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Bluetooth Security and Hacking

Hi folks;
I haven't had a Windows Mobile device in years - last time I had one it was still CE, so I have a bit of a learning curve to climb. I'm looking forward to it though; my HTC Trinity arrives in two days and I'm excited.
One thing I'm really curious about is Bluetooth security. I've read a fair bit recently about a lot of mobile phones / basic smartphones and how they severly lack any sort of bluetooth security, meaning other people can pair to your device without your knowledge to send you messages, copy files to/from the device via OBEX, that sort of thing.
I am wondering what sort of security I can expect out of a WM5 device for Bluetooth (and to some extent Wi-Fi as well). Can people pair with me without my knowledge?
Will my A2DP connection to my new Moto HT820's be easily eavesdropped? It probably uses that default 0000 key like most headsets do.
Also, what sort of tools are available to have a bit of fun with other people's Bluetooth phones? Are there tools for WinMo to send people SMS messages via BT, or listen to headsets, that sort of thing?
If that's against the rules around here, fair enough, don't post anything that would get us in trouble.
Admittedly, it's sort of a lame script-kiddie thing to do, but I think I'd get a kick out of it and I wouldn't do anything to harm someone's device - it would just be a fun learning experience to mess around with people's phones remotely.
It's also good to raise awareness of the relative insecurity of a lot of these personal-area networking devices.

A bump in case anyone has any ideas today.

mikesol said:
what sort of tools are available to have a bit of fun with other people's Bluetooth phones?
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I use btCrawler:
http://www.silentservices.de/btCrawler.html
You need to create this registry key if you want to use Bluesnarf:
\HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Mode\"ISC"=1 (DWORD)

I saw this thread over on Modaco yesterday http://www.modaco.com/The-Real-Bluejack-for-Pocket-PC-t250841.html
$6 was cheap enough, and it's very good.

Noob thread alert
omg how nooby is this post?
ok heres a very simple concept
bluetooth off = no access
bluetooth on = available access, however.
most phones these days (even if they support obex object push) have other securitys in place to stop these sorts of attacks.
im really sick of wana be "hackers" carrying on about bluetooth hacking, gawd go learn odbc or something usefull.
even if you could get into someones phone with your elite hacking skills what would you honestly get out of it, "wow look at me i can msg some complete stranger from someones phone book...."
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.

im sure people feel the same about you,when you approach a subject you not an expert or have relevanby experiance
people ask cos they dont know,if you dont like that simply close the page

noobs post about things they dont understand
that why they ask mate,we are all noobs in some field relax

the best way to secure your device while BT is on is to make sure its not discoverable.. Nothing is 100% (except leaving BT off completely)
Also Smurf is a cool little program, but it will only bluejack.. but certainly makes for some fun and odd expressions from strangers

st3v3 said:
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.
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A big percentage of posts in this forum are from noobs who post about things they don't understand, and as a community we try to be helpful between us whenever it's possible... and nobody told you to shut up when you posted about things you don't understand.

pof said:
A big percentage of posts in this forum are from noobs who post about things they don't understand, and as a community we try to be helpful between us whenever it's possible... and nobody told you to shut up when you posted about things you don't understand.
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err well actually no they didnt, maybe if you learnt to read it would be a good start!

st3v3 said:
omg how nooby is this post?
ok heres a very simple concept
bluetooth off = no access
bluetooth on = available access, however.
most phones these days (even if they support obex object push) have other securitys in place to stop these sorts of attacks.
im really sick of wana be "hackers" carrying on about bluetooth hacking, gawd go learn odbc or something usefull.
even if you could get into someones phone with your elite hacking skills what would you honestly get out of it, "wow look at me i can msg some complete stranger from someones phone book...."
sorry but as a programmer it really grinds my gears seeing noobs post about things they dont understand.
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Chill out dude, everyone is n00b in some area... In your case it should be in the area of being modest...
The xda community is here to help and offer solutions...

