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[Q] What camera app are you using on your idol3?

Google Camera? Camera Zoom FX? The default? What's working for you?

Same question here, stock camera is okay, but is there another app that will save to SD card beside stock
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Medina623 said:
Same question here, stock camera is okay, but is there another app that will save to SD card beside stock
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I use the stock app for videos, OpenCamera for stills, Freedcam for landscapes using RAW mode , and Google Camera - if I want panorama or photo-sphere.
'A Better Camera' - will save to SD card. It is pretty nice - but I uninstalled it after I realized that the free version had a limitation of number of HDRs pictures it allows.

famewolf said:
Google Camera? Camera Zoom FX? The default? What's working for you?
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Using stock, OpenCamera, A BetterCamera. I like OpenCamera except it doesn't yet support writing to external SD.
My main complaint with the stock camera is that it seems to only support two resolution settings (and I am guessing they are the really the same resolution, just one is cropped to make 16:9 aspect ratio). Am I missing something? Is there a way to take lower-resolution photos (e.g. for web posting or faster email upload) using the stock camera app?

I use Camera FV-5.

Byzandroid said:
I use Camera FV-5.
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Does it allow saving to the external sd on lollipop? As far as I know only the stock camera allows that.

Camera FV-5 I found does not work for some reason on the Idol. I start the camera and get a black screen. I do get the settings but nothing else but a black screen. I going to contact app developer soon about it.

The best camera so far (for any device) it's procapture because: it can silent all the sounds (except those in whats app), it can put the grip on and it can capture just by touch. Besides theese, there are many-many other settings as wb, iso, hdr, light mode etc

Byzandroid said:
Camera FV-5 I found does not work for some reason on the Idol. I start the camera and get a black screen. I do get the settings but nothing else but a black screen. I going to contact app developer soon about it.
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Your phone has to support Google's Camera2 API in order for the app to even function. Right now only a few devices even support the official Google Camera2 API. The ones I know of are: Nexus 6, Samsung Galaxy Note 4, Samsung Galaxy S6, LG G4. Since the camera hardware is the same as my Nexus 6, I'd expect this app to just work, but Alcatel's software side probably isn't even written with Camera2 API in mind.

Stock camera app. vs camera fv-5

i really love shooting RAW for edit but jpeg is also important
after 5.1.1 update which enables raw capture i get camera fv-5 app but i'm really upset of its jpeg bad quality in-spite of its large size compared to the stock camera app.
any one had noticed this??? the photos are not sharp at all and feels like it's taken by 5 MP camera

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hardyboy_samy said:
i really love shooting RAW for edit but jpeg is also important
after 5.1.1 update which enables raw capture i get camera fv-5 app but i'm really upset of its jpeg bad quality in-spite of its large size compared to the stock camera app.
any one had noticed this??? the photos are not sharp at all and feels like it's taken by 5 MP camera
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u should report it to App Developers
for JPEG format test this app
Floating CameraW+
>> This is not raw capturing But it just capture the exact view of lens without any extra effect
so on healthy hardware it should take vibrant color and clear view compare to stock app
the full CameraW+ is paid on Google Play Store But If it can help to solve ur problem msg me to send its APK file
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hardyboy_samy said:
i really love shooting RAW for edit but jpeg is also important
after 5.1.1 update which enables raw capture i get camera fv-5 app but i'm really upset of its jpeg bad quality in-spite of its large size compared to the stock camera app.
any one had noticed this??? the photos are not sharp at all and feels like it's taken by 5 MP camera
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i think you're on to something I noticed it as well. let me know what you find. I'll reach out to developers of Camera FV-5 as well.

Is there a RAW capture mode?

GSMArena's review just came out and they state that there is no option to capture raw files with this device.
That's sound very odd. Can anyone confirm this?
Thanks.

