Downgrade from 5.1 to 4.3 - Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey,
I just wanted to know: is it possible to downgrade to 4.3 from the 41.1A (5.1) bootloader?

You can go back to KitKat, however the Stock Motorola OTA Update system is in no way designed for down-graders.
If you accept an official OTA Update, you will join the others who have done so, and end up with a phone destroyed beyond repair.
If you flash the factory firmware images - you will get constant notification nags to update.
This zip when flashed via TWRP will disable OTA Updates:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62399952&postcount=674​
The Optimized KitKat ROMs here are the safest choice:
[ROM][4.4.4][STOCK][FLASHABLE ZIP] Stock Motorola KitKat ROM Collection​

lost101 said:
You can go back to KitKat, however the Stock Motorola OTA Update system is in no way designed for down-graders.
If you accept an official OTA Update, you will join the others who have done so, and end up with a phone destroyed beyond repair.
If you flash the factory firmware images - you will get constant notification nags to update.
This zip when flashed via TWRP will disable OTA Updates:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62399952&postcount=674​
The Optimized KitKat ROMs here are the safest choice:
[ROM][4.4.4][STOCK][FLASHABLE ZIP] Stock Motorola KitKat ROM Collection​
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So I can't go to 4.3 anymore?
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kevvvoliveira said:
So I can't go to 4.3 anymore?
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Apologies. No, Stock Jelly Bean 4.3 is not possible once you upgrade the Bootloader. You should be aware that there is a serious Battery bug with anything less than Stock Android 4.4.4 - the phone will randomly shut off without warning.
There are no custom ROMs (i.e CM) based on Android 4.3 available for Falcon that I am aware of.

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[Q] Rooted on 4.3 want modern ROM

So I have the t-mobile moto G, it's rooted and running 4.3 and I want to upgrade to a modern ROM based off 4.4.4 but it doesn't seem to work whenever I try to install one (doing a clean install) it has issues. I can't upgrade to 4.4 OTA update that they keep trying to send me and am kind of stuck, what do I need to do to put a modern ROM on my phone?
firstname said:
So I have the t-mobile moto G, it's rooted and running 4.3 and I want to upgrade to a modern ROM based off 4.4.4 but it doesn't seem to work whenever I try to install one (doing a clean install) it has issues. I can't upgrade to 4.4 OTA update that they keep trying to send me and am kind of stuck, what do I need to do to put a modern ROM on my phone?
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1. Unroot
2. Flash stock through fastboot. (If you already have stock rom, just flash recovery if you modified it.)
3. Do the ota update
4. Reroot if you want.

[Q]How do I retry Lollipop OTA flashing procedure? I'm stuck!

Here's the scenario:
I converted Moto G XT1033 4.4.4 to GPE 4.4.2
Then upgraded to GPE 4.4.4 and GPE 5.0.1, both by OTA
GPE 5.0.1 OTA ended up in softbrick
So now I cannot repeat the process beacause of the new bootloader, GPE 5.0.1 OTA brought with itself. And that bootloader would cause a hardbrick if I tried GPE 4.4.4 OTA on the device now
Questions: (No question is related to the other)
Would I be able to install Stock Lollipop OTA when I get one on 'Stock rom'? (I can revert to Stock 4.4.4) Would Stock Lollipop OTA mess up with the current bootloader, GPE Lollipop OTA has installed?
Is there any way I could flash Lollipop Stock image later, when it's available?
What can I do to set things right with the 'bootloader messup' that's caused right now?
Thanks, in advance!
emarld2011 said:
Here's the scenario:
I converted Moto G XT1033 4.4.4 to GPE 4.4.2
Then upgraded to GPE 4.4.4 and GPE 5.0.1, both by OTA
GPE 5.0.1 OTA ended up in softbrick
So now I cannot repeat the process beacause of the new bootloader, GPE 5.0.1 OTA brought with itself. And that bootloader would cause a hardbrick if I tried GPE 4.4.4 OTA on the device now
Questions: (No question is related to the other)
Would I be able to install Stock Lollipop OTA when I get one on 'Stock rom'? (I can revert to Stock 4.4.4) Would Stock Lollipop OTA mess up with the current bootloader, GPE Lollipop OTA has installed?
Is there any way I could flash Lollipop Stock image later, when it's available?
What can I do to set things right with the 'bootloader messup' that's caused right now?
Thanks, in advance!
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You are another who has made a stupid mistake, you should HAVE READ MY THREAD!
You need to wait untill the Lollipop Factory images are published, then we can get a blankflasher and restore your bootloader.
Once your bootloader is working again, you can flash Lollipop without problems.
You need to wait 1 or 2 months.
GI0\/\NNI said:
You are another who has made a stupid mistake, you should HAVE READ MY THREAD!
You need to wait untill the Lollipop Factory images are published, then we can get a blankflasher and restore your bootloader.
Once your bootloader is working again, you can flash Lollipop without problems.
You need to wait 1 or 2 months.
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Nope. I did read your thread after softbrick. And that's why I didn't install any OTA's after v5's.
I flashed 4.4.4. It's not an OTA!
I'm currently running 4.4.4 on 5.x bootloader.
Now what I'm asking is,
Would I be able to install 5.x OTA when I get it?
Before the factory image and all that thing.
PS: 5.x hasn't arrived for general public in INDIA yet. What I was trying was Brazil OTA.

