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Nexus 5 looking for a ROM...

Hi, I'm looking for a stable ROM, there are tons of ROMs out there based on kitkat 4.4.x and the new Lolipop. I've had a look at some ROM's such as Euphoria and Chroma, I haven't actually flashed them yet as I'm currently running CM11 M11. But unfortunately I have some issues with Greenify and the picture/video quality is bad compared to e.g. stock Kitkat 4.4.4 with HDR+.
If there's a camera module with HDR and better picture quality I don't mind flashing this, as CM11 has more features than I use. But if there's no module than my question is what ROM would you guys recommend?
It has to have/be;
-Stable
-Good GSM/GPS Signal
-Good Battery Life, CM11 running on ART during night in idle only takes arond 2% battery so thats around 8-10h. The battery lasts me around 2-3 days on average, last time I managed to get just over 4 days.
-Good Camera, preferably with HDR+
-Simple, I'm looking for a ROM which is simple and quick/lightweight.
I'm not a fan of lolipop thats why I'm still running CM11 and not CM12, but I'll just use Nova Launcher and get some themes for it to make it look more appearing.

You should be able to flash the google camera addon from pa gapps, if you find it.

As you might know we cannot be judges of 'best' ROMs on XDA (or make competitive comparisons of ROMs to a certain extent e.t.c.), so personally I'm afraid I cannot help you.
If you are really in demand of an answer for this, then try one of the not heavily modified AOSP ROMs, which should do the job on your desired criteria with regards to the choices.
My own personal picks would be Terminus & RastaPop because I have gotten used to the clean work done by the devs, and source code is awesome - however that is my choice and the 'best' ROM for you is only for you to decide for yourself.
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californicated said:
You should be able to flash the google camera addon from pa gapps, if you find it.
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I've flashed the gapps provided by CM for the CM11 ROM and I have installed the Google Camera from the PA. But the HDR option is missing from the menu and the picture quality compared to stock 4.4.4 or 5.0.1 is worse and not as sharp. I've tried to search for a solution to this and some people seem to flash the camera module from Motorolla, but even though some people managed to get the HDR, the camera just crashes once you try to select it or that oprion is just simply missing.
sewer56lol said:
As you might know we cannot be judges of 'best' ROMs on XDA (or make competitive comparisons of ROMs to a certain extent e.t.c.), so personally I'm afraid I cannot help you.
If you are really in demand of an answer for this, then try one of the not heavily modified AOSP ROMs, which should do the job on your desired criteria with regards to the choices.
My own personal picks would be Terminus & RastaPop because I have gotten used to the clean work done by the devs, and source code is awesome - however that is my choice and the 'best' ROM for you is only for you to decide for yourself.
Please also use the Q&A section as necessary.
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Tbh IMHO there's no best ROM, well that's my experiance over the years with different phones. You can have a ROM which suits most of your needs, but it might not do the same for another person that's why we have a great choice of great ROM's to pick from. It's the same with cars, you can't just say that one car is the best. An example would be a performance car which does 80-90mpg with a better sunspension than a e.g. Bentley. That's impossible, you can't have everything so you go for the car whicch ticks most of the boxes on your criteria list. That's why I listed what things I'm looking for from the ROM, I'm not asking for the best ROM, not sure where you got the idea from?
P.s. Thanks for the request, I wasn't sure were to post this. It was either Q&A or General.
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Is the newer lolipop stabler than 4.4.4? I'm not a fan of lolipop as it looks like a bad copy of iOS IMHO and the amount of issues I had with the early versions 5.0-5.0.2 put me off a bit. But thankfully android is a very customizable system and so I can make lolipop look decent, so not that much of a problem.

Stock..?
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Donnie Sins said:
Stock..?
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I was thinking of running 4.4.4 Kitkat stock with Xposed, but I've read that people were having prolems running Xposed with ART...

