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Hi,
i don't have a android phone yet. But i'm still a little bit frightened about data security there.
I read this article:
hxxp://w ww.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/28/google_remote_android_application_install/
I think normally you should decide yourself what to uninstall and what not.
So my question is - would it be possible to prevent Google from Accessing your phone, means prevent them from Installing / Uninstalling Applications.
Cause i hate this. My phone is my phone and they aren't allowed to play the "admin"
Regards
eagle
fear not
If you read further into this they are talking about malicious apps and it is done for the malicious app or apps only they are actually protecting your phone from being crippled and it is done systewide for those that use the market
APK's installed from SD can't be touched by Google. Only ones installed from the market can be removed. AFAIK so far they have only removed malicious apps(so far), but Googles definition of malicious is different to mine.
Hi,
thank you for your answers ! I know that they removed only a malicious app...but like mercianary already said: this time they only removed a malicious app ...
They could instead (of remote uninstall) just release a "fix" that you can download over the android market and this fix then cleans your mobile phone...
At least they can't remove stuff that you installed from SD ... this is good ...
But is there a way to modify the rom, so they won't have any access any more ?
Or can u disable this if you got root rights ?
Regards
eagle
P.S.
What else can google do with your phone ? What do they log ?
They take your soul. Piece by piece. Slowly over the years. Just like they do with every other product they give you for "free"
But that's another thread...
Sounds like humor but it's probably right :-/
The fact is ..:
I waited all time for Windows Phone 7. Thought that they would make it a good OS .. but now ... no Multitasking, ugly Menu ... it seems to me worse like the iOS (subjective opinion =) ) .
You don't have enough options/ settings and so on. It looks to me, like they try to copy Apple now, and they don't try to make it better =(
And now Android comes with tethering, Hotspot-Ability, a nice menu ... a "free" market , and so on.
Wouldn't i be afraid of Google i would choose it without hesitation.
You got any Pro Points for Win7 Phone ?
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Don't get me started on Microsoft...
It's certainly possible to mod Market to disable this feature. Ofc you would need root to do this.
well with custom roms and rom specific apps you shouldn't have to worry because essentially you are loading and update zip so i think you'll be OK there and they would be morons to start randomly messing with peoples phones
Hi,
nice answers =) I like you I already got some
New Questions :
- Are there already such modified ROMS ?
- If not - will there be some ?
- @mercianary why i shouldn't get you started on Microsoft? Start please
What is your Fav OS ? Are you scared of google, too ?
HI everyone ..
Nice to join you all , ..
I have come to suffer a lot in controlling some apps permissions using the awesome XPRIVACY. .
So I thought of starting this post so we can help each other out ..
_ Prior to XPRIVACY 3.6.5 I was able to control.almost anything .. now for example I just can't control permissions for some apps .. ie; Mobogenie.com
It still reads my media even though I got them blocked ..
Still is able to read my location ..
So I started this thread so we all share " out of experience " how to get the best out of XPRIVACY ..
P.s ..
I've searched for similar Posts & found nothing .. I hope that I hadn't over looked similar Posts.
Ultimous said:
HI everyone ..
Nice to join you all , ..
I have come to suffer a lot in controlling some apps permissions using the awesome XPRIVACY. .
So I thought of starting this post so we can help each other out ..
_ Prior to XPRIVACY 3.6.5 I was able to control.almost anything .. now for example I just can't control permissions for some apps .. ie; Mobogenie.com
It still reads my media even though I got them blocked ..
Still is able to read my location ..
So I started this thread so we all share " out of experience " how to get the best out of XPRIVACY ..
P.s ..
I've searched for similar Posts & found nothing .. I hope that I hadn't over looked similar Posts.
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We already have an official thread for XPrivacy: http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/modules/xprivacy-ultimate-android-privacy-app-t2320783
All issues should be reported on Github: https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacy
Thanks
Done , &Thank you ,Primokorn
I never get the part why people installing apps they don't trust and try to block stuff with external apps. If you're unsure just test it on emulators like the SDK integrated emulator, bluebox or others and see what the app does.
