TWRP before root - Moto G 2015 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

HI,
I have the MOTO G TURBO EDITION, XT1557 in India.
If i unlock the bootloader, can i use fastboot to boot a TWRP recovery and take a backup
of the entire rom ??? This should be before i flash SUPERSU.
That way will i get an UNROOTED STOCK ROM ??
Is this possible or do you have to flash supersu and then only take a backup ??
Any thoughts please??
thanks
Greg

Flash twrp take backup and flash SuperSU you will get stock rom backup

gregferns said:
HI,
I have the MOTO G TURBO EDITION, XT1557 in India.
If i unlock the bootloader, can i use fastboot to boot a TWRP recovery and take a backup
of the entire rom ??? This should be before i flash SUPERSU.
That way will i get an UNROOTED STOCK ROM ??
Is this possible or do you have to flash supersu and then only take a backup ??
Any thoughts please??
thanks
Greg
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That is what I did, unlocked bootloader, booted TWRP, made a TWRP backup, then flashed SuperSU. I never flashed TWRP, but that can always be done later.

HelpMeruth said:
Flash twrp take backup and flash SuperSU you will get stock rom backup
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MrTooPhone said:
That is what I did, unlocked bootloader, booted TWRP, made a TWRP backup, then flashed SuperSU. I never flashed TWRP, but that can always be done later.
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So in effect the STOCK ROM BACKUP that i will have will be NON ROOTED right ??

gregferns said:
So in effect the STOCK ROM BACKUP that i will have will be NON ROOTED right ??
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Correct. And it is advisable. My first root attempt I tried 2.67. I ended up stuck on Unlocked bootloader message. I simply reflashed my backup, then tried 2.62-3. Been rooted ever since.
One other recommendation, save your backup to the SD card vice internal storage, otherwise you will have the permission challenges.

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[Q] Can I obtain Root on the stock ROM and keep over the air updates?

if so can anyone point out a tutorial?
Hello,
If your stock with only a custom recovery, you will need to download the OTA zip file and flash it via custom recovery.
However, if you have a custom kernel/mods installed then you will need flash the stock images and then flash the OTA zip via recovery.
Yes
You'll get the official OTA updates as long as you have the stock ROM(even if it is rooted) and Recovery.
But you may lose the root after the update.
Have a read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2523217
Can I achieve root without re-flashing the device? if not how can I backup my devices current configuration including apps etc?
Gilligan94 said:
Can I achieve root without re-flashing the device? if not how can I backup my devices current configuration including apps etc?
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You need to flash the SuperSU zip via recovery to have root access. Flashing supersu doesn't wipe your device's configuration or files. Unlocking the bootloader wipes it!
Use Helium to backup your apps when you're unrooted. Once you have root access, I would recommend using Titanium Backup!
vin4yak said:
You need to flash the SuperSU zip via recovery to have root access. Flashing supersu doesn't wipe your device's configuration or files. Unlocking the bootloader wipes it!
Use Helium to backup your apps when you're unrooted. Once you have root access, I would recommend using Titanium Backup!
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When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?
Gilligan94 said:
When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?
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the bootloader has to be unlocked to flash/boot to twrp/cwm, which is required for root.
please read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2508292
Gilligan94 said:
When would I need to unlock the bootloader? only if I changed to a custome ROM right?
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I think you should head over to general section and read the Stickies first before tinkering with your device!
This is the flow...:
1. Unlock the bootloader (Wipes everything off the phone)
2. Flash custom recovery
3. Flash SuperSU.
Hoorah! You're rooted!
Rooting
And if your not sure how to root your phone i would really read up on it first or you may brick it,untill your sure you can do it.......If it aint bust dont fix it

New Update For R7Plusf 21/03/2016.

i have a rooted r7plusf , and this update R7plusfEX_11_160227 just reached me , is there a risk of unrooting or bootloop if i update ?
rch.aj34 said:
i have a rooted r7plusf , and this update R7plusfEX_11_160227 just reached me , is there a risk of unrooting or bootloop if i update ?
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If you have a custom recovery (TWRP) and root, you may incur in some problems as bootloop, so I suggest you to take a backup of your file and unroot and install the stock recovery (if you want update)
shadow25 said:
If you have a custom recovery (TWRP) and root, you may incur in some problems as bootloop, so I suggest you to take a backup of your file and unroot and install the stock recovery (if you want update)
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I have the stock recovery , i used fastboot boot TWRP to root and that's about it. still a risk ?
rch.aj34 said:
I have the stock recovery , i used fastboot boot TWRP to root and that's about it. still a risk ?
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You can try but I suggest you to take a backup
shadow25 said:
You can try but I suggest you to take a backup
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Update : Unrooted , tried to update and failed. so rooted back.
rch.aj34 said:
Update : Unrooted , tried to update and failed. so rooted back.
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Then you need a full Wipe, update and root again

