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M8 Lollipop Nightmare

Hey all,
I just wanted to give everyone a heads up about the lollipop update that just got to our Verizon variants of the One M8. My phone is completely stock, has never been rooted or s-off. I got the lollipop OTA update yesterday and after 45 mins of installing I couldn't wait to see how lollipop would improve my user experience on my phone. Short answer: it didn't AT ALL. The long answer is written out below.
1. Notifications
I don't really like the lollipop update to the notifications bar (1 swipe for notifications, 2 for settings) but its really just personal preference. However, with the update, you can no longer check your notifications directly from the lockscreen. You can't even see the icons of the new notifications at the top without unlocking your phone.
2. Lock Screen
Lock screen widgets are gone with the update. You also no longer have the option of swiping to the left for BlinkFeed, now its just a straight unlock that brings you to the page you last had open. No way to get to the homescreen directly like earlier. Now what the update did that really pisses me off is that you can no longer control your music from the lockscreen. With KitKat, you could skip tracks, and pause the song directly from the lockscreen. Now with the update you can't do any of those. You can't even swipe down from the lockscreen to see the media playing. Literally all you get is the album image of the song playing on your lockscreen. Yeah, just the image, you don't even get to see the name of the song playing.
3. Longer Boot Time
The boot time is longer now. Also once I get past the HTC and Verizon logo's while booting I get a dialogue box that says "Android is upgrading" before it goes to my homescreen. I'm not sure if this the case with everyone but it has happened to me everytime I reboot.
4. Just general unpleasantness
Recent apps takes longer to show all apps (I use grid view). Its quite minor and only noticeable if you compare it with a phone on KitKat but its still annoying. The Google Play Services update was also really annoying and it made my phone hang while it updated. The update also removed the World Clock Globe feature which was kinda cool, especially when I traveled. Again this is minor, but the update should improve the user experience not remove existing features.
Anyways, this is just my take on the lollipop update and it could be different for everyone. I, for one, am seriously considering downgrading back to KitKat (if its possible yet). I really hate it when an update takes my device in the backwards direction.
What did you guys think of the update?

I haven't had any issues with Lollipop on my M8. I've been running Lollipop on my Nexus 7 for months, so I'm already used to it. After getting familiar with it, I prefer it to KK. The slow boot time is probably due to the fact you has "fast boot" enabled on the previous version of Android. HTC has removed it from Lollipop.

UPDATE:
Going to Sound & Notification > When Device is Locked > Show all notifications fixes the notification grievances that I had listed.
just_lou,
I don't think FastBoot is the issue. I had it disabled when I was running KitKat. The issue is the dialogue box of "Android is Upgrading" that still shows up (I just rebooted to see if it shows and it did). I'm not sure if this will go away after a while or not.

tmtmaats said:
UPDATE:
Going to Sound & Notification > When Device is Locked > Show all notifications fixes the notification grievances that I had listed.
just_lou,
I don't think FastBoot is the issue. I had it disabled when I was running KitKat. The issue is the dialogue box of "Android is Upgrading" that still shows up (I just rebooted to see if it shows and it did). I'm not sure if this will go away after a while or not.
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If you are showing this repeated it means you either have an app installed that isn't art capable or your cache is corrupt. Backup and factory reset. You should not see that message on every boot.

Still think 4.4.4 is wayyyyy smoother than 5.0. Visually.... 5.0 is nice but its only a few you touches. I'm not impressed. Waste of an update. I'm on 5.0 ROMs which help but I miss my 4.4.4 snappiness lol.

dottat said:
If you are showing this repeated it means you either have an app installed that isn't art capable or your cache is corrupt. Backup and factory reset. You should not see that message on every boot.
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ok I thought it shouldn't appear every time. so I went ahead and factory reset my phone after checking to make sure a backup was present. the most recent backup was about an hour before I updated to Lollipop, so I thought it would be fine in terms of having all the essential data. I used HTC Backup for the process.
Now after the reset, HTC backup can't find the backup when I click "Restore from cloud". All I see is "none" under the "Restore from Backup" option. Now I know for a fact that the backup file is saved on the cloud, I used Google Drive.
Is the phone unable to read that backup because it was done when the phone was running KitKat? If so, then begins the long task of restoring everything one by one.....

tmtmaats said:
ok I thought it shouldn't appear every time. so I went ahead and factory reset my phone after checking to make sure a backup was present. the most recent backup was about an hour before I updated to Lollipop, so I thought it would be fine in terms of having all the essential data. I used HTC Backup for the process.
Now after the reset, HTC backup can't find the backup when I click "Restore from cloud". All I see is "none" under the "Restore from Backup" option. Now I know for a fact that the backup file is saved on the cloud, I used Google Drive.
Is the phone unable to read that backup because it was done when the phone was running KitKat? If so, then begins the long task of restoring everything one by one.....
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No that should not be an issue. I have used it forward and backwards. Open play and then go back to HTC backup. Possible it's not looking in your Google account at all yet.

