Want to buy Z3 - Xperia Z3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi everyone.I need to choice between this phone and lg g4.I really like design and especialy water resistancy on z3.Thing that interest me is camera.I have read before that isnt good in auto mode?I dont like power button and size of the lg g4 but camera quality is important for me.Tnx in advance

slobo2712 said:
Hi everyone.I need to choice between this phone and lg g4.I really like design and especialy water resistancy on z3.Thing that interest me is camera.I have read before that isnt good in auto mode?I dont like power button and size of the lg g4 but camera quality is important for me.Tnx in advance
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I'm very happy with camera quality. I think people expect too much from it sometimes because they compare it to a stand alone camera.
It's a smartphone.... not a canon or Nikon camera
For everyday use its pretty damn good.
I don't know about G4 though so if you can find a comparison video or something online it might give you more info. I'm sure you'd be happy with either, but as a Z3 user I can tell you the camera is decent and if you know how to use it can get some damn good shots.
Good luck in your choice and don't rush it. Might have that phone for a while so get the right one for you

Dobsgw said:
I'm very happy with camera quality. I think people expect too much from it sometimes because they compare it to a stand alone camera.
It's a smartphone.... not a canon or Nikon camera
For everyday use its pretty damn good.
I don't know about G4 though so if you can find a comparison video or something online it might give you more info. I'm sure you'd be happy with either, but as a Z3 user I can tell you the camera is decent and if you know how to use it can get some damn good shots.
Good luck in your choice and don't rush it. Might have that phone for a while so get the right one for you
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Thank you very much for answer ill think abot that
Anyone else?

honestly ,For the Camera go to G4 .
z3's camera IS good but g4 has a great camera.
FYI Im only talking about camera

g4 has a better camera. But has a heating problem because of snapdragon 810. And the battery life is not just as good as Z3 but way worse. I would go for Z3 however you can think of a different phone. Because Z3 is becoming a bit outdated.

lamacun said:
g4 has a better camera. But has a heating problem because of snapdragon 810. And the battery life is not just as good as Z3 but way worse. I would go for Z3 however you can think of a different phone. Because Z3 is becoming a bit outdated.
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G4 uses SD808, I think.
As for me Z3 is really good phone. Good battery, bright display, everything works fast and stable. Personally I would go for G4 mainy because it's never and has better specs. There are a lot of comparison and review videos in youtube. If you care about development, G4 has a littlebit better support in custom ROM's such as CM, and Z3 has mostly moddified stock ROM's. But for Z3 these ROM's feel better for me than CM.
Just don't rush to buy a phone that someone reccomends. Everyone has different needs and taste

