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Does the international model have an unlocked bootloader? Will the US model ever become unlocked?
Yes international have unlocked bootloader, AT&T and Verizon has a locked bootloader.
If you like Exynos, but international.
Which model is the fastest?
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Which model is the fastest?
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Hard to say. They are both fast but SD Version has faster cores
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some swear by snapdragon (us), some swear by exyonos (int)
I got the international simply because I can root NOW and use titaniumbackup/tasker fully aware that I will never have wifi calling
is there a difference? probably.
is benchmark same as real world usage? no
is it a game breaker on either one? prob not, and I am not going to lose sleep over the "wrong one" that I got
I will get the international model then. Thanks.
i just got my international model and i LOVE it. Exynos is the way to go.
Was your device region and sim locked? Or did you just put in your tmo/att sim and it worked?
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Was your device region and sim locked? Or did you just put in your tmo/att sim and it worked?
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i bought it from ebay and it was sim/region unlocked security sealed from samsung. popped my sim in and rock n roll.
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i just got my international model and i LOVE it. Exynos is the way to go.
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Where is your device made from??? Korea or vietnam
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Where is your device made from??? Korea or vietnam
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Vietnam
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exynos 8890 is faster in real life test. also battery will last longer then Snapdragon 820
Does Samsung Pay work in the US with an international version? I heard it doesn't.
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Does Samsung Pay work in the US with an international version? I heard it doesn't.
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Nope. Only us version works for now. Had an unlocked att one for a few days before I bought int version on ebay. Samsung pay not available on international version... yet.
Hey gang,
I purchased this phone on eBay, it was brand new, still sealed in the plastic. My question is, IMEI.info reports this as an Exynos processor. Does this make sense, based on this being a T-Mobile branded phone?
Thanks!
flyingmedic said:
Hey gang,
I purchased this phone on eBay, it was brand new, still sealed in the plastic. My question is, IMEI.info reports this as an Exynos processor. Does this make sense, based on this being a T-Mobile branded phone?
Thanks!
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I wouldn't worry about it mate, i'm in the UK and mines Exynos, apparently slightly faster than QUALCOMM.
I’m not worried my friend, was just curious if my bootloader is unlocked ?
Oh right hehe, pass
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I’m not worried my friend, was just curious if my bootloader is unlocked
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Yes. You have the International Varient - with EXYNOS Processor - that is the unlocked bootloader - only snapdragon processer varients have locked bootloaders.
Good luck
Ady1976 said:
Oh right hehe, pass
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Heheh, ?
Geekser said:
Yes. You have the International Varient - with EXYNOS Processor - that is the unlocked bootloader - only snapdragon processer varients have locked bootloaders.
Good luck
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Thanks!
I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
sofir786 said:
Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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I was afraid that would be the case.
Thanks for letting me know.
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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flash exynos rom on snapdragon , great idea if you want a brick. No joke, it won't work for sure. and if you flash the Exynos firmware with odin , including bootloader , it would be an hard brick, won't turn on , no more recovery or download mode, just completely bricked. So just no. and wifi calling is nothing to do with the phone but with your carrier and or your current subscription. if your carrier doesn't support wifi calling you won't have that option, so other firmware or even force to show that option changes nothing as you would have the same carrier .
and of course a csc (firmware depend of the country) works only with the right SIM card , I mean samsung block the phone if you use an American SIM card on a European phone. European phone works only with European SIM card and European carrier
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The phone does work ok here in the UK along with 4g. I don't expect to get. As good coverage though. Are you sure it wouldn't work?
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Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
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Trying to flash an EE UK firmware that's designed for exynos variant will fail, the 2 aren't compatible, so whatever you have with it you are u unfortunately stuck with
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OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
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OK thanks very much for your help.
Regards
Simon
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Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
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Out of curiosity, what sim is in there atm?
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It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
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It's an unlocked phone no sim card with it. It says unlocked on the box. The model number is smg955u1
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Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
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Sorry I just realised what you meant.
It's got my EE SIM in it.
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Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
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Snapdragon variant phones don't support the band's here in the UK so I don't think it will work. Vice versa an exynos variant won't work in the US
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Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
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Dude what?
http://m.gsmarena.com/network-bands.php3?sCountry=United+Kingdom
https://www.frequencycheck.com/mode...-sm-g950u1-sm-g950w-samsung-dream#frequencies
Supports all 3 lte bands used by the UK, 800 1800 and 2600.
Supports all 3 GSM bands used by the UK.
Supports all 3 utsm bands used by the UK.
So in other words you were 100% incorrect
All of the high end phones have been quad band in the us for years.
I really hope this guy didn't just blindly listen to you and dump his phone for cheap.
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The other person could not be more incorrect your phone works fine in the UK, along with every other high end us phone for the last like 10 years
I hope you still have it and didn't dump it for cheap because someone decided to open their big mouth without actually checking that their gut reaction has any basis in reality.