IIC3 said:
Is the newer lolipop stabler than 4.4.4? I'm not a fan of lolipop as it looks like a bad copy of iOS IMHO and the amount of issues I had with the early versions 5.0-5.0.2 put me off a bit. But thankfully android is a very customizable system and so I can make lolipop look decent, so not that much of a problem.
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5.0 brought me back to 4.4.4, too. But 5.1 improved a lot

californicated said:
5.0 brought me back to 4.4.4, too. But 5.1 improved a lot
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Are you running stock 5.1? ART or Dalvik? Xposed?

IIC3 said:
Are you running stock 5.1? ART or Dalvik? Xposed?
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Dalvik is nonexistent in Lollipop.
Due to changes in ART Xposed is RIP in 5.1, but 3.0 alpha 1 & 2 work on 5.0.X

sewer56lol said:
Dalvik is nonexistent in Lollipop.
Due to changes in ART Xposed is RIP in 5.1, but 3.0 alpha 1 & 2 work on 5.0.X
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I didn't know that, thanks for the info. Is there an alternative to Xposed on Lolipop 5.1 R3?

Tbh, I still haven't flashed anything. I'm thinking of just flashing stock 5.1 R3, but I'm still seeing numbers of threads about the problems with lolipop.
So ultimately what ROM would you guys recommend keeping in mind; stability, good battery life, good signal/gps and decent camera with HDR? I'm not asking for the best one, just for a ROM that ticks those boxes and is not overdone.
I can see quite a few issues with the elementalx that have been appearing for the past couple days, the camera on CM11 sucks especially since there's no HDR option.

Lg g3 getting Android 6.0 Marshmallow

Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm

flex3269 said:
Looks like are carriers are going to get it.
http://www.vcpost.com/articles/9055...-mobile-carriers-prepping-6-0-marshmallow.htm
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Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.

aybarrap1 said:
Now we just wait to see how long it will take AT&T to actually release the update.
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More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.

Leasj said:
More than likely we will be getting the update in about 3-6 months.
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NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.

jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.

jivenene said:
NOOOO, I want it now!!! (Been hangin around my kids too long...)
That said, Is there a stable 6.0.1 ATT G3 ROM out there? STABLE being the key word.
I really want to be running MM, I have heard great things about it's smoothness and DOZE feature to extend battery life.
If there is a stable ROM, I'll root and install.
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Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.

Leasj said:
Resurrection Remix is stable and I like it a lot.
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Is Android 6.0?

josemiliano said:
Is Android 6.0?
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yep. http://oadam11.com/LG_G3/

chuckhriczko said:
Nothing STABLE yet. That said, I've been running CM13 for over a month and I love it. Builds are unofficial but the latest builds in the dev forum are really fast, stable and have GPS working (for the first time ever for me, even with KK and LL). I run it with the 777 kernel and it's perfect for me.
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Thanks for the feedback. I saw also (in subsequent posts) that the RR MM 6.0 ROM is also stable. I have never run CM before, so can anyone enlighten me so I don't have to drop 8 hours testing out both ROMs.... my questions are:
1) Which has a better camera experience? CM or RR? Stable, no FC.
2) which is more stable with less problems (ie, GPS, BT, no SD card, no 4G data, etc...)
3) which has better battery life?
4) Do either support device encryption? That was one of the major improvements in MM that no one seems to be talking about.
Thanks alot for the replies, and thanks to the developers for creating these, you guys and gals are awesome!

No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.

autosurgeon said:
No camera app will work well other than stock as proprietary drivers and algorithms are used.
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Do I have to use an aftermarket camera app like I did on SlimROMs? I used Open Camera. While it worked, it was sssslllloooowwww and sometimes caused the camera to crash, at which point I would have to pull the battery for it to work again (really annoying when you are trying to get Kindergarten graduation pics of your son...). I uninstalled it and reinstalled it, and those problems went away though. Android is so weird...
For this reason, I will never ever to get inside a google autonomous car. I'm gonna be the last old timer left, and everyone will ridicule me. "In my day, WE drove! And we liked it! We loved it!"