It's not true there is a option for pro mode which captures in raw

Their article said two things :
There's a Pro mode for those who want more control over the camera. It comes with adjustment sliders for white balance, exposure compensation, ISO, shutter speed, and focus. RAW capture is available as well, although HTC claims the majority of consumers don't use this feature.
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So, in camera PRO mode, RAW mode is here
Then,
We can almost overlook the absence of RAW, but it is signifficantly harder to swallow the fac that HTC's camera app does not offer the ability to change the frame rates that video is recorded in
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So this part is only about taking a video in RAW mode. This mode principally exists fir DSLR cameras, and if I don't mae mistake, never have been introduced on smartphones
The only regret I have with the camera PRO mode is that the U11 only takes RAW+JPG photo. You can't take RAW pictures only so .... we have to take care at the storage

Fre$h said:
Their article said two things :
So, in camera PRO mode, RAW mode is here
Then, So this part is only about taking a video in RAW mode. This mode principally exists fir DSLR cameras, and if I don't mae mistake, never have been introduced on smartphones
The only regret I have with the camera PRO mode is that the U11 only takes RAW+JPG photo. You can't take RAW pictures only so .... we have to take care at the storage
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Thanks for the clarification! Glad that raw capture is available on this phone.

Getting the Pixel's Auto HDR+ camera app on the Xperia XZ

The Google Pixel's Auto HDR+ camera app was recently ported to SD820 and SD821 devices, but when I try to install it on my Xperia XZ on stock firmware, Android 7.1.1, version .35, the app crashes on launch. Can anybody provide me with a link to a working APK, or is our phone just not capable of using it?

Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work

chrispearson said:
Sony doesn't use raw imaging so it won't work
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Thanks, I didn't know that. Is there anyway to reduce the noise and artefacts in the photos, then? (without rooting the device or installing a custom ROM)

Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.

propov said:
Yes there is way. Must use manual settings or preloadet Scenes. Super Auto Mode is far from the best pics in diferent conditions.
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Thanks! I'll read some more about the manual mode. Does that mean I have to adjust the manual settings, or can I leave everything in auto?

To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.

propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks for all your information! I just got this phone and I'm learning so much about it already thanks to XDA.

propov said:
To adjust manual is so tricky and need more knowledge. But preloaded scenes SCN in manual mode was ok for diferent situations. For Example - Sport is for fast moving with very fast focusing. Or Twilight from hand or Anti shaking is good for low light but need to turn on flash.
Im not sure for the scene names because my phone is on other language.
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Thanks again! I have another question relating to the camera. It goes as follows:
The Xperia XZ1 (with 8.0 Oreo) has a much better camera than the XZ Premium (with Android 7.1 Nougat), even though they have the exact same camera hardware, the XZP has much more oversharpening (and other issues that the regular XZ has), but the XZ1 seems to have much better software processing. My question is, therefore, that: Does that mean the XZ's camera will get much better as well, once the Android 8.0 update arrives?
Here is my source: https://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-xz1-camera

Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.

propov said:
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Thanks again!!

propov said:
Camera soft is from Sony not from Google. I think that Sony probably will not make xz cam on the level xz1 for marketing reasons. Maybe a little update something between. But developers for sure will make a port on xz1 camera for xz.
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Another question: Should I leave Smart Cleaner (the Sony tool in the "Storage & Memory" section of the settings app) on? Some people say it reduces performance, but Sony claims it optimises it. What do you think and what would you do?

I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.

JR5968 said:
I have the Google camera APK downloaded and it works but can't see a difference from the stock camera, may be it's just a app but the processing of done by Sony. They don't have raw. So maybe that's why Google camera with HDR + can't do anything to make it better.
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Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/

As I remember it was Google Pixel camera with HDR +
Something like version 5.0 ( not sure if it was renamed)
Btw I'm on Oreo

StanleyNL said:
Well there is a small misunderstanding here. I am referring to the special port of the Google Pixel's camera for SD820+ devices. You can download it here, but it won't work: (on Android Nougat, that is) https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-updated-zero-shutter-lag-xiaomi/
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https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?

JR5968 said:
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...amera-5-1-018-177470874-android-apk-download/
is this different form the pixel camera?
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Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.

