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Great thought
This is really a great thought.
Belkin and Anker cables recommended
My experience with Type-A to Type-C cables with my Nexus 5X:
I initially tried a 1m Bestek cable which was very inconsistent for charging and got returned. My suspicion is that it didn't meet the Type-C resistor spec.
I have had good experiences with a 1.8m Belkin cable (but v. expensive) and several 1m Anker cables (mid-price).
I ordered the revised Orzly cable last night from Amazon (the individual one, not the 4 pack - don't need that many right now). I know the Pixel C comes with a charging cable, but I wasn't sure if the power adapter was removable to use for data transfer. Either way, it'll be nice to have the extra cable as I'll keep the power one plugged in by my bedside and keep the other one with the other USB cables by my computer.
I'm thinking about getting this:
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Digi...d=1449677741&sr=8-2&keywords=Kingston+DTDUO3C
I already have a OTG cable that I bought for my Nexus 6P but this looks like it would be pretty handy on the go. Does anyone have any experience with this storage stick?
Got my Pixel C today (in UK) and can confirm the charger doesn't have a cable that removes :-\
Update 11/12 got a type c to c and type c to a data/charging cable today, the c to c works fine and the data transfer speeds are ace, approx. 30 secs per 1gb of data from pc to laptop on a usb 3.1 port and around 40 secs per 1gb the other way, this is the cable I got: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B014P2DBJA?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00
I also bought an A to C cable too, this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011TH8BB2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 and no joy at all geting it to work as a data cable, tried using every type A port (usb 2 & 3) on my gaming pc and on a work laptop too, the Pixel shows as if it is charging for a split second then nothing. Tried to same cable with a numerous wall socket/chargers and same behaviour, so faulty/non-compatible cable I guess. Anyone have a link to a working type A to C cable (UK) please ?
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CharlesW123 said:
I also bought an A to C cable too, this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011TH8BB2?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00 and no joy at all geting it to work as a data cable, tried using every type A port (usb 2 & 3) on my gaming pc and on a work laptop too, the Pixel shows as if it is charging for a split second then nothing. Tried to same cable with a numerous wall socket/chargers and same behaviour, so faulty/non-compatible cable I guess. Anyone have a link to a working type A to C cable (UK) please ?
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I can confirm the Bestek A to C cables don't work well. See my post above for UK A to C cables. Belkin is pricey but excellent, Anker is mid-price.
Search for Benson Leung on amazon.com. He has tested many USB C cables.
PriyanPhoenix said:
I can confirm the Bestek A to C cables don't work well. See my post above for UK A to C cables. Belkin is pricey but excellent, Anker is mid-price.
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Sorry missed your link before, I ended up with this Orzly one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018F8BDFE only had the red one in stock! lol But to be fair it will stop me getting it mixed up with an old/standard one! Works great for both data and charging (using a wall socket with type a or via pc).
I have the red Orzly too, it smells like a chewing gum, from an outdoor vending machine. The tool CheckR told me that this one is not recommended using with the Pixel.
As I initially bought it for my 1+2 phone, I can't blame me too much in that case.
Can I use inbox typc c to type a USB + female USB a couples as a otg ? Will the type c resistor suits this config ?
If you are in Australia, I picked up one of these Belkin cables from JB HiFi, very expensive but been spot on for both data and charging the device
hevey said:
If you are in Australia, I picked up one of these Belkin cables from JB HiFi, very expensive but been spot on for both data and charging the device
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Na. I'm thinking of making one with inbox accessories and usb female coupler .
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Play it safe and don't spend a lot of money. I recommend this USB A to C cable from Belkin F2CU032BT06, comes in various colors and it is USB-IF certified..
Can be bought for about $10 shipped http://www.ebay.com/itm/Belkin-MIXIT...W/322397095951
I also own this 6 pack and they have worked well with my Pixel XL and the Pixel C https://www.amazon.com/1-6ftx1-3-3ftx4-6-6ftx1-Hi-speed-ChromeBook/dp/B01MG36MBZ
I just ordered some of these https://www.amazon.com/CHOETECH-1x1-6ft-4x3-3ft-1x6-6ft-OnePlus/dp/B01N4E9AN6 and https://www.amazon.com/Cable-CHOETECH-Packs-3-3ft-Braided/dp/B01LX8GCZ5
Listed in this deal alert http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...-type-c-cable-multi-packs-sale-amazon-35-off/
Got in my Choetech 3pack and 6pack USB A to Type-C today. Man great sturdy build same as the C-C version. The braided is so nice, and transfer speeds on both cables are whopping fast! Good charging, tested several different brand OEM chargers. I ordered these after seeing they were on sale again on a slickdeals post and though I'd take advantage.
UPDATE: using the USB Device Tree Viewer application on Windows 10 I am able to see this cable is able to negotiate SuperSpeed on my ASUS Z97-A. Dirty testing transferring a 1GB zip file from the PIXEL C to my Samsung EVO 120 SSD it takes roughly 20 secs to complete. By comparison it takes twice as long in Highspeed USB ports roughly 42 secs to complete the same test. Similar results as my Belkin 3.1 ss10 cable.
