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[Mod] Onkyo Music player 1.3.1 (modified Apk) "Update2' Over 70 Band Eq

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So i had abunch of cofee and stayed up screwing with this.
I am completly shocked at what doesnt
i haver never had any player that comes close to this onkyo app
Whats so special ?
the spp has a file (preset) it cantains 11 srrings with preset frequencies. each freq string had a gain value if (0)
The apps Eq let you adjust each up to a value of 12.
So i added Like 38 bands and spaced them closer at the bottom end.
Also the gain strings that were (0)
These strings Now have values like 1600,1700
Yeah, I am not kidding , i run it through my liittle Shark speaker snd is fricken Awaesome
Now i tried it on a stock unrooted Galaxy S5 without any equalizer or anything. I crapped my pants It scared m
i can onlg imagine if it was bluetooth to a fat Onkyo with a couple Velodynes.
Or maybe a car setup
It will make cheap bluetooth speakers sound more exoensive
But be careful.
Its a little weird since the app thinks theres 11 quiet bands.
once you get its gonna apply some gains even if you turn it off.
I havent trues manipulating the bands in tge apps eq inividually. I raise the whole bar at once Or one side or the other
I am gonna say it may use more Memory than most music players .Probably more juice too
Have fun

Well call this The Bass Edition
its Basically the same With an aditional 12 or so bands
added the Low end
We now go from 31.25 to 500 in increments of 25
(after 500 theres a couple 50 then 100 increments With about gaps of 500 in the upper end.
I can guarantee you wont be missin any boom

The Beast
This will work for any phone it will install to. Makes music sound awesome on any speaker. But this is now not and irdinary average music player anymore. I am gonna guess there is no app anywhere that has this huge array of bands
Also the added gains are huge Originally the app could add gain of 12 . there about 1950 at low end 1800 at the top
This will probaly give you more than most audio mod packages that need to be installed to you system
i am hoping you can connect to a $ 5000 00 stereo and nobodyvwill believe your 50 dollar phone is powering it
It was originally 11 bands when i started i added 70 maybe more. Makin arounx 80 band eq.
The bands at the bottom are clustered very close with extra gain. To help you get that low end rumble we all want.
Much of the low end sounds do not come from the surface of the speakers face, but eminates from the encloser, So you need to get the surface to move back and forth slamming air particles into the walls of the speaker box
i am now hearing notes and beats from music I was never able to hear before Even on an unmodified phone.
Some albums i have are old and recorded at low rates They used to sound crappy .
This mod improves greatly
Having the Onkyo Unlocker will activate the upsampler and a couple other features .
Edit: : YEAH BE PREPARED .THIS WILL DRAIN YOUR BATTERY QUICKER THAN A REGULAR MUSIC PLAYER

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Protect headphones by configuring a high pass filter in mixer_paths.xml?

Hi,
I have a rooted Xperia Z5 and I have 32 ohm earbuds that have a very clear bass reproduction, and they sound great with the phone's built-in impedance matching feature (called "Automatic optimisation" in the settings). However, that feature also "enhances" the low end to the point where the earbuds physically break. I don't use any EQ or bass boost, because it's already more than enough.
Now I've seen a lot of sound mods that purportedly boost bass and whatnot, and wanting to do the exact opposite of that I decided to try looking for a tutorial on what all the different settings do and how to change them, which I couldn't find. I tried looking at my own mixer_paths.xml to see if I could make sense of it by myself but although mostly friendly named the settings are pretty cryptic and I'm not sure if I could for instance, if I found something that looks like a high pass filter in the telephony mixer channel, simply copy it to the headphone channel and have it sound right or even work at all.
To clarify, what I want to do is just cut off everything below, say, 30Hz, and then see how high I can go before things start to sound bad, or maybe do a more gentle roll-off if that's possible. I've tried the graphic equaliser but the 5 bars available are way too crude to do something like this. Doing a -1 or -2 on the bass boost slider certainly helps but it affects too much (the range is too high).
So any help on whether or not this is even possible and if so where I should look are appreciated. Thanks!

