Hi, reading through the forums, it sounds like rooting a Note Pro 12.2 on Verizon is either very difficult, or impossible? I'm going to buy one of these for either VZW or AT&T to test for my team of 6 salespeople to use in the field and would need it to be rooted so we can use multi window on all apps. Would prefer VZW because I have most of my devices there now and use Message+ which is awesome for texting on all my devices. But if I have to go AT&T to root, I'll do that - I think this functionality is more important to us. I'd appreciate any input you have on this, and also if someone would be willing to walk me through the rooting process I'd be happy to compensate. Thanks, Scott
moransw said:
Hi, reading through the forums, it sounds like rooting a Note Pro 12.2 on Verizon is either very difficult, or impossible? I'm going to buy one of these for either VZW or AT&T to test for my team of 6 salespeople to use in the field and would need it to be rooted so we can use multi window on all apps. Would prefer VZW because I have most of my devices there now and use Message+ which is awesome for texting on all my devices. But if I have to go AT&T to root, I'll do that - I think this functionality is more important to us. I'd appreciate any input you have on this, and also if someone would be willing to walk me through the rooting process I'd be happy to compensate. Thanks, Scott
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Rooting the Verizon model is very easy as long as it is on Android 4.4 (Android 5.1 was recently released for it and is not rootable)
The instructions here are what I used, they are very straightforward: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795630
The downside to the carrier models is that they have locked bootloaders.
So even though you can get root access you wont be able to install Roms or alternate recovery images and such, so you would be stuck on android 4.4.
You would be able to do everything you normally could do on a rooted 4.4 stock rom though.
I have the Verizon model (SM-P905V) and I love it, I currently have a T-mobile sim in it and it gets LTE with no issues.
if you want to be able to root, install a custom recovery and install roms as well as have mobile Broadband you would need the international LTE model (SM-P905) but they are increasingly hard to find for some reason.
firefly6240 said:
Rooting the Verizon model is very easy as long as it is on Android 4.4 (Android 5.1 was recently released for it and is not rootable)
The instructions here are what I used, they are very straightforward: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795630
The downside to the carrier models is that they have locked bootloaders.
So even though you can get root access you wont be able to install Roms or alternate recovery images and such, so you would be stuck on android 4.4.
You would be able to do everything you normally could do on a rooted 4.4 stock rom though.
I have the Verizon model (SM-P905V) and I love it, I currently have a T-mobile sim in it and it gets LTE with no issues.
if you want to be able to root, install a custom recovery and install roms as well as have mobile Broadband you would need the international LTE model (SM-P905) but they are increasingly hard to find for some reason.
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Thanks for your response firefly6240, I appreciate it!
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Just read some posts in the towelroot forum, and I had some questions - but first, a little about me:
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4g LTE (Sprint) and I just switched to Ting (uses all Sprint towers & devices, just an a-la-carte payment plan as opposed to monthly)
Anywho, all this Knox business (and acquiring root for the S5) is new to me (but I am no newbie when it comes to root, just my first time owning a Samsung device.) I havent even had this phone for 24 hours yet.
Just wanted to know what build/kernel/Android version you were on when you attempted towelroot?
I am on Android 4.4.2 - Build: KOT49H.G900PVPU1AND2
I did not install the System OR Software Update that is in my notification list after activation. (Pretty much same rules were for the HTC Evo 4G LTE, it would update the bootloader to a version that was considered "unmoddable" at the time) and for that phone it was also called "S-OFF" (S stood for Security) - Im guessing Knox is somewhat similar...?
Also, what is the preferred root method for the G900P? I only know of towelroot and CF-Auto-Root (sp?) - I know Chainfire makes apps specifically for Samsung devices, but read an old post on another site that CF's method will "trip" Knox... is that still accurate?