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
Confused or not you really should spend some time reading through the other threads that are already here.
The situation has started to clear up quite a bit but all the info is already here.
I started to read through one of the threads but I just got more confused. Lots of talk about what wouldn't work and the one plus one cables being bad.
I'd be happy to research more on my own, if you could point me in the direction of a quality thread or post.
Thanks
Essentially, some companies are producing USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables that don't meet the standards set out by the USB Consortium (made up of Google, Apple, and many other tech companies). These cables that don't meet the specification could allow a device (such as your phone) to try to pull too much current from a charger, USB port, or USB hub and thus damage them. Worst case scenario, they cause a charger to overheat and start a fire!
SO, your best bet is to buy USB Type-A to USB Type-C cables directly from Google or any of the cables Benson Leung (a Google engineer) has reviewed highly. It doesn't matter if they're USB 2.0, 3.0, or 3.1 as the Nexus 6P only supports the slower USB 2.0 speeds and it's all compatible!
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
I sadly have not seen a verified adapter yet. You could take a chance on buying some that haven't been disqualified and test them with this app, and return them if they fail. Otherwise, some people are keeping track of verified accessories on this spreadsheet and someone might find good adapters.
Ewto16 said:
Are there any certified adapters or recommendations on something that converts a Micro USB end to a Type-C end? I'd prefer to just extend the cables I already have rather than replace them.
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I looked through his profile and all of the reviews he's done and none of the adapters have met specifications. You might be better off going with cables instead of adapters.
Thanks you were both very helpful!
All this info above is true. But just an FYI I've had my phone for about a month and only used the micro USB to c adapters (other than a couple times to test with the googled one ) since my case I got had the port too small for the Google charger to fit through and I've never had any issues. The charger or phone doesn't get any hotter or warmer. The phone does charge slower than the Google charger, but that's because the power adapters I'm using are about 1500mah bricks.
Just wanted to chime in that I was not able to get any of my microusb OTG cables working using an adapter. (2 different microusb F to usb-C M adapters purchased through Aliexpress) Perhaps I was just unlucky, though.
They seem to work for connecting to a computer. I also see videos from XDA's youtube channel where they use one of those adapters for connecting a 6p to a computer.
Strangely, one of the adapters shows that it's compliant through the aforementioned app!
The cables/adapters that are out of specification can work fine; but it all depends on how your devices, chargers, and hubs handle the incorrect cable. While you might get lucky and it'll work fine, you might also get unlucky!
Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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Why take a chance? And why support companies that don't follow the rules?
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This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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While I went for the certified cables, most complain because we're spending 10+ on a cable we're used to buying for 4 or 5 bucks... For the longer cord.
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Elnrik said:
This.
It also baffles me why people are so willing to shell out $500+ for a new phone, but scream bloody murder when having to pay a little more for compliant cables / adapters / chargers.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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Yes you have a valid point except that there are no certified adapters yet as far as I know. Which means for someone like me it's not about money, but it's about being able to use micro USB still since practically every other devices I have uses that still. Ie tablet, controllers, remotes.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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So it about not wanting to carry 1 extra cable? I don't see that being a big deal at all.
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We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
frigidazzi said:
We all have different scenarios. I like to have at minimum a charger in car, bedroom, living room, computer desk, bathroom with shower, work, kitchen and battery pack in backpack. I'm not carrying around an extra cable for each place.
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I know where you are coming from, that's one of the reasons why I sold all of my mirco USB phones/tablets (my Nexus 6 and Shield Tablet LTE). I have 1 good USB-A to USB-C cable 2 USB C-C wall chargers, and a USB C battery pack along with 4 C-C cables.
Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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Sill looking for good replacement USB C wall chargers. Anybody got a lock on some good quality ones?
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I have a feeling that the Google chargers will be the best quality ones you can get. I have both of the Google chargers - the single port and dual port - and have had great results with both.
I saw a few type c chargers from chotech on amazon.com the other day. No clue if they are any good though.
Ewto16 said:
Little confused on what I need for my new phone coming Friday. Obviously, I have a host of Micro USB cables that I'd like to be able to use with my new phone. I assume there must be some adapter that is recommended.
I also need a cable to run from an Anker charger to my new phone.
Thanks!
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Please refer to these 2 OP's for certified Type-C and Type-A to Type-C cables and discussion:
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/usb-type-c-cables-reviewed-google-t3240861
2.http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/accessories/benson-leung-verified-usb-c-cables-t3245685
Disclaimer: All of these items were sent to me by Tronsmart for a fair and honest review.
Backstory:
Tronsmart I a well-known accessory manufacturer known for their cables and chargers. This is my first experience with their products because I usually end up purchasing most of my cables/chargers when I first get a new phone (I used qi charging almost exclusively until this current phone). This year things changed as I’m sure everyone is aware; the USB Type-C standard was initially very confusing for both consumers and accessory manufacturers alike. At first it was hard to find any Type-C accessories let alone ones that were probably in spec. This presented an issue for consumers trying to buy a cable that wouldn’t potentially brown out their charger, cause a fire, or harm their brand new Nexus 5X/6P.