No aftermarket app will change the fact that you will be missing the LG firmware.

Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12

undivide said:
Personally I love the way LG has the camera setup where I can just tap the screen it focuses then snaps it. No LG camera on 3rd party rom so I went back to stock. If your phone is as important to you as you claim given all the questions you asked it would be worth your while to wait for the official update as I will. Let the rest test and be dissatisfied with the problems and lack of features. Note that I haven't had a crash or freeze since I got away from cm12
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Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?

jivenene said:
Point taken, but I don't think I'll get the official OTA MM anyway because I am not on ATT, but on Cricket. Or would I just download from XDA and flash it myself?
Did you still root and debloat the stock ROM? Or just leave it completely stock?
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After trying many a many roms here for both d851 and d850 (My son and mine), I would definitely stick with stock if you take pics. The d851 is actually in better shape (mm wise) as it has a supported CM13, but the camera is poor. As for cricket- my understanding is that some phones get att updates, and some don't. If an update doesn't happen after you know mm has been released, you can wait a week or two and it very well may be posted here to flash- or you can pick up a att go phone sim for a couple of bucks and flash, then drop the cricket sim back in.
And yes you can root & debloat, but I haven't seen a prepackaged 20g (that has the stagefright patch) debloated yet. I just use super uninstaller app from the play store, which requires root.

here I am just stock with root & recovery (if needed) haven't found a need to use either yet but I like having the option available.
I have all the stock crummy at&t apps disabled because actually "removing" them requires quite a bit of time that I haven't yet found.

If I install cm13 or RR do I lose the LG IR remote?

I don't think there is a custom IR remote apk for MM yet like there is for lollipop.
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I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
Sent from my awesome phone.

aybarrap1 said:
I stick to stock based ROMs because of the camera problems on AOSP ROMs. I don't use my camera often, but when I do I want it to work well. I will wait for 6 to be released.
Sent from my awesome phone.
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What is a good stock ROM you would recommend?

Team superluminal's CM12.1

Have anyone tried their ro​m?
http://www.teamsuperluminal.org/mi4c-cyanogenmod-12-1/
How does it compare to cm12.1 from xda thread?
Is cm12.1 from xda thread stable for daily driver? ​

Mayex said:
Have anyone tried their ro​m?
http://www.teamsuperluminal.org/mi4c-cyanogenmod-12-1/
How does it compare to cm12.1 from xda thread?
Is cm12.1 from xda thread stable for daily driver? ​
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Haven't tried SuperLuminal's version yet, but the CM12.1 version you find here on XDA is working fine. There are a few bugs, but nothing a reboot can't handle...
Just keep in mind, that both are unofficial builds of CM12.1, as the CM Team haven't made an official version (yet - or perhaps it might never happend)
But give the SuperLuminal's version a shot - and tell us about your experience.

jonasb_dk said:
Haven't tried SuperLuminal's version yet, but the CM12.1 version you find here on XDA is working fine. There are a few bugs, but nothing a reboot can't handle...
Just keep in mind, that both are unofficial builds of CM12.1, as the CM Team haven't made an official version (yet - or perhaps it might never happend)
But give the SuperLuminal's version a shot - and tell us about your experience.
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Thanks for response. Is cm12.1 smoother than miui? I find mi4c with miui less responsive than my old oneplus one with cm13. It's quite disappointing that my new mi4c is more laggy than 2years old OPO. Will that unofficial cm12.1 fix it a little? Or just snapdragon 808 is way slower than old 801?