I don't know if there is full CSC support for the UK carriers, but all u1 phones are direct from Samsung and sim unlocked at the factory so you will be able to pop any uk sim in there and be able to use data/sms/voice etc no problem. What provider do you use? I can check my /system/omc directory and see if it's preinstalled by the standard is CSC package.
It's also quite likely that if not you can install the local CSC package that comes with exynos phones on yours. Not only are the other posters 100% wrong about the SD/exynos phones habing incompatible operating systems*, but even if there was a shred of truth to it the CSC package is mostly config files and images and whatnot anyway, so there little execution going on
*It has nothing to do with exynos or snapdragon they are both arm64 lol. If anything it's because Samsung kneecapped them to make sure it wasn't possible for licensing/snapdragon bootloader security or some other stupid thing.
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Hi
Thank you so much for taking the time to write such a long and in depth reply.
I did reply to the guys post earlier stating that it the phone works absolutely fine on 4g LTE. I just thought he misunderstood me. Or vise versa. I've not dumped the phone because it works fine. Even if I can't get WiFi calling sorted I will still be keeping it. As long as I can still get updates ota I will be happy..
I bought a note 5 a few months ago not realising it was an AT and T model. That was a pain because it was stuck on lollipop and wouldn't accept any ota updates without an AT AND T sim card.
So I was just a bit wary of that happening again. But with this phone being unlocked I'm sure updates will be just the same as UK phones. (hopefully).
Just for the record my phone is running on E.E. carrier.
I've not checked if it's ever been rooted before.
How would I check?
Would a root checker app do this?
Thanks again
Simon.
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Ah okay cool, Have you checked if it's ever been rooted at all at any point?
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Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
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Hi
The phone is not rooted now but I'm not sure how to check if the phone has been rooted before in the past.
Thanks
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There is no way to tell if the phone has been system rooted which is all that you can do to the us s8
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I've just bought a galaxy s8 plus on gumtree and just realised it's an American unlocked version. I wanted to flash EE firmware to enable Wi-Fi calling but I'm not sure if it's still possible using Odin as the uk phones have different chipsets.
Can anyone confirm either way?
Thanks in advance.
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I bought my Galaxy S8 from New York, after a while I realized that my phone is US unlocked version, now I live in UK and I don't get any updates for my phone at all since last year, I tried to flash it but it didn't work.
Is there anyone who is using Note 20 ultra N9860 hong kong variant in India? I have couple of queries before purchasing it.
How are you purchasing it?? Who ships it to India?
Why though? People going through much trouble with importing foreign Snapdragon when exynos is almost as equal. Barely noticeable, if even.
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Why though?
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Because he wants to.
Just like how we all want to use what we feel like. Cheers.
Brava27 said:
Why though? People going through much trouble with importing foreign Snapdragon when exynos is almost as equal. Barely noticeable, if even.
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I actually agree with this, and it even appears that the Exynos may have a couple of advantages over the Snapdragon - support for dual-SIM 5G and (supposedly) faster updates. That said, I am importing the Snapdragon HK SM-N9860 because I planned to import a dual-SIM model anyway (we only get single-SIM 128GB as the base model in Canada), and it has the Snapdragon, 256GB and Samsung Pay.
If I were in a country that had the 256GB Exynos dual-SIM, I would not hesitate to get that over importing the Snapdragon model, not least for the warranty coverage and access to Samsung service and support...
I ordered the 256gb, 12gb ram exynos and rooted it. Very happy than sd Canadian ones locked down lol
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I ordered the 256gb, 12gb ram exynos and rooted it. Very happy than sd Canadian ones locked down lol
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Where did you order from, @Brava27? I think I might have seen some Exynos on EBay, but as the SD was the same price or cheaper and I had no plans to root, I went for that. Also, are you getting 5G on your Exynos?
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Where did you order from, @Brava27? I think I might have seen some Exynos on EBay, but as the SD was the same price or cheaper and I had no plans to root, I went for that. Also, are you getting 5G on your Exynos?
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No 5G bands in Canada are compatible. LTE is fast enough for me. Maybe next year's model. The only compatible 5G phones were the Canadian models.
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How are you purchasing it?? Who ships it to India?
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From ebay nevermsp . Will get shipped to my cousin's house who is in USA. His parents are coming to India in October. They will take it with them.
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Why though? People going through much trouble with importing foreign Snapdragon when exynos is almost as equal. Barely noticeable, if even.
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I played with exynos here in India for some time and it was getting really hot. Also, many users are reporting about worst battery life on exynos as compared to snapdragon one.
Moreover, exynos model in india is expensive. More than INR90000 but from nevermsp, i will get n9860 at less than INR80000
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I played with exynos here in India for some time and it was getting really hot. Also, many users are reporting about worst battery life on exynos as compared to snapdragon one.
