Battery Life Discussion after Marshmallow Update - Doze not working? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S6

How is everyone's battery life after the MM update? Improved, same or worse?
Also, Doze is not working at all for me. I left my phone unplugged over night for 6 hours and lost 30-35% of my battery. That is far worse than it was on Lollipop. I did a factory reset after the update too, as I always do. WiFi scanning is off. I noticed my Android OS usage was really high when I woke up too. See attached image.

No problems for me.

Mine is really good. When idle, I'm only losing about 25 mAh.. I'm also using Greenify non root method.
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Mines $hit! Even worse than before. I did a factory reset after update to mm. 5% drain per ~10min

Lost ~2% overnight.

Yeah. I lost 5% since 7AM this morning. That was almost 5 hours ago.

I just posted this on another thread. This may help.
1) Under Wi-Fi advanced settings, change sleep policy to "Charge Only"
2) Go to Locations -> Improve Accuracy. Make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off. This setting was moved here under MM
3) Charge the phone to 100%, let it run to 0. DO NOT CHARGE IT! It must power itself off. Charge it back up.
This had a dramatic result on my battery.

Please stop spreading false information.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.

False information? Kind of an ass thing to say, but suit yourself. Just telling folks what I did to FIX this issue as well as what has been posted on many other sites.
Some people find it easier to criticize those that try to help than offering solutions of their own.

jasong127 said:
I just posted this on another thread. This may help.
1) Under Wi-Fi advanced settings, change sleep policy to "Charge Only"
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Steamer86 said:
Please stop spreading false information.
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
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I'm getting confused. Can someone please tell me what each of the three settings below from the S6 on Marshmallow actually does in terms of radio(s) used and sleep states? The wording of this setting is different in different builds of Android, and I'd like to know what each setting does specifically for the S6 on Marshmallow.
Always (Increases battery consumption)
While charging
Never (Increases data usage)
Here's the Android documentation if that helps.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY
The policy for deciding when Wi-Fi should go to sleep (which will in turn switch to using the mobile data as an Internet connection).
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_DEFAULT
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to use the default Wi-Fi sleep policy, which is to sleep shortly after the turning off according to the STAY_ON_WHILE_PLUGGED_IN setting.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_NEVER
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to never go to sleep.
WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY_NEVER_WHILE_PLUGGED
Value for WIFI_SLEEP_POLICY to use the default policy when the device is on battery, and never go to sleep when the device is plugged in.
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source official Android developer documentation

jasong127 said:
False information? Kind of an ass thing to say, but suit yourself. Just telling folks what I did to FIX this issue as well as what has been posted on many other sites.
Some people find it easier to criticize those that try to help than offering solutions of their own.
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I'm not using any criticism nor is it an ass thing to say, just fact.The cellular radios uses more battery than wifi and even more when switching networks. A full discharge damages Li batteries. On a clean phone wifi always on WILL save some juice. At night, airplane mode will greatly reduce drain if you don't mind having no connection.
I'm happy it worked for you, however, bad information. Some simple research will tell you that. I see a 1 to 3 percent night drain on a clean phone with wifi always on, no scan, mobile data off. Hell, thats even with google pinging my old address from router on maps timeline.
@RylanM I know it says more consumption, but research and decide for yourself.