I initially purchased an Aukey Type A-C cable off Amazon, and some OnePlus Type A-C cables/microUSB adapters. Soon after purchasing those items, I learned from Benson Leung that the majority of manufactures weren’t following the proper standard, and intern were using the wrong resister. Now while this was great to know, it also made it hard to buy a product with confidence considering that many if not all of them were potentially dangerous to use. Benson Leung went one step further, and began testing cables, chargers, and other products then posting reviews stating whether or not each one met the USB standard. The initial Tronsmart USB-C car charger fell victim to this problem, but thankfully it was corrected with their new car charger you will see below.
Tronsmart sent me a wide array of items to review on here with each one meeting the proper standard as verified via Check-R, and Benson Leung (except for the car charger as of 12/23 which has not been tested)
Here is are some pictures of the items that will be reviewed:
Tronsmart USB Type-C 33W Car Charger with Dual USB Rapid Charging and Quick Charge 3.0
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First I will delve into an item that I know will be used on a daily basis, and that’s their car charger. The charger itself features both a USB Type-C port and a USB Type-A port to meet all of your device needs. The USB Type-A port uses something Tronsmart calls VoltIQ which will charger at 5V/3A max meeting the needs of most devices out there now. On the other hand, the Type-C port features QUALCOMM’s Quick Charge 3.0 standard so you can future proof your car by getting this charger. The Type-C port will charge at: 5-6.5V/3.0A, 6.5-9V/2.0A, 12V/1.5A(Max). This should allow the Nexus 5X/6P to rapid charge via the Type-C port, and charge at ~1.5A from the Type-A port as an in spec cable should.
I plugged both Type-C and Type-A cables into the ports to see how each one fits. The Type-C cable seems much more secure than the Type-A which is something that I’ve noticed when testing the car charger. I tested the car charger using Tronsmart’s USB Type A-C, C-C, and MicroUSB-C cables/adapter. Here are some screenshots showing the charging speed of each one on my Nexus 6P:
Update [12/25] I used the car charger on my 7+ hour drive yesterday and didn't have any issues. The C-C port was use for that part of my trip, and I plan to use the A-C cable via the Type-A port on my drive back tomorrow. I will add another update on how that goes after I get home which will be late Saturday, so the update will likely come on Sunday as a result.
Update [12/26] @MrKaon brought a good point to my attention; the car charger works perfectly fine, but it is not in spec for the USB standard. I personally did not encounter any issues with the car charger; however, the Type-C port cannot use QC 3.0 alongside the Type-C fast charging because it goes against the USB standard as outline HERE. I hope Tronsmart fixes this issue as they stated in the google + post, but all of the cables (A-C included) are in spec. The car charger is the only item that is still not correctly meeting the specification.
Update[12/29] After speaking with Tronsmart, and reading through this google plus post I'm still not sure how I feel about the charger. It does technically go against the charging standard as outline in section 4.8.2 which is further detailed by Benson Leung and the USB standard he is referencing (download). It seems that there is still a significant amount of confusion regarding the new standard. According to Benson Leung, Qualcomm has their Type-C quick charge wrong as it currently stands; this created more issues because Qualcomm told Tronsmart that its QC3.0 standard was correct when it still goes against the USB standard. To sum things up it still isn't using the standard, but it works perfectly fine as is. I'm still using it daily with a C-C cable without any issues, and I plan to until someone shows that it could cause damage to my phone/charger/car.
I used the A-C cable during my ~7 hour drive back home today, and didn't have any issues with it. I also tested both ports simultaneously, and did not notice a drop in current; this would be great if the charger was up to the proper specifications, but its not. I will wait on Tronsmart to make a updated on as they mentioned in their google + post I referenced. If Tronsmart sends me an updated one I will post a newer review on it in this OP.
USB Voltage Mult-meter test (showing that it's meeting the USB Spec)
Stock Google A-C Cable
Tronsmart A-C Cable
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Charging Speeds Screenshots
C-C
A-C
MicroUSB-C
Tronsmart 6[ft] USB Type A-C 2 pack
Tronsmart Type A-C 6[ft] Cable 2 Pack
I know many people still enjoy using their legacy chargers rather than buy complete new Type-C ones to replace them, this is where Tronsmart’s USB Type A-C cables come into play. These cables come in a pack of 2 (1 white and 1 black) each cable measuring 6[ft]/1.82[m] in length. Since the cables are using the Type-A port they can be used in more places than your convention Type C-C cables. I always keep a Type A-C cable in my backpack, along with a C-C cable just in case I need to plug my phone into my Surface Pro 4 or a PC for any reason.
The build quality of these cables is great, the cable itself is made out of your typical materials, and is somewhat rigid. I assume the cable will become much more flexible as time goes on, but it’s really an observation more than it is an issue for me. The connectors at each end are solid, and feel like they will last a long time by design. The USB Type-C connector is a matte plastic and tapered so it will not interfere with any cases. (it seems to work just fine with all of my cases so far including the CaseMate, and Ringke Fusion that I tested it on). The cable feels nice, and I plan to use it along with their C-C cable on my road trip tomorrow.