Just wanted to be 100% confident in what I'm doing, before I attempt anything. (Again, I have a lot of experience in HTC devices; not so much with Samsung) :/
Any help regarding my device and acquiring root without "tripping" Knox is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance! - zmag
zmag said:
Just read some posts in the towelroot forum, and I had some questions - but first, a little about me:
I'm coming from an HTC Evo 4g LTE (Sprint) and I just switched to Ting (uses all Sprint towers & devices, just an a-la-carte payment plan as opposed to monthly)
Anywho, all this Knox business (and acquiring root for the S5) is new to me (but I am no newbie when it comes to root, just my first time owning a Samsung device.) I havent even had this phone for 24 hours yet.
Just wanted to know what build/kernel/Android version you were on when you attempted towelroot?
I am on Android 4.4.2 - Build: KOT49H.G900PVPU1AND2
I did not install the System OR Software Update that is in my notification list after activation. (Pretty much same rules were for the HTC Evo 4G LTE, it would update the bootloader to a version that was considered "unmoddable" at the time) and for that phone it was also called "S-OFF" (S stood for Security) - Im guessing Knox is somewhat similar...?
Also, what is the preferred root method for the G900P? I only know of towelroot and CF-Auto-Root (sp?) - I know Chainfire makes apps specifically for Samsung devices, but read an old post on another site that CF's method will "trip" Knox... is that still accurate?
Just wanted to be 100% confident in what I'm doing, before I attempt anything. (Again, I have a lot of experience in HTC devices; not so much with Samsung) :/
Any help regarding my device and acquiring root without "tripping" Knox is greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance! - zmag
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Check out the root thread sticky in general section.
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CCallahan said:
Check out the root thread sticky in general section.
Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
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To add to this I just purchased a S5 coming after an S1 and S3.
I am wondering if I have to worry about any updates on sprint locking me out. My S3 is on Verizon and luckily I rooted it before they came out with the update that locked it out. Can I go to the newest version that my phone wants to update me to without any fears of being locked out in the future?
JurKZ said:
To add to this I just purchased a S5 coming after an S1 and S3.
I am wondering if I have to worry about any updates on sprint locking me out. My S3 is on Verizon and luckily I rooted it before they came out with the update that locked it out. Can I go to the newest version that my phone wants to update me to without any fears of being locked out in the future?
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Currently for the Sprint 900P (not the 860 Sport) NE5 is the latest build and I have not heard of anything being patched to not allow root.
However, it is best practice to always wait on taking any new Sprint updates until the devs have time to look into it and make sure root is still possible. There is no way for anyone to know what Sprint/Samsung/Google will patch in future updates. It usually only takes the dev community about a day or so to confirm whether existing root methods will still work.
I have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy s3 the prepaid version which is the I535PP and I've rooted it using towelroot and have flashed bootstrap recovery. Its still on 4.3. I accidentally deleted the SDM.apk file and can't upgrade to kit Kat. Has anyone had any luck flashing a tw 4.3 rom to this version and get it to boot or maybe have the stock firmware or the SDM.apk file for tw 4.3?
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I have the Verizon Samsung Galaxy s3 the prepaid version which is the I535PP and I've rooted it using towelroot and have flashed bootstrap recovery. Its still on 4.3. I accidentally deleted the SDM.apk file and can't upgrade to kit Kat. Has anyone had any luck flashing a tw 4.3 rom to this version and get it to boot or maybe have the stock firmware or the SDM.apk file for tw 4.3?
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I have the SDM.apk, I have no idea why I kept it however. You can indeed flash a 4.3 TW rom only if your on ML1 on 4.3
From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
I got mine yesterday.. its on 4.3 sdm downloaded kitkat but i rooted with towelroot and froze sdm I know 4.4 is extremely locked down and towelroot nor any other method works to root the 535pp on 4.4... any development with 535pp yet? Carbon rom?
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I got mine yesterday.. its on 4.3 sdm downloaded kitkat but i rooted with towelroot and froze sdm I know 4.4 is extremely locked down and towelroot nor any other method works to root the 535pp on 4.4... any development with 535pp yet? Carbon rom?
