similar battery drain issues due to this.
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phone idle isnt as important as the time it says it's without a signal. if you arent getting a signal, it's looking for one and really really draining the battery
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hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I dont know whats going on. I am running stock.
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First, you should seriously consider rooting, then flash a custom rom & kernel. The stock rom is no battery sipper, and custom roms & kernels are much more efficient. I was getting ridiculous overnight drain (>20%) on stock, but now I'm getting only 1% per hour (6-8%). Also, grab Autostarts from the market. It prevents unnecessary apps from launching in the background & wasting battery (& memory)
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mbrown3460 said:
hmmm you might be on to something. Don't get good reception at home and my reception is ok at work, not perfect tho.
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It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
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It'll show in the about stats when you press on the phone usage stats how long it was without a signal if you want to look (in case you weren't aware). Also I would make sure your phone is set to use wifi when sleeping always and not mobile (under wifi settings → press menu → go to advanced).
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My mobile data off when I'm at work. So pulled my phone off at 6 am, made one call, checked my email and now I'm down to 93 percent. This is just ridiculous seems like my battery getting worst by the day.
I'm at home now on WiFi...my mobile data is usually off all day at work. Watch dog only alerted me to dolphin browser and I always close that out when I'm finished. I don't know what's going on.
Why do I need to baby sit my phone to get good battery life?
voxigenboy said:
do you ever charge your phone in your car?
i know when you charge it via a wall charger or your PC, there's overcharge protection so realistically you can leave it "plugged in" as long as you'd like.
apparently though, if it gets fully charged and you still leave it plugged in in your car it can eventually do some damage to the battery and eventually kill it.
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This is not correct. The battery charge is controlled by the phone itself. the battery also has some electronics in it to limit the charge. The car charger provides 5 volts just like any USB port. You can (and I have) leave phone plugged into a car charger with no issues.
It is true that you should avoid charging the phone when it is HOT. So leaving it in a HOT car or any place HOT is a bad idea.
Checked the settings and my phone is using 3% battery life while it is idle. So I shouldn't be losing so much power. Is my battery damaged?
Yep, backing this guy up. The battery has it built in where it'll cut off the charge after it's full- and android has it that after it reaches 100% it'll let it drain down to ~90% because keeping it at 100% for extended periods of time is bad for the battery health.
For those more interested in your phone's battery and how charging works, check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
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If you're losing battery life when you're idle you have a few main reasons.
- First check to make sure you have a low min. set for your CPU, you don't want to have your CPU rev'd all the way up all the time- it's just not good.
- Download "spare parts" and check under "battery history" and you'll be able to see if you have a lot of GPS usage, data usage, CPU usage, etc.
- I'm not sure if mobile data turns both 4G and 3G off. I know the 4G here totally demolishes the battery, even more if you don't have it in your area.
If you don't have 4G and would like to save your battery from a painful death, do this (easy to change back)
*#*#4636#*#* -- Go to "Phone Settings" >> change to "CDMA auto (PRL)"
This will turn off 4G and stop it from searching, while still allowing you to use 3G and not have to turn off all data.
Hope at least one of those points helped you out and hope you get some better life because that's pretty bad, shouldn't be normal.
mbrown3460 said:
Hello everybody, I notice lately my phone is losing about 10 percent battery life every 2 hours while it is idle. The funny thing is I have data off no text message and made one phone call. I don’t know what’s going on. I am running stock.
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Losing 5%/hour is normal for my phone when it's sitting doing nothing. The battery is a joke. I have Juice Defender Ultimate and that brings it down to maybe 2-3%/hour.
I have a coworker thats got horrible battery life on his Charge. I've read through the forum about charginging and charging and charging untill the battery percentage is at 100% then reset the battery cache.
For the life of me, I can't get this thing into simple Android Recovery to reset the battery stats. I've tried holding down the volume button while powering on with and without the power cord and also plugged in to the cpu. The only thing it does is give me the big yellow warning triangle about downloading. Is there something I'm leaving out or possibly not tried yet? This Charge is bone stock and plain jane. No tweaks at all. Any help is greatly appreciated!
Deleting battery stats does nothing for your battery life. It is cleared when you unplug the phone at full charge anyway.
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Gotcha. Thank you both!!
My reason for asking is that this thing drinks battery juice like its going out of style. He can have the phone at full charge and power off, 3 hours later he turns it back off and its already at 60 percent.
I will add that after doing the charge and charge and charge again repeatedly, that it has helped. He doesn't have any apps on his phone that he's downloaded and really dont know anything about that.
