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Mi4 in europe

I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.

toxic_garden said:
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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Where did you order your mi4 ? what website ?

directly from Xiaomi. http://www.xiaomishop.com/180-xiaomi-mi4-16gb-wcdma-smartphone-black.html

Xiaomishop is not Xiaomi, just reseller.

interesting. Didn't know that. But it seems like a trustworthy reseller anyways, as i read tons of positive remarks about them. But let's just see when (and how) my device arrives.

toxic_garden said:
I just ordered my black Mi4 today and will hopefully switch from my z1c in a few days. Are there other users within europe to share knowledge with? Since 3g and 4g networks differ from the network bands used in the USA, it might be a good idea to get connected.
Of course, i'm still interested in sharing knowhow with everyone else of you too when it comes to non-network-related issues.
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I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.

NeySlim said:
I have a white 3G one, since september and it works very well with european networks. Tested it in France and UK.
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great! As France and Germany use the same frequency bands, everything should be fine then. I read a few complains about bad/no reception, but it seems like this wouldn't be a general problem after all.

No problem of reception at all. I get even better signal than my old S4 Mini, and better sound quality too.

whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?

Rene_ajax said:
whats best place to buy the mi4? just a reference is ok no need for full url..
i want to bu black version but it seems kinda like sold out?
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it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.

FDD LTE Band 20
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?

FDD-LTE model is not available yet, you have to wait.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4/general/unlocking-basebands-mi4-t2879685
Nobody has reported success in unlocking bands on different model, likely hardware issue/impossible.

DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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I do not think that this will happen with the MI4, just more in a new model like "MI5". In Germany you can use this Band 20 with t-mobile in some areas.You can not fix this problem with an simple software update, its more linked to the hardware conditions. But you can put me right

so i got my Mi4 yesterday. 2G/3G seem to work perfectly fine.
The only thing i'm still not quite sure about is localization. I currently use .12.12 dev-Edition. Seems like giving root-Access right out of MIUI is not available in stable editions. But sadly, the localized versions (in my case: german ) seem to lack behind. Not a big deal as i'm perfectly fine using english terms in my OS, but i wonder if there is any way to tell 3rd party apps (facebook etc.) that they should use foreign languages. Any ideas?
[edit] woohoo! This one did the trick: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.evanhe.locale
All 3rd party apps, that have any localization built in, now show up in german language

toxic_garden said:
it's available @ xiaomishop right now. Product ID M180
my order just went to status "shipped" today. Can't wait to get my hands on that cutie.
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fantastic

DeMichaelis said:
The international version of the Mi4 is available today.
But there is no official support for FDD LTE 800 MHz (Band 20)
Maybe it comes out next year or we can get with a firmware update ?
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Now FDD LTE is ready

LTE Band 20
lenteenes said:
Now FDD LTE is ready
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any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?

Only 1800 And 2100
Envoyé de mon MI 4LTE en utilisant Tapatalk

DeMichaelis said:
any information about support of LTE Band 20 ?
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Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz

lenteenes said:
Xiao mi 4G:FDD-LTE 1800(B3)/2100(B1)MHz
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Being that Europe has the similar bands as the U.S. will it work in the States?

Display difference between MHA-AL00 and MHA-AL29 (US Version vs Chinese Version)?

Anyone happens to have both the AL00 and AL29 for comparison? I am curious whether the display uses for the US version of mate 9 is different compares to the Chinses version.