Mayex said:
Thanks for response. Is cm12.1 smoother than miui? I find mi4c with miui less responsive than my old oneplus one with cm13. It's quite disappointing that my new mi4c is more laggy than 2years old OPO. Will that unofficial cm12.1 fix it a little? Or just snapdragon 808 is way slower than old 801?
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Coming from OnePlus One as well, but with CM 12s, for that little time I spend using stock MIUI, I did not notice any lack or the phone being slower than the OPO. Actually MIUI ran pretty damn fast on the MI 4c - but the reason I moved away from the official, was because Kaspersky found malware on the ****ing phone. So maybe you should check you phone for malware or any unwanted apps. Depending on where you got the phone, it might have been tampered with.
Maybe, you should try to disable/freeze any apps you do not like first and see if that helps.
Anyway, if it's a faulty model you've received, you might want to return it...

Well this cm 12.1 has the nav bar working with capacitive keys disabled while the other one has it still enabled. I'm sure it will be fixed.
Jonas you probably had a reseller modified rom flashed. The EU rom doesn't have any malware.

Hi guys. I use TS rom for a few days. It is very smooth, likewise the Xiobai rom. Everything is working, except...edge double tap. Of course, you can enable it, but then ehile typing on any keyboard (aosp, google), it causes random backs. This feature is super while surfing on internet, but in real life it is too hmm anoying. I don't even touch edges and keyboard hides. When disable- not. It is my only complain. Battery and smoothness are very good. At night with lte enabled takes 1-2%. Best regards from Poland.
Wysłane z mojego Mi-4c przy użyciu Tapatalka

Xiaomi Service Framework Mod not work for me

I'm testing SuperLuminal CM 12.1 port from yesterday. It works pretty well so far; edge double tap is OK and didn't cause any unexpected behaviour in my usage.
There is no issue of DT2W not working after booting from recovery (that issue is present on Xiaobai's port, you have to reboot once from the ROM to have DT2W back).
Other than that the two ROMs are pretty much the same to me; Xiaobai's one might feel a little bit smoother in my opinion, but really a tiny bit.
I'm trying to get rid of any stuttering playing with entropy settings in Kernel Adiutor, will report back if I'll find anything useful.

Giocarro said:
I'm testing SuperLuminal CM 12.1 port from yesterday. It works pretty well so far; edge double tap is OK and didn't cause any unexpected behaviour in my usage.
There is no issue of DT2W not working after booting from recovery (that issue is present on Xiaobai's port, you have to reboot once from the ROM to have DT2W back).
Other than that the two ROMs are pretty much the same to me; Xiaobai's one might feel a little bit smoother in my opinion, but really a tiny bit.
I'm trying to get rid of any stuttering playing with entropy settings in Kernel Adiutor, will report back if I'll find anything useful.
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Let us know about battery drainage also please

Mayex said:
Thanks for response. Is cm12.1 smoother than miui? I find mi4c with miui less responsive than my old oneplus one with cm13. It's quite disappointing that my new mi4c is more laggy than 2years old OPO. Will that unofficial cm12.1 fix it a little? Or just snapdragon 808 is way slower than old 801?
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Just wanted to say that I experienced the same thing. I had a Nexus 4 with Minimal OS (Android 6.0) and it was sadly faster than the Mi4C.
I'm not saying that the Mi4C is slow. It is fast. But i was expecting something more. Expecially while typing (as write here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/help/expected-t3274918) i can feel the difference.
The Mi4C also have some micro-lag during transition that take away some joy on the daily use..
I'm probably going to try one of theese CM12.1 and see if i can get the same responsiveness i had with the N4

New rom is out now in Team Superluminal site.
Enjoy!
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ermacwins said:
Jonas you probably had a reseller modified rom flashed. The EU rom doesn't have any malware.
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Yes, I know - I tried contacting Coolicool whom I bought it from - but they are just being like what these type of Chinese stores usually are - ignorant towards complains.
I am considering making the switch back to MIUI7 - but I'm not too keen on going back to a KK rom..

jonasb_dk said:
Yes, I know - I tried contacting Coolicool whom I bought it from - but they are just being like what these type of Chinese stores usually are - ignorant towards complains.
I am considering making the switch back to MIUI7 - but I'm not too keen on going back to a KK rom..
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Miui 7 on mi4c is lollipop

ermacwins said:
Miui 7 on mi4c is lollipop
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In that case I might give it a shot

ekkilm said:
New rom is out now in Team Superluminal site.
Enjoy!
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Interesting news, thanks for the good work!
I'll wait for some user feedback before testing, because I just clean-installed your CM port today and will change only if the ROM is almost stable.
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Well, so far battery looks very close to the other CM port. I'm performing a lot of tests with Kernel Adiutor so cannot consider this an average day, but the battery definitely doesn't show any issue.