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Battery life tweak

I was lurking over at the sprint hero board and came across an interesting thread. People are noticing an increase in battery life when the set the wifi settings for sleep to Never.
Seems like what is happening, as soon as the phone blanks out, WIFI is turned of and the phone is switched to EVDO mode. which drains battery. If your in a bad coverage area your battery drains even faster.
Some people are talking about a performance increase as well, but I think what they are seeing is the phone not having to cycle back to wifi everytime they touch the phone.
Treefallingquietly said:
I was lurking over at the sprint hero board and came across an interesting thread. People are noticing an increase in battery life when the set the wifi settings for sleep to Never.
Seems like what is happening, as soon as the phone blanks out, WIFI is turned of and the phone is switched to EVDO mode. which drains battery. If your in a bad coverage area your battery drains even faster.
Some people are talking about a performance increase as well, but I think what they are seeing is the phone not having to cycle back to wifi everytime they touch the phone.
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Interesting, but is this for those who always have wifi enabled (I never use it)? I'll try anything to get more from my battery since I can barely squeeze out about a day (18 hours) from my phone even with the sms workaround implemented.
I'm looking in the wifi settings and don't see any options for "wifi sleep".
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Interesting, but is this for those who always have wifi enabled (I never use it)? I'll try anything to get more from my battery since I can barely squeeze out about a day (18 hours) from my phone even with the sms workaround implemented.
I'm looking in the wifi settings and don't see any options for "wifi sleep".
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Here is the link: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/24324?tstart=0
Basically, when you are in an area that has spotty coverage, your battery will drain quicker because its always roaming and trying for service. I get this in the Texas Hill country. So if you have wifi and are in a bad location, whenever your wifi sleeps, it goes back to EV. I think just the nature of this connection is hard on the battery. hence using Wifi as much as possible.
Another option is to use APNdroid or something like it to disable the EVDO when you're not using it. Push notifications don't always come through that way or can be slow coming, but if you know your phone is just going to sit there you can conserve a lot of power this way. Turning off GPS, WiFi and EVDO I was able to squeeze out almost 3 days of usage when I was using the phone sparingly. If you're enabling those connections only when you need them, making it through the day should be no problem if you're not constantly using the device.

Wifi time-out OFF by default?

So, it seems the default policy for wifi on this device is never to disconnect itself to save power. The Vibrant defaulted to whenever the screen was off. That makes the default wifi policy between these two devices vastly different. In fact, there isn't even an option on this phone to disconnect from wifi when the screen is shut down. I wonder how this will affect battery life. I may think twice about enabling wifi.
The first thing I did after connecting it to my wifi was go to the wifi advanced settings and set the sleep policy to never. I'm glad it was already off by default. It shows that someone at HTC paid attention to that small detail and how it affected battery life. It greatly helps your battery life in my experience (with the Vibrant), since it's not constantly connecting and disconnecting from wifi which apparently uses more power.
Aspeds2989 said:
The first thing I did after connecting it to my wifi was go to the wifi advanced settings and set the sleep policy to never. I'm glad it was already off by default. It shows that someone at HTC paid attention to that small detail and how it affected battery life. It greatly helps your battery life in my experience (with the Vibrant), since it's not constantly connecting and disconnecting from wifi which apparently uses more power.