The display panels are the same, no difference.
Sent from my MHA-L29 using XDA Labs

MHA-AL29 has more LTE support, such as B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1). I'd make sure you got the one with LTE band support for your carrier.

gusto5 said:
MHA-AL29 has more LTE support, such as B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1). I'd make sure you got the one with LTE band support for your carrier.
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The Chinese model and the international models both support the same LTE bands.

duraaraa said:
The Chinese model and the international models both support the same LTE bands.
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AL00 Variant Info
L29 Variant Info
You'll notice that the:
AL00 model supports the following LTE bands: B1, B3, B7, B38, B39, B40, B41
L29 model supports the following LTE bands: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B9, B12, B17, B18, B19, B20, B26, B28, B29, B38, B39, B40, B41
Here is an XDA Article linking to pdadb echoing the same information about the AL00.
Depending on your US Carrier you may get LTE with the AL00 model. For instance, AT&T runs LTE on B7 which the AL00 model supports. However, I see no matching bands for T-Mobile's LTE bands with the AL00.
YMMV, but the phones are different

gusto5 said:
AL00 Variant Info
L29 Variant Info
You'll notice that the:
AL00 model supports the following LTE bands: B1, B3, B7, B38, B39, B40, B41
L29 model supports the following LTE bands: B1, B2, B3, B4, B5, B7, B8, B9, B12, B17, B18, B19, B20, B26, B28, B29, B38, B39, B40, B41
Here is an XDA Article linking to pdadb echoing the same information about the AL00.
Depending on your US Carrier you may get LTE with the AL00 model. For instance, AT&T runs LTE on B7 which the AL00 model supports. However, I see no matching bands for T-Mobile's LTE bands with the AL00.
YMMV, but the phones are different
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No, they're not different. Those specs are wrong.
Here are the official specs from Huawei China's site.
http://consumer.huawei.com/cn/mobile-phones/mate9/conf.htm
I own a Chinese model, and when I went to the US I used it on Band 4/T-Mobile. Here in Japan, I use it on Band 19 and 28, no problems.

duraaraa said:
No, they're not different. Those specs are wrong.
Here are the official specs from Huawei China's site.
http://consumer.huawei.com/cn/mobile-phones/mate9/conf.htm
I own a Chinese model, and when I went to the US I used it on Band 4/T-Mobile. Here in Japan, I use it on Band 19 and 28, no problems.
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I stand corrected. Thank you for the appropriate product information!
Just to help the OP, is this bit about getting Google Play Store still relevant for the AL00 version?

gusto5 said:
I stand corrected. Thank you for the appropriate product information!
Just to help the OP, is this bit about getting Google Play Store still relevant for the AL00 version?
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Google works on the Chinese version if you install the add-on, yes, but the ideal thing to do is rebrand it to an international variant, so that things like google location, google by long-pressing home key, etc work.
I wanted the 128GB version, so I bought a Chinese version, and rebranded to European version.

gusto5 said:
I stand corrected. Thank you for the appropriate product information!
Just to help the OP, is this bit about getting Google Play Store still relevant for the AL00 version?
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Thank you for helping! About the thread that you are referring, yes it is still relevant for the AL00. I used the same method to install Google Services when i was in B137 version, then i upgraded to B153 and all Google Services still work fine. Now i am using B165SP01 and still no issue.

@duraaraa Would you mind please helping me.... I have the Chinese variant mate 9 with l29 firmware in the US. But I haven't had the success you've had. My mate 9 doesn't seem to be supporting the same bands as the l29 variant (b2, b4, b5 or b17) as I'm unable to get any 4g/LTE on at&t. All I've been able to connect to is hspa. I don't know what to do. Not having good speeds is horrible and has been really taking away from an otherwise good experience with this phone. Thanks in advance.

mrmajor247 said:
@duraaraa Would you mind please helping me.... I have the Chinese variant mate 9 with l29 firmware in the US. But I haven't had the success you've had. My mate 9 doesn't seem to be supporting the same bands as the l29 variant (b2, b4, b5 or b17) as I'm unable to get any 4g/LTE on at&t. All I've been able to connect to is hspa. I don't know what to do. Not having good speeds is horrible and has been really taking away from an otherwise good experience with this phone. Thanks in advance.
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Maybe your sim card is the problem, maybe your settings are the problem.
I heard of someone who needed to change their sim card to get LTE on AT&T. I suggest going to an AT&T store and asking for help.