It just blows me away at how bad the phone won't hold a charge
I'm assuming he isn't rooted. Most likely, there's an app that's keeping the phone from sleeping, but without rooting, it'll be hard to tell. I usually recommend a combination of CPU Spy and Better Battery Stats to diagnose the problem, but without root, there's not a lot that can be done other than turning down the frequency of updates and trial and error to find misbehaving apps.
True. I was thinking an app or something along the line of that too. But initially I asked about that and the guy didn't even know what the Market is......
It's not rooted. The only difference from the way it is to having it turned on in the Verizon store is, well, its just that lol.
It boggles my mind as to why the phone looses a charge and the power isn't even on. There is a very noticeable difference in just over 3 hours of the power being off from a full charge.
Try another battery. I started having problems and a new battery solved them. If nothing else, it proves your battery is good or bad, as well as giving you a backup when the primary is discharged.
My guess is that he's in a fringe 4G area and the radios are struggling for signal, which can cause a large amount of battery loss.
The facebook app drains alot of battery n i think it comes with stock.
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Cilraaz said:
My guess is that he's in a fringe 4G area and the radios are struggling for signal, which can cause a large amount of battery loss.
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This is what I would expect too. When the phone is on the border of a 4g area and constantly switching between 4g/3g, the battery gets drained rather quickly.
You say the phone loses battery when the power is off? Do you mean the phone is completely powered down, or just the screen is off? If the phone is completely off and the battery is draining, then it's time for a new battery. If just the screen is off, then it's either the radio doing the damage, or a rogue app. The problem is, like other have said, that you have to be rooted to really pinpoint what is causing the issue. If you are not rooted, a rogue app can easily be discovered in the stock battery stats by charging completely before bed and letting the phone sit overnight. Ideally you should be getting a 1-2% drop per hour while the phone is idle. If there is an app eating battery in the background, it will be high on the list when you wake up.
I can't stress enough how much a good kernel can help with battery life. Imnuts did a great job with PBJ and I'm reaping the benefits . I'm not on my phone all that much, but this is typical battery life for me (about 1:30 hrs of screen on time):
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Does your friend have wifi. That helps a lot.
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How is everyone's battery life after the MM update? Improved, same or worse?
Also, Doze is not working at all for me. I left my phone unplugged over night for 6 hours and lost 30-35% of my battery. That is far worse than it was on Lollipop. I did a factory reset after the update too, as I always do. WiFi scanning is off. I noticed my Android OS usage was really high when I woke up too. See attached image.
No problems for me.
Mine is really good. When idle, I'm only losing about 25 mAh.. I'm also using Greenify non root method.
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Mines $hit! Even worse than before. I did a factory reset after update to mm. 5% drain per ~10min
Lost ~2% overnight.
Yeah. I lost 5% since 7AM this morning. That was almost 5 hours ago.
I just posted this on another thread. This may help.
1) Under Wi-Fi advanced settings, change sleep policy to "Charge Only"
2) Go to Locations -> Improve Accuracy. Make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off. This setting was moved here under MM
3) Charge the phone to 100%, let it run to 0. DO NOT CHARGE IT! It must power itself off. Charge it back up.
This had a dramatic result on my battery.
Please stop spreading false information.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
False information? Kind of an ass thing to say, but suit yourself. Just telling folks what I did to FIX this issue as well as what has been posted on many other sites.
Some people find it easier to criticize those that try to help than offering solutions of their own.
jasong127 said:
I just posted this on another thread. This may help.
1) Under Wi-Fi advanced settings, change sleep policy to "Charge Only"
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Steamer86 said:
Please stop spreading false information.
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
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I'm getting confused. Can someone please tell me what each of the three settings below from the S6 on Marshmallow actually does in terms of radio(s) used and sleep states? The wording of this setting is different in different builds of Android, and I'd like to know what each setting does specifically for the S6 on Marshmallow.
Always (Increases battery consumption)
While charging
Never (Increases data usage)
Here's the Android documentation if that helps.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY
The policy for deciding when Wi-Fi should go to sleep (which will in turn switch to using the mobile data as an Internet connection).
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_DEFAULT
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to use the default Wi-Fi sleep policy, which is to sleep shortly after the turning off according to the STAY_ON_WHILE_PLUGGED_IN setting.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_NEVER
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to never go to sleep.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_NEVER_WHILE_PLUGGED
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to use the default policy when the device is on battery, and never go to sleep when the device is plugged in.
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source official Android developer documentation
jasong127 said:
False information? Kind of an ass thing to say, but suit yourself. Just telling folks what I did to FIX this issue as well as what has been posted on many other sites.
Some people find it easier to criticize those that try to help than offering solutions of their own.