Alright, I would hardly consider myself a "noob" simply because I've only been posting here for a week or so. Perhaps once you learn to capitalize letters and spell words, your flames will become more effective.
The question was aimed at determining the level of security present in WM5 devices, and to see if there were any little easy fun programs to send messages or files, that sort of thing. I don't want to "hack" people to any serious extent, or I would fire up my Debian laptop and listen in to the communications that way.
Well, enough out of me. I'll let you get back to wanking it to pictures of Michael Moore.

everyone sit back and relax, have a drink, or smoke, or whatever you do to relax.. If the flames continue then i am going to lock this thread.. lets stay on the topic please. Now group hug, everyone kiss and make up
Just realize that not everyone knows everything about anything.. some people are noobs in some aspect, flaming isnt going to help anyone and thats what this community is about. If you dont want to be a part of that then you know where the exit button is at

Sorry, I probably went a little far on the defensive, but someone who can't even spell or type a complete sentence doesn't have much right calling someone he doesn't know a "noob".
I've bought that Bluejacker program, and it looks to be a pretty impressive tool. Most useful will be the ability to save OBEX transfers directly to my storage card - a few of my friends have overglorified HDD-based media players and I think they may have Bluetooth, so it should be interesting to try transferring movies around.

mikesol said:
Sorry, I probably went a little far on the defensive, but someone who can't even spell or type a complete sentence doesn't have much right calling someone he doesn't know a "noob".
I've bought that Bluejacker program, and it looks to be a pretty impressive tool. Most useful will be the ability to save OBEX transfers directly to my storage card - a few of my friends have overglorified HDD-based media players and I think they may have Bluetooth, so it should be interesting to try transferring movies around.
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thank you for coming back to the topic... what was the bluejacker that you bought?

AlanJC said:
I saw this thread over on Modaco yesterday http://www.modaco.com/The-Real-Bluejack-for-Pocket-PC-t250841.html
$6 was cheap enough, and it's very good.
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That's the one I bought. It needs a few bugfixes (mostly visual) but it made it a lot easier to get all my ringtones and whatnot from my old Sony Ericsson T610.

mikesol said:
That's the one I bought. It needs a few bugfixes (mostly visual) but it made it a lot easier to get all my ringtones and whatnot from my old Sony Ericsson T610.
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looks like i will have to check it from home.. [email protected] company firewalls

I've been using it a couple of days now. It's the best Bluetooth utility I have seen on the PPC.
It's a shame it's locked to my Uni though because sometimes I take the Wizard out as it's so much smaller, and I would have liked to use it on that on those odd days.
EDIT: 0vZ just contacted me on that MoDaCo thread to say a 2nd license is only $3 USD. Peanuts to pay for such a functional product, so I'll do that.

Oh and just a note to st3v3, no, this app isn't really *hacking*, but people's stupidity means you can probably quite easily download every text message on their phone.
Changing your BT name to "incoming message" or something and accessing a phone might bring up a message like "incoming message is trying to access your phone. Allow, yes or no"
Lots of people send files and send silly messages by BT now, most non-technical people would simply click yes, giving you OBEX, or AT access to their phone.
I didn't buy this app for this purpose, but I have just discovered how easy it is, I might have a little play.

yeah and its the same as on the old nokias if you have your name as blank (forget how to do that there was a way) any of the old nokias (ngage i know it works) would lock up becuase it wouldnt display the name.
still not what I would call hacking and being able to read someone’s text messages (which would require someone’s bt to be left on and that they had the right type of phone)
All in all its still a pipe dream of misconstrued wana be 15 year olds with nothing better to do than sit around telling their friends what elite hackers they are.

What now everybody?

I have done the battery mod, stock lock screen, and Cognition (latest version, voodoo enabled) on my phone. Im getting bored now even though the phone has everything I need/ want. Are there any other cool things Im missing or dont know about? I would like to know all of the cool, well what you think is cool, mods that you have done to your phone.

Learn to make your own roms. That should keep you busy for a LONG time.
Sent from my Samsung Captivate.
Current rom: Cognition 2.3b3

I actually have been thinking about making an app. Any ideas for a good app?