[Q] upgrade/downgrade from 5.0.1 soak and 4.4.4 optimied to 5.0.2 Retail?

Hi,
I have two Moto G 2013 XT1033 Dual Sim and for both of them - i dont care about losing data and reinstalling - I want to get to a 100% STOCK 5.0.2 state. Dont need root or customer boot.
No 1) Upgraded from 5.0.1 Soak Test Brazil - 220.21.25.falcon_umtsds.Brasil.en.BR, no root, stock bootloader > to 5.0.2 using the incremental ZIP that was provided in some of the recent posts here.
Will I be getting automatic OTAs from now on? Is this equivalent to stock flashing 4.4.4. an then OTAing up to 5.0.2?
No 2) Optimized non-stock firmware 4.4.4, with bloatware reduced etc. dont remember who made the ROM - also Retail, but bootloader unlocked and have root
What is the best approach to this one to a stock 5.0.2, no-root, locked bootloader, is there just a single binary stock 5.0.2 file that I can flash?
Should I downgrade both to 4.4.4 Stock and then upgrade via OTA?
I know for (1) there exists an incremental update, how safe is this?
For (2) the OTA arrived, but as its an optimized ROM the update does not work.
I know all the information is somewhere here, I just was confused what path is safe and if its not possible to simply flash some binary recovery (ideally already to 5.0.2)
I think you should back to 4.4.4 than upgrade to 5.0.2
For back to stock 4.4.4 you can use this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2854688
upgrade to 5.0.2 try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3004757
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khensin said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2854688
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One of my malware protection tools rejected the untouched brazil 4.4.4 download. Where do I find the original files and confirmed hashes?

How to downgrade? (ANSWER QUICK PLEASE!)

I installed the Android Lollipop 5.0.1 GB OTA after flashing the Stock GB 4.4.4 firmware last night then flashed TWRP 2.8.3 and Aero Kernel. Now I'm thinking of selling my phone to upgrade to the second generation Moto G thus requiring me to reset the phone entirely, how would I go about this without bricking my phone? (Phone is XT1032)
I would flash back to stock 4.4.4 and OTA to 5.0 so the biyer doesn't have the ripple effect on the phone.
I had a phone with stock Telus 5.02 and I was able to downgrade to stock 4.4.4. Just don't try to flash motoboot.img.
Don't forget to flash a new logo too so the buyer doesn't see the unlocked bootloader warning.
So how would I go about doing that? Do you have a thread I could follow the steps of?

Is there a way to get Lollipop again after a downgrade?

Ok, so here's the thing: I have a US retail XT1032.
I flashed the GPE Kitkat into my phone to get the Lollipop update back when there was no Lollipop for US retail. When I had the GPE Kitkat, I did the OTA to Lollipop 5.0.1.
After that, I tried to OTA to 5.1, but the upgrade stopped suddenly and no upgrade was made. And here's where I screwed up.
A friend of mine told me that, from Lollipop onwards, you couldn't upgrade unless you had a locked bootloader. So I tried to lock it. The problem is that I couldn't find the 5.0.1 GPE firmware, so I foolishly thought that I could use the 5.1 directly. That rendered my phone stuck at bootloader. So I downgraded to Kitkat and now it works.
I'd like to get back to Lollipop, but when I try to flash the GPE 4.4.4 ROM, it fails at every step. I don't want to try the Motorola OTA because I'm afraid something may go horribly wrong again, and because I don't want the Motorola firmware but the GPE.
Is there a way to do that, or am I stuck in Kitkat?
You can go here and see if you can find the appropriate firmware for your phone.
Wipe, flash and reboot.
BTW, OTA updates will fail every time if you do not have a completely stock system including stock recovery.
Firmware Image Index: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/general/index-moto-g-falcon-factory-firmware-t3110795
Custom Recovery Flashable zips: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/development/rom-stock-motorola-lollipop-rom-t3017510

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