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No development at all with the pp version
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I really hope I am not holding off for no reason.. is 4.3 any less locked than 4.4? I hope by not going to 4.4 they come out with a custom recovery for 4.3. If its locked either way then I would way rather be on 4.4 once they have a way to root this phone kicks ass so far! I had a sch-i535(lte) on VZW prepaid network and had access to the 4g network and they gave me a sim for free, but this 3g only phone keeps reception better and loads pages faster(no switching back and forth between 3-4g) It was well worth $150 at walmart
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I really hope I am not holding off for no reason.. is 4.3 any less locked than 4.4? I hope by not going to 4.4 they come out with a custom recovery for 4.3. If its locked either way then I would way rather be on 4.4 once they have a way to root this phone kicks ass so far! I had a sch-i535(lte) on VZW prepaid network and had access to the 4g network and they gave me a sim for free, but this 3g only phone keeps reception better and loads pages faster(no switching back and forth between 3-4g) It was well worth $150 at walmart
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They are both locked as you know, 4.3 just had more TW roms available. Nice price also. The only recovery available for either locked bootloader is safestrap
Towelroot works for the 4.4.2 NE1 build as far as I know. If they send anymore updates beyond that root will more than likely be lost though
From my CM11 S3
There is no NE1 build for the 535pp i believe.. I could be wrong but I think the firmware is totally different
dldennis76 said:
There is no NE1 build for the 535pp i believe.. I could be wrong but I think the firmware is totally different
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Your right it very well may be, I don't have the pp version so to be honest I was just going by what I already know
From my CM11 S3
I cant wait until they sell enough of these for it to be popular enough to develop and hopefully 4.3 can really be developed
dldennis76 said:
I cant wait until they sell enough of these for it to be popular enough to develop and hopefully 4.3 can really be developed
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I'm leaning towards it not being in development as most people don't use the prepaid version for the point of rooting it and using custom roms. Your more than likely out of luck
From my CM11 S3
Can someone provide me with contact info of some devs that I can contact that may take the project up? I think the phone will gain popularity now that verizon prepaid is not highway robbery anymore.. $45 a month unlimited talk/ text 1gb data and can buy extra 3gb packages for cheap that instantly start working when the 1gb is over.. I recently just started seeing the phone for sale so it is fairly new release. I may be able to talk whoever into working on it. Who do I contact to get a "Verizon Prepaid SCH-I535PP" board in the main index?
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Can someone provide me with contact info of some devs that I can contact that may take the project up? I think the phone will gain popularity now that verizon prepaid is not highway robbery anymore.. $45 a month unlimited talk/ text 1gb data and can buy extra 3gb packages for cheap that instantly start working when the 1gb is over.. I recently just started seeing the phone for sale so it is fairly new release. I may be able to talk whoever into working on it. Who do I contact to get a "Verizon Prepaid SCH-I535PP" board in the main index?
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Look around the VZW S3 development forums, I'd look for threads that are somewhat up to date as far as posts and look for the OP (original poster)
From my CM11 S3
I recently pick this phone up with the intent to flash it to straight talk(my current provider). Since the st gs3 is at least 100 dollars more it was a bargin. I was successful flashing over to st. voice, text, mms and data work flawlessly.
Im just curious if anyone has had any luck finding or devolping any kind of roms for it. I realize there is a small crowd for these phones but I can see its popularity will increase a little bit. I held out on the ota as well and stuck with 4.3 w/ towelroot and safestrap.
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I recently pick this phone up with the intent to flash it to straight talk(my current provider). Since the st gs3 is at least 100 dollars more it was a bargin. I was successful flashing over to st. voice, text, mms and data work flawlessly.
Im just curious if anyone has had any luck finding or devolping any kind of roms for it. I realize there is a small crowd for these phones but I can see its popularity will increase a little bit. I held out on the ota as well and stuck with 4.3 w/ towelroot and safestrap.