And no, XPrivacy can't block all stuff. So I highly recommend just no install apps if you're unsure or test it as mentioned in a emulator. As much as I love XPrivacy but it's much over hyped and overrated, some brain and you not need this app and also not if you rom does already supports the Privacy Guard stuff (mostly on CM based ROMS).
.... and I'll never understand why some people Wana clone themselves into people & condemn anything that is not their own preference ...
Xprivacy is a breakthrough .. and it is android as far as I am concerned until someone brings to life a ROM that respects people's right to privacy .. feel free to differ ,CHEF-KOCH , but please do not impose .. thank you
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I never get the part why people installing apps they don't trust and try to block stuff with external apps. If you're unsure just test it on emulators like the SDK integrated emulator, bluebox or others and see what the app does.
And no, XPrivacy can't block all stuff. So I highly recommend just no install apps if you're unsure or test it as mentioned in a emulator. As much as I love XPrivacy but it's much over hyped and overrated, some brain and you not need this app and also not if you rom does already supports the Privacy Guard stuff (mostly on CM based ROMS).
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Sometimes you don't have a choice. May be all your friends are using a particular messaging service, or perhaps the app is critical or at least too useful for your job to give up.
Just don't let other people controlling you - you always have a choice. If all people saying jump from a bridge, will you do it too?
Just tell your friends you take care of your privacy data and ask them to install an similar and possible more secure alternative. If you really need services which doesn't respect your privacy, tell us how a tool like XPrivacy can block all this? If you block all connections you will never be able to use there services. And some stuff can't be faked since this will break the functions. So I see no argument at all.
Who said anything about " breaking connection " .. ?!! mind you that we all know about this new thing called " internet" & we do use it .. " who would've thought ..!!! " & breaking connection means that no creature called "NET" will ever exist on our devices
And where did you find us " users of X privacy & auther /developer " saying that Xprivacy protects everything against everything ..
There seems to be some communication issues here ..
Tell you what ,CHEF-KOCH, .. why don't you write/do something that eventually could make us throw XPRIVACY into the abyss of of forgotten ..
I am sure you are capable of achieving this task for me & my friends and for the rest of the world that is really hungry for your wisdom
Xprivacy is about the main reason I still use my android device with internet.
I'm not as paranoid at I should be but this is how I use x privacy.
It's around 90% successful to start out.(which means 90% I don't just boot loop from the start)
Shave head to avoid pulling hair out
Remove Sim card try to find someplace WiFi inaccessible.
Fresh install of a ROM with as many apks I don't use as possible.
(Apks are removed from the zip file before I flash the ROM)
Install xposed (I never make it a system app by putting it in the zip because that can cause update issues)
Install x privacy, set expert mode on, set all the expert features on, randomize everything are boot.
Reboot into recovery, backup everything
Reboot into device
start x privacy.
Edit template to block every last little thing. except inet.
Apply template to everything except android system, Phone, and system ui. (You can turn those ones off before you apply template).
Reboot device and hope for the best.
If it boots, let it settle and watch for errors.
After a while (your choice on how long) boot into recovery and do another full backup.
Start x privacy edit template to block everything
Manually change 1/4 of system apps to block inet.
Reboot and check for errors, if good do a recovery back up,
If bad restore your backup and change less "inet" restrictions.
repeat until everything is blocked for Inet you can block.
(This can) take hours.
Export your settings from time to time.
Next systematically block the various restrictions on phone, android system and system ui until they are tight as you can make them.
Install newest AFwall + and use while list mode to block everything (after setting it up in xprivacy of course)
Install network log to check network.
Use the "usage data" to give the minimum permissions required to use the system apps you need to use.
(Back up in recovery and export settings often as there is nothing worse than boot looping your device after an hours of work)
All new installed apps should be completely restricted at install., and you have to remove the restrictions one at a time to get them working with minimal access
Yes I do this every time I install a new rom.
Yes I would love to hear of a better way
No I can't just import all the settings from a different ROM
Boot loops are just too hard to track down with a large import
I have found some apps have no restrictions for a few seconds right after install. So I never install anything with internet connected and I always wipe the apps data and cache after I have it set up in x privacy and before I use the internet.