New head unit install has static noise

I have just installed an Erisen 7591-HA (PX5) into my 2010 Golf Gti and I am getting static and digital processing sounds through my speakers.
If I mute the head unit there is no static or other sounds.
The digital processing noise happens when playing music via usb and Spotify when selecting the next track.
This is my first Android head deck and I am really disappointed.
Sound is going through an Alpine PDX-F6 amp.
I have tried disconnecting the radio plug and removing the head unit from the dash but no change still has static and processing sounds.
Sound issues remain if the engine is off it makes no difference.
Static and digital sounds do not increase with volume, it remains the same no matter what volume it is at unless the head unit is muted.
Good quality RCA and speaker cable was used.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I have the same issue with a Belsee unit I installed last week. Do you have a line-level filter in your harness? I have a theory that the line-level filter that's included in mine is unnecessary, as it's coming straight off where the RCA outs would normally be (and those are line level already, right?).

tonyarnold said:
I have the same issue with a Belsee unit I installed last week. Do you have a line-level filter in your harness? I have a theory that the line-level filter that's included in mine is unnecessary, as it's coming straight off where the RCA outs would normally be (and those are line level already, right?).
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No I do not have a line level filter on mine.
I have tried using an RCA GROUND LOOP ISOLATOR but this done nothing.
Below is a link to the sound I am getting from the head unit, you will see it only makes the sounds when volume is not muted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhT7AavZbg

Same issue on my PX5 KGL unit, not tested with filters or similar...

I read somewhere that the LED color-changing caused interference - and I noticed that you have yours setup that way. Have you tried setting a static color? Also, make sure all of your wiring is clean and try to keep any speaker wires away from any power wires (although that is more applicable to an external app setup).
Can you hear the noise at all while music is actually playing? Obviously, it would be better if it wasn't there are all, but if you can't hear it normally (only hear it when nothing is playing), then I wouldn't sweat it too much. All you can do is make sure that your wiring is clean and maybe try adjusting the LED settings and the "pre-amp" settings under the factory menu (maybe see if reducing the "System" setting under "Voice" helps reduce it). Once you try using things like ground-loop isolaters, etc, then there is a chance that the music fidelity is reduced even more.

jtrosky said:
I read somewhere that the LED color-changing caused interference - and I noticed that you have yours setup that way. Have you tried setting a static color? Also, make sure all of your wiring is clean and try to keep any speaker wires away from any power wires (although that is more applicable to an external app setup).
Can you hear the noise at all while music is actually playing? Obviously, it would be better if it wasn't there are all, but if you can't hear it normally (only hear it when nothing is playing), then I wouldn't sweat it too much. All you can do is make sure that your wiring is clean and maybe try adjusting the LED settings and the "pre-amp" settings under the factory menu (maybe see if reducing the "System" setting under "Voice" helps reduce it). Once you try using things like ground-loop isolaters, etc, then there is a chance that the music fidelity is reduced even more.
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Yeah have tried all the above and nothing changes.
The sound quality is poor also with higher ranges being really scratchy.
I am sure the unit would be fine if not using a higher end amp and just running the speakers off the head unit, I have read a few posts online and on youtube that the RCA output signal can be really poor with certain brands.
I just sent the unit back today for a full refund and will now be buying a brand name such as Alpine, Pioneer etc etc

Question Joying Optical Questions

Using Optical from my Joying Android 10 unit.
Was curious about the "Power Conditioning" setting under Device - Sound - Amp
Is this basically a 'gain' setting and could this induce clipping through the Optical output?
It does increase overall volume when turning it up, so at what point does it clip, If at all?

requested to move to FYT forum

surfer63 said:
requested to move to FYT forum
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What is FYT?

Emg24538 said:
Using Optical from my Joying Android 10 unit.
Was curious about the "Power Conditioning" setting under Device - Sound - Amp
Is this basically a 'gain' setting and could this induce clipping through the Optical output?
It does increase overall volume when turning it up, so at what point does it clip, If at all?
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On mine, the default is 50 out of a possible 60
On increasing it to 60, the sound quality was still good, but the resolution on the audio wasn't good. Volume level 1 was too loud for background and volume 0 was obviously still nothing.
Admiteddly, I'm running through a DSP and several amplifiers, so your effect might be lessened, but keeping the conditioning at 50/60 worked best for me

Emg24538 said:
What is FYT?
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There are a few real manufacturers of head units: FYT, Microntek, Topways, etc.
They deliver to resellers. For FYT those resellers are for example Medeke M300/M500/M600/K500/K600, NaviFly, Idoing, Joying, T'eyes, some Zhan units, Kingbeats, and probably a few others.
NaviFly and Medeke also sell cheaper units from other manufacturers.

