Does anyone know how to backup data for an app that has backup disabled for it? I'm trying to backup snapchat through helium however I can't, as snapchat has backup for it disabled. I'm basically trying to backup snapchat so that I can backup the login token, and move it to another rooted phone; that way I can be logged into snapchat on two phones.
Yoshi910 said:
Does anyone know how to backup data for an app that has backup disabled for it? I'm trying to backup snapchat through helium however I can't, as snapchat has backup for it disabled. I'm basically trying to backup snapchat so that I can backup the login token, and move it to another rooted phone; that way I can be logged into snapchat on two phones.
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Did you ever figure this out?
Would a nandroid backup work?
EncryptedCurse said:
Did you ever figure this out?
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No I didn't, I gave up after a while.
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I just looked into this, and a nandroid backup requires root. I am attempting to backup the snapchat app data without rooting my phone.
I can't do an adb backup either, because snapchat has ALLOW_BACKUP set to "no", in its Manifest file.
I don't recall exactly how I did it, but I changed the ALLOW_BACKUP in the Manifest file to "yes", and after that I was able to login to snapchat and backup the app data so that I can be logged in on multiple phones. However the issue with this is that the snapchat is practically unusable on my non-rooted phone because I modified the apk file.
I'm not too sure on the technical aspect of how apk's work, but I believe because I didn't sign the apk using whatever signature snapchat uses, it results in the snapchat app being unable. It's unusable in the sense that I can't take pictures on it. However I am able to login to my snapchat, text others, and view other peoples' snapchats.
Actually root is not required. See the following...
https://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices
However, I saw on a different thread that if an app doesn't its private data backed up, you have no recourse. I suspect snapchat falls into that category. Anyhow, with a nandroid backup, I believe if you want to recover, you have to do it whole device (can't selectively restore individual app data). So that would be pointless anyhow.
Yoshi910 said:
No I didn't, I gave up after a while.
I just looked into this, and a nandroid backup requires root. I am attempting to backup the snapchat app data without rooting my phone.
I can't do an adb backup either, because snapchat has ALLOW_BACKUP set to "no", in its Manifest file.
I don't recall exactly how I did it, but I changed the ALLOW_BACKUP in the Manifest file to "yes", and after that I was able to login to snapchat and backup the app data so that I can be logged in on multiple phones. However the issue with this is that the snapchat is practically unusable on my non-rooted phone because I modified the apk file.
I'm not too sure on the technical aspect of how apk's work, but I believe because I didn't sign the apk using whatever signature snapchat uses, it results in the snapchat app being unable. It's unusable in the sense that I can't take pictures on it. However I am able to login to my snapchat, text others, and view other peoples' snapchats.
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What I ended up doing was installing Snapchat on Bluestacks, rooting, and then backing it up with Titanium Backup.
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What I ended up doing was installing Snapchat on Bluestacks, rooting, and then backing it up with Titanium Backup.
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You were never able to use the same login token on a non-rooted phone though right, by doing the bluestacks thing?
Yoshi910 said:
You were never able to use the same login token on a non-rooted phone though right, by doing the bluestacks thing?
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Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean. Are you asking if I was able to reuse the same backup multiple times? If so, I haven't tried, but you could probably unroot or uninstall Bluestacks and repeat the process.
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I am trying to restore files back to my reset OnePlus One using "adb restore <file>" but while the restore happens without error, some files/folders are not restored. I have checked the backup file and the files and folders are present in the backup file, yet adb restore does not restore them
My backup is created with this command:
adb backup -f backup.ab -apk -obb -shared -all -system
And I try to restore with this:
adb restore backup.ab
Especially in the /sdcard/Android/data are a lot of files and folders missing and apps are not getting restored to their working state.
How do I restore the backup properly? Do I have to push every single file/folder to the phone manually?
Never mind. I just noticed that the backup files did not care to backup the /sdcard/Android folder and I have lost all files.
Why is it so impossible to make a proper backup on Android?
I am so close to ditching android just because I cannot get a working backup/restore to work!
And no, my phone is not rooted as rooting erases my files. Chicken and egg problem. I really hate android here.
"adb restore" didn't restore any of my accounts! I am so very pissed about android right now. Such a "mature" platform and no working backup/restore.
Plenty of tools offering to make backup/restore, but the all require me to erase all data (root) making the backup moot. And those tools that do not require root cannot backup anything besides what "adb backup" offers to back up (which is more miss than hit).
I am really envious of Apple users here. They have perfect (so it seems) working backup and restore.
