Toggle Nav Bar - General Questions and Answers

Is there's anyways I can toggle my navigation bar via a shortcut without going immersive mode because it conflicts with my LMT pie control. I think there should be a way I can long press any key or a custom tile which toggles an option that enables/disables my navigation bar just like I do with my data service. I've been searching for months for that option but I haven't been successful. Not everyone knows how to use navigate my cellphone with gestures like I do, so to make my life and their life easier I want to toggle a shortcut to activate/disactivate that, without having to go to my rom settings or GB settings because it takes some times and sometimes I have to reboot which is quite annoying.

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ParanaoidAndroid: hide Notification bar in Tablet Mode?

Searched but couldn't find anything to that regard.
I am running paranoidAndroid 2.54 and I love the ROM. I use NOVA as my launcher and have/had set the gesture swipe up/down to show/hide notification bar. This works perfectly if the ROM is not in Tablet mode i.e, the notification bar is up top and not at the bottom. With tablet mode turned on, I couldn't find a way to hide the notification bar at all.
Does anyone know of a way that can be done? I just need a way to toggle the visibility of the notification bar when PA is running in tablet Mode and the bar is at the bottom.
Thanks
Found it and feel stupid about it now. The Expanded Desktop in CM10 does the trick.

Notification toggles dont work

On some roms, notifications toggles dont work...is there any work around for this?
For example: The GPS toggle is always on preventing me to switch it off even from the settings menu

Does anyone want PIE+Expanded Desktop/Immersive Mode?

One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
Dodgexander said:
One thing I've found tremendously rare when it comes to ROM development is the use of PIE when only in Expanded Desktop/Immersive mode.
Most ROM's here offering PIE and Expanded desktop allow you enable both at the same time, but don't allow you to toggle PIE on only when in Immersive Mode.
The only rom so far i've found is PA.
So why is it that all these roms are bundling PIE, like SlimPie, but are making it so even in expanded desktop, the navbar buttons are still visible and pie doesn't take over?
To me this feels like common sense, or is the case that most people don't like pie, or don't bother expanding their desktop?
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I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
littleguevara said:
All the ROMs that include pie allow you to expand the desktop and remove the nav keys. Slim does for sure. SlimPIE is how PIE used to be when it was first developed by the PA team (pre-4.4).
PA first developed PIE, years ago. Since then Android has come such a long way that the use of PIE and its implementation has also evolved into something useful, when its needed. For instance, android never had "immersive mode" before 4.4, so initially PIE was thereto allow more use of your screen's real estate.
Some people liked how it was (see PA 3.99, which is not on the Nexus 5 because it's based on Jellybean), and for those SlimPIE and all the other ROMs that include it are there to use, but it's an old way of thinking and the PA team is about innovation.
Of course you can read about all this somewhere, I don't have a link though, I just remember cause I been around a while.
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Thanks for explaining this, it makes sense. I wish roms had the latest version of PIE instead, if not, I wish they added an option to simply disable nav bar instead of pie when you set both to appear bottom of screen. Unlike current behaviour which is to disable pie at bottom when navbar is also at bottom.
bitdomo said:
I am using AOSP rom with gravity box. What I do is enable PIE, then the immers mode only hide statusbar. Then I set every diemnsion of the navbar to 0 px (width, height), because if I disable navbar the three dot menu button disappears from the apps. I set immersmode to only hide statusbar because in full immers if I swipe up from the bottom to activates PIE then the statusbar becomes visible which I do not want.
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If I understand right, doesn't this mean that you have to use pie regardless of immersive mode or not? I am looking to have it toggle on when immersive is on and off when immersive is off.
AndrasLOHF said:
I totally agree. I have no idea why ROMs that have Pie do not automatically switch to Pie when going into Immersive Mode. Everything is supposed to be about ease of use and swiping up to unhide the navbar and then touch the screen again to press a button is silly IMO. Also if you happen to be on a scrollable list or in an app with an up swipe gesture many times it'll trigger that too.
Anyways this can be accomplished on SlimKat using Chamber of Secrets. Someone had created a profile to be imported into Tasker on the thread.
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A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
I am just glad PA has what I want and even better now with Peek and Hover being added too. But I do miss simple things from other roms, such as certain toggles, dpi changes etc. Although ive managed to find apps/widgets to replace those functionalities. I simply opened the thread because I thought it was rather strange.
Dodgexander said:
A profile for tasker that automates toggling nav bar off and pie on, only when in immersive mode and then nav bar on again and pei off when out of immersive mode?
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Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
AndrasLOHF said:
Yes. It reads a system intent and then changes to Pie based on the system ui change. I don't have mine set up like that personally. I only use Expanded mode on certain apps or when the phone is in landscape mode on certain apps, etc. and have profiles set to kill the nav bar and enable expanded desktop mode. I just always leave bottom pie enabled and once the navbar is removed pie comes into play. Works perfectly.
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That is true, because of the way PIE is disabled when Nav Bar exists, it means you shouldn't have to have an option to disable PIE also when you leave Immersive.
I just wish every rom had an option to enable PIE action to copy PA
Exactly, you'll find while other ROMs have a ton of features, PAs is the most elegant implementation. It may take a little longer cause they're rewriting everything from scratch but it'll be well worth it..as is evidenced by this latest release.

Is there a way to fully disable the Navigation Bar???

Greetings!!!
I'm trying to fully disable the NavBar without success...
If I try to mod build.prop adding the following line at the end of the file:
qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
My system just crashes.
That's the tweak that i've been using to disable the NavBar on every phone I had before.
I read somewhere that I can just set my phone to be always on immersive mode via a terminal command, and that's way I did to "hide" the NavBar, but every time I swipe up "by mistake", the bar appears (or every time I try to use the keyboard).
I don't need the NavBar because I use LMT, it just takes space on my screen.
Can anyone please help me sort this out???
Best regards!!!
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel/themes/mod-navbar-tuner-additional-qa-tile-rows-t3522314
This is a method, setting DPI of nav bar to zero. Also there is immersive mode. Also if rooted there are apps that can hide the status and nav bars. I used an app called Tile root for Nougat. It worked great. Now I use a custom ROM which has it built in.

Navbar and gestures - automation with spen

Hello,
Have you been trying to automate changing the navigation metod while using spen?
I use navigation gestures but I want to have nav bar when using spen.
This have changed since android 10 and old tasker task doesnt works for me now.
I see in tasker that when im changing navigation metod in settings these settings are beeing changed :
navigation_bar_gesture_while_hidden
navigation_mode
But even after setting up this correctly i still cant see navbar when detaching spen. The funny thing is that in settings it looks like im using nav bar navigation.
Has anyone been successful with this? Switching between navigation buttons and gestures would be super helpful when using S Pen.
I can trigger tasks on detaching/inserting spen but cannot show/hide navbar. Modifying the two aforementioned settings does not seem to have any effect.
Maybe try searching/posting in a Tasker forum, if it's Android 10 related I'm sure it's come up there.

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