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Best android devices camera

this thread to show the openion of all android users about them camera and its unique criteria of them vaviorite.any ploaded picture of your faviorite device is welcomed.no special test and no offend to any company its only your openion to the smart mobiles you used...
i will start with my faviorite .. i loved htc cameras from the start.as i had my 1st htc device (htc evo 3d) just becuase its wonderful cam.it was 5mp only but had a very conventional resolution.and its 3d picture was a real chaleng.
for now i find htc one is one of the best. as the new era of cam technology started by them....
write about what you think in your device cam.
Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
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Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
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Yup I tried already many phones and in see that one x has still one of the best cams... Even s3/s4 aren't that good like all people are thinking... My opinion because of even some tests even my old HD2 and the DHD from my dad are making better pics then any Samsung phones until s3 and some LG phones so htc camera software is even in stock really good optimized )
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htc one have the best camera ever ! :laugh:
I don't think so
dddmp4 said:
htc one have the best camera ever ! :laugh:
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Sharp Aquos SH-02e has the best camera right now. I really wonder why it hasn't surpassed the crappy samsung chinese phones that everyone into consumerism seems to think is an awesome phone.
and btw, I have it.
HTC cam..still the best...look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652642
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
I'm not much of a photographer myself, but, bizarrely, the camera spec of a phone is an important factor.
Throughout my years of buying phones, I have seen that Sony has proved themselves, in my eyes, as the best manufacturer of smartphone cameras.
Why?
My first REAL camera phone was the SE K800i, for the time, it was fantastic. I didn't find a phone with a better camera for a while after that.
Then I bought the SE Satio, 12MP at a time when most phones seemed to have 5MP or lower, its flash was incredible and its night pictures were incredible, it even produced better images than my dad's Nokia N8, another 12MP phone released at a later date.
The Xperia arc S was a downgrade in MP to the Satio, but its images were of similar quality.
I then got the Xperia T, which had an awesome 13MP camera.
My Xperia Z has a great camera, but it has one fault; Sony's camera software compresses the image too much.
Overall, I'd say that, at the moment, the Xperia Z/Galaxy S4 have the best cameras (They both use the same sensor).
Probably followed by the HTC One, which can sometimes have worse pictures in light conditions (Though generally better in dark conditions).
For those interested in camera-phones, I'd suggest looking into the yet to be announced Xperia i1, which has a 20.7MP sensor, and an ISO much, much, much, higher than that of the HTC One, theoretically meaning better pictures in low-light conditions.
shadowhacker27 said:
Sharp Aquos SH-02e has the best camera right now. I really wonder why it hasn't surpassed the crappy samsung chinese phones that everyone into consumerism seems to think is an awesome phone.
and btw, I have it.
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your openion is respected . but notice that really most the phones are china made even iphones.and htc itself despite the great manifacture it is china made. ould you upload a picture from your faviorite device to have an idea.
i just checked this device.really its a good one.still waiting for your samples
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
I'm not much of a photographer myself, but, bizarrely, the camera spec of a phone is an important factor.
Throughout my years of buying phones, I have seen that Sony has proved themselves, in my eyes, as the best manufacturer of smartphone cameras.
Why?
My first REAL camera phone was the SE K800i, for the time, it was fantastic. I didn't find a phone with a better camera for a while after that.
Then I bought the SE Satio, 12MP at a time when most phones seemed to have 5MP or lower, its flash was incredible and its night pictures were incredible, it even produced better images than my dad's Nokia N8, another 12MP phone released at a later date.
The Xperia arc S was a downgrade in MP to the Satio, but its images were of similar quality.
I then got the Xperia T, which had an awesome 13MP camera.
My Xperia Z has a great camera, but it has one fault; Sony's camera software compresses the image too much.
Overall, I'd say that, at the moment, the Xperia Z/Galaxy S4 have the best cameras (They both use the same sensor).
Probably followed by the HTC One, which can sometimes have worse pictures in light conditions (Though generally better in dark conditions).
For those interested in camera-phones, I'd suggest looking into the yet to be announced Xperia i1, which has a 20.7MP sensor, and an ISO much, much, much, higher than that of the HTC One, theoretically meaning better pictures in low-light conditions.
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at 1st i thought at 1st that u dont intrested in cameras but u r in fact expert.i know you r sony minded and like the sony devices and your welknow rom that i use for my xperia tx.sony is a pioner in digital cameras no doubt.my TX is realy astonishing in the day light but not that good in dark light. we all waiting for xperia i .and i hope u make your rom for that device as it is very fast and smooth.
what you think about nokia cameras?
Alex-V said:
HTC cam..still the best...look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1652642
Sent from my HTC One X using xda app-developers app
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thnx for your comment.alex.. do you think the roms that we use can impruve the cam function more than the stock software? and can you giv us an example....