... and I cannot add the missing accounts because they are already created. So, none of my accounts were restored and even though all accounts are actually there, none of them can synchronize as they are not there.
And all this trouble just to fix non-working MMS which turned out not to work after a reset anyway. I hate really hate android. So f...... unreliable.
I seriously cannot recommend anyone to use adb backup/restore. This will totally mess up your phone. Copy files manually and write down all your accounts (type/username/password/all settings) create them manually afterwards. "adb restore" cannot restore accounts.
If everything is lost at this point might as well root now and use titanium backup or parcel in the future? Not sure if parcel can backup accounts, titanium backup can though
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If everything is lost at this point might as well root now and use titanium backup or parcel in the future? Not sure if parcel can backup accounts, titanium backup can though
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galmok said:
And no, my phone is not rooted as rooting erases my files. Chicken and egg problem. I really hate android here.
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Why didn't you just connect to your PC and copy your files across? Or at least research the phone before you bought it or started using it? If you unlock the bootloader when you receive the device the wiping that occurs during the unlocking process is a non-event.
There's no reason to "hate Android" because of this situation. There are several ways to make backups on an Android device, you just failed to unlock your device at the correct time. Just trying to put it into perspective a bit here.
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Why didn't you just connect to your PC and copy your files across? Or at least research the phone before you bought it or started using it? If you unlock the bootloader when you receive the device the wiping that occurs during the unlocking process is a non-event.
There's no reason to "hate Android" because of this situation. There are several ways to make backups on an Android device, you just failed to unlock your device at the correct time. Just trying to put it into perspective a bit here.
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I cannot copy everything to my pc. Accounts for instance cannot be copied. Same with system settings, Wi-Fi passwords and some apps do not survive the adb backup/restore (like Waze that enters a crash loop) and other apps just vanish. This system is not user friendly. There is no way I could make anyone I know accept this phone if they knew they couldn't back it up. They know nothing about rooting but they will not accept a non-working backup.
I at least tried (hard) to make a backup and restored it back and that was a horrible experience. I cannot help wondering why Google hasn't arranged android to have working backups. Apple has it and it seems near perfect compared to android.
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I cannot copy everything to my pc. Accounts for instance cannot be copied. Same with system settings, Wi-Fi passwords and some apps do not survive the adb backup/restore (like Waze that enters a crash loop) and other apps just vanish. This system is not user friendly. There is no way I could make anyone I know accept this phone if they knew they couldn't back it up. They know nothing about rooting but they will not accept a non-working backup.
I at least tried (hard) to make a backup and restored it back and that was a horrible experience. I cannot help wondering why Google hasn't arranged android to have working backups. Apple has it and it seems near perfect compared to android.
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Google does have backups, in the settings menu. Most of the system settings are backed up (and even if they weren't it should only take a total of ten mins to set them up again). Apps are backed up and downloaded again on a fresh install. It all works perfectly if you know what you're doing.
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Google does have backups, in the settings menu. Most of the system settings are backed up (and even if they weren't it should only take a total of ten mins to set them up again). Apps are backed up and downloaded again on a fresh install. It all works perfectly if you know what you're doing.
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Except I have apps that are not on Google Play. I cannot backup my Wi-Fi passwords and am forced to let Google keep a copy. And there are so many settings that 10 minutes is far from enough to find them all and fix them. And the point is, I shouldn't have to. I should be able to make a backup, preferably compartmentalized, and restore the sections I want, if not all. And it should be 1 tool.
Also, following a reset, the phone will begin reinstalling apps from Google Play and what happens if I begin adb restore at the same time? I didn't want to find out and let it install. But when some games use 1.5GB of storage, that takes a long time. Would be much faster if I knew I could use adb restore.
Oh well, I will have to accept the horrible backup/restore solution for this phone, but I really am envious of the backup/restore for iOS devices.
Hello all,
I've been searching this topic for a few weeks, and have yet to find a viable solution. I want to grab some files out of the app caches on the data partition of my Pixel 2. I don't necessarily want to root it, because I have no desire to modify anything, just want to view some stuff.
I've tried several backup apps - which have either failed because they need root, or "backup disallowed". I've also tried adb using pull, backup, cp, shell, etc. It seems a bit backwards to unlock the bootloader, wiping the device of the very data I'm trying to extract. It's been frustrating to not be able to access one's own personal data ?
Any ideas? Thank you.
+1 I'd love to have this answer as well. All my passwords are in Twik (Play store app). I don't think Google is backing up app data (or are they?). If I ever decide to flash the Pixel 2, I'll have to re-type all my websites, plus the private key. Twik is one of the few apps I rely on that isn't cloud based. I suspect the answer is there's no way on an unrooted android device.