StanleyNL said:
Yes, but we won't be able to use the Google pixel camera until we get RAW support.
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Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad

JR5968 said:
Ohh I see, I thought this was the pixel camera. My bad
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The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?

StanleyNL said:
The interface is the same, but "Google Camera" doesn't have the HDR+ processing that the Google Pixel's camera app has. HDR+ greatly reduces noise, especially in low light, while also improving image quality in backlit scenes. The Google Pixel's camera (with HDR+) has been ported to other Android devices with the Snapdragon 820 or up, but you can only use it if your phone fully supports the Camera 2 API. Sadly, our phone lacks the ability to take RAW photos, and therefore it cannot use the ported Pixel camera app.
I hope this clears things up a bit.
By the way: You said you're using Android Oreo, so maybe you do have the capability of shooting RAW photos now. I'm not on Oreo yet, because Sony still hasn't published the update in the Benelux (Belgium, Netherlands, Luxembourg). Could you install this app and see if the XZ does have full Camera 2 API support now with Oreo?
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Device: Sony, F8331 (F8331), Android 8.0.0 41.3.A.2.24
Rear camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: YES, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: FULL, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, MANUAL_SENSOR, MANUAL_POST_PROCESSING, , Focus distance: 8.333333, ISO range: 50-3200, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 3840x2160, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
Front camera:
Manual Focus: YES, Manual WB: NO, Manual ISO: YES, Manual Speed: YES, RAW: NO, Hardware level: LIMITED, Capabilities: BACKWARD_COMPATIBLE, , Focus distance: 10.000000, ISO range: 50-800, Speed range: 100000-100000000, JPEG sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1280x720,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,] 4160x3120, RAW sizes: null, Preview sizes: [4160x3120,4192x2358,3840x2160,3264x2448,2048x1536,1920x1080,1600x1200,1440x1080,1280x720,960x720,864x480,720x480,640x480,480x320,352x288,320x240,176x144,]
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Exactly the same as on Nougat—no RAW support. That's too bad. Thanks for trying!

Question Does this camera do raw dng photo at all? And what sensor?

Anyone know if raw dng photo capture is capable on this phone? And anyone know what sensor is used? The stock app does not seem to offer raw. It would be unfortunate if raw is not supported. Presumably the sensor is decent but Samsung stock software is usual not very good. 3rd party camera software rules, if raw is capable.

I tried using the pro shot app in the play store. No luck. There is a Samsung system app that crashes when trying to take a raw picture. Kind of annoying, I really would like to be able to take raw pictures because I use Lightroom to clean things up. Cleaning up a jpeg in the edit app on the camera/gallery pretty much destroys the quality by double compressing.
This is really frustrating because I'm sure the camera sensor is capable of taking raw images it's almost like Samsung is trying to prevent it at the OS level just to prevent people from having a good camera feature in a mid-range phone.

No RAW. You can download the Camera 2 API Prober to see all the feature it supports. It supports Camera 2 Limited (Full or Level 3 are better).
Yes, Samsung limited it at the system level, the processing is done by the kernel and the software only receives the result in JPG or HEIF. That's why you can't really use other camera apps to improve the results either.

poog said:
And anyone know what sensor is used?
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The main camera (f/1.8, 0.8µm and around 1/1.7X" sensor size with PDAF and OIS) can either use a Samsung s5kgw1p sensor, commonly known as the GW1 or a Sony IMX682.

No camera2api LVL3/FULL support. Disappointing. Is there any way to port it?

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I tried using the pro shot app in the play store. No luck. There is a Samsung system app that crashes when trying to take a raw picture. Kind of annoying, I really would like to be able to take raw pictures because I use Lightroom to clean things up. Cleaning up a jpeg in the edit app on the camera/gallery pretty much destroys the quality by double compressing.
This is really frustrating because I'm sure the camera sensor is capable of taking raw images it's almost like Samsung is trying to prevent it at the OS level just to prevent people from having a good camera feature in a mid-range phone.
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Do you able to capture raw/dng using Lightroom camera app?