DroidIt! said:
Well I've never had anything by HTC phones but think that my one x probably takes the best photos out of the phones that I've had. Pictures always come out really crisp and sharp unless I'm in really low light. So my vote would be for the one x
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droidit.... do you think the viper rom added more abilities to your device(htc onex) abilities???
Hey guys,
the oneX cam is pretty nice and there is a cool thread from @Shan89 about a glitch which is improving pictures @ night.
When you´re flashing viperX you can choose a camera mod which i think gives more menu options and the ability to save uncompressed jpgs...
correct me if i´m wrong...
the glitch is still working with this mod.
i also like camera fv5 because it supports custom exposure time or whatever its called in english...
you can create bizarre photos in the dark or do some light paintings...
cant speak for other devices... before the hox i used a HTC Prophet
cheers
cant speak for other devices... before the hox i used a HTC Prophet
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sure you are right and no mistakes.thnxx alot for telling me about shan89 thread i missed it. i hope if you try htc one cam.i think you will be intrested..
thanks all I think HTC cameras the best if we compare them with other cams in the same specification
I have never personally tried a Nokia phone but wondered how the Lumia with it's 42 mp camera stacked up against other phones. Don't know if that really makes a difference or not but would be really interested to find out. Hey bldy, yeah I think with all the extra options we get to tweak in the software has made a pretty big difference. I find that I can control a lot more of the variables when it comes to taking pictures. I still do have a standalone Sony cybershot for taking pictures if I know I'm going to be taking a lot of photos,but Ithink our cameras produce pictures about on par with that.
from my Viped out one x
bldysurgeon said:
at 1st i thought at 1st that u dont intrested in cameras but u r in fact expert.i know you r sony minded and like the sony devices and your welknow rom that i use for my xperia tx.sony is a pioner in digital cameras no doubt.my TX is realy astonishing in the day light but not that good in dark light. we all waiting for xperia i .and i hope u make your rom for that device as it is very fast and smooth.
what you think about nokia cameras?
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That reminds me, I need to update that ROM, but can't get the updater-script right.
My dad has had a few Nokia phones, his N8, for example had an 12MP camera which wasn't as good as my Satio (worse pictures in dark light, slight yellow tint in pictures), but compared to other phones, it was still great.
He now has a Nokia Lumia 820 and he hates it. It has an 8MP camera, dual LED flash, but it is simply horrid. Photos are too dark and saturated, and photos with a backlight are terrible. It is one of the worst camera phones I've used.
Nokia only seems to put great cameras onto it's flagship, because from what I have heard, the 920 has a great camera.
An annoying thing with Windows phones is the lack of options for the picture. You can't tweak individual settings for your pictures.
Sent from my 3rd (Yes, that's right: 3rd) Xperia Z
xL3thalTuRdZz said:
That reminds me, I need to update that ROM, but can't get the updater-script right.
My dad has had a few Nokia phones, his N8, for example had an 12MP camera which wasn't as good as my Satio (worse pictures in dark light, slight yellow tint in pictures), but compared to other phones, it was still great.
He now has a Nokia Lumia 820 and he hates it. It has an 8MP camera, dual LED flash, but it is simply horrid. Photos are too dark and saturated, and photos with a backlight are terrible. It is one of the worst camera phones I've used.
Nokia only seems to put great cameras onto it's flagship, because from what I have heard, the 920 has a great camera.
An annoying thing with Windows phones is the lack of options for the picture. You can't tweak individual settings for your pictures.
Sent from my 3rd (Yes, that's right: 3rd) Xperia Z
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i told you .... you are really expert. now tell me,do your rom can add to the picture quality ? programs like sony pravia or else, do u think are better on you rom or other roms rather than stock rom?
DroidIt! said:
I have never personally tried a Nokia phone but wondered how the Lumia with it's 42 mp camera stacked up against other phones. Don't know if that really makes a difference or not but would be really interested to find out. Hey bldy, yeah I think with all the extra options we get to tweak in the software has made a pretty big difference. I find that I can control a lot more of the variables when it comes to taking pictures. I still do have a standalone Sony cybershot for taking pictures if I know I'm going to be taking a lot of photos,but Ithink our cameras produce pictures about on par with that.
from my Viped out one x
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i had a good experiance with nokia devices.i had( nokiaclassic 6200..xpress5800 ,n8,n9,e7)and gaveup with nokia and start the android line.
i liked them cameras but non of them approuched the htc devices.
droidit felch gave this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235072 about a bug which could be useful for picture quality.try it and u might like it and give us a replay.
bldysurgeon said:
i told you .... you are really expert. now tell me,do your rom can add to the picture quality ? programs like sony pravia or else, do u think are better on you rom or other roms rather than stock rom?
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Bravia Engine can only function on devices with a locked bootloader, if you have an unlocked bootloader, the BE isn't working, and won't for anyone. Ever.
If you have a locked bootloader the BE will be the same on every ROM (Unless somebody ports a newer version).