One day I will build x privacy from source so it can block the android system identification section. That is disabled by default now. with all the apps that factory ROMs and even aosp ROMs dump into uid 1000 it's just to open for me to love.
That was a pretty good post @nutpants, .. Thank you
Dear All,
I use Samsung Galaxy A8 SM-A800F with marshmallow 6.0.1 (Official).
My mobile is hacked. Someone is remotely accessing my mobile and making changes as per his will, hacker is able to access my device without mobile data/internet enabled.
I have observed following things -
- Hacker can track my keystrocks/screen touch
- He can access my whatsapp messages
- He is able to reply to my whatapp messages
- He is able to make folders in my mobile
- He is able to restart mobile
- He is able to enable/diable mobile data
- He can access my sms and can send me customized sms.
- He is able to do all above things without mobile data enabled
I am not sure whats going on with my mobile, is this some king of virus/malware which is allowing hacker to control my device ?
I have tried installing various antivirus.
I have tried factory reset / installing official firmware using odin but still hacker is able to control my device remotely.
Kindly advice me on how to fix this problem.
Best Regards,
Romob
Please advise
romob said:
Dear All,
I use Samsung Galaxy A8 SM-A800F with marshmallow 6.0.1 (Official).
My mobile is hacked. Someone is remotely accessing my mobile and making changes as per his will, hacker is able to access my device without mobile data/internet enabled.
I have observed following things -
- Hacker can track my keystrocks/screen touch
- He can access my whatsapp messages
- He is able to reply to my whatapp messages
- He is able to make folders in my mobile
- He is able to restart mobile
- He is able to enable/diable mobile data
- He can access my sms and can send me customized sms.
- He is able to do all above things without mobile data enabled
I am not sure whats going on with my mobile, is this some king of virus/malware which is allowing hacker to control my device ?
I have tried installing various antivirus.
I have tried factory reset / installing official firmware using odin but still hacker is able to control my device remotely.
Kindly advice me on how to fix this problem.
Best Regards,
Romob
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are you sure its a hacker? as mobile apps can do all that if you give them permission. why are you sure its a hacker? why would someone hack you?
simms22 said:
are you sure its a hacker? as mobile apps can do all that if you give them permission. why are you sure its a hacker? why would someone hack you?
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I am sure someone is doing mischief,
I have tried resetting my device, uninstalling apps etc. but issue still exist.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Please help
romob said:
Please help
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have you tried a full wipe and installing a.cistom rom?
"err on the side of kindness"
it's too dangerous. List some apps and source you got apps from ( if you remember all of them)
Have you let somebody tease your phone?
This is not funny but funny as I'm dealing with the same thing, I believe it comes down to WiFi hack, or through tags or nfc or whatever I've done the same thing resetting, rooting, removing some files ex, I've revoked, froze ect.... not sure what do to my self. It have noticed when I hard reset and it unmounts a file. Still learning code so not tip top on what it says. If I can get maybe a list of exploits it would at least give me a place to start. I'm on an s7 Sept patch bone stock apps I have Google chrome,messages, phone,contacts.
You could write a book on what you possible need to do, depending on how your system was compromised.
As you can see them replying to your messages I'd bet it's one of your mates that has done something! Having access to your phone would make hacking it easier eg start with a remote control apps and then gain more access later.
I'm no expert but I think you did the right thing reinstalling your rom, but if it's coming back then they must be able to reinstall malware as they have your wifi password, network password, or it's on your sd card or a bad app that you have reinstalled and can gain root or something.
You need to change ALL your passwords that may enable access to your network or phone, incl work etc. ALSO update/reinstall or factory reset any modem/router/network firmware/pc you can as they may have opened some backdoor. But only have one thing on at a time as you fix it, else one might just compromise your network again. Make sure things like tv, printers etc have secure wifi settings (change ALL default passwords to your own strong ones)
Once all have been restored/factory reset with new passwords then you can turn them on again. (I would leave sd cards out and don't install all your apps yet, add them one at a time and only from Play store) also change passwords for all apps as they may still be able to gain access to them & check things like two factor authentication is set to use phone numbers you have set, not theirs.