A Cifs.ko implementation for our Captivate. Don't worry, I keep mentioning it and no one seems to answer. . I'd do it myself but don't have a clue of where to start.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

I've always wanted to make an app for "ambient noise." I wanted my phone to "poll" the noise level before ringing and making adjustments appropriately. I like to have my phone on full volume for when I'm driving and got the radio up or out in the loud shop, but not so loud when I'm in a quiet enviroment such as a meeting, bank, store, etc.....
I see some problems with the idea such as delay on the ring and what not.....but I always thought it was a good idea....
And yes, I know how to put my phone I silent or hit the volume button to turn it down before hand.....jeez....I just like automation!

thatoneguy99 said:
I have done the battery mod, stock lock screen, and Cognition (latest version, voodoo enabled) on my phone. Im getting bored now even though the phone has everything I need/ want. Are there any other cool things Im missing or dont know about? I would like to know all of the cool, well what you think is cool, mods that you have done to your phone.
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I just fount the coolest feature. You touch the phone icon and push seven individual numbers. Then hit the green button that has a phone on it. If you wait a moment a "person" will start talking to you. It appears that AT&T has assign a different automated voices to each number combination. The voice recognition works very well because they seem to provide very logical responses. If you use the same number more than once the automated voice seems to become irritated and threatening. Some of the ones with "sexy voices" don't seem to work anymore. I think I used the number combination too many times. Maybe we should make a list of working codes?

Its actually a good idea. Seems do able i mean you have a microphone and they already have apps out there that will put your phone in a certain volume mode depending on appointments in your calendar. Theres gotta be a way. There are sensors that work for brightness so why not this? I haven't made an app before so it will be a huge undertaking for me but ill look into it and see whats possible. I love a challenge.

Really?
Shovelhead84 said:
I just fount the coolest feature. You touch the phone icon and push seven individual numbers. Then hit the green button that has a phone on it. If you wait a moment a "person" will start talking to you. It appears that AT&T has assign a different automated voices to each number combination. The voice recognition works very well because they seem to provide very logical responses. If you use the same number more than once the automated voice seems to become irritated and threatening. Some of the ones with "sexy voices" don't seem to work anymore. I think I used the number combination too many times. Maybe we should make a list of working codes?
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This is a joke or for real? If its for real then post one of the "individul number" combinations. Sounds interesting. If its a joke then its not funny and you might need to read a joke book or something to polish up on your skills.

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juxtyce said:
A Cifs.ko implementation for our Captivate. Don't worry, I keep mentioning it and no one seems to answer. . I'd do it myself but don't have a clue of where to start.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
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This sounds like DLNA or am I wrong? I just googled cifs.ko and thats what it looks like to me. If it is DLNA then the AllShare app does a decent job of it.

swedishcancerboi said:
I've always wanted to make an app for "ambient noise." I wanted my phone to "poll" the noise level before ringing and making adjustments appropriately. I like to have my phone on full volume for when I'm driving and got the radio up or out in the loud shop, but not so loud when I'm in a quiet enviroment such as a meeting, bank, store, etc.....
I see some problems with the idea such as delay on the ring and what not.....but I always thought it was a good idea....
And yes, I know how to put my phone I silent or hit the volume button to turn it down before hand.....jeez....I just like automation!
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thatoneguy99 said:
Its actually a good idea. Seems do able i mean you have a microphone and they already have apps out there that will put your phone in a certain volume mode depending on appointments in your calendar. Theres gotta be a way. There are sensors that work for brightness so why not this? I haven't made an app before so it will be a huge undertaking for me but ill look into it and see whats possible. I love a challenge.
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I agree this was a great idea. I even pulled out my phone to see if Tasker had a variable for mic input. Though it does poll proximity sensor and light sensor, it does not check the mic through preset variables. I am curious enough though, that I think I will head to their website and see what manual input might get that result.