dottat said:
No that should not be an issue. I have used it forward and backwards. Open play and then go back to HTC backup. Possible it's not looking in your Google account at all yet.
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I opened the Play Store and tried again. Backup still didn't show up. Then I deleted all the accounts on the phone and re-logged in. Still didn't show up. I went ahead and did another factory reset, reinstalled the HTC backup apk, logged in and opened the play store and tried to restore again. HTC backup still didn't find my backup. Then I double checked to make sure that I was using the right account with which I had done the backup. After confirming that, I tried once again deleting all accounts and signing in again and still nothing.
Finally, I tried to sync the account manually and then try. Still nothing.
I have used HTC backup in the past, and it worked fine to restore everything. Just this time it isn't.
Is there anything else I can try?

You know you can swipe right when locked and screen off to get blinkfeed right? Just have to decide now before you turn on the screen if you are planning to go to blinkfeed I guess.
I get my audio controls for Spotify on the lock screen too... With controls to play, pause, next. Just double tap the screen.
The grid recent apps seems to take longer because it's multiple screens of recent apps.
Just a quick tip but you can access your pulldown quick settings menu with the double finger down swipe when the screen is on at the lock screen. Useful for switching to silent or airplane mode without unlocking or using the volume hardware rocker.
That being said, my battery life isn't so great anymore and my GPS is skewed now (I'm always about 30-45 degrees of in the direction I'm facing).

Instead of using that crap "blinkfeed" launcher use the Google Launcher form the play store.

[BUG][6.0.1 Stock]Home Button Ignored and Other Perfidious Symptoms

This mean bug hit us twice, so that it might be helpful do document it in order to help other persons with the same problems.
Symptoms:
Home button does no longer work.
Notifications and notification pulldown menu do not work (as consequence, data transfer via USB cable is impossible).
Quick settings do not work.
Factory reset does not work.
Developer mode cannot be enabled (as a consequence, no adb connection possible).
Automatic orientation disabled after every reboot.
Mobile data enabled (!) after every reboot (very funny if you pay 0,23 EUR per megabyte and do not notice...)
When changing volume using the physical keys, the device sometimes reboots.
This list is not necessarily complete, as there might be more symptoms.
According to various investigations (see links below) the system thinks that the Setup Wizard is still running. This bug presumably was introduced with some Android version (Oct 2015), came to the Moto G, and when the bug was removed, the Moto G did not get the corrected OS version.
When does the problem appear?
There are strong indications that the problem always occurs whenever the device runs out of (flash) memory. Note that our device did not have an SD when the problem appeared.
How can one heal the device?
There have been some recommendations how to repair the phone (see links below):
Change user
Run the SetupWizardTestActivity via adb
Run some additional command (see below) via adb.
Run the SetupWizardTestActivity via Nova Launcher.
Factory reset via Recovery.
What did really help?
In fact all methods 1 .. 4 failed, because no adb connection could be established (see Topic 5. of the symptoms), and the Setup Wizard got to an endless loop when I started it via Nova Launcher. So finally I used the Recovery system to reset the device.
If anybody ran into the same trap or has a better solution, please tell!
See also:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/moto-g3-properly-t3449495
http://forum.xda-developers.com/2015-moto-g/help/status-notification-bar-pull-t3435441
http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...me-button-not-working-many-more-problems.html
http://forums.androidcentral.com/mo...sing-huge-problems-moto-x-2nd-gen-2014-a.html
http://infomash.net/home-button-not-working-after-updating-to-android-marshmallow/
How to reset the Moto G

Reflash stock image via fastboot... if it continues to fail and you followed all instructions EXACTLY, your handset is defective, get it repaired or replace it.
The "setup wizard" bug is a known, but extremely rare, issue... but the symptoms are not the same as what you are experiencing. Home/Back/Recent buttons do not work -AND- the notification pull down do not work, in every case reported simply re-running setup wizard corrects the issue.