Moreover, exynos model in india is expensive. More than INR90000 but from nevermsp, i will get n9860 at less than INR80000
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Looks like all the Note20 Ultra models have the bands you would need: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/IN/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra
JimzFreebies said:
I played with exynos here in India for some time and it was getting really hot. Also, many users are reporting about worst battery life on exynos as compared to snapdragon one.
Moreover, exynos model in india is expensive. More than INR90000 but from nevermsp, i will get n9860 at less than INR80000
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Zero heat issues here. For some reason people freak out when a phone gets a little warm lol.
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Looks like all the Note20 Ultra models have the bands you would need: https://www.kimovil.com/en/frequency-checker/IN/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra
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Yes it has all bands that my country supports but then why users in uae & few in uk not getting volte?
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Zero heat issues here. For some reason people freak out when a phone gets a little warm lol.
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I myself checked it bro. Exynos variant getting hot in few minutes.
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I myself checked it bro. Exynos variant getting hot in few minutes.
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Yeah, ok
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Yes it has all bands that my country supports but then why users in uae & few in uk not getting volte?
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Well, given that we definitely know from these threads that some users in the UK are getting VoLTE, I would suggest that it's not the phone...
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Well, given that we definitely know from these threads that some users in the UK are getting VoLTE, I would suggest that it's not the phone...
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Can confirm, I get VoLTE on EE in the UK, can't use 5G though on his phone as it is currently broken (4G works fine though)
Hello.. Can anyone share the model numbers for the SD 865+ based version for Note20 Ultra, preferably with maximum compatibility with the IN networks (I am in India., so Vodafone/Idea etc.)?
Sorry, no intention to hijack the thread! and also apologies if this is already discussed!
Thanks!
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I played with exynos here in India for some time and it was getting really hot. Also, many users are reporting about worst battery life on exynos as compared to snapdragon one.
Moreover, exynos model in india is expensive. More than INR90000 but from nevermsp, i will get n9860 at less than INR80000
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I am using it since a couple of weeks and I would say that its not so bad. Initially we play with the phone a lot more and also do demanding tasks. Battery life could be better but I get 5.5 hours of SOT time. A quick top up of half hour is more than enough to manage.
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A quick top up of half hour is more than enough to manage.
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Do not like to do this at all before the day ends, with a full battery in the morning.
I'm thinking to buy this phone through verizon I would like to know if this phone is rootable?
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god_of_wisdom said:
I'm thinking to buy this phone through verizon I would like to know if this phone is rootable?
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If you absolutely need to be able to root it, I'd buy something else. I don't think it is likely that the Snapdragon models will be rooted.
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The N986O, HK Snapdragon variant is rootable, I think what you mean in the bootloader can't be unlocked on the U.S models
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The N986O, HK Snapdragon variant is rootable, I think what you mean in the bootloader can't be unlocked on the U.S models
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Ah, thanks. That said, I feel like rooting your phone meant more a few years back. When CyanogenMod was around and even Magisk (?) modules, I think that was the name. With the Note 8 and 9 I didn't really see an advantage of it, but that is just one man's opinion.
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The N986O, HK Snapdragon variant is rootable, I think what you mean in the bootloader can't be unlocked on the U.S models
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So only the eynox can be rooted not our variant in usa
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So only the eynox can be rooted not our variant in usa
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Yes. I'm rooted with exynos in Canada, model N986B and it works fantastic.
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So only the eynox can be rooted not our variant in usa
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Correct. No root for US Snapdragon variants. There probably never will be either. If you need root/bootloader unlock go buy yourself an unlocked Pixel or OnePlus device. Stay far far away from any Verizon branded devices. They even lock down the Pixels and OnePlus
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Correct. No root for US Snapdragon variants. There probably never will be either. If you need root/bootloader unlock go buy yourself an unlocked Pixel or OnePlus device. Stay far far away from any Verizon branded devices. They even lock down the Pixels and OnePlus
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Im still trying to figure out in 2020 why people need to ask if a north american samsung device let alone a verizon device can be rooted.
Imagine if there was a search button or something like that people could use here to look for these commonly asked questions lol .
Sorry couldn't help it guys lol:angel:
His choice is clear, either exynos like Brava has or a HK or Korean snapdragon...if he wants root.
If he wants roms, kernels etc then definitely go exynos.
5g working is another story entirely but something to consider if it matters to the user.
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I'm thinking to buy this phone through verizon I would like to know if this phone is rootable?
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Well Yes apparently from what this article says:
https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-note-20-ultra-root-us-unlocked-snapdragon-865/
I was going to buy the Note 20 Ultra Exynos to be able to have call recording by changing the CSC to thailand ... but if I can have the snapdragon would be much better... Can anyone that has used that share their experience with this service? I would pay $150 to have the call recording. Even if don't want the LIMITATIONS of rooting but would prefer to have the better Battery life of the snapdragon... This seems like the only way to get call recording on a snapdragon phone... Can someone help with more info on this?