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Agree 100%.
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Aspeds2989 said:
The first thing I did after connecting it to my wifi was go to the wifi advanced settings and set the sleep policy to never. I'm glad it was already off by default. It shows that someone at HTC paid attention to that small detail and how it affected battery life. It greatly helps your battery life in my experience (with the Vibrant), since it's not constantly connecting and disconnecting from wifi which apparently uses more power.
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Really? How would that *improve* battery life? I would have it to *detract* from battery life. If I'm at home basking in my wireless network, why would I rather have the connection permanent than to have it disconnected when the screen shuts off as it does by default with the Vibrant? If what you say is true, then setting the timeout from the 15 minutes timeout, as I have it now, to full time connection (never timeouts), will actually save on battery? To me, that flies in the face of reason, but then again, stranger things I've come across.
Just hoping for a reply to the above, and perhaps someone can explain why having wifi never time-out even when the screen is off can lead to better battery life?
think about it. having to connect and reconnect everytime you turn on your screen is bound to eat up. if your screen is off its not sucking in massive amounts of data so the battery drain is at a min
Lockeskidney said:
think about it. having to connect and reconnect everytime you turn on your screen is bound to eat up. if your screen is off its not sucking in massive amounts of data so the battery drain is at a min
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Well, it's certainly not intuitive, and I am thinking about it, hence the post. In order to maintain an active wifi connection, there has to be continual pinging back and forth even with no active data connections from the device. Now, we all know that there *is* a lot of data being exchanged when the screen is off - whether it be syncing accounts, retrieving news items, emails, etc. This would all be taking place over a wifi connection by default. It is also my understanding that using your wifi radio consumes more power than your UMTS radio does. However, I'm not entirely sure of that last point.
Isn't it far more intuitive to believe (whether factual or not) that having the wifi radio powered on unnecessarily while in your pocket would consume more power than having it turn off? Even the seasoned users over in the Vibrant forums all recommend setting the wifi to turn off when the screen shuts off, which is a setting not available on the MT4G.
I'd like to believe that how HTC sets the default wifi behavior conserves power, but it sort of flies in the face of reason. I'm also of the belief that the device is set by default the way it is so that callers who use Wifi Calling can always be reached while at home on their wifi network. But, having such a wifi connection setting is actually eating up your battery life if you don't need wifi calling.
Wifi used less power that edge/g3/4g. Having it constantly on wifi with improve your battery life just because when wifi is enabled it shuts off cellular data.
option94 said:
Wifi used less power that edge/g3/4g. Having it constantly on wifi with improve your battery life just because when wifi is enabled it shuts off cellular data.
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Ah, OK, well there you have it. Someone ought to tell those folks over the in the Vibrant forums then. Thanks...
floepie said:
Ah, OK, well there you have it. Someone ought to tell those folks over the in the Vibrant forums then. Thanks...
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I have. I have a vibrant. Ordered the mytouch last night.
Also, can't have WiFi sleeping... otherwise WiFi calling won't work...
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Fast discharging