I tested the cable and verified that is passes via the Check-R app on my 6P. The dimensions of each end of the cable were measured with my digital caliper and will be listed below so everyone can check and ensure it will work with their intended case. I also plan to create a spreadsheet listing all of the cases, and cable compatibility given my vast assortment of them.
Update [12/25] I spoke with Tronsmart regarding the earlier mention of the cable being 'in spec', and they said all of their Type-C products have been sent to Benson Leung for review. They also noted that due to the holidays it might take a little longer before he posts about them officially. I am confident their cables will pass the test based on what I have seen as well.
Update [1/7] Benson Leung has reviewed and approved the Tronsmart A-C cable. This confirms my earlier tests of the cable. Bensons Review
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Packaging & Cables:
Connectors Black:
Connectors White:
Type-C Connector Side View Black:
Type-C Connector Side View White:
Tronsmart 6[ft] USB Type C-C 2 pack
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-USB..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1G77XXSTWZGMBC089VAT
When it comes to Type-C cables, there aren’t many 6[ft]/1.82[m] cables out there to use with the factory Google charger without paying an excessive amount of money. I purchased the Google 22.5W dual port Type-C charger back when I bought my phone, and while it is very nice (so is the 1.82[m] cable) it was costly. The Google cable retails for $19.99 or the charger with the cable is $39.99; this might have been okay a few months ago, but now there are more choices for a fraction of that price. The Tronsmart USB C-C 2 pack comes with 2! of these cables for only $15.99 USD (as of 12/23). These cables are every bit as nice feeling (if not better in some ways) than the Google one I bought a while ago. I like how Tronsmart includes both a white and a black cable allowing you to choose the color based on where you intend to use it, and what one you enjoy more.
The connectors at each end of the cable are exactly the same as the previous one; this means the connector still features the tapered design, and matte finish which is fine with me.
Update [12/25] I used the C-C cable while driving for 7+ hours yesterday and it performed just as you would expect. I also used both cables in my Google Dual Port Type-C charger to charge my wife's 6P and mine last night. The cables have been working great, and my wife enjoys it more than the stock cable because it's much longer, and has a better build overall.
Update[12/25] Part 2: Tronsmart also mentioned that a C-C cable should not have a 56K pull resistor, or any resistor as noted in "3.4.2 "USB 2.0 Type-C Cable Assembly" for instructions on how to build a legal C-to-C cable. Adding a resistor would be wrong". I really appreciate Tronsmart's great service, and how they reached out to me with this information. I rarely see companies go to these lengths without first asking, but Tronsmart did this on their own without me having to ask. I'm going to buy some more of their cables because they have excellent service, and I could always use more cables.
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Tronsmart MicroUSB-C 2 pack
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Con..._UL160_SR160,160_&refRID=1G77XXSTWZGMBC089VAT
Tronsmart decided to also make a MicroUSB-C adapter so you can use all of your old microUSB cables. These adapters also come in a 2 pack (1 white and 1 black) just like Tronsmart’s cables. I only have a handful of cables left over (primarily for my Nvidia Shield TV PRO), but these will still get used for a variety of reasons. I usually carry a USB Type A-C/C-C cables around, but this adapter is more practical in a different way. I can easily carry this in my backpack just in case I wanted to leave out my other cables, and need to charge my phone. The majority of people I know still use a microUSB cable to charge their phone, and this allows you to charge your 6P via the old cables. It is very small (easy to lose unfortunately, I wish they included a key fob like OnePlus did) but brings exactly what you need if you need to charge your phone but only have access to microUSB cables. I plan to carry one of each cable, and these adapters around with me because I like to be over prepared rather than under-prepare. I also have the TechMatte microUSB adapters, but their quality is far lower than the Tronsmart ones. The adapters remain consistent with Tronsmarts other Type-C accessories and feature a tapered body which makes them less susceptible to breaking. I can’t find any flaws in these adapters other than they don’t come with some form of holder which would prevent them from getting lost easily.
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Tronsmart 33W Dual Port Type-C, Type-A Wall Charger
Tronsmart Dual Port Type-C, Type-A 33W Travel Charger
Overview
Tronsmart is on a roll with all of their great new products being released. They Dual Port Type-C/Type-A wall charger is no exception with a familiar designto the other dual port charger they sent me. The charger is small enough to easily bring in your bad, and it has the advantage of packing both a Type-A & Type-C port for maximum versatility. I am going to bring this with me to school on a daily basis as a means of an emergency charger/long term test.
Packaging
What’s in the box
A dual port charger, and some basic documentation with Tronsmart's usual contact information.
Build & Design
I've been enjoying the other dual port charger I was sent because of its nice compact form. The addition of a fold-able plug gives the charger the extra portability you need when carrying one around. The charger features Tronsmarts signature glossy edge coupled with a nice matte plastic body. A high quality feeling plastic is used which gives it a better feel than the stock Huawei, or the Google 22.5W dual port chargers.