[Q] Deciding between buying z3 or lg g3.

Hi!
Deciding between buying a sony z3 the lg g3. According to my research the z3`s hardware seems to be a better fit for me but I get a little worried when i look at this xda forum section that the developer support seems pretty small. I like to flash new custom roms with new features so this feels kind of important to me.
Is sony not developer friendly? Or why is there not more custom roms in this forum.
Is z3 hard to root?
Is there any other problems with the phone from a rom developers point of view?
Thanks!
This subject has been discussed many times, so I doubt that you will get many answers. Here's my 2 cents:
Z3 is a newer device, therefore less development
When you unlock the bootloader you also lose some functionality (eg the DRM keys)
Less people will probably buy the Z3, because it will have a shorter life cycle
Sony is less popular amongst developers
But we just got official CM12 announcement, so I'm guessing that this will kickstart everything!
I had the same dilemma when I switched from Sprint last September. I had an LG G2 which I loved, but the G3 seemed like a downgrade and I preferred the G2s more uniform look. The G3 has much worse battery than the G2 thanks to the QHD screen which is also worse in terms of contrast ratio and brightness. Audio quality and camera are is it's only shining points.
Coming to the Z3, it feels more like the spiritual successor to the G2 than the G3 is. The Z3 probably has the best if not one of the best battery life. The Z3 also has dual stereo speakers fairly close to the M8 (M8 is better) in terms of quality. The camera is also great, just have to switch to "manual" as "auto" is very inconsistent. The hardware camera button is also useful. Performance wise I see no stutters or lags anywhere and the UI is fairly close to stock in appearance.
Only downside of the Z3 is quality control, I exchanged mine 3 times on my 4th now, due to cosmetic defects. T-Mobile replaced the device immediately in the first 14 days so I was ok with the hassle. Then again most people got a good unit on the first buy, so I am more of a minority. Then again even the G3 has had such issues like cracks on the housing near the aux mic.
Basically get the Z3, you won't regret it.
Sony more of quality product in general, I have hear a lot of people having issues with hardware with the LG, not saying Sony doesn't just LG is much more talked about. The rest of your answers are mentioned in the posts above
Z3 of course..
Before Z3, I used a G3 but couldn't stand the problems like overheating issues, laggy ui.
G3 also doesn't seem to be able to handle Multitasking as well as Z3 does. But it maybe because I bought a G3 with just 2GB of RAM.
So, in my opinion, Z3 is a better performer and gives you a significantly better battery life.
And since the official CM nightlies are now available for Z3, the development ofcustom roms is not much of a problem now...
Of course, G3 also has advantages over Z3, such as, bigger screen, front camera with wider angle, and some gimmicky software features.
My girlfriend just switched to a G3 from an S5 when she switched carriers. She says she likes it more than the S5...
I like it too, I really like the small bezels and how big the screen is compared to the phone. Although, the rear facing speaker is a draw back...
The laser auto focus works fast, and I wasn't able to get an "out-of-focus" shot on it. I think the Z3's camera is still better overall, detail-wise.
The 1440p screen is amazing, not that you can tell a difference pixel-wise... It just looks like a piece of actual paper.
The buttons on the back are tricky to get used to, but I found myself getting used to it quite quickly. Since I naturally rest my pointer finger on the power button, which might be difficult for people with smaller hands/enormous hands.
Someone also tested it in a sink of water, underwater for 2 hours and it still worked... Better than my last Z3 :crying:
I like both, I would go into a store and use both to see which one you prefer. I still prefer the Z3 for my needs.

Camera auto mode is horrible

Is anyone experiencing this, I don't see many threads?
Tonight I did a camera comparison with a friends IPhone 6 and the IPhone 6 was far superior in every sense. Images from the Z3 generally seem grainy and lack detail and sharpness.
I see a few people have mentioned that the camera is better of you manually set the options. This isn't what a smartphone is for when you need to snap a quick shot, by the time you've done all that you've missed the moment.
I swapped my LG G3 (which also took better shots) for this and I'm really underwhelmed by the camera on the Z3, which ironically is its main selling point.
Can anyone suggest some third party camera apps which would perform better?
Also do you think Sony will fix this, i owned the original Z and can recall having some camera issues. I didn't think they would still be present 4 years on.
The Z3 camera was hyped up so much, I really can't see why. Great on paper, not so good in the real world.
Xperia Z3 D6603
rm83855 said:
Is anyone experiencing this, I don't see many threads?
Tonight I did a camera comparison with a friends IPhone 6 and the IPhone 6 was far superior in every sense. Images from the Z3 generally seem grainy and lack detail and sharpness.
I see a few people have mentioned that the camera is better of you manually set the options. This isn't what a smartphone is for when you need to snap a quick shot, by the time you've done all that you've missed the moment.
I swapped my LG G3 (which also took better shots) for this and I'm really underwhelmed by the camera on the Z3, which ironically is its main selling point.
Can anyone suggest some third party camera apps which would perform better?
Also do you think Sony will fix this, i owned the original Z and can recall having some camera issues. I didn't think they would still be present 4 years on.
The Z3 camera was hyped up so much, I really can't see why. Great on paper, not so good in the real world.
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superior auto mode is basically a 8 mp with hdr and flash with some adjustments better go with the manual so you can choose a higher mega pixel.
nolihowell said:
superior auto mode is basically a 8 mp with hdr and flash with some adjustments better go with the manual so you can choose a higher mega pixel.
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I installed Pro Capture and it seems a lot better. Sony is doing half a job. You cannot supply excellent hardware and not take advantage of it with the software. It seems most people are impressed by the specs of the camera more than its ability to actually take a picture! I cannot believe how much hype surrounding this camera there was.
Have you tried the xposed module 'superiorauto 20mp'? which forces the SA mode to shoot at 20megapixels?