jgaskell said:
On mine, the default is 50 out of a possible 60
On increasing it to 60, the sound quality was still good, but the resolution on the audio wasn't good. Volume level 1 was too loud for background and volume 0 was obviously still nothing.
Admiteddly, I'm running through a DSP and several amplifiers, so your effect might be lessened, but keeping the conditioning at 50/60 worked best for me
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Thanks for the reply!
I found a reviewer on youtube:
He did distortion tests, and said the Joying starts to clip on Optical and analog about volume level 32, and he did his testing with the "power conditioner" at 60. (I posted question about this in his comments.)
Im with you, right now I dropped it down to 50, may even go 40. I too am using a DSP to amps, and my gains are way down and its still pretty loud at low volume levels. Sounds great though.
Not sure what you mean by "volume 1 was too loud for background"?

Sorry, I meant even at volume 1, the sound was too loud even for background music, it would still drown out a conversation in the car.

Emg24538 said:
Thanks for the reply!
I found a reviewer on youtube:
He did distortion tests, and said the Joying starts to clip on Optical and analog about volume level 32, and he did his testing with the "power conditioner" at 60. (I posted question about this in his comments.)
Im with you, right now I dropped it down to 50, may even go 40. I too am using a DSP to amps, and my gains are way down and its still pretty loud at low volume levels. Sounds great though.
Not sure what you mean by "volume 1 was too loud for background"?
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I have the same unit and found no clipping at full volume on the RCAs at stock settings. This guy also tested one of the new Joying units and found the same thing, no cliping at max volume on the RCAs. He gets to the testing around 28:30

madmatt2024 said:
I have the same unit and found no clipping at full volume on the RCAs at stock settings. This guy also tested one of the new Joying units and found the same thing, no cliping at max volume on the RCAs. He gets to the testing around 28:30
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Thanks, I remember watching this video! Although he doesn't mention specifically the optical output.
But this has me curious:
Being digital, I didnt think Optical itself could induce clipping unless the data itself already had clipping in it?
So, for the headunit to control volume over Optical, I wonder...is the headunit converting digital data to analog first (DAC) then processed through its internal amplifier, to then be converted back to digital (ADC) to output through Optical? Is this how its controlling volume I wonder?
I really wish I understood how it all worked.

As far as I know, the optical output will only show clipping if the source material was recorded such that it was clipped.
The digital signal comes from the source, goes through the Android audio layer (up or down sampled, as necessary to 48Khz) and then is transformed to the correct SPDIF format (coax or optical).
In the second video (New Release Alert...) - they are just measuring the RCA outputs (so after the internal DAC), the optical/coax output is not tested.
Digital volume control is handled differently - ideally you should leave the Joying volume maxed out and control the volume downstream (i.e., through your external DSP). The Joying volume control degrades the digital signal (to degree to which it is audible is a different question) and the only way around that is to keep the Joying at full volume.

Is an Eq app for high range (30-40dB) boost possible?

I have mild to mod hearing loss. I have hearing aids but there are cases where wearing them is not possible or desirable, a key one being when using NC headphones. So to compensate I have searched high & low for an Equalizer app or any other audio amplification category type app that can boost on-board/streaming volume by frequency. Basically it "should" be as simple as an Equalizer app that has the abiity to boost up to say 30-40dB (or more) but the highest I've ever seen is 18dB. Most apps only run 6-10 band to max 10 or 15dB. Even Neutralizer that appears to sort of fit this need can only boost to 10!
There seems to be an abundance of apps that target hearing impaired but they are either hearing aid paired apps & just control the aides or they try to substitute for aides & amplify ambient sound - ie amplify microphone input. One of these Petralex goes to 30dB, which makes me think it is technically possible.
So bottom line is I have to wonder if it is technically just not possible; Android doesn't allow that level/power of amplification or is that there is just not enough perceived need for something along these lines. I could see it as an add for the headphone makes but again - eg: Sony MX headphones companion app has an Eq but only boost to 10dB - meant for taste not hearing loss.
I have a DEV background but have worked in sys admin for 10+ years now - IF it is possible I may entertain the idea of giving it a shot myself even if only for my own use.