duraaraa said:
Maybe your sim card is the problem, maybe your settings are the problem.
I heard of someone who needed to change their sim card to get LTE on AT&T. I suggest going to an AT&T store and asking for help.
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I thought the same and just did that today. Needless to say, they had no clue. According to them, everything was set up correctly at the first store I went to to get the phone activated.... They told me today that the APN for 4g LTE is "att nxtgenphone" but my phone gets no service upon choosing it. It only works when selecting "att phone", which is hspa. I'm truly at a loss.
Do you know what sim that person had to change to? I got my sim from the at&t store last week.

mrmajor247 said:
I thought the same and just did that today. Needless to say, they had no clue. According to them, everything was set up correctly at the first store I went to to get the phone activated.... They told me today that the APN for 4g LTE is "att nxtgenphone" but my phone gets no service upon choosing it. It only works when selecting "att phone", which is hspa. I'm truly at a loss.
Do you know what sim that person had to change to? I got my sim from the at&t store last week.
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Sorry. I've only used t-mobile in the US so I'm not very knowledgeable about att

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Sorry. I've only used t-mobile in the US so I'm not very knowledgeable about att
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Oh ok, thanks anyway. I'm just so confused on how to resolve this, if it can even be resolved.

mrmajor247 said:
Oh ok, thanks anyway. I'm just so confused on how to resolve this, if it can even be resolved.
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I can confirm the Chinese version works on ATT with 4G. I have the AL00 which I bought in hongkong, and I am using the same ATT SIM card I had for years, 4G works as soon as I turned on the phone in SFO. Getting 50Mbps+ download...

mrmajor247 said:
I thought the same and just did that today. Needless to say, they had no clue. According to them, everything was set up correctly at the first store I went to to get the phone activated.... They told me today that the APN for 4g LTE is "att nxtgenphone" but my phone gets no service upon choosing it. It only works when selecting "att phone", which is hspa. I'm truly at a loss.
Do you know what sim that person had to change to? I got my sim from the at&t store last week.
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Very odd. Are you sure you have the AL00 model? I have also verified full LTE functionality with this phone on AT&T - including band 17.

You'll notice that the:
AL00 model supports the following LTE bands: B1, B3, B7, B38, B39, B40, B41

emaileverything said:
I can confirm the Chinese version works on ATT with 4G. I have the AL00 which I bought in hongkong, and I am using the same ATT SIM card I had for years, 4G works as soon as I turned on the phone in SFO. Getting 50Mbps+ download...
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Oh wow. Well as frustrating as it's been, that does make me feel a bit better. So you think maybe it's the sim that the at&t rep put in my mate 9? I was previously on Verizon so I couldn't just switch the sim over as u did.
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Goronok said:
Very odd. Are you sure you have the AL00 model? I have also verified full LTE functionality with this phone on AT&T - including band 17.
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I'm very sure....I have the 6gb variant shipped from China, running the l29 firmware. But even so, all the mate 9's should have the bands for LTE/4g, right....
Do you have any ideas? Did you already have a sim card on at&t which u just put in the mate 9 or did you get one from the store upon activating the phone? Any help is greatly appreciated.

mrmajor247 said:
Oh wow. Well as frustrating as it's been, that does make me feel a bit better. So you think maybe it's the sim that the at&t rep put in my mate 9? I was previously on Verizon so I couldn't just switch the sim over as u did.
One thing is different from my side (besides my old AT&T SIM) is that I haven't rebranded my Mate9, I am still using the Chinese L00 firmware B165. Not sure if that makes any difference...
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emaileverything said:
mrmajor247 said:
Oh wow. Well as frustrating as it's been, that does make me feel a bit better. So you think maybe it's the sim that the at&t rep put in my mate 9? I was previously on Verizon so I couldn't just switch the sim over as u did.
One thing is different from my side (besides my old AT&T SIM) is that I haven't rebranded my Mate9, I am still using the Chinese L00 firmware B165. Not sure if that makes any difference...
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Yeah I'm not sure if it makes a difference either....I wouldn't assume so since the firmware goes to the variant which seems to have less issues, but what do I know, I'm definitely at loss. Thanks for the input.
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Three Network Versions