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I'm not using any criticism nor is it an ass thing to say, just fact.The cellular radios uses more battery than wifi and even more when switching networks. A full discharge damages Li batteries. On a clean phone wifi always on WILL save some juice. At night, airplane mode will greatly reduce drain if you don't mind having no connection.
I'm happy it worked for you, however, bad information. Some simple research will tell you that. I see a 1 to 3 percent night drain on a clean phone with wifi always on, no scan, mobile data off. Hell, thats even with google pinging my old address from router on maps timeline.
@RylanM I know it says more consumption, but research and decide for yourself.
Hi! I would like to ask something. As you can see, I've observed this for the past few months. My battery keeps on being drained by my phone. I've charged it 100%, I left it untouch and my battery goes back to 76%. Well yes, mobile data is on.
Another observation I made when a thunderstorm comes, I turned my phone's airplaine mode on (it might get struck by lightning because of the signals and such... ). So, airplane mode was on for the past few hours, and my battery stays the same.
Could the wrong thing be in my battery? Or there's a "battery leak" somewhere in my phone? It might be the SIM's system or what. I need your opinion so it could guide me if I need to buy a new battery or just reconfigure my phone. Thanks!
Hello,
To better assist you, please post your device model number and I will guide you to where you may find your answer. Thank you.
I have all the bells and whistles turned off, uninstalled a ton of bloatware via ADB commands, and everything's been fine - great battery life. But then I charged up to 100% last night and when I awoke it was at 80%, then by 12 noon i was at 64% and this was with battery saver turned on. I checked battery usage and nothing was amiss. I don't get it, how is my battery draining so fast when I'm not even using it? There wasn't any firmware update, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is.
So I reset the phone and set it up again, charged it back to 100%, then lost 4% in 90 minutes without even touching it. I'm guessing it's a hardware/battery problem.
Anyone else having this issue?
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Google backup Transport and Playstore are dependencies of it. Backup Transport can do this. Normally I keep Play Services disabled unless I need it.
blackhawk said:
Try temporarily disabling Google play Services.
Google backup Transport and Playstore are dependencies of it. Backup Transport can do this. Normally I keep Play Services disabled unless I need it.
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I've just charged to 100%, heading to bed. If I wake up and I have excessive drain again, I'm going to try your suggestion. Thanks for the tip!
Well still had huge battery drain with play services disabled. I factory reset yet again, removed all the bloatware I could, yet a charge to 100% is down to 94% after 2 hours of just sitting on table. I got a lemon. This is a straight talk pre-pay phone, so I'm not sure what to do next.
mewcatchew said:
Well still had huge battery drain with play services disabled. I factory reset yet again, removed all the bloatware I could, yet a charge to 100% is down to 94% after 2 hours of just sitting on table. I got a lemon. This is a straight talk pre-pay phone, so I'm not sure what to do next.
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Disabling Google play Services may not fully stop the Backup Transport drain....
You need to find the apps causing the power drain, this is common on Samsung's.
Disable adaptive battery and the other power management junk*.
Factory resets are generally worthless; you need to find the root causes!!!
Disable only apps that are proven power hogs or are just to terrible to look at like Digital Wellbeing. If you disable a service needed by an app it may constantly keep polling for it. Use discression on what is removed.
Install a logging firewall if you can or otherwise see what apps are using bandwidth. Kill by altering their settings ie no background data/battery.
All cloud apps will likely be hogs. Social media apps shouldn't be on the device. Activate Developer options and use its tools. Use the tools in Device Care.
Turn off all Google, Samsung and carrier feedback. Android 12 may give tracking tools as well, I don't run anything higher than 10.
For logging firewall, there's this one I'm using nowadays. Show you how many requests all your apps do (spoiler : it's a lot)
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For logging firewall, there's this one I'm using nowadays. Show you how many requests all your apps do (spoiler : it's a lot)
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I have no idea what im looking at with that app. I'm losing 2% battery per hour overnight with it sitting on my nightstand. The only things i see being used is "google play store" , " play services". "netd" & weather. I don't see anything out of the ordinary.
I did a factory reset yesterday, removed all the bloat (disabled or uninstalled) everything not needed that the phone would let me. I used ADB to set RAM + to zero only. This drain started 2 days ago and there's been no updates so I'm at a loss & actually think its a hardware problem. Phone is only 3 weeks old. I contacted Straight talk and they said I have send phone in and they'll send me a used one once they get it. I'm pissed.
I hope you are aware of the risks with uninstalling "bloatware" with ADB. This may result in problems. Return the phone to default (factory reset) to get all back and only remove stuff you can without using ADB.
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I hope you are aware of the risks with uninstalling "bloatware" with ADB. This may result in problems. Return the phone to default (factory reset) to get all back and only remove stuff you can without using ADB.