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Charging
The Type-A port will charge using Tronsmarts Volt IQ up to 5V/3A, while the Type-C port uses Qualcomms Quick Charge 3.0. I have tested both ports with my 6P, a dock, Shield Controller, and external battery packs. The Type-C port will only push up to 5V/3A and not the QC 3.0 which is good. Tronsmart designed the charger so it would identify the phone, and provide only the current it could handle. This is the same idea behind their Type-C/Type-A car charger I reviewed above which is still working flawlessly. If there are any concerns over the use of QC 3.0 via the Type-C port please refer to the links I posted in the car charger section for a better explanation.
Here is a breakdown of the charging by port:
Type-A: 5V/3A
Type-C: 3.6-6.5V/3A, 6.5-9V/2A, and 9-12V/1.5A
Picture of my 6P, and battery pack charging from both ports (the 6P is "rapid charging", and the battery pack is charging slower because it was nearly full)
Summary
Tronsmart made another excellent charger using the tried and true design language that should last for a long time. I like the versatility of the foldable plug and inclusion of both types of USB ports. I would buy one of these as a gift without hesitation given its performance build, and Tronsmart's exceptional service!
At the request of Tronsmart I removed the 'hide' image tags for the car charger so the pictures can be seen immediately without clicking on each one.
Update #1 [1/12] Tronsmart is adding a PTC (positive temperature coefficient to all of their Type-C products) This is also known as a thermistor to counter some issues people had with the cables. Tronsmart stated that people who did not keep the cables dry during use/clean experienced issues, but I wouldn't worry about it as this time. The addition of the thermistor is more of a preventative measure to ensure there are no issues for anyone despite using a cable incorrectly. I have not experienced any issues personally with their products, and I will continue to use them on a daily basis unless something prevents me from doing so. I was told the Type-C products that I currently have will be replaced which is going above and beyond in my opinion. I will update this statement with any new information as it becomes available.
Update #2 [1/12] PTC is not the standard, but rather a step above in terms of safety. I wanted to add that all of these cables are 100% compliant and meet the USB specification as outlined with Benson Leungs approval. Tronsmart is going above and beyond to ensure consumer safety with their products. No other USB Type-C cables on the market current incorporate a thermistor, so with Tronsmart's revised cables you will never have to worry. (the stock Google cables do NOT have a thermistor) I believe Tronsmart is trying their best to instill confidence in their products, and stand above the rest. This is my personal opinion based on my communication with them regarding issues I've had/seen.
Very professional review! Thanks! Got the tronsmart type c car charger and the type c to a cable:good: Actually I had found the new tronsmart car charger before but didn't find any review here.
jisddwqs said:
Very professional review! Thanks! Got the tronsmart type c car charger and the type c to a cable:good: Actually I had found the new tronsmart car charger before but didn't find any review here.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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How about the update? Does it work well? PS: The link of "Tronsmart Cables/Car Charger/Adapter Review" in your signature is wrong. Just link to the post"[Review 12/23] Case Comparison: 15+ cases (Hybrid, Clear, Slim, Rugged & TPU)"
Send the product link to Benson Leung without his approval don't buy it.
His reviewed products so far
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How about the update? Does it work well? PS: The link of "Tronsmart Cables/Car Charger/Adapter Review" in your signature is wrong. Just link to the post"[Review 12/23] Case Comparison: 15+ cases (Hybrid, Clear, Slim, Rugged & TPU)"
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I fixed the link in my signature thank for you the heads up. Next, I was driving all day yesterday and I said I would update it when I had the time; it was noted in the OP that I would be out of town, and update the OP when I have the time because of that. I have a few minutes now so I will add some more to it. I do this in my free time, so please keep that in mind.
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Send the product link to Benson Leung without his approval don't buy it.
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I'm well aware of his product reviews as I mentioned very clearly in my OP. Benson Leung doesn't ask companies to send him products, but rather he buys them and conducts testing independently. He doesn't need to approve every cable in order for it to be approved. Check-R is just as accurate, and other people on Amazon who own a Pixel tested it the same way as Benson which resulted in the cable passing the test with flying colors. You cannot say "without his approval don't buy it." when there are tons of cables inspec cables that he hasn't tested. No one can seriously expect him to test every cable hence the Check-R app, and other people conducting their own tests within the same standards.
The A-C, and MicroUSB-C cable/adapter pass Check-R just fine; I see no reason why the C-C only wouldn't as well, but I don't have a Type-C port on my laptop or adapter to verify that. I highly doubt Tronsmart would make the A-C cable compliant and then make the C-C non compliant so it's safe to assume that it is indeed compliant.
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Thank you, I will post an update after my ~7-8 hour roadtrip tomorrow. I'm going to use it to keep my Nexus 6P and my wife's 6P charged during the trip. The charger seems to work just as well as my other Type-C car charger (except that one has a fixed cable), and I like the ability to use a longer cable if I want to.
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My car has a bluetooth puck that is powered by a USB port. I read that if you have something connected to the Type C port of a car charger and then connect another device, the charging ability to either device drops like a rock. (I currently have an OMAKER 6.6A 3-port USB Type A charger).
Can you replicate this? I doubt my BT puck needs to draw a huge amount of power, but it definitely has no battery and has to run on power (this was intentional, because I wanted the puck to turn on the moment the car is turned on and turn off with the car).