Giocarro said:
Interesting news, thanks for the good work!
I'll wait for some user feedback before testing, because I just clean-installed your CM port today and will change only if the ROM is almost stable.
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It is pretty stable. I'll been using TS PAC-rom 5.1.1 now for few days and I haven't noticed anything. But like our news says, IT IS UNDER TESTING for now. So if you like to try, take a backup of your current rom. And if you don't like it, you can revert back where you was.
There is lots of options/features from great roms. Like the PACman roms slogan goes "ALL IN ONE"

Does it have nav bar option?

Piston Headset problem under CM
I1m using the Mokee 5.1.1 Rom and its really great, I only have one big problem with it: My 3-button Piston2 headset doesn't work properly, only the play/pause button responds as it should, the volume rockers only open the dialer. It worked perfectly under Miui, but I love these custom roms much more!
Is it possible, to find a solution for this problem?! I'd love to try your rom, especially if there's any chance it will work!

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It is pretty stable. I'll been using TS PAC-rom 5.1.1 now for few days and I haven't noticed anything. But like our news says, IT IS UNDER TESTING for now. So if you like to try, take a backup of your current rom. And if you don't like it, you can revert back where you was.
There is lots of options/features from great roms. Like the PACman roms slogan goes "ALL IN ONE"
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Thanks for the answer, mate!
You know what? I'll give it a go, because I'm on vacation and it is the right moment to play around with this juicy stuff.
Will get back with some feedback soon.

Giocarro said:
Thanks for the answer, mate!
You know what? I'll give it a go, because I'm on vacation and it is the right moment to play around with this juicy stuff.
Will get back with some feedback soon.
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Nice Please, share your feedback in our own sites I did not intend to beg, but all donations / support is greatly appreciated.
Thank you! :fingers-crossed:

What are the fastest and least memory-hogging custom roms?

I've spent a long time using various versions of Cyanogenmod, but I always end up going back to stock sony, because it's just so much faster.
On Cyanogen, I'd sometimes have to wait a good 10-20 second after my phone starts ringing before it starts responding enough for me to answer.
I love all the nice UI stuff that lolipop brings to the table, and being able to install newer apps that no longer support Jellybean is also great, but it seems like this old phone is just not strong enough for it. Anybody have any advice?

I too would like to know which is the fastest and litest mod out there?! I don't care if they have to get rid of some visuals and animations or some features to speed things up or to lighten things.
All I care about is that it should be fast, lite and battery friendly. If I want some more features or visuals, I would get it from play store!

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I've spent a long time using various versions of Cyanogenmod, but I always end up going back to stock sony, because it's just so much faster.
On Cyanogen, I'd sometimes have to wait a good 10-20 second after my phone starts ringing before it starts responding enough for me to answer.
I love all the nice UI stuff that lolipop brings to the table, and being able to install newer apps that no longer support Jellybean is also great, but it seems like this old phone is just not strong enough for it. Anybody have any advice?
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I'm using SlimLP for now and I can say that it is great. It is really fast, never laggs and you have enough memory space for many apps! Just try it and you will see the difference. And the best thing is that @CodeZero regular updates the ROM so we have the latest security patches and ROM features. I hope that I could help you
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I too would like to know which is the fastest and litest mod out there?! I don't care if they have to get rid of some visuals and animations or some features to speed things up or to lighten things.
All I care about is that it should be fast, lite and battery friendly. If I want some more features or visuals, I would get it from play store!
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Xperia_L said:
I'm using SlimLP for now and I can say that it is great. It is really fast, never laggs and you have enough memory space for many apps! Just try it and you will see the difference. And the best thing is that @CodeZero regular updates the ROM so we have the latest security patches and ROM features. I hope that I could help you
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What about the battery bro , I read that CM12.1 and every ROM that it's built on it has battery drain .
For me I'm running an old copy of CM12 it's working like sharp no lagging enough space and the best thing awesome battery.