symptoms same , root reason may differ
Tenebrous sound thy words, and partially enigmatic is their meaning.
In fact:
- I forgot to mention the non-working notification pulldown menu, so I added this in post #1.
- Thus the noticed symptoms exactly match those described in the links I provided.
- However, the root reason might subtly differ, and, additionally, all proposed therapies except factory reset failed in our case.
- It might help to re-flash the stock or flash an alternative image to cure the device, but it was not necessary in our case, so it's not really a better solution.
I found this Lenovo Moto G3 forum dealing with the same problem:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-G...cations-and-lock-screen-not-work/td-p/3255406
Post #9 mentions "my storage was running out".
Here is another one, for a slightly different device:
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/MOTO-X...on-notifications-lock-screen-not/td-p/3354948

hey to chime in, I've got the same situatrion as of a few days ago on my Motorola Droid Maxx 2. WISH I could find a root exploit for this damned thing. I hate dealing with issues on it. Who has time for this garbage? I plan to do a factory reset (or try while expecting a failure as noted in original post here.)
Thanks for documenting your issue Ahkah as it at least has helped me feel OK about myself here. Excellent choice of wording. To the other poster, why do you speak so authoritatively to say that if _____, phone is defective? That's annoying and not true unless somehow here at android-is-still-interesting.com "defective phone" means "I dont know what happened."
What I have in common to your described condition:
- ran "low" on storage according to pop up.
- used some feature offering to "clean" hard disk or whatever. This may have been in FX file browser or else a native android feature or else a motorola app feature. Unfortunately dont recall. One of the few options it gave was to clear cache of all apps. Seemed risky to me but I hit it any way. This may have been the root cause.
- notification pull down reads only "no notifications."
- circle and square softkeys do nothing but give the visual feedback or sometimes vibration feedback that acknowledges the button press.
- pulling down from top of screen while bnotification area is already pulled down does nothing whereas normally it would open quick actions.
- searching /system for "wizard" comes back with a lot of results for apks, all of which do nothing, throw error, or install more of themselves.
- clicking developer options tells me that dev options are not available for this user. As far as I can tell there are no other users on my phone.
- clicking build number or whichever item in about phone multiple times to enable dev options does nothing.
- volume buttons to act funky and while fiddling with the phone that was one of the few things i was doing. simultaneously the phone was repeatedly rebooting. maybe correlated but i dont know i was messing with everything i knew to try.
Additional observations:
- phone takes a long time to boot up on some power off/ power ons.
- phone largely works if i could somehow ignore all the above.
- phone sometimes reboots mid-boot animation
- all above is observed after freeing up 3 gb on internal memory and i've had multiple gb free on sd card throughout issue.
I hate you motorola. I hate you google. I hate you verizon. I hate you CIA and NSA. I hate you United States. I hate you capitalism. I hate you imperialism. I hate you western world. I hate you ideology. I hate you technology. I DONT EVEN WANT A PHONE and this is how i get to spend an hour today.

Samsung Interface Not Updating

All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.

BUMP

try disabling battery optimization for those apps.

It seems that you have several bugs and if they all start happening after you have installed the latest update, then expect a patch coming soon.

MINTED7 said:
try disabling battery optimization for those apps.
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I have actually done that. Found very limited success. I'm also finding very few results on this topic. Surely it's not just me though.
And I'm dreading the idea of a hard reset as I have many things on my phones, not all of which is sync'd to the cloud so it's a task to back things up appropriate. Specifically regarding "encrypted" apps like my password keeper app etc.
It would be great if there was a software application that allowed you to backup whatever is necessary to not lose data, then wipe the phone and instead of just simply restoring the full phone (which is likely to create the same problem one had before the hard reset), you could simply dump back in app data as needed. It would also help diagnose if the problem lies in a specific app's data.

High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.

[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.

Samsung Interface Not Updating

All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.

Samsung smart switch works wonders, the only thing that doesn't restore is passwords, you have to have and external SD card for it to work, or plug it in to a computer

talonpetty said:
All,
First time poster, frequent visitor of XDA Forums. I've come across an odd issue that I don't know how to solve and I'm hoping some of you smarter than me folks can get me squared away.
I have a Galaxy S8+ from AT&T running Android 7.0 and Samsung Experience 8.1.
Problem:
I've recently noticed a delay or completely non-updating interface on my phone. It updates on occasion, but I can't determine what triggers an update. For example, I will pick up my phone from the desk and when I press the power button it shows the accurate time. When I unlock the device, the sense flip clock I use on the main home screen shows an earlier time (could be 30 minutes... could be a few hours). I don't believe it's just the Sense app because I noticed this issue where I checked a facebook messenger app that came and and when I closed the app, it still showed I had 1 notification. I went back in thinking I had another new message, but I didn't. So it was still hanging on to the notification. It happened a couple times with a text message as well. Most importantly, my calendar doesn't alert me prior to an appointment either, even though it's showing in my calendar and an alert is active. If I save an event, and exit, I can normally see the event appear on the on widget immediately as well... but that hasn't been happening. I have to press the widget to open it and confirm it is there (which it always is). Eventually it refreshes and shows up. But that delay is likely the reason why I'm not getting my alerts.
All of this did seem to happen after a recent update Samsung/AT&T pushed out but I don't know for sure. I tried clearing the cache from the boot menu but it doesn't seem there is wide success with that.
And perhaps I'm just not a good enough user, but everything isn't all backed up in the cloud so doing the factory reset to me is always a fairly large task as I have many things to manually transfer out and then back in. Not sure if there are great tools that help with this on a stock phone.
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Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple interfaces.

norbarb said:
Go to settings and check if your time is setup to adjust automatically.
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That is not the issue. As mentioned, it's not just the clock it's multiple apps/interfaces.