I have to go now, though there are more possibilities, I've probably missed some things too, but hope I have given you some ideas. Good luck
Hello guys, as you probably see I'm new at this forums, there's only one reason I joined and is because I own the BLU STUDIO X5 (S390U) since while ago.
I noticed that this phone has built-in somewhat thing of malware on the system APKs of it. What do I mean? Don't matter how many times you do a clean, use anti-malware apps, hard-reset, even flashing to a new stock ROM or a CROM made from the original one: The problem is going to persist.
So... Tell us, which would be the solution? Well I was analysing all the possibilities, even evolving a CROM of it, however this infection it seems to be part of other APKs components, as it is visible through Anti-MalwareBytes, that Settings.APK is corrupted with it.
The solution it seems to be easy but it could be complex, even knowing that other APKs could be infected but are not listed on the scanns: Erasing Settings.APK and try to replace it with a non-infected one, but this is complex as I said.
Before I continue I need to explain what this infection does: After you use the smartphone for first time (counting resets, flashes, etc.) the smartphone is just good, even if your not using internet.
After sometime you will notice some new apps installed on your smartphone, what this infection does is to install them under what it could be called a "Silence mode", PlayStore is not needed to download such apps, either a Web Browser.
But, hey, this doesn't sound bad as it just sounds annoying lad... Aye, this sounds as if the problem is only something redundantly annoying, but not is only that, this malware is found as a Hijack and doesn't sound bad too, however, if someone with enough knowledge knows how to manage a Hijack it can even steal info from your smartphone.
But probably you're thinking, well you can fix it not allowing Unknown Sources APKs to install on it, well...
This is what it takes me to the second point of it: This malware changes the settings of your smartphone whatever the times it wants by itself, don't matter which app you use to not allow this change by itself, it is going to do it anyway.
But why? It seems that the infection has Root Access, what this mean is that it has a higher level access (is running under an Administrator mode).
And we're back again to the solution, you'll think: Maybe if I root it and replace the Settings.APK is going to be fixed, well is not that easy, apart of wasting your time, the smartphone can be even more vulnerable and unstable.
The best solution that is going to work and that's why I posted this here:
To fix this the Stock ROM must be re-built from zero. I'd do this on my own, the problem is that I'm not an advanced user, and I still learning programming and coding at my degree, every help with this would be flawlessly.
had this same problem now for a while but cant sort it . so i got in toutch with samsung. the problem is i have no play store on my phone . had to send samsung reports on my phone . and this is the responce i got as pictured below
tazzuk2020 said:
had this same problem now for a while but cant sort it . so i got in toutch with samsung. the problem is i have no play store on my phone . had to send samsung reports on my phone . and this is the responce i got as pictured below
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Try using fdroid and aroura store
Nameless Foe said:
Try using fdroid and aroura store
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yeah thats fine but i still want to know what the issue is
tazzuk2020 said:
yeah thats fine but i still want to know what the issue is
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Tbh, im not sure about whats going on there... I have personally never seen that before. Hopefully someone will stumble across and have the answer. Good Luck!
Nameless Foe said:
Tbh, im not sure about whats going on there... I have personally never seen that before. Hopefully someone will stumble across and have the answer. Good Luck!
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Ok thanks anyway
Someone here knows about this but not me. Couldn't find much about it;
App installation | Knox SDK
Samsung tech support sucks.
Sounds like a Knox issue. Somethings not configured correctly or got corrupted.
Did Playstore ever work?
Is the phone a carrier one? Carrier tech support can be much better than Samsung's if you get a knowledgeable tech.
Try deleting your Goggle account(s), full nuke them, then recreate your primary account.
Clear Playstore and Goggle Play Services app data.
Do not have any disabled or Firewall blocked, Android, Google apks for now.
Reboot and clear system cache on the boot menu (NOT a hard reset!).
Try again, reboot if it fails.
Make sure the Goggle account is working correctly; trying using gmail.