thatoneguy99 said:
This is a joke or for real? If its for real then post one of the "individul number" combinations. Sounds interesting. If its a joke then its not funny and you might need to read a joke book or something to polish up on your skills.
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It is a sarcastic reference to our excessive expectations and lack of reverence in some of the more simplistic aspects of our miraculous devices. I sympathize with your original post and understand the need to constantly scour XDA for the latest release or mod. With that understanding I found humor in mocking "ourselves" with the most basic and intended function of our phones...TO BE A PHONE!
It is easy to misread humor. A forum does not allow for pitch change, facial expressions or sarcastic tone. It can be hard for some people to communicate efficiently and enjoyably when they are reading something outside of the intended interpretation. When you combine this with the varying levels of intellect, age and types of humor within this community you are bound to find those who cannot interpret or understand a bit of sarcasm. We are not all born with a "Bevis and Butthead" idea of humor, but I will do my best to include a fart joke for you in my next post . I hate to exclude anyone in my audience.
-"Everything in the world will be laughed at by one, but nothing will be laughed at by all." <--- I just made that up. I don't mind if you use it later. It's cool.
Before I go I want to prevent any confusion.
This post contained the following emotions in various degrees and locations:

Had a feeling!
I had a feeling it was a joke, and more often than not people will post ridiculous stuff about how the poster is an idiot because they did not search the forum and things of that matter.
Its hard not to get a little defensive when you feel like someone is making fun of you. Im glad that you put that part in there about sympathizing with me because I honestly look through tons of pages each day looking for the next best thing or project.
You are correct about how some of us tend to lose site of the fact that it also works as a phone so im glad that you pointed that out. After i found out it was a joke it did seem funny. I rarely use it to call people now days because I would rather text or send them an email. So yeah that is funny.
P.S. I am a pretty funny guy according to my mom <---haha and fart jokes are always appreciated.

thatoneguy99 said:
I had a feeling it was a joke, and more often than not people will post ridiculous stuff about how the poster is an idiot because they did not search the forum and things of that matter.
Its hard not to get a little defensive when you feel like someone is making fun of you. Im glad that you put that part in there about sympathizing with me because I honestly look through tons of pages each day looking for the next best thing or project.
You are correct about how some of us tend to lose site of the fact that it also works as a phone so im glad that you pointed that out. After i found out it was a joke it did seem funny. I rarely use it to call people now days because I would rather text or send them an email. So yeah that is funny.
P.S. I am a pretty funny guy according to my mom <---haha and fart jokes are always appreciated.
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I'm glad you got a smile out of it...finally!
On a more OP related note. I am beginning to feel like a sales rep for Tasker since I have mentioned it in 3 posts today BUT... it has allowed me to expand/experiment when not flashing. Here are some things I have done that may interest you or give ides for apps.
1. FaceDown - I have the phone automatically go to speaker phone and max volume when it is placed face down during a call. Got the idea from my buddy's Tilt2 (winmo).
2. QuietTime - Phone automatically switches to silent during weeknights from 10:30pm-5:30am and when I am in class based on my selected schedule.
3. CarDock - When headphone jack, usb power, and left side orientation are all enabled/plugged it triggers the following: BT ON (connects to car stereo), GPS ON, Volume Maxed, Car Home launched.
4. GoodHusband - Widget that automatically sends a "Thinking about you" or "I love you" message to the wife. It works nice and quietly without opening the messaging application. Unfortunately I have not figured out how to make it randomize through a list of messages. That would make it perfect.
5. PhoneFind - Specific text message sent to my phone will make it quietly reply with a current GPS location and battery level. (I'm a lucky owner with GPS)
I hope some of these are inspiring. I have enjoyed toying with them.

Shovelhead84 said:
I just fount the coolest feature. You touch the phone icon and push seven individual numbers. Then hit the green button that has a phone on it. If you wait a moment a "person" will start talking to you. It appears that AT&T has assign a different automated voices to each number combination. The voice recognition works very well because they seem to provide very logical responses. If you use the same number more than once the automated voice seems to become irritated and threatening. Some of the ones with "sexy voices" don't seem to work anymore. I think I used the number combination too many times. Maybe we should make a list of working codes?
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Are you talking about the key pad for entering the super master codes in? Thought it was some glitch from my last flash. Wow, glad to know I'm not the only one.
Hows the recognition software work for you when drinking alcoholic beverages? Will the 2.6 ota promised upgrade revert the root and make the speech synthesis less Irish-ish? Huh? FarmBoiGadget had the article but Ican't find it nor do I care to back my beliefs up.
So, debate it.......6 or a half dozen? You tell me.
From a phone on an app