Hey everyone,
the new Zenfone 6 is amazing, besides the FlipCamera it has nearly everything (big battery, microSD, 3,5 mm headphone,...).
Just one thing irritates me: there are three Versions A, B and C, as one can see here under "Network Standard"
https://www.asus.com/Phone/ZenFone-6-ZS630KL/Tech-Specs/
So can someone tell me what that means? Like if I get the European version A (with Band 20), will I than for instance not be able to use it in the USA for telephone / SMS?! Or just not LTE / can I still use it like on UMTS? No LTE at all or just not certain carriers?
Hope someone can make it clear to me, thanks in advance

You'll be able to use it anywhere, it's just there's slightly less band coverage, so some networks in some countries would be nixed.
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.

It means you'll have to be sure to verify you get the version with the bands needed for your particular carrier. You have to be very careful and verify before buying as it seems with the ZenFone 5Z, for example, sellers don't always properly clarify which version they're selling.
You need to find out which of the main bands your phone carrier uses then match them up to one of the versions. I use AT&T prepaid, so for for example I need a phone with coverage for bands 2,4,5,8, and 17 if I recall correctly.
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.

Checked out the bands available on the Asus site you linked (thank you very much BTW) and it seems they are missing bands 66(extension of band 4) & 71 (600mhz frequency) so it seems like it may work okay on TMobile.
What do you guys think if those two bands are missing? Will it be detrimental to daily use or not really? Currently on an OG Pixel and this Asus offering is looking like a future purchase!!

CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?

Stanto said:
CDMA (Sprint or Verizon) compatiblity in the US?
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Looks like the C variants might work for you but double check the bands for your carrier Kimovil.com.

mudnightoil said:
See Kimovil.com for network compatibility.
Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495.
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Thanks for the hint.
I need Band 20 (O2 Germany), so I can only use Version A (so no B or C for me).
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I just checked: T-Online and Vodafone use Band 20 and 32 (in Germany), but none of the three versions support both.

MartyM76 said:
If some bands aren't covered you won't have LTE in that area, as not all areas you're in are using the same network frequency bands. Therefore coverage can get worse when you travel with a phone without full band support.
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Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!

JJ111 said:
Ok, but does it mean I will at least have telephone and SMS in those areas, where the LTE band won't be supported?!
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Yes, as long at the other bands are supported (which they should be) it will drop to 3G/4G or whatever. That's why people using some Chinese phones for example in the USA can use everything but LTE.
You might
need to check however about VoLTE, I think. I don't have T-Mobile but you should read more about that as I've seen it mentioned in XDA & other places.
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> Gearbest currently have the 6GB / 64GB Version C (most bands) for €495
I only see the A version there. Where did you find the C version?

This device just hit my radar... looks like we might have an upgrade winner!
For Tmobile US, C model is the way to go. The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.

charlatan01 said:
The two highest bands that are missing with this device would get you better signal indoors / less interference, but I am not sure how far along that tech even is.
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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.

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By highest bands do you mean 66 and 71? The only phones that use band 71 at the moment are Samsung s8 Active and LG V30. I currently have an OG Pixel and it does not use 66 or 71 and I get great coverage in the East coast even when going north into the mountains.
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Yep, those are the two. Those two are still relatively new, and general Tmo coverage continues to improve here in Colorado.

I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands. I would be surprised if there were any major issues with that otherwise what's the point of even selling it in the USA?