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My car has a bluetooth puck that is powered by a USB port. I read that if you have something connected to the Type C port of a car charger and then connect another device, the charging ability to either device drops like a rock. (I currently have an OMAKER 6.6A 3-port USB Type A charger).
Can you replicate this? I doubt my BT puck needs to draw a huge amount of power, but it definitely has no battery and has to run on power (this was intentional, because I wanted the puck to turn on the moment the car is turned on and turn off with the car).
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I'll test it with my wife's 6P and mine on both ports and let you know. I'll need to make sure both batteries are lower so they will draw more power, then let you know how it performs.
OP Updated with more remarks concerning the cable certification as previously mentioned.
Pilz said:
I'm well aware of his product reviews as I mentioned very clearly in my OP. Benson Leung doesn't ask companies to send him products, but rather he buys them and conducts testing independently. He doesn't need to approve every cable in order for it to be approved. Check-R is just as accurate, and other people on Amazon who own a Pixel tested it the same way as Benson which resulted in the cable passing the test with flying colors. You cannot say "without his approval don't buy it." when there are tons of cables inspec cables that he hasn't tested. No one can seriously expect him to test every cable hence the Check-R app, and other people conducting their own tests within the same standards.
The A-C, and MicroUSB-C cable/adapter pass Check-R just fine; I see no reason why the C-C only wouldn't as well, but I don't have a Type-C port on my laptop or adapter to verify that. I highly doubt Tronsmart would make the A-C cable compliant and then make the C-C non compliant so it's safe to assume that it is indeed compliant.
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Benson doesn't reviews C to C cable only A-C cables and car chargers (already disapproved other Tronsmart charger) after searching Car Charger Thread I find out his opinion about this charger:
Please read the language in section 4.8.2 closely. It prohibits a proprietary charging method, which is what QC is, from modifying the voltage at the charger or the phone side. It's not possible to be compliant with both at the same time.
The way I read the spec, it is also against spec to charge legacy devices at higher voltages (ie an older phone with a MicroB port and supports QC) out of the same Type C port.
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The spec prohibits it because it allowing it would cause significant confusion between two different methods of varying Vbus in a Type-C system. USB PD is the officially sanctioned method, and has some important advantages over any of the existing QCs. Specifically, you will NEVER see a QC hub or charging+data port on your computer because QC completely takes over the USB data lines. USB PD does not do this and there are already fast charging hubs on the market that also hook up USB 2.0 and 3.1 data lines.
Also, allowing it would potentially cause problems with legacy A-to-C cables by changing Vbus, it affects the reading the adc on the device side would read from CC.
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So don't buy it.
Only car charger that has passed his review with only 4 star is Vinsic.
Ha ha I am the one he had to clarify too lol.
MrKaon said:
Benson doesn't reviews C to C cable only A-C cables and car chargers (already disapproved other Tronsmart charger) after searching Car Charger Thread I find out his opinion about this charger:
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So don't buy it.
Only car charger that has passed his review with only 4 star is Vinsic.
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Thank you for the link, I read through the Google + posts then amended the OP to reflect what you referenced. Now, despite the car charger not being compliant, the cables are still perfectly in spec and work fine. I appreciate the link, and information. I tagged you in the OP, then inserted the link you provided so other users can have a look at it.:good:
So the important part, does it work properly like the stock charger? AFAIK and researched, Tronsmart made a 2in1 charger (QC 3.0 + 5V*3A) in one port, that's why it's not in spec. But so far on your review, it works perfectly, and is giving 2700ma when charging.
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So the important part, does it work properly like the stock charger? AFAIK and researched, Tronsmart made a 2in1 charger (QC 3.0 + 5V*3A) in one port, that's why it's not in spec. But so far on your review, it works perfectly, and is giving 2700ma when charging.
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It works just like the stock charger and will give 2.9-3A when the battery is low. I can take a screenshot later when I drain my battery enough and post it in the OP. I know its not up to the correct spec, but it still works fine. I can't recommend people use it because its not correct, yet I haven't had any issues to suggest its unsafe in any way. I have a different car charger (JOTO I believe) and it has a fixed cable which chargers at 5V/3A as well. I'll test both and take screenshots so you can see the rates each one charges at.
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It works just like the stock charger and will give 2.9-3A when the battery is low. I can take a screenshot later when I drain my battery enough and post it in the OP. I know its not up to the correct spec, but it still works fine. I can't recommend people use it because its not correct, yet I haven't had any issues to suggest its unsafe in any way. I have a different car charger (JOTO I believe) and it has a fixed cable which chargers at 5V/3A as well. I'll test both and take screenshots so you can see the rates each one charges at.
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Good to know that it's working properly and PERFECTLY. =) Read the whole thread on reddit. The only issue is, you can't mix QC 3.0 and 5V*3A(Type C charging) in one port. Something about the guidelines.
Tronsmart did it anyway, and made it work. Dunno what the issue is about anymore.
While Benson Leung did great on pointing out the defeciencies in the market, I think this scare is already blown out IMO.
But more importantly, thank you so much for the review. ??