If you want to seriously pursue it, good luck and let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Be sure to keep me informed on your progress
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Im actually messing with the Android SDK and Eclipse and all these other things I have no business messing with. Luckily there are tons of tutorials on line and hopefully I can learn something. Im starting from ground zero with this app making stuff. I dont know anything about coding or anything of the sort so it should be a fun process. Ill let you know if i get anywhere or if its even possible once I learn what the heck im doing. Could take a couple months and by then someone will probably make one. Ill keep messing around and let you know whats up or down.I have my music on shuffle, and im in a hotel room for work with nothing to do so...unfortunately today is my last day here.

Shovelhead84 said:
I'm glad you got a smile out of it...finally!
On a more OP related note. I am beginning to feel like a sales rep for Tasker since I have mentioned it in 3 posts today BUT... it has allowed me to expand/experiment when not flashing. Here are some things I have done that may interest you or give ides for apps.
1. FaceDown - I have the phone automatically go to speaker phone and max volume when it is placed face down during a call. Got the idea from my buddy's Tilt2 (winmo).
2. QuietTime - Phone automatically switches to silent during weeknights from 10:30pm-5:30am and when I am in class based on my selected schedule.
3. CarDock - When headphone jack, usb power, and left side orientation are all enabled/plugged it triggers the following: BT ON (connects to car stereo), GPS ON, Volume Maxed, Car Home launched.
4. GoodHusband - Widget that automatically sends a "Thinking about you" or "I love you" message to the wife. It works nice and quietly without opening the messaging application. Unfortunately I have not figured out how to make it randomize through a list of messages. That would make it perfect.
5. PhoneFind - Specific text message sent to my phone will make it quietly reply with a current GPS location and battery level. (I'm a lucky owner with GPS)
I hope some of these are inspiring. I have enjoyed toying with them.
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Great, Tasker is awesome. Do you mind posting your profile setups for all? I can use these as well. Thanks

Q would love some real dev answers about sending pics in portrait and landscape

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Still no replies? This question should be a pretty important one as it separates a fully functional phone like HTC vs all other android phones. Seems like an unfinished product.

stkiswr said:
Still no replies? This question should be a pretty important one as it separates a fully functional phone like HTC vs all other android phones. Seems like an unfinished product.
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You are right, our phones are not fully functional because pictures come across incorrectly! I can't believe I have to take the 3 seconds to open the picture and press rotate so that it is perfect for the rest of the time I have the phone. What a travesty!

No you would send it. The person would get it. Have to save attachment, then rotate. If you bought a new car that looked great but the AC quit would u just accept it. All this development here w rom's that half ass work I would think someone would actually touch on fixing problems that are associated w the phones since day one. You can make fun of me but I didn't start this post for trolls. I started it because xda has a lot of talented people and those are the people I would like to talk to or at least hope that one talented developer can figure this out. Its not right to pay $300 plus for a smartphone that a dumb phone can get right.

Just a thought that maybe facebook isn't exactly a "top priority" to the devs as it is to you.
I don't mean that as a snide comment, but just another way to look at it. These guys are busy with other things in ROMs like making them stable, faster, use less battery, all sorts of things. I don't think making mods to a facebook app would really be on their "to do" list...

I understand that too but to me, focusing on porting unfinished rom's or constantly dealing w release candidates just to say u are running a rom isn't what I paid for. To each his/her own but fully functional is better to me than seeing fc, or reboots. There are a bevy of great devs and rom's. I just don't see the point on focusing on making something try to make some astronomical linpack score when its still unfinished. There are pages of people complaining about the mms problem on Google. Maybe I'm just the only want that thinks a smart phone should handle it. Lol it handle everything else.

Not a priority (to me anyway)... In fact I remove all trace of FaceBook from my phone any time I flash a Rom.
If it bothers you so much, here's a couple links that will help you out.
smali - An assembler/disassembler for Android's dex format
Dalvik opcodes (Thanks to Decad3nce for this link.)
Now get to it!
=]

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[Q] I have an odd audio question.