Reboots are generally needed after you correct the issue for Playstore, it's a pain.
You can try a hard reboot (NOT reset!) but doubt this will help.
A hard reset (factory reset) may get it but it could reoccur so try to find the root cause.
If it's a none stock configuration or rooted phone you'll need advance help from XDA members who play with these issues for fun, giggles and to learn new curse words. Lol, I haven't as yet... I already curse like a Nam Vet
If you don't find a solution bump this thread each day as needed. Be patient as their is a wealth of knowledge here within the site's members.
blackhawk said:
Someone here knows about this but not me. Couldn't find much about it;
App installation | Knox SDK
Samsung tech support sucks.
Sounds like a Knox issue. Somethings not configured correctly or got corrupted.
Did Playstore ever work?
Is the phone a carrier one? Carrier tech support can be much better than Samsung's if you get a knowledgeable tech.
Try deleting your Goggle account(s), full nuke them, then recreate your primary account.
Clear Playstore and Goggle Play Services app data.
Do not have any disabled or Firewall blocked, Android, Google apks for now.
Reboot and clear system cache on the boot menu (NOT a hard reset!).
Try again, reboot if it fails.
Make sure the Goggle account is working correctly; trying using gmail.
Reboots are generally needed after you correct the issue for Playstore, it's a pain.
You can try a hard reboot (NOT reset!) but doubt this will help.
A hard reset (factory reset) may get it but it could reoccur so try to find the root cause.
If it's a none stock configuration or rooted phone you'll need advance help from XDA members who play with these issues for fun, giggles and to learn new curse words. Lol, I haven't as yet... I already curse like a Nam Vet
If you don't find a solution bump this thread each day as needed. Be patient as their is a wealth of knowledge here within the site's members.
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The phone is not rooted. I’m not getting options to factory reset . I’m not really clued up very much thf
tazzuk2020 said:
The phone is not rooted. I’m not getting options to factory reset . I’m not really clued up very much thf
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Try what I suggested. Recreating your Google account will most likely fix it. Learn by doing.
Play with it. The stock Android OS are pretty much impossible to damage short of bad 3rd party apps. The more you play with it, the more you learn. Make sure all your critical data is completely backed up*; be prepared for a reload at any time to prevent data loss.
If you need to download apps from Playstore now and have a device that can connect to Playstore do this. Install the apps you want on that device then use ApkExport to copy those apps then transfer and install on the troubled device
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com
Google how to bring up the boot menu on your model. The clear system cache option is found there; it can cure many erratic behavior issues.
The hard reboot is a different key sequence, Google for that model.
Do not do a factory reset until you exhaust all other solutions if the load is still fresh and no viruses are present otherwise it's a waste of time.
If you feel you have no other solutions you can use it, but if it doesn't fix it or it reoccurs you'll be right back where you started.
Contact your carrier tech support, ask to talk to advanced tech support, escalate your case if need be. They will likely be more helpful than Samsung. Remember a tech that tells you nothing but to do a factory reset isn't giving you tech support. It's the easiest solution for them, not you!!!
Note: if it's an old OS load by all means punch in a fresh copy though; after a year or so, or any major firmware update a factory reload is good practice.
*back up to SD card if you have one and/or your PC. Back that PC copy up on at least one stand alone hdd. Develop a complete back up plan before you need it.
blackhawk said:
Try what I suggested. Recreating your Google account will most likely fix it. Learn by doing.
Play with it. The stock Android OS are pretty much impossible to damage short of bad 3rd party apps. The more you play with it, the more you learn. Make sure all your critical data is completely backed up*; be prepared for a reload at any time to prevent data loss.
If you need to download apps from Playstore now and have a device that can connect to Playstore do this. Install the apps you want on that device then use ApkExport to copy those apps then transfer and install on the troubled device
APK Export (Backup & Share) - Apps on Google Play
Manage and extract your apps.
play.google.com
Google how to bring up the boot menu on your model. The clear system cache option is found there; it can cure many erratic behavior issues.
The hard reboot is a different key sequence, Google for that model.