I896, Rooted, factory Gingerbread.
I have a Captivate and a Tab. Both Wifi only, no Sims, Airplane mode on, Bluetooth off. Machines are on but screen is off. The Tab looses 3% over the course of the morning and the Captivate looses 20%!
I'm running regular 'power user' type apps; Titanium Backup, Tasker, LauncherPro. If there are any apps notorious for secret batt consumption, let me know what to avoid.
Running SystemPanel Lite - I can't see any app that is taking up more CPU time than normal that would explain this kind of drain. The battery page shows a good proportion of battery use display and wifi. In one instance I used the Captivate so little that display showed less use than wifi. In the course of just checking phone power consumption, the display use percent way up, just like expected (Just to show that wifi was really doing almost nothing) and still I had lost more than 15% of battery over the time when the phone was supposedly idle, not connected to anything with the screen off. Some ghost is sucking the life out of my battery. Grrrr. What could it be?
I loose 30% in a night with wifi off, backlight set to absolute min and nothing runninng or syncing.
I don't get it. Any ideas? What do I try next?
get use to it, its androids horrible power management
rsx19 said:
get use to it, its androids horrible power management
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His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.
Have you tried Juice Defender?
Also, check to make sure you don't have applications constantly running. What version of android are you running? Check in system settings -> status -> somewhere in here you can check the battery status and what applications are pulling the most juice ... From there if one application needs to be removed you can action it ...
Also try the "Battery Calibration" app in the market. It's free.
studacris said:
His tab is running Android too.
If you don't have anything helpful (or knowledgeable) to say don't say anything.
Op, download watchdog from the market, (system panel is kinda ..meh.) and see if there us a rogue app munching battery.
You may consider flashing a ROM see if its just that firmware/kernel reacting to your phone.
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my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate
Menu -> Settings -> Wireless and Networking -> Wi-Fi settinngs -> Menu -> Advanced -> Wi-Fi sleep policy
Set it to when screen turns off.
We have to switch that every time we flash. I really wish it was default. Some ROMs also have background data control, but it's usually when wi-fi is on so it shouldn't be a problem.
rsx19 said:
my captivate running cm7 STOCK will drain down to 20% from being idle for 12 hours
my battery will also drain 30% from 45 mins of wifi only use.
doesnt help him but thats my experience from my captivate
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You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.
studacris said:
You do know that cm7 doesn't have the proper hardware drivers from Samsung so the battery life is known to be HORRIBLE right? If not you should really read up on the ROM you're using
Flash any touchwiz ROM, especially a native I897 build and you will see a dramatic increase in battery life.
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I'm on CM7 and am going on 27 hours with moderate usage.. Granted, I have the 1800 mah battery from the Sprint Galaxy S2
trying flashing to pinnacle. I too have battled weird captivate drain issues.
if you wanna try CM, read my thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1364357
I've held off replying as I was trying a few things and figured I would report only once I was done.
I found and ran Battery Calibration, just before I read the post. Between that and turning Wifi sleep policy to off with screen off, I had a great weekend. I was getting a day and a half out of my phone, which considering the use, was very acceptable. I was getting about the same drain as my Tab. I had 1% battery drain after 4 hrs of screen off time. That seemed fine for me.
I got back to school where I teach and yesterday the phone drained as fast as it has before. Interestingly, it continued its rapid drain even after I left the school and went back home. So, it died at 4am this morning. I heard it shut down. The school has at least 4 routers, two of which have 5k access options. I know if I choose them, my laptop drains way faster. Is there a way to limit my wifi connection on the captivate and not use the faster 5k connection?
But, this still doesn't explain why, even after I leave the school, the Captivate continues to drain when it is 10ft from a single 100mb wifi router.
I'm almost ready to try a custom Rom, but not sure how that will affect my ability to use it as a phone, once I get my Sim activated. Still new to this all.
You think everyone running a custom ROM doesn't use the phone?
Shouldn't affect your ability to do anything...
The WiFi and cell radio do increase power on lower signal as we know, but that's not always the cause of drain. I remember times using Froyo when kswapd goes nuts for no reason, or trillian, email, twitter or some other app just starts using massive CPU. Many apps are probably never tested on a system that has no connection most of the time. That's where all the utilities come in handy to find the culpret. OSMonitor can help find CPU hogs. TiBu can freeze apps, or uninstall them temporarily. Juice Plotter can monitor drain over time (newer Androids have something like it built-in). It takes some time to find it, but newer versions of the OS make it easier and have less trouble.
Also the battery % is only estimated. I'd trust full to empty time rather than 90% to 80% time as 10% use since it's not really as linear as we think.
Not to point out the obvious, but it can be the battery itself that has the problem. They aren't exactly manufactured to NASA standards... well, maybe their standards lately, but the point is, sometimes the ghost you're chasing is staring you right in the face.