I have received a mp3 file from someone who claims it is proof my wife and her fiance are hooking up at work. About 22 minutes in, you can hear my wife say you got everything, and can barely here what he says because of audio level and a bit of background. Ive tried everu app on the market to try and amplify, and clear up said section of the file. But with out a computer is not happening. I know this probably isnt the site to post this on, but its worth the shot. Is there any one who would be willing to give me a helping hand and try and get it so you can clearly hear what is said? Thanks in advance...

This is the file. The part I am interested in starts atv20 minutes, you can clearly hear a women say "got everything?" And a guy voice that sounds like hes casually asking for **** like it happens normally...

Well, you can CLEARLY hear what she says at 25:00...without any noise reduction or other audio enhancement required.

ssenemosewa said:
Well, you can CLEARLY hear what she says at 25:00...without any noise reduction or other audio enhancement required.
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At 24, you can hear the gate going down, amd the fiddling is here trying to locknthe gate which is always messed up, which is why she says that. The audio was stopped the second the exited the door she said. All im worried about is what she ssys no to sfter asking if he has everything at 20 minutes

The first file is a converted file that has a whining noise to it for some reason. This is the original sent to me.. sorry for the multiple posts

You and I must be listening to completely different audio samples.
At 24:58 (of the first file you supplied), she clearly says "**** me baby." Does the lock on the gate respond better to verbal solicitations for sex?
Using Audacity to filter out the background noise and such, I believe I can make out the gist of the discussion starting at 22:15, where she asks, "Have any?" But you aren't going to like it.

By chance could you save and post the file were you can mske it out. She asked him if he had everything, he says something and then she says na. Can you post for me? And at the end if you can clesr it up, I hear "youve got to be ****ing kidding me"
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You and I must be listening to completely different audio samples.
At 24:58 (of the first file you supplied), she clearly says "**** me baby." Does the lock on the gate respond better to verbal solicitations for sex?
Using Audacity to filter out the background noise and such, I believe I can make out the gist of the discussion starting at 22:15, where she asks, "Got any?" But you aren't going to like it.
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22:10 to 22:30 is what im concerned about, what the guys says after shes askes if he has everything

Here you go. But I'm sure she's asking "Have any?"

See, there is still this issue. I know what she said. I want to clarify what the guy says. Its to low to hear after she says "do you have everything". This isnt going to be possible is it? His voice in the audio needs to be raised to be heard.
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Here you go. But I'm sure she's asking "Have any?"
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Sorry that I couldn't give you what you're looking for. Perhaps someone else can enhance it further.
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[HELP] Weird sound outside my friend's home...

It's probably nothing, but my friend has been hearing a strange sound outside his home. It sounds like a data burst mixed with morse code or something. I'm not sure where else to ask other than on xdadevelopers so yeah. He recorded an audio clip of it. Does anybody know what it is? The original is named "Strange-Sound.mp3". But because it is pretty quiet, I made another version of it thats louder named "Strange-Sound-Louder.mp3". Thanks!
(I have not made 10 posts yet but i swear I'm not spamming...)
dropbox {dot} com/sh/xfac6cbt04wcyve/AAAlZ4LOFHrl50zKP520SQINa?dl=0

Some might be fooling around with your friend nothing else.

enthusiasticGeek said:
It's probably nothing, but my friend has been hearing a strange sound outside his home. It sounds like a data burst mixed with morse code or something. I'm not sure where else to ask other than on xdadevelopers so yeah. He recorded an audio clip of it. Does anybody know what it is? The original is named "Strange-Sound.mp3". But because it is pretty quiet, I made another version of it thats louder named "Strange-Sound-Louder.mp3". Thanks!
(I have not made 10 posts yet but i swear I'm not spamming...)
dropbox {dot} com/sh/xfac6cbt04wcyve/AAAlZ4LOFHrl50zKP520SQINa?dl=0
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I fail to understand how this question has anything to do with Windows mobile and android devices or custom Windows and android software development.
This forum is for questions related to these subjects, it is not for questions like you posted.
Go to Reddit or some other generic forum to ask your question.
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