High level overview of issues...
I have the Ring Doorbell app. I get notifications after "live". Could be 5 minutes, could be 1 hour... or possibly not at all. I have the app setup on my wife's iPhone and she gets them immediately. If I restart the phone, I will get notified right away (it's like it runs the app again and then I get the notification). Keep in mind, this is AFTER i disabled the battery optimization feature for the Ring app.
I also notice it occasionally with texting. I won't have any text notification in the notification panel, nor will my messaging icon have a little red circle indicating a message is there. But if I open the app, a specification conversation will have a red circle indicating a new text is unread.
All of this is leading me to believe the Samsung UI itself is not updating and therefore notifications that actually have arrived (from whatever app), are not displaying because of the UI and not because of their own delay.
Because of this concern I have turned off battery optimization for "System UI", "Themes", and "TouchWiz Home". I have not seen any change however.

[Solved]
I was able to determine by various other threads around the web (thought for sure I'd find it here, but I didn't) that the culprit might be the Google app. Supposedly it was fixed in some prior release, but it's not on my Galaxy S8+ w/ AT&T.
Once I disabled the Google app all the odd issues with notifications and clock interfaces and app icons not updating went away. The downside to disabling it is that I lose the Google Assistant functionality which stinks but otherwise there is no impact to using the phone. I re-enabled it at a later date and it worked fine for a few days and then started acting up again. Once I disabled it, the problems all disappeared. Clearly Google app is to blame.

Is my phone on the way out??

Hi All,
I've had the phone about 8 months, UK model.
About 2 months ago, when scrolling in Wikipedia pages on Chrome browser, the display would alternate between normal and blue light (eye comfort). It still does occasionally.
From a few weeks ago, the keyboard sometimes take about 10s to appear.
A few days ago when on voice call from the phone other person can't hear me but I can them while voice call on Whatsapp is fine both ways. Restarting phone seems to solved it for now.
Then yesterday while trying to access settings from either the home screen or app drawer, it fails but you can see its attempting to as you see the settings screen momentarily then a message comes up saying settings failed to start several times and whether to restore by clearing history. Doing that doesn't work. The only way that I can is to touch and hold the settings icon till the search option comes up and then type the particular setting I want.
Before I do anything to fix this, are these symptoms an indication the phone is on the way to a complete breakdown? Would it be a software problem and I suppose the 1st step to fix is factory reset.
Has anyone experience this on their phone?

Reset the phone to factory settings

weqr said:
Hi All,
I've had the phone about 8 months, UK model.
About 2 months ago, when scrolling in Wikipedia pages on Chrome browser, the display would alternate between normal and blue light (eye comfort). It still does occasionally.
From a few weeks ago, the keyboard sometimes take about 10s to appear.
A few days ago when on voice call from the phone other person can't hear me but I can them while voice call on Whatsapp is fine both ways. Restarting phone seems to solved it for now.
Then yesterday while trying to access settings from either the home screen or app drawer, it fails but you can see its attempting to as you see the settings screen momentarily then a message comes up saying settings failed to start several times and whether to restore by clearing history. Doing that doesn't work. The only way that I can is to touch and hold the settings icon till the search option comes up and then type the particular setting I want.
Before I do anything to fix this, are these symptoms an indication the phone is on the way to a complete breakdown? Would it be a software problem and I suppose the 1st step to fix is factory reset.
Has anyone experience this on their phone?
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Unfortunately it's the Oppo software that causes these issues... We hope we can unlock the bootloader soon and flash custom roms to remedy these problems since Oppo are just incompetent.
Chrome colour shift is fixed by typing into your chrome address bar and type: "chrome://flags" then search "Dynamic Color Gamut" and set it to disabled (or it was enabled, I forget since I didn't have the issue myself)
Oppo uses the wrong microphone on third party apps like whatsapp, signal, instagram etc. and we have to wait for an update to fix that. (Issue has been posted here before)
The rest of the issues you described sound like some software instability caused by the Android 11 update. You should save your data and do a factory reset.
If the issues persist after the reset and you didn't install any dodgy apps or modified the software using adb then consider sending the phone in for repair.

OK thanks for replies. So factory reset then...