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I'm nearly sure there won't be any development for the prepaid version. The contract version is the only one that would be in development going forward at this point
My S3 running BlissStalk
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dldennis76 said:
This phone is fairly new sold at walmart the prepaid 3g cdma only version of verizon GS3 prepaid. It will gain in popularity. It comes with 4.3 and can be rooted with towelroot. It tries to upgrade immediately to 4.4 ut just freeze SDM to shop it. 4.4 cannot be rooted with towelroot. Anyway, can someone please refer me to someone to contact in developing stuff for this phone as the firmware is different than the reg. Sch-i535. Any developers want a new project i will donate and assist(dump my system or whatever) thanks,
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As I suggested in a previous post of yours you'll want to look in the development forums for current devs who are still supporting the contract S3, it's merely a matter of doing a quick search inside the development forums
And being that it's on the 4.3 bootloader, it's locked down, the only possibility are bootloader locked roms but a dev would have to have this specific phone to be able to create a rom for it and there wouldn't be much as far as roms go
From my CM11 S3
Long time android user that just upgraded to the Verizon Note 5.
I see plenty of custom roms and root methods for other variants. ...are we just screwed on the Verizon variant?
I'm still in my 14 day period, so may return if root and custom ROMS aren't available
No root or unlocked bootloader = no ROMs.
Root may happen someday, but I doubt it. At least not a 'full' root with system folder write access.
So if ROMs and root are important to you then return the phone immediately.
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tsitalon1 said:
Long time android user that just upgraded to the Verizon Note 5.
I see plenty of custom roms and root methods for other variants. ...are we just screwed on the Verizon variant?
I'm still in my 14 day period, so may return if root and custom ROMS aren't available
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Verizon's Note 5 is locked down tight. Just look at the Note 4, it's still not rootable. If you want to play with ROMs, go with Nexus 6P
Bummer!!
I do like the phone very much though, are any of the other variants compatible with the Verizon network.
Have thoughts of returning this model and buying one that works with CDMA and can be rooted. ..is there such a thing?
This is Verizon! So no, no other variant will have complete compatibility with the Verizon network.
If you want rom's, you'll have to either switch to tmobile and get a note 5 with them, stay on verizon and get a nexus 6 or s6/edge.
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tsitalon1 said:
Long time android user that just upgraded to the Verizon Note 5.
I see plenty of custom roms and root methods for other variants. ...are we just screwed on the Verizon variant?
I'm still in my 14 day period, so may return if root and custom ROMS aren't available
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flash this with odin & enjoy root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-samsung-note-5-verizon-sm-n920v-6-t3556646
mustafa_thora said:
flash this with odin & enjoy root
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ve...ot-samsung-note-5-verizon-sm-n920v-6-t3556646
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I beg your pardon, but that is clearly not a real rooting solution.
A quick read through the comments (including one unfortunate flasher) reveals that it's nonsense. Please don't share things like this. It makes this forum worse!
Has anyone been able to get a working root / ROM for the J3 Eclipse on Verizon yet? It would be so nice to be able to remove all this bloatware Samsung UI and apps since the phone isn't all that fast in the first place. It has been years since I rooted any phone so maybe I am just overlooking something, been searching but no luck so far.
From what I can tell,your J3 is identical to ours on Sprint, Boost and Virgin Mobile. Our TWRP may be compatible with your device. @ashyx would know better than I. Hardware wise they appear to be the same. Now software is another matter. Your partitions may be different than ours so I do not advise a flash of our recovery. But it is worth asking those that know more about it. Will depend on whether your bootloader is locked also.
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Has anyone been able to get a working root / ROM for the J3 Eclipse on Verizon yet? It would be so nice to be able to remove all this bloatware Samsung UI and apps since the phone isn't all that fast in the first place. It has been years since I rooted any phone so maybe I am just overlooking something, been searching but no luck so far.
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