Rooting by fastboot boot recovery.img

I have a Moto G 3rd Gen. XT1550 on 6.0.1 and I want to root my phone. After reading a lot about rooting on the internet, I was thinking if it was possible to root by temporary loading the recovery by the fastboot command "fastboot boot recovery.img" so that I wouldn't lose the stock recovery. Someone please tell if this can be done. If not how can I revert back to the stock recovery after flashing TWRP?
Thank You!
Tron_Legacy1680 said:
I have a Moto G 3rd Gen. XT1550 on 6.0.1 and I want to root my phone. After reading a lot about rooting on the internet, I was thinking if it was possible to root by temporary loading the recovery by the fastboot command "fastboot boot recovery.img" so that I wouldn't lose the stock recovery. Someone please tell if this can be done. If not how can I revert back to the stock recovery after flashing TWRP?
Thank You!
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That is how I rooted my phone. I still have stock recovery installed. I recommend you make a TWRP back up before flashing SuperSU.
purplepizza said:
That is how I rooted my phone. I still have stock recovery installed. I recommend you make a TWRP back up before flashing SuperSU.
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Thank you for replying but I think I'm going to flash TWRP as I have found stock recovery image. It was good to know that it was possible.
Thanks!
Tron_Legacy1680 said:
Thank you for replying but I think I'm going to flash TWRP as I have found stock recovery image. It was good to know that it was possible.
Thanks!
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Probably a good choice. I kept stock recovery thinking there would be OTA updates even though I was not sure if updates could be applied after unrooting. Looking back and considering no updates have come yet (its been 8 months), I should have flashed TWRP.

Question: If I update to the newest firmware, will I lose root?

Just got a alert to update firmware. Will I lose Root if I Update?
Thanks...
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
jefffisher said:
you can't install it if you are rooted, you have to unroot and install stock recovery no twrp for it to work.
it might also lock your bootloader meaning factory reset again to unlock.
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Not necessarily. I have an FRD-L04, I was running unlocked bootloader with TWRP and Magisk, rooted on B385. Flashed just the stock b360 recovery through fastboot, and then downloaded the full update package in the updater.
When it booted back up after the update, my bootloader had been locked. I uninstalled Magisk once I got back into Android. All seems to be working so far (except for my finicky SD card reader).
Install stock recovery and proceed with update.
You wont lose root
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
zimmen said:
I lost root and got a locked bootloader since the new update (B394)
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It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
shashank1320 said:
It was GB update or MBs?
Can root again
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It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
zimmen said:
It was the GB
I downloaded the full package, only way to update for me.
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Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
shashank1320 said:
Oops then it will restore the recovery, lock the bootloader, remove root
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Yes, but that was the only way to get the update to install.
Not that I loos so much when I unlock it again, it's only apps they i have to install again.
Has anybody tried to flash magisk in the new B394? I get an "Process error" when trying to install/download modules
Update: just be sure to create a folder in internal storage named MagiskManager

How to get back to A10 after custom rom

Hi all so I am planning to install a Havoc OS on my phone with TWRP and Magisk
So my question is in the event that the install doesnt work out for me or that I dont like the rom (no rearson why I shouldnt) how do I get back to the original A10 rom?
I have downloaded the OxygenOS 10.0.6 [EU] OnePlus 7 Pro 5G.zip file from here already. Would I be able to go ahead boot into TWRP and flash this ifneeded?
TIA Bart
bartjunited said:
Hi all so I am planning to install a Havoc OS on my phone with TWRP and Magisk
So my question is in the event that the install doesnt work out for me or that I dont like the rom (no rearson why I shouldnt) how do I get back to the original A10 rom?
I have downloaded the OxygenOS 10.0.6 [EU] OnePlus 7 Pro 5G.zip file from here already. Would I be able to go ahead boot into TWRP and flash this ifneeded?
TIA Bart
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Hi Bart,
Make sure you keep TWRP recovery after flashing custom Rom.
Then if you want to go back, flash official Rom zip on both slots after formatting data otherwise it won't boot.
Thanks for that.
Only thing I'm not sure is what you mean by flashing to both slots?
If for example you get a boot loop can you still get into TWRP?
I assume this is a yes as this is before it boots into the phones OS?
bartjunited said:
Thanks for that.
Only thing I'm not sure is what you mean by flashing to both slots?
If for example you get a boot loop can you still get into TWRP?
I assume this is a yes as this is before it boots into the phones OS?
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When returning to stock,
format data
Flash stock zip
Flash TWRP
Reboot into recovery which is TWRP
Follow the same steps again and reboot...
If you end up in boot loop, don't stress. You can always flash TWRP recovery again via fastboot.

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