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I imagine that once the phone is sold on the asus.com website that particular variant will support all the main carriers LTE bands.
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Yes, for example in the case of the 5Z I just ordered (to get me by since I desperately need a phone with a better camera & no OLED to cause eye strain) the bands listed for phones at the Asus USA online store cover AT&T properly and to the best of my knowledge T-Mobile as well.
I figured out that they don't list phones there that aren't USA network compatible. I still check, regardless, just to feel 100% sure but that's what I found.
It's the 3rd party sellers you really need to be careful about and always verify.

The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.

This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.

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This probably would have been my first choice until I noticed the different versions. With more and more manufacturers choosing to release single, global bands phones, I really don't understand why Asus insist on continuing to release regional versions of their phones.
Back in the days when everyone made regional models, I had the Padfone Infinity 2 and it was a great phone (until a late OTA release have it the new ZenUI, which was promptly removed). After reading that the latest ZenUI 6 has been slimmed down to an almost stock Android experience, I thought it might once again be similar to what Asus provided before ZenUI came along and that I can now once again consider Asus phones. Wrong!
I spend time in both Europe and Asia and there is no version that covers both areas major LTE bands. So Asus will have to remain on the list of phones to ignore.
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I'm in the same position. The C version covers everything I need except for Band 20 which is a necessity throughout Europe. The A version has Bamd 20 but won't work on US LTE. They did the same thing with the Zenfone 2 and inexplicably mixed up the bands regionally. I'll stick with my NexS for now but keep an eye on this phone in case the Limited edition they usually release solves the problem.

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The OnePlus 7 pro has bands 66 and 71.
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I don't want the OP7. This isn't the OP7 forum.

Will there be an international release?

I'm looking for a new budget phone and this one seems perfect, but will it be available internationally? If yes, how long will it take?

See Y're from Netherlands, since some important LTE bands for Europe are missing (Band 20), we need a global version made for us.

triovi said:
See Y're from Netherlands, since some important LTE bands for Europe are missing (Band 20), we need a global version made for us.
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There actually is a global version, but I don't know how long it would take to actually get outside of India..
https://www.giztop.com/phones/poco-x2-global-version.html

Will a Chinese market Mi 10 Pro and/or Mi 10 Ultra work with UK Vodafone?

Hi there, hoping someone can help with an answer;
I'm considering buying a Chinese market version of either the Xiaomi Mi 10 Pro or Mi 10 Ultra but just wanted to make sure that I'll continue to get decent 4G coverage (and hopefully even 5G coverage) on Vodafone UK.
I realise the CN version of the phone doesn't support or have band 20 which from what I've googled so far is 800Mhz.
I have no idea how phone signal actually works, so with this missing band, will I still get full coverage from the remaining bands the phone does support; B1, B3 and B7?
Does it mean that with 75% of the bands, I'll only get 75% coverage? Do certain phone masts only broadcast in B20, meaning I'd get zero 4G signal if the masts my phone uses fall into that scenario?
I'm a complete Layman with all this stuff (as I'm sure you can probably tell from the above ) so was hoping someone could help me out before I commit to spending a load of money on a phone that wont work here in the UK.
Thank you.

Incat said:
I don't know how Vodafone compares to Three here in the uk, but I've owned quite a few Xiaomi phones , and haven't really noticed any difference in ones that have B20 or not.
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Thank you for the reply,
So some of the Xiaomi phones you've had have been Chinese import ones?
And there was no difference in 4g performance Vs global Xiaomi phones? (Just asking coz global versions do have band 20 - 800Mhz)
Thanks.

Incat said:
Yes, but I'm on Three and it might be location dependent too, but I've never had a problem getting 4g on phones with no band 20.
Check what bands Vodafone use compared to Three.
You can buy a global Mi10 Pro with band 20, though the non pro seems easier to get hold of.
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That's great, I'll double check the differences in bands used between Three and Vodafone.
Finding a global Mi 10 Pro has been impossible so far, but fingers crossed......
Thanks very much again, really appreciate it.