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What about the battery bro , I read that CM12.1 and every ROM that it's built on it has battery drain .
For me I'm running an old copy of CM12 it's working like sharp no lagging enough space and the best thing awesome battery.
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What version of CM12 you're running now?

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What version of CM12 you're running now?
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cm-12-20150619-NIGHTLY

I tried cm11 recently and it surprised me. Smooth( best experience I ever had) , nice UI, 1.42 gb of internel storage(cm12.1 has 1.2 gb). But it has an ANNOYING bug that made me say hello to cm12.1 : if you turn the screen off and turn it back on right after that, it takes like 10 seconds to turn on. I wish there was a kitkat aosp project for XL that is still being developed or had some stable builds. The latest build of cm11 on CM download page cannot detect sim card and has some wifi problems

Try it :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-l/orig-development/rom-cyanogenmod-12-1-t3195312
I'm using rom cm12 nightly 20160227.
No problem . faster and smoothness. OTA updata. Battery pin.
Rom amzing for everyday use.

Returned To Stock-Rooted.. Is This The Perfect Blend?

I've Tried All The Major Custom ROM Players..
You know their names.
And for the most part.. they were "Glitch-Free" and fairly stable.
Lots of goodies to play with and adjust.. even one offering the "Pure" Experience.. for those that want it Bare-Boned.
And.. even though they were bloat-free, light in weight and smooth.. there were still complaints about this not working or that not working.. or, users asking if they could have Gestures working as smoothly as Stock.. both Camera lenses functioning etc.. etc.. :crying:
It's in EVERY thread.
I'd been mixing and matching so many Kernel's and ROM's trying to achieve... what?
That's when I decided to Re-Encrypt my software throw on 9.5.17.. and Re-Root the darn thing..
A Fresh Start..
Not only has everything been scrubbed clean.. but battery ( Greenified ) Smoothness ( Nova-Prime ) Customization ( Themes ) all really work better than I remembered.
Even with the bloat.. ( I could remove it.. ) everything transistions just as fast as it did with the customs.
I Can Always Go Back.. to C-ROM's and my Anti ( 3 ) is not an issue.. but,
I really don't see a need to.. Stock-Rooted ( IMO ) offers the best Stability / Customization Combo for the XRN5 / Pro.

For most people including me, it's just being close to raw aosp.
I admire the smoothness of miui edge gestures and some goodies that miui brings. But other than that, i just can't stand the ugly side of it, like why an oem will show ads when i download something with stock browser? I know i can use other browsers, but why would mi do that? Did i got the phone for free? So, they put ads to monetize?!
It's good that now i see threads for debloating miui easily but i don't see myself going back to miui anytime soon. Even now that mia2 Cam's been ported and working quite smoothly, i see no reason to go back.
Btw, it's just personal preference. And if stability is what's someone looking for, they should go stock. But it also can be achieved from aosp roms, no doubt. Highly depends on user and how/what they use it for. I have no major problems with the roms I've tried so far.
Aosip, havoc, dotos, now bootleggers. Aosip is the most perfect solution for me.
Cheers.