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swiftden said:
Good to know that it's working properly and PERFECTLY. =) Read the whole thread on reddit. The only issue is, you can't mix QC 3.0 and 5V*3A(Type C charging) in one port. Something about the guidelines.
Tronsmart did it anyway, and made it work. Dunno what the issue is about anymore.
While Benson Leung did great on pointing out the defeciencies in the market, I think this scare is already blown out IMO.
But more importantly, thank you so much for the review. ??
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I don't know enough about electronic circuits to say there won't be an issue seeing as I'm finishing a degree in Petroleum Engineering which is quite different. I'm not concerned about it killing my phone unless evidence shows otherwise, but I can't state that people should buy it because of what was mentioned. I still really like the charger, and I will continue to use it daily because its nice. I hope the issue gets sorted out sooner rather than later. I PM'd Tronsmart about the discrepancy, and I will post their response in the OP. I think out of spec A-C cables are more of a hazard personally, but the Tronsmart ones are in spec are made correctly.
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I don't know enough about electronic circuits to say there won't be an issue seeing as I'm finishing a degree in Petroleum Engineering which is quite different. I'm not concerned about it killing my phone unless evidence shows otherwise, but I can't state that people should buy it because of what was mentioned. I still really like the charger, and I will continue to use it daily because its nice. I hope the issue gets sorted out sooner rather than later. I PM'd Tronsmart about the discrepancy, and I will post their response in the OP. I think out of spec A-C cables are more of a hazard personally, but the Tronsmart ones are in spec are made correctly.
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Interesting, I find that aukey also released a similar charger with quick charge 3.0 and the type c port(the same as the tronsmart one). Also put the quick charge 3.0 into the type c port. Can't post the amazon link here now. You can search"aukey type c charger" then you can find it.
OP Updated [12/29] with even more information regarding the Type-C standard. It creates more confusion, but also clears some other things up.
jisddwqs said:
Interesting, I find that aukey also released a similar charger with quick charge 3.0 and the type c port(the same as the tronsmart one). Also put the quick charge 3.0 into the type c port. Can't post the amazon link here now. You can search"aukey type c charger" then you can find it.
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According to Benson Leungs post that charger doesn't meet the USB standard. I think Qualcomm is misleading some of these manufacturers by having their QC 3.0 standard not meet the USB one.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0119DC9O6/ref=yo_ii_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Anyone know if this one is safe to use?
Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input
AntikytheraTech said:
Hey all, just acquired my new Pixel XL. It's my first USB-c device so need to get some new cables... I was looking at USB-c car chargers on Amazon but not seeing any rave reviews on much. Do you all have any recommendations? Is there a certain standard of charger that is best for the Pixel (I.e. quick charge 2.0 or 3.0 etc)?
Thanks everyone for your input
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The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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The pixels use usb-pd and not quick charge 2.0 or 3.0. Currently, there is not a lot of great options. there are a few threads taking about it in this forum.
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Check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3474205
Shout out to @Nathan-K and Benson. I've spent hours reading their G+ pages and Amazon reviews and I'm blown away by the work they're doing trying to hold manufacturers accountable and keep consumers safe.
Tl;dr - most are junk currently, and some are even dangerous. 1 specific Verizon version for usb-c pd (TYPECPDVPC ONLY!) is the most acceptable one.
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Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04
I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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I would stick with your existing USB - A charger and get a A to C cable.
None of the USB-C chargers are anywhere near good.
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So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..
I have no clue with micro > C adapters. The OEM A>C cable works great and make sure any 3rd party A > C cables should have the required 56kΩ resistor.
I am using a few of these from Anker on an old .5a Moto charger, older Anker car charger and an extra thrown in my work bag.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A6F3WHG/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
aholeinthewor1d said:
So there's no issue using an old micro USB charging cable? I planned on using my old ones and I purchased a 2 pack of USB-C to Micro USB adapters from Amazon. Can't seem to get clarification about the micro USB chargers..
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Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
EDIT: make sure you bookmark that google spreadsheet and check it for up to date~ info.
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Of course there is an issue, you need to use either use a micro to c adapter with a 56k ohm pull-up resistor in it or a an approved a to c cable that also has a 56k ohm pull-up resistor.
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Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?
Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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That visnic is no longer even on the spreadsheet
I got the v3 CCTA from tronsmart and returned it, the pixel sees it as a device when you unplug and plug it into 12v with car turned off/not powering socket..
The 27w Belkin is now considered bad after further testing has shown it to allow the pixel to backfeed power.
Oh, all Belkins are now in the bad -2 recommendation..
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aholeinthewor1d said:
Well that's why I asked.. lol
So the adapter that came with the phone is ok to use with old micro USB cables?
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A Micro to usb type c adapter didnt come with the phone. You can use the USB A to C cable that came with the phone with legacy chargers.
Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.
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Has anyone plugged their pixel into an "old" charger and actually had an issue? I see lots of people going crazy about chargers and also see lots of people that use any old charger they have with a cheap adapter and they have no issue.
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I use my old charger with the oem a to c cable and my old a to micro cable with a micro to c adapter that has the 56k ohm resistor just fine, it's just slower than max, but no big deal. hardly ever have to use it, but have it just in case.