XZ owners do you recommend getting this phone now ?

Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
korom42 said:
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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I don't know about google pixel ,but the camera of xz i notice by myself is superior by the others. Lg g6 have worst camera than g5, in more moments is worst than midrange. But on wide angle cameras panoramas is good. Of course on wideangle distortion can became in some situation very visible (the distortion on sonyies are for wideangle lens but there are not that visible). But xz destroys g6 on camera...day and night photos. Galaxy s7 produces false photos. The photos on his amoled screen seems great but on reality have more defect. Too filters applied. Yellow and reddish photos .. For example a summer photo of a lake , became autumn photo of lake,thanks to samsung filters. On night photos is easy to shoot with this device but with some burned dettails. Xz on day destroys s7, on night depends . Xz produces more dettailed photos than s7. But s7 have ois and some photos on night are easier to shoot. One plus 3t have a mid range camera ....is a phone studied for modding expecially. Talking about xz i think is the most stable phone in my opinion ...probably op3t is on similar level. I reccomand xz expecially for stability and less problems. I have some friends with s7 and g6 and they have a lot of problems . For alternative to xz i reccomand op3t if you find one. Is the one with less problems like xz. Xz use great the snapdragon 820. 821 is the same processor with only better energy use. But sony,thanks to his great optimizzation, make tha 820 less battery drainer, like 821. Every month Sony release security patches there, before of most OEM. Device have very good performance and very good battery. Signal is great there, one of better phones to have best signal (i think better than your alternatieves). Modding is good there but not one of best(but it seems grow). Ram seems doesn't have any problems .Phone is rock stable and very fluid . Sony optimizzation is the best in my opinion. It doesn't have raw ...but post processing is very natural. Raw seems enable only on aosp roms. If you doesn't worry about modding, give a look on xzs. More ram,loops ui, xzp and xz1 camera with all great new features. But no modding. If you want, give me all questions about xz. I'm very happy with my xz.
Hi,
Also consider screen size.. the XZ is rather small compare to G6, OP3t.
Then it's also Amoled vs LCD but maybe more personal?
The only thing I'm not really happy with mine is battery life, was used to more for a Sony phone, you have to tinker around to get something acceptable. Also would have prefer an Amoled screen since I read a lot so once again better for battery
Personally I would pass on the G6, XDA thread seems empty and LG support bad..
Pixel camera would be the best I guess, but you loose waterproofing.
Then it's Sony over Samsung for me for the "media" experience, sound, ldac bT etc
Also camera is actually really good. Auto is OK+ but manual gives really good shot when you know what you do.
Sony need manual settings to take good pic in low light. XZ have the best display in the market now. Super bright red and clear white. Other colors are naturals and clear. Its no juicy like Amoled or washed like other TFTs. I had G5 with screen burn problem. It have too many phones G5 and V10 with this problem. I dont know for G6 but look at it. Pixel have no IP 68 and its no interesting for me.
One Plus - no thanks. So so tricky warranty service.
S7 is stupid. I feel it in hand like a soap. And Samy dont cover under warranty water damages. I have frend in official Samy service here in Bulgaria and he told me that IP 68 nevermind. Its nothing for Samy. Just commercials.
For me thats a 100% not recommended, looking at the alternatives you posted above; go for the pixel without hesitation. I've used both, the XZ is inferior in almost every aspect except for waterproofing.
Dont get me started on overheating and battery issues, i just came back from a hot area where the phone was almost unusable just because i was standing in the sun for a little bit; once the phone temperature hits 42, forget about being productive anymore, for me this disadvantage is bigger than all the advantages above (even if it had the best camera, screen, speakers etc...) since i cant actually use the phone.
Just get the forest blue XZ, and forget the others.
I running stock on mine, unmodified, September security patch and battery life is very excellent, no overheating.
And I have to agree Sony optimisation is exceptional, I run my phone once for 20 straight days without reboot or slow down, the phone was still smooth.
korom42 said:
Alright guys XZ it is thanks for everyone responded to me and shared his opinion/experience
For know please let me know if there are any known/common issues that maybe some units has to avoid especially since I am probably getting a "used XZ" :good:
For example I remember for Z5 many units had blurry left side in picture taken by rear camera, also screen bleeding, dead pixels ect..
I'm Z5 user looking to upgrade
Do you guys recommend this phone now considering other competitors
Ofc I'm a sony fan I like their desing, audio/display features, waterproofing ect..
But I'm concerned about the camera I've seen few camera comparisons especially this one it seems that Sony is still struggling with low light and still use same old pictures post processing without forget the weird dimensions distortions
Other alternatives I'm considering that I can get for about same XZ price tag in order
- Google Pixel (camera is DSLR level in my opinion/also better specs - not sure about the mic/audio issues though)
- LG G6 (better camera/specs)
- Galaxy S7
- Oneplus 3T(better specs)
Also another factor let's not forget that the XZs and XZP were already out, also XZ1 recently so at the best cases sony will still support XZ for next year/year and half
Also please let know if there are other things I'm might not be aware of that I should know
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IF you're not chasing for glamour and high end phones these days..e.g. pixel phones, Lg g6, etc.. then XZ still worth to buy. ...Otherwise if you're looking forward for OnePlus, i suggest go for OP 5 instead of OP 3T. Imho
*OnePlus, Pixel phones=Dev enthusiasts+Custom ROMs friendly