[Q] [QQ]POLL - Are you happy with the battery life

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I am reading a lot of different comments in the battery discussion thread. Its hard to tell how many people are happy and how many
hate the battery life. Some people have their phones on airplane mode to show of the lengevity and it really throws me off. Please vote
on the poll and make this simple. Do not post any screenshots or usage just a simple yes or no. Thanks Guys and Gals!
Says im not allowed to vote in the poll. Very happy with battery life
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I'm quite satisfied with the battery life.
It's my first Android phone and I had three iPhones. I don't find any of iPhones lasted longer than this phone.
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I'm quite satisfied with the battery life.
It's my first Android phone and I had three iPhones. I don't find any of iPhones lasted longer than this phone.
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My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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get betterbatterystats to monitor his wakelocks, 6% per hr drains is BAD, it should be like at most 1% per hour
maybe has location and all syncs enabled?
mine only loses like 6% the whole night, i have like 97% deep sleep at least when screen is off
Check the battery stats in settings. There is a known issue with Google Play Services and wake locks. A reboot usually solves it temporarily.
I put my N5 into airplane mode before I go to bed. No annoying notifications and less drain (no cellular paging). I have verified several nights that I lose 1% battery over 8 hours in airplane mode.
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Yes. Extremely. Coming from gs3, gs4, n4, moto x.
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rpmccormick said:
My buddy is coming from an iPhone 4, and so far he hates everything about it as much as I try to change his mind. He is more concerned with the screen-off battery consumption than anything. He swears up and down that if his screen is off 95% of the time (just quick reads of email/sms) then his iPhone 4 will easily last 3 full days while notifying him of sms/email/im/facebook/etc. I don't see how that's possible. He says all the time he would put down the iPhone at night on the 5% warning, NOT charge it over night, and it would always be alive for the alarm in the morning (without disabling any syncing). I don't see how that's possible. He basically believes that phones should not take hardly any battery when their screen is off, and he swears up and down that his iPhone 4 never did. His N5 loses about 6% an hour with the screen off, meaning he has to have over 40% battery for his phone to last through his sleep (he refuses to charge it while sleeping and says he never had to with the iPhone).
Unfortunately GSam battery monitor does not work in KitKat. Can someone recommend a way to get to the bottom of his battery issues (I have already turned off LTE, Location Tracking, auto-brightness, and using ART instead of Dalvik). ...or is 17hours _standby_ all you can expect from this phone?
The ad says: Standby time up to 300 hours†
†Standby time tests used default settings with LTE on and Wi-Fi connected to a test access point. Wi-Fi internet tests had Airplane Mode on with Wi-Fi connected to a test access point, while loading three popular websites cached on a local server. The Nexus 5 loaded a page, waited 40 seconds, and then loaded a page from the next site.
Did he just get a bad one that needs returning?
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Auto syncs off. Constant account syncing is what drains the most battery when the screen is off.
These solutions unfortunately do not work:
1) BetterBatteryStats requires root to give any useful info. He does not really want to root, but would if he could do it without erasing everything (not fond of backup/restore either, but if you can FULLY backup without root [or get root without erasing so no backup is necessary] then I could get him to let me root it). Probably off-topic, so I will continue to research no-wipe root solutions (keep seeing it referenced with no links)
2) Turning off sync or going in to air-plane mode will not do. He wants an instant notification for any communication-event 24/7 just like his iPhone4 gave him, and I for one cannot blame him, as my HTC One does for me without killing the battery (and thanks to researching this for him, I now have really long battery [even with all notifications] by using Greenify - but he doesn't since he doesn't have root yet).
Number 1 above (and/or Greenify) is the correct solution, I just need to root it first. Hard to do on someone else's phone though... but I hate that he so hates his first Android Experience on the N5 (largely due to the bad battery, and also do to the fact he is scared to root it or even install a custom launcher).
Anyway, thanks for the help (and PM me if you have something to say that is not battery-life related... I'm not trying to thread-hijack)