Speaking of Google backing up app data, Google android says it can restore app and app data, but in my experience, unless the app uses cloud based data, it ain't happening. So why do they claim to backup app data? I suppose they are refering to Google apps, as of coarse, Google does keep your Google app cloud data anyway, so you'll have it restored when you log back into your android device.
You could try using Helium for backing up data. Even without root, if you follow the instructions (download the file to a Windows box and connect the phone to it) Helium should work.
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You could try using Helium for backing up data. Even without root, if you follow the instructions (download the file to a Windows box and connect the phone to it) Helium should work.
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I think I tried that once. But without root, it skips anything that has it's backup flag set to "false". Unless you know a way to trick it ?
Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks
kerngehirn said:
Hi,
i need help. How can i restore a nandroid from one oneplus 6 on another?
I tried to do it but ended up in a bootloop to recovery.
Original phone is rooted (which shouldn't be a problem, right) and encrypted and secured with pin, fingerprint and face unlock.
Is maybe the encrption the problem, or has it soething to do with A/B partitions?
Both phones were on the same version of OxygenOS and i used the same version of TWRP.
Any solutions?
Thanks
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But why would you want to do that?
Why won't you just transfer all your important files over to the other OP6 and just start fresh. Restoring your apps doesn't take that much time and you'll probably waste more time on getting your original plan to work.
It could very well be that encryption causes issues when trying to restore a nandroid backup.
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
kerngehirn said:
It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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But you can just save and restore Chrome sessions as long your logged into the same account right?
And I don't know why you think WhatsApp images will get messed up? Sounds more like a bad experience you had which was probably caused by an unfortunate bug/glitch or an user error. The build-in backup feature of WhatsApp never failed on me and just makes a backup on your GDrive and restores it when you log in with your number again. Manually transferring the WhatsApp folder is an alternative that works fine too.
And what are you planning to do when you get a new device? You'll definitely have to manually restore things then so why can't you now, doesn't take a full day to do so and actually works without issues. But to sum it up, I think you are wasting time by trying to restore a nandroid backup on an other device than it's originally created on.
You also might want to look into Titanium Backup, Migrate or it's alternatives. You can use those two apps to backup apps and their data and possibly more and restore it on a fresh system.
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It's the little things like for example all my open chrome tabs, or the whatsapp images that will be messed up after restore. And so on. It's just so much easier to continue where I left off. No restoring of apps and settings and whatnot.
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There are different apps for that such as Migrate, OAndBackupX or Swift which can backup apps as they are now and you can then restore them back to another device without any issues (particularly Migrate)
So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
beanbean50 said:
Google backup and restore is pretty good, it should restore your apps
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But I need the actual data of the app, does that come with Google backup and restore?
App in question is WhatsApp and I need the app including the registration etc on the new phone. Titanium backup can do that, but obviously needs root
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
beanbean50 said:
Whatsapp has its own backup and restore feature I use it all the time. It will restore all your data, chats etc but you have to log in first
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I know... that's exactly the issue though. I'm asking for a way to backup 1:1 so I don't need to do the login. Which Titanium Backup can do since it's does it with all the apps data, but that obviously needs root which I don't have. Hence I'm asking for help here.
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
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beanbean50 said:
I found this which doesn't need root not sure how deep it goes though
How to fully backup and restore your Android device without root
One of Android’s little-known tricks is its built-in backup and restore process that allows users to save their private data...
9to5google.com
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For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
M4-NOOB said:
For that I'd need a way to remove everything from the backup besides WhatsApp though. As that does a backup and restore of everything, all apps, all file system etc IIRC
Trying adb backup now, there seems to be a java tool that allows you to open the backup file on pc
GitHub - nelenkov/android-backup-extractor: Android backup extractor
Android backup extractor. Contribute to nelenkov/android-backup-extractor development by creating an account on GitHub.
github.com
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Unfortunately WhatsApp wasn't included in the full backup for some reason
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
beanbean50 said:
I just tried an app on play store called Swift Backup and it worked!
I made a backup of just whatsapp then deleted it and it restored it without signing in
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Is your phone rooted? Because all it does for me is apk backup, no data
hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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hmm.. yep I'm rooted
why can't you sign in to whatsapp on your new phone
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I'm living in the UK for a few more months, but still use my German number on WhatsApp. The number has since been retired so I can't get SMS/calls on that one anymore, so I'm unable to sign in.
I wish I would've rooted the phone....
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So I'm changing phones, but there's one app which I would have to backup including it's data. If I'd be rooted I could use Titanium Backup, unfortunately I'm not rooted.