Can the camera improve through updates?

Hey guys,
I'm still on the fence of where or not to buy the Nex S. Generally speaking I'm convinced by it but even though I don't use the camera that much, it is still quite important.
Looking at reviews and test pictures it's worse than my OnePlus 3's which just seems absurd to me.
So is there any chance the camera could improve with future software updates or is the camera sensor itself just terrible?
And do we have to rely on Vivo for updates or could a 3rd party app improve the camera?
Thanks guys!
When Vivo puts out updates on this phone it always gives brief notes on what's being updated. I've seen camera updates in their notes with three of the past updates they've put out. I'm not a big user of cameras so I can't give you anything more than that. No pictures to compare the initial camera software release with the latest update. We'll have to wait for a reviewer on youtube to compare initial camera software with the latest release.
Just use the g cam with HDR+ version
Forget the stock app with any phones except
P20 pro stock app it is phenomenal
rowihel2012 said:
Just use the g cam with HDR+ version
Forget the stock app with any phones except
P20 pro stock app it is phenomenal
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Do you have the phone? Would you be able to post some comparison shots? I tried googling for some but haven't been able to find any.
I mean software can only do so much, right? So if the Camera is bad in terms of hardware, there isn't really much we can do about it, right? I unfortunately don't know a whole lot about cameras.
Cheesus182 said:
Hey guys,
I'm still on the fence of where or not to buy the Nex S. Generally speaking I'm convinced by it but even though I don't use the camera that much, it is still quite important.
Looking at reviews and test pictures it's worse than my OnePlus 3's which just seems absurd to me.
So is there any chance the camera could improve with future software updates or is the camera sensor itself just terrible?
And do we have to rely on Vivo for updates or could a 3rd party app improve the camera?
Thanks guys!
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Pretty sure it's way better than Oneplus 3. Its more than sufficient in its performance & if u know bit of quick tweaking on snapseed, you can pretty much get top notch photo with it in same comparison to note 8. It's better than Oneplus 6 btw. I am saying from my own 1st hand experience ofcourse.
sumit28june said:
Pretty sure it's way better than Oneplus 3. Its more than sufficient in its performance & if u know bit of quick tweaking on snapseed, you can pretty much get top notch photo with it in same comparison to note 8. It's better than Oneplus 6 btw. I am saying from my own 1st hand experience ofcourse.
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Hi, i do have the Vivo nex s.
My previous phone was the oneplus3.
The camera of the OP3 is way better.
Im thinking that's even my OPO had a better camera.
The phone is lacking focus, the AI messes up everthing andere even in 'profesional' mode the pictures are not better.
I like how the phone looks and feels, if you have a lot of patience setting up (if you have the Chinese version like i do) then this might be the phone for you.
If you want a phone with a good camera.. dont buy this phone
Wat u think?
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