Marshmellow Upgrade | Awful Battery Life

Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
Battery life is relatively unchanged in mine after the mm update. Easily make it through the entire day with 50-60% battery life remaining. I disabled a whole bunch of the bloatware (and will be removing it entirely when I decide to root my phone) and battery life is wonderful.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Mine has been fine, slightly better with doze/disabling packages. Do a back up through Smart Switch and try a factory reset. I do that every time I update.
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
shaels said:
I'm envious of your successes. I'll give it a bit to see if it stabilizes, if not I'll use SS and reset/restore.
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I will recommend "Package Disabler Pro" to disable bloatware. Costs but is worth the cash.
Mine went through on Thursday and so far battery appears ok.
I have noticed however the lighting is messed up all over. Play books night light feature is broken and dims it to unrecognizable levels. I have to go into the settings again when in the book and disable auto lighting and manually raise it. When back at the list of books screen, the brightness drops to nearly off again.
Also it seems the notifications when listening to music are much louder. I could listen to mp3s via poweramp while reading a book and get an SMS text and itd be a light little sound. this is playing louder than my music and very annoying.
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
All thoughtful replies. I don't have Location on ever, unless I'm using Waze, so that's a non-issue for me. Allowing WiFi to sleep when the phone is off, while I'm only connecting via WiFi, effectively makes my smartphone a dumb phone, until I wake it up, right? The fact that I need to start changing around "normal" settings on my phone, to lesser benefiting ones, to get back to the battery life I had before I installed MM is pretty silly. I've been hoping things would settle down, but they don't. I can try using SmartSwitch later to see if that helps.
Steamer86 said:
1: Apps/sync will use mobile data as priority if this is done while waiting to connect to wifi. In turn, using even more battery if an app/sync wakes the phone switching between networks.
2: This is damaging to Li batteries. To extend the life of your battery, it is better to keep it topped above 80% and cool(not very common in real world applications). These aren't Ni batteries, long gone are the days of "memory discharging".
If you don't need notifications at night, use airplane mode. I miss Xposed, Autotasker, and Amplify(formerly Bounce)... Greenify is a good alt atm
Note: Sometimes even Play service updates will introduce bugs and or "retarded" policies that will destroy the battery, especially the "Now" systems. It can happen at the most random times as well and not at all most. Every now and then the fat man will get stuck in the tube.
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No, it will connect LTE and then switch to wifi. LTE use more battery life, the network switch uses a bit, then finally you are into wifi. If your phone wakelocks or alarms(location ping, play service ping, etc) it will use more battery than wifi always on. Personally, I've tested both to make sure a wifi wakelock bug hasn't been introduced as I do with every update and play service update(it does happen and it's horrible drain). I see more savings always on.
If you meant you disable mobile network, yes, dumb phone, text and call. Also, I disable mobile usually always as I piggyback off work cell at work, and always wifi at home. I only toggle mobile data when necessary.
jasong127 said:
My batter life was horrible after the upgrade. Here's what I did to fix it.
1) Wifi sleep policy - Changed that to "While Charging" (big difference noticed after that)
2) Fully charged phone then let it run down to 0 (must let it power itself off)
3) Wifi Scanning has been moved under Location setting. Go to Location -> Improve accuracy, make sure Wi-Fi scanning is off.
Batter life is awesome now.
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I believe this is what most people encounter. Most dont have unlimited data and use WIFI always. I think by default, WIFI is set to always on, even when phone screen is off. WIFI will rape your battery. I did my own tests with wifi vs 4g and just by using my 4g all the time, battery quadrupled. Many argued that WIFI uses less battery, and i have the best of the best wifi router/modem/isp with 5ghz ac excellent coverage. Not the case for me. I have unlimited and just stick with that now. Battery life on MM has been great for me.
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
shaels said:
Anyone else experiencing this? Atrocious battery life post upgrade. Nothing odd running in background, program or processes. Rebooted phone. Started the day at 100% with moderate usage at best, I'm already down to 19%.
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Been on MM for about five days now and my battery blows, so much worse than what it was!
musicfreak190 said:
My battery life is 4x better. I couldn't be happier.
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Mine is exactly 4 times worse
Battery the same.
But I have to tap the screen harder to chose app.
Going to factory reset and start clean, been a while.
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Has Verizon released any new updates to patch the issues with Marsh Mellow update
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Not that I know of.
Though they JUST released Marshmallow. Verizon is probably still patting themselves on the back even though they released several months late. What I'm waiting for is a miraculous root.
I never use my phone the same amount every day, so it's hard to say exactly what kind of battery life I get, but I have noticed that it has improved. I would usually be near 15% by 10pm after coming off charger at 6am. Now I float around 25% at 10pm. So it seems to be better, even if only slightly so.
I see a minimal improvement, but I was doing what I could without root prior to sleep unnecessary crap.
Weird, when thye MM updated happened, up until the last two days, I was getting much better battery life under MM. But the past few days my battery life has declined dramatically to the point that I am not getting through a day of minimal use. Screen only 2%, Android OS consuming 76%.
I just fiddled with settings (Changed Wifi sleep to While Charging; Turned off wifi scanning). I am going to also try a reboot to see if that helps. I swear it started just about the time I started looking at Nexus 6p replacements).
Update, rebooting, and removing a few more useless apps and battery life has returned.

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