Understood..
Tisckkytt said:
For most people including me, it's just being close to raw aosp.
I admire the smoothness of miui edge gestures and some goodies that miui brings. i just can't stand the ugly side of it, like why an oem will show ads when i download something with stock browser? I know i can use other browsers, but why would mi do that?
Btw, it's just personal preference.
Aosip, havoc, dotos, now bootleggers. Aosip is the most perfect solution for me.
Cheers.
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Great Post..
Can't disagree with your opinion..
I have no issues either way as far as browsing is concerned.. even without the use of Adaway Rooted or Non-Rooted variants.
MIUI got the Gestures right... that's for sure. The Customs can't touch MIUI Smoothness and Sensitivity levels.
And Batterylife for me is 13% ( tested ) better going factory fresh as well.
Thank Goodness there is a road for each of us to get to our destination! :highfive:
Cheers.

Been there, done that. I remember the good old days when stock ROMs sucked big time. Not so long ago, I pretty much threw MIUI into oblivion on my RN3 because performance was sub-par. Now, it's a completely different world in which I find myself at home when using Oreo-based MIUI 9 and even 10.
All I need these days is the latest stable Android release, Magisk (+ a couple Modules), Nova Launcher, my apps and I'm good to go.
Gone are the days when I tweaked and tweaked the hell out the HW and SW to get decent performance.

I totally agree with the OP. I tried few of the major custom roms and while they were mostly bug free and stable, oreo based stock miui 9 and 10 beta is simply awesome. Miui 10 beta is giving me the best battery life and the most smooth performance, even with tons of bloatware.

Yeah this is the setup I have used since I got this phone. Stock os is stable and fast. Haven't tried any custom Roms yet . If things go south in miui 10 only then will i switch to other roms

I am waiting to get my bootloader unlocked and want to root stock.
Will I be able to OTA upgrade without losing root? Or what's the process here.

Wish there was a tweaked, debloated, zip aligned stock rom..

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I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?

rohanvaja said:
I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?
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Do you really need greenify with miui? It has some background and memory management itself, i think greenify is more suited for AOSP LOS etc. But thats just my opinion.

rohanvaja said:
I too think miui is better suited for our device.. btw how to get greenify working on stock miui?
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I agree what Incogn said. MIUI doesn't need Greenify as it is pretty aggressive. But if you want it there is a Magisk module you can download from Magisk Manager itself. It makes Greenify perform way better like it works with Xposed.

jaidev.s said:
Wish there was a tweaked, debloated, zip aligned stock rom..
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+1

Farhadul Haque said:
I totally agree with the OP. I tried few of the major custom roms and while they were mostly bug free and stable, oreo based stock miui 9 and 10 beta is simply awesome. Miui 10 beta is giving me the best battery life and the most smooth performance, even with tons of bloatware.
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Can u suggest me miui 9 or 10 with anti 3 for good battery and pubg

I am using the same setup of stock miui 10 and magisk root can anyone please suggest me a kernel with wireguard support and good performance and battery life for miui

Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.

RheinPirat said:
Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.
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Can you point me to a custom ROM which has everything including front and back camera working flawlessly?

deathbearer said:
Can you point me to a custom ROM which has everything including front and back camera working flawlessly?
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Every single rom has back and front camera working. It's the Google camera, that's still partially broken. Use Mi A2 port and everything is going to be fine
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RheinPirat said:
Why u want a chinese spy rom? Every custom rom is better than miui.
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If its spy rom and you are concerned why are you using google apps? The biggest data stealers there are. Im quite sure you also use facebook, so hipocricy here is very high. Even if it was spy rom(which is utter nonsense), they cant steal anything from you that google or facebook already didnt.
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MikiGry said:
Every single rom has back and front camera working. It's the Google camera, that's still partially broken. Use Mi A2 port and everything is going to be fine
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Stock custom rom camera compared to stock miui SUCKS. Gcam doesnt work on global, and Mi A2 port has 50 pages of user reported bugs, so no, its quite far from fine if you want stability.

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Stock custom rom camera compared to stock miui SUCKS. Gcam doesnt work on global, and Mi A2 port has 50 pages of user reported bugs, so no, its quite far from fine if you want stability.
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Mi A2 Port works without any Problem on Resurrection Remix 2018.07.23