I have been using an old Anker pre QC charger and it has been working fine.
I haven't tried the QC3 charger in my wife's car yet.
For now the A>C cables with the 56 ohm resistor is the safe way to go.
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Droid_Junky said:
I just got this one two days ago based on Benson Leung's review. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B014F2NQ36/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
His review: https://www.amazon.com/review/R2Z6A...etail-glance&nodeID=2335752011&store=wireless
I found a link in one of these threads that has a easy to follow list. It doesn't appear to be updated so some of the newer items are not listed: https://usbccompliant.com/
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Plus one. Have this and love it.
I use this one I bought off Amazon. Been using it for a while. Never had any problems with it. Rapidly charges my pixel and you can charge 2 items at the same time. Check it out for yourself.
Belkin
The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm. Same is true for the Google 6p wall charger. I sue that with the Pixel also. Any thoughts?
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The Belkin 15 watt used to be recommended as it was the charger for the 6p. I have used it with the 6p and now the Pixel. Not sure why it went from 2 to -1. Obviously it does not do PD with the Pixel, but I cannot see it doing harm.
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I would guess the change is for charging as noted. There are some further comments about a lack of IR drop compensation circuitry in the Google+ information below. I view the list as simply somewhat subjective opinions from an engineer, and like you said, I couldn't find comments in Google+ to suggest the Belkin you're talking about might pose a threat to a phone. My previous Razr M would tend to lose power when charging and using navigation, so I may just keep the Belkin PD model and see what happens with a replacement, in spite of the current -2 in the list.
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dxxeQtDTXuW?sfc=true
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Check out this spreadsheet it has chargers on it and one is type car. There are no perfect PD chargers at the moment (18W) AUKEYCC-Y7 and Verizon 27w TYPECPDVPC are the least bad. It is probably best to take the 3W hit at the moment and go for a 15W non PD car charger like the Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK or Nomad B015NN0OKO. Personally I have gone for the AUKEYCC-Y7 PD charger as although not perfect it is at least cheap.
Bear in mind that some chargers come with a fixed USB-C charging cable. Ones that are cable less will need a decent cable as well. Decent ones cost as much as the chargers. So given the current price I recommend going for the Belkin 15W charger with built in cable
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...x9dMDWqENiY2kgBJUu29f_TX8/edit#gid=1288176877
AUKEY CC-Y7 20 USD
https://www.amazon.com/Charger-Deli...F8&qid=1481192204&sr=8-1&keywords=AUKEY+CC-Y7
Belkin 15w F7U005bt04-BLK 25 USD (On sale!)
https://www.amazon.com/Belkin-USB-I...6&sr=8-1-fkmr0&keywords=Belkin+15w+F7U005bt04
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I bought two of the AUKEY ones and have been using them without issue and they charge fast. Using a choetech USB c to c cable on one of them and an Anker c to c on the other.
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Some further information has been posted on the Belkin car chargers:
F7U004bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/fKDKFYqnWt1
F7U005bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/dgqeFSM19bd
F7U006bt04-BLK
https://plus.google.com/102612254593917101378/posts/SYq8iPEGv2Y
I recently received a CHOETECH USB A-C Cable with Current Voltage Monitor for review and I have got to say its come in really handy so far.
I've always wondered just how much current I was getting from my many chargers that all claimed to be up to 2.4A. I know from there various different charge times that they weren't all providing what they marketed at. This tool has come in really handy for helping me weed out the good chargers from the bad.
Before anyone comments that this cable wont allow my nexus 6p to charge at the 3A that it is capable of I know this already, but this cable has allowed me to test me standard USB-A port powerbanks and car chargers that I still use with USB A-C cables. I know USB-C equivalents are available but I don't see the point in replacing my old chargers for the benefit of 600mA.
The CHOETECH cable comes in a nicely presented package that gives basic info about the product.
The cable is neatly coiled up using rubber bands to keep it safe in transit and the instructions that come with it are both clear and concise.
Using that cable is as easy as just plugging it in and it works straight away, alternating between voltage and current.
I found this cable to be alot more accurate than apps that I have tried to use in the past giving me results that I would expect to see from the charging device I was using.
Usings a mains adapter gave me the best charging current while a cheap nasty car charger gave me very poor current but I suspected this from my charge times. Apps I had used in the past gave me very unreliable results so I am glad I've bow got this cable.
I'll definitely get my use out of this.
On a side note, even without the volt/ammeter this is still a very good quality charging cable and it doesn't interfere with data transfers. I would definitely recommend to anyone interested.
If anyone in the UK is interested in one if these cables or the Micro USB equivalent I've got some discount codes that reduce the price down to £6 which is a bargain for these cables.
USB C Cable with Current Voltage Monitor (3.3ft)
Code: 5M9WY7AX (price:£6)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MTX38LW
Micro USB Cable with Current Voltage Monitor (3.3ft)
Code: 5M9WY7AX (price:£6)
Link: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01MYW7GZ3
Hope someone can make use of these.
Great stuff, thanks for the post faybarn. I just bought one of their USB-A to USB-C cables (without current / voltage monitor though).
is there any other options on this that's available to ebay or aliexpress???