Is there a way to root without wiping the phone or is there another way to backup the apps data (and restore) via adb or something else?
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Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
M4-NOOB said:
Is that the Samsung moving phones thingy? Does that move apps including it's data so you don't have to set them up again?
I usually avoid the moving data from phone to phone during setup, because I take setting up a new phone as an opportunity to clean up data/apps. So I only reinstall those I actually need
EDIT: Just tried it, sadly not:
https://imgur.com/gyCtmLs
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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Backup with ur whatsapp. Its too easy. Anyway, in case u cant do it, think u have to reset only single app (whatsapp - like ur screenshot), so u cant?
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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As mentioned in here, using the backup inside WhatsApp still needs you to sign in again on the new phone which isn't my goal. I want to backup ALL of WhatsApp including the sign in, so I can just move it to the new phone without logging in.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Then u have 2 options:
1 - Root your phone.
2 - Ask dev of Whatsapp to do something for u (for all too.lol). But i think it'll never come true. Its too risky for any apps.
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Yeah thanks, I know it's possible with root which I don't have and doing it wipes the phone which makes my whole reason for this pointless.
This whole post was just asking if there's any way to do it without root. If you can't help don't reply?
The title says it all. I've got this backup on the Google drive cloud from my old phone. There are no options to restore from it. Is the only time to restore from the old phone's backup at setup?!
I was wondering that too and I just assumed you could do so during setup by selecting the "cable doesn't fit" option or saying you didn't have access to your old phone. Not sure about after setup tho..
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I was wondering that too and I just assumed you could do so during setup by selecting the "cable doesn't fit" option or saying you didn't have access to your old phone. Not sure about after setup tho..
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I can't believe there's no other way to utilize our backups except during the time of setup ridiculous. Does anyone know if there's a way to get the backups on our new device after setup or how to force the setup menu?
It's not too tough, using ADB, or it doesn't appear tough (I haven't actually tried this, but retrieving and using the correct token-values seems pretty straightforward): https://developer.android.com/guide/topics/data/testingbackup
There do appear to have been some "launch apps" that were able to trigger this through a (hidden) system-app-launch, but I see zero mention in more recent (i.e. > A9) times...
My personal peeve is the fact that Google makes it incredibly difficult to access (can't even see these anymore on my Drive account), and create some sort of restore-point backup, of a device. You can use this same adb technique above, but what if you just want to "fiddle with some sketchy apps", or similar, and have a couple of bailout backups, it's sure not easy, by any stretch...
Just use Swiftbackup with Google drive. It backs up and restores all your apps, data, phone logs and messages
swieder711 said:
Just use Swiftbackup with Google drive. It backs up and restores all your apps, data, phone logs and messages
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I just moved my swift backup from my PC to my p7p. I'm ready to restore. Google seems to have done a good job restoring my apps through its backup. It didn't seem to restore any of the data though. How should I do the restore with swift? Do I just restore the data for system and user apps? Do I slrwatore the APKs too? Given that most of not all the apps have been restored by Google what happens if I restore the APKs with swift too? Will the apps be duplicated?
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I just moved my swift backup from my PC to my p7p. I'm ready to restore. Google seems to have done a good job restoring my apps through its backup. It didn't seem to restore any of the data though. How should I do the restore with swift? Do I just restore the data for system and user apps? Do I slrwatore the APKs too? Given that most of not all the apps have been restored by Google what happens if I restore the APKs with swift too? Will the apps be duplicated?
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I use Swiftbackup to restore apps with its data which works 90+ percent of the time. I think you can restore the apps again via Swiftbackup.
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I use Swiftbackup to restore apps with its data which works 90+ percent of the time. I think you can restore the apps again via Swiftbackup.
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understood. the question is if I select apps data and apps will it cause an issue if google has already restored a lot of the apps with its backup?
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understood. the question is if I select apps data and apps will it cause an issue if google has already restored a lot of the apps with its backup?
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I think Swiftbackup will just overwrite the apps that you restored from Google. I can't see any problem.
swieder711 said:
I think Swiftbackup will just overwrite the apps that you restored from Google. I can't see any problem.
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When I last used Swift to restore from backup all my apps were glitchy. I had started to clear data from them all to get them to work correctly, but ended up doing a factory reset. Restored from Google and everything was fine
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When I last used Swift to restore from backup all my apps were glitchy. I had started to clear data from them all to get them to work correctly, but ended up doing a factory reset. Restored from Google and everything was fine
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There was a bug using Swiftbackup to restore apps to a P7. It has been fixed.