Do not do a factory reset until you exhaust all other solutions if the load is still fresh and no viruses are present otherwise it's a waste of time.
If you feel you have no other solutions you can use it, but if it doesn't fix it or it reoccurs you'll be right back where you started.
Contact your carrier tech support, ask to talk to advanced tech support, escalate your case if need be. They will likely be more helpful than Samsung. Remember a tech that tells you nothing but to do a factory reset isn't giving you tech support. It's the easiest solution for them, not you!!!
Note: if it's an old OS load by all means punch in a fresh copy though; after a year or so, or any major firmware update a factory reload is good practice.
*back up to SD card if you have one and/or your PC. Back that PC copy up on at least one stand alone hdd. Develop a complete back up plan before you need it.
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i cleared system cache. done a hard reboot. still the same . cant even find the option to do a factory reset. im not worried about backing phone up. the phone is a samsung a51. i have got another firmware downloading as we talk im not convinced its going to sort the problem
tazzuk2020 said:
i cleared system cache. done a hard reboot. still the same . cant even find the option to do a factory reset. im not worried about backing phone up. the phone is a samsung a51. i have got another firmware downloading as we talk im not convinced its going to sort the problem
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Google it for that model. It's should be on the boot menu though. Also in settings as well.
I don't know what to say. This isn't that hard... small steps first.
I was completely PC illiterate 16 years ago. Was building up custom machines within the first year and probably crashed 50 or more XP loads, lol.
I was completely Android illiterate 6 years ago.
I'm 63 yo...
I have done little coding but you need to acquire a certain level of wherewithal to use PCs/Androids well, to keep them and your data secure.
You learn by doing and the Android OS is far easier to learn than XP or XPx64.
If you don't immerse yourself in it you will not learn.
It's fun to play with.
Explore it, play with it... you can't cause any permanent harm to a stock Android. You will occasionally need to undo a setting(s) change you made that may soak up a lot of time tracking it down but that's how you learn.
Go through all the settings and learn what they do.
Turn on Developer Options, play with it.
Google for the answers as your questions arise.
I'm constantly learning by doing that not just for Androids but a broad range of topics.
Lol, the internet is a whole pseudo library at your fingertips. Pretty cool.
blackhawk said:
Google it for that model. It's should be on the boot menu though. Also in settings as well.
I don't know what to say. This isn't that hard... small steps first.
I was completely PC illiterate 16 years ago. Was building up custom machines within the first year and probably crashed 50 or more XP loads, lol.
I was completely Android illiterate 6 years ago.
I'm 63 yo...
I have done little coding but you need to acquire a certain level of wherewithal to use PCs/Androids well, to keep them and your data secure.
You learn by doing and the Android OS is far easier to learn than XP or XPx64.
If you don't immerse yourself in it you will not learn.
It's fun to play with.
Explore it, play with it... you can't cause any permanent harm to a stock Android. You will occasionally need to undo a setting(s) change you made that may soak up a lot of time tracking it down but that's how you learn.
Go through all the settings and learn what they do.
Turn on Developer Options, play with it.
Google for the answers as your questions arise.
I'm constantly learning by doing that not just for Androids but a broad range of topics.
Lol, the internet is a whole pseudo library at your fingertips. Pretty cool.
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No factory reset on boot menu. And nowhere to be seen on phone. I even typed it in to search bar on phone . Maybe this is all linked. Only option I have is to reinstall the firmware I have got downloading but that won’t be finished for a few hours
You should be able to factory reset from recovery. Google how to boot to recovery for your device
xunholyx said:
You should be able to factory reset from recovery. Google how to boot to recovery for your device
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Nothing from boot menu.
tazzuk2020 said:
Nothing from boot menu.View attachment 5212005
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Part of the reason I left Samsung years ago. They do stuff different than any other OEM. You can't even use fastboot commands ffs
xunholyx said:
Part of the reason I left Samsung years ago. They do stuff different than any other OEM. You can't even use fastboot commands ffs
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i got a feeling its to do with knox. is there anything i can do about this . i brought the phone 2nd hand. the phone works perfect apart from play store