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You can temporarily screw up the OS but nothing that can't be reversed it with a factory data reset, which I did. Anyway, it was fine. Let's just say I may have dropped it from waist height and that's when this battery drain came up. I have it in a UAG case and a glass screen protector (I've dropped my iPhone much worse about 50 times and never had an issue). The phone and the case are in mint condition, it shouldn't be malfunctioning from a 3 foot fall on a sheet vinyl floor with a case on it. But it is. Maybe its just my unit, but this is a fragile phone.
If you're in an area with a poor cell signal, your smartphone will try to connect to the nearest cell tower and drain your battery quickly. I thought there was an issue with my Pixel 6 battery but after buying an iPhone 13, I later found out that poor cell signal does drain your battery rather quickly.
Try enabling WiFi Calling and choose WiFi as your preference, then enable Airplane Mode with just WiFi turned on. This is what I do when I'm at home and then turn off Airplane mode when I'm out and about (obviously).
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If you're in an area with a poor cell signal, your smartphone will try to connect to the nearest cell tower and drain your battery quickly. I thought there was an issue with my Pixel 6 battery but after buying an iPhone 13, I later found out that poor cell signal does drain your battery rather quickly.
Try enabling WiFi Calling and choose WiFi as your preference, then enable Airplane Mode with just WiFi turned on. This is what I do when I'm at home and then turn off Airplane mode when I'm out and about (obviously).
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That's not true itself. I'm in a poor cell area and normally only see 4% drain overnight with phones over the years. This is the amount I expect, no more. If any phone ever sees 10% or more overnight then it has a problem either software or hardware.
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I have all the bells and whistles turned off, uninstalled a ton of bloatware via ADB commands, and everything's been fine - great battery life. But then I charged up to 100% last night and when I awoke it was at 80%, then by 12 noon i was at 64% and this was with battery saver turned on. I checked battery usage and nothing was amiss. I don't get it, how is my battery draining so fast when I'm not even using it? There wasn't any firmware update, so I'm at a loss as to what the issue is.
So I reset the phone and set it up again, charged it back to 100%, then lost 4% in 90 minutes without even touching it. I'm guessing it's a hardware/battery problem.
Anyone else having this issue?
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I've seen this with my last Samsung but 1-3 reboots in a row always fixes it for a week or two. Normally only needs 1 reboot a week. Its in a system installed app or code.
However, battery drains can be caused by literally anything lol. Any app can cause it. Any system app can cause it. Even the OS can cause it. It could be in anything technically.
Batteries can go bad but you'd likely see something else happening if the battery was going bad or if the fall did it. I really don't think that's the issue here but suppose if it is then you have an odd situation where the battery drains from 100% to 0% smoothly.
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That's not true itself. I'm in a poor cell area and normally only see 4% drain overnight with phones over the years. This is the amount I expect, no more. If any phone ever sees 10% or more overnight then it has a problem either software or hardware.
I've seen this with my last Samsung but 1-3 reboots in a row always fixes it for a week or two. Normally only needs 1 reboot a week. Its in a system installed app or code.
However, battery drains can be caused by literally anything lol. Any app can cause it. Any system app can cause it. Even the OS can cause it. It could be in anything technically.
Batteries can go bad but you'd likely see something else happening if the battery was going bad or if the fall did it. I really don't think that's the issue here but suppose if it is then you have an odd situation where the battery drains from 100% to 0% smoothly.
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No, it was dropped from 3 feet onto a sheet vinyl floor, no visible damage but that's when it started. Something internally got messed up. It took a month but Straight Talk sent me a new A53, and no battery drain at all now. Straight Talk is another issue...smh
Oh, I didn't notice the data gap with the last reply just made last week lol.
Really though a phone replacement doesn't mean it wasn't software. I'm an app developer and can't even go simply based on that.
Is it possible to have a smoothly draining battery from a drop? Probably in some rare weirdly odd corner of the universe lol. Maybe you did find the corner.
At least its solved anyway. That's really all that counts.
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Oh, I didn't notice the data gap with the last reply just made last week lol.
Really though a phone replacement doesn't mean it wasn't software. I'm an app developer and can't even go simply based on that.
Is it possible to have a smoothly draining battery from a drop? Probably in some rare weirdly odd corner of the universe lol. Maybe you did find the corner.
At least its solved anyway. That's really all that counts.
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Yeah, the small drop was definitely the issue; Wi-Fi was not connecting or not staying connected. It wasn't software, I reset the device and same issue. It must've popped Wi-Fi antenna loose or caused a short somewhere. New phone and now I lose 1 - 2% overnight. Now to unlock it from straight Talk.