LG VR 360 Headset - Anyone have it ? - LG G5 Accessories

Does anyone have the production/release version of the headset, i have seen they are in stock at a couple of places here in the UK (Handtek/Mobilefun) and am debating pressing the trigger.
The reviews all seem to be from last month and perhaps pre production software/hardware ?
Main thing i want to know is about lag and screen blur (i don't care about the light bleed etc) ?
Thanks in advance !

I just received my copy. I could live with the light shinning through from the bottom of the glasses but I can't understand why there is no Google cardboard support, no vr app from the playstore works either. You can only watch some clips and your pictures, nothing else. I'm thinking about sending it back straight away. Unbelievable that they ask 300 euros for this.
EDIT: Still searching for a solution to start other vr apps... but to answer your questions: Blur is there, if you move quickly it will quickly blur out, but ifs easy to focus again by not moving your head too much. About the lag, i couldn't see any lag, if you move your head, the picture moves with it. Please do not take my word too seriously, this is my first vr equipment and therefore i have no experience with this kind of things.
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Light bleed isn't as extreme as most of the reviewers have stated, however the blur is quite obvious, especially if you actually move around a lot. Other than that the only issue I had is no working 3rd party VR apps, which sucks.

Yes I have it and agree light bleed isn't extreme . Here is my review
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2016/05/04/lg-g5-friends-lg-360-vr-review/

My two cents review..
I bought mine in the US from B&H photovideo. The field of view is smaller than the gear vr IMO. Pixel quality seems a little better to me on the LG360VR but the optics begin to blur a tiny bit toward the edges. The game selection is totally non-existent except the one app I happened upon during a google search.
It's called "battle lg360vr" in the play store. Its not free but is less than $2.00. For anyone who decides to buy it, you have to start it from within the play store because it won't show up in the app drawer nor in the vr manager. Once I ran that app I couldn't switch back to the 360 vr manager app until I disconnected and reconnected the headset.
I'm hopeful more content will pop up for this headset in the next few months. Otherwise I don't think the current lineup of content is worth the cost.
Overall I prefer the LG360VR form factor over the gear vr. In spite of the Gear VR feeling more immersive and having many games to choose from I couldn't use it for long without getting major eye fatigue. It was also uncomfortable to wear for very long hurting the bridge of my nose and fogged up too easily.
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Oh and yes there is some blurring but it was more noticeable in the main vr manager menu and surprisingly less noticeable during playing the battle vr game.
FWIW, I think the blur issue might be more of a slow response time of the LCD panels rather than lag between the phone and the headset.
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arie001 said:
Oh and yes there is some blurring but it was more noticeable in the main vr manager menu and surprisingly less noticeable during playing the battle vr game.
FWIW, I think the blur issue might be more of a slow response time of the LCD panels rather than lag between the phone and the headset.
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I have a set, and I must say I really enjoy them, having spent a lot of time with the Gear VR before. These are very light and comfortable, image quality is great, almost no noticeable screen door effect and as soon as there are more vr content these googles will be a great thing to have.
My only real issue is that i have not been able to find a cable that allows me to charge the phone, and have the headset connected, at the same time. This means that the headset is a little hard for it's basic use case (for me), watching movies while travelling. My phone battery is nearly dead after watching 30-40 mins of a movie, and this is not enough time to charge the second battery in the charger that came with the spare-battery set.
Anyone that have any ideas on where to get a cable that would allow me to both charge the phone, and use the head set at the same time?

Huge oversight from LG for not supporting Cardboard from the beginning. Hope they'll update it soon!

Mind blowing that they dont support cardboard apps

Does anyone recommend a suitable chinese VR set for LG G5?

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I wouldn't use the term "revolutionary", as this comes way after the Oculus, Morpheus and even Cardboard. But I will say I am highly interested and welcome the idea with open arms. I have always joked that the Google Cardboard (which I own, and am very happy with my tiny experience) is the Poor Man's Oculus Rift. Now I feel like the Gear VR is the Rich Man's Google Cardboard, lol. The only thing that is pissing me off, is that I would take the Galaxy Note Edge over the Note 4, and it seems like Gear VR will work exclusively ONLY on the Note 4...not the edge...
I'm really hoping they change their mind (They would gain a lot more to allow Gear VR to work with the likes of the Note 3, Galaxy S4, S5, and S6)
I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
xda rocks said:
I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
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the 20$ Google Cardboard...? lol
It'll get it on its way maybe
Surly the price of the head gear would be fairly low, since all the tech is in the phone.... i mean the device is all passive right o_0?
The Gear VR appears powered BY the Note 4(touchpad and back button), and the VR does not appear to have a charging/pass-through port. Would have been nice to watch a movie, play games, etc while lying in bed, and not have to worry about the phone going dead. I hope something is done to remedy this.
it's an interesting concept. unfortunately, I think it's more gimmickie than anything else. If it's cheap, it may be an interesting tinker toy with the phone.
Think big issue, it'll have a limited install base and thus limited third party developer support.
It's just a gimmick and I still fail to see the benefits of all that VR glasses ? I mean I've got headaches from just putting that 3d Glasses a few years ago and now a full helmet ummm nope.
This site says $199 but I dont know if this site is reputable or where they got the price
http://venturebeat.com/2014/09/05/s...r-headset-will-cost-199-phablet-not-included/
I wonder how would 3D movies look on it. The resolution is excellent for this but I wonder how distorted the image will be? Will it look like a cinema screen?
EDIT: From this article - http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ions-Samsung-Gear-VR/articleshow/41699899.cms - it seems to be disapointing: "However, there is a problem, and a major one at that. Gear VR shows very pixilated videos, even though the Note 4's screen has QHD resolution. The likely reason is that Gear VR's lenses focus on only a small portion of the screen to play the video and then magnify it up this portion only, thus resulting in a pixilated display."
The Gear VR isn't fully passive, looks to have extra Accelerator, Gyrometer, Magnetic and Proximity sensors for movement detection. I have an Oculus DK2 and I'm excited to try this device. As far as watching 3D video, that is not really what "VR" headsets are designed for. You would need some different lenses and a much higher resolution screen. Think about the experience like sticking your head in a dome fish bowl. To display flat video you would only be using part of the screen and the view angle isn't ideal. Now if you have video shot with a dome cam, that is cool, you can look all around the world as the video plays. Or if the 3D video is shot in a way that compensates for the edges of the frame being out of view. The Oculus DK2 uses a stock Note 3 screen and I would image the retail version of the Oculus will use the Note 4's screen from a production and cost perspective.
When playing a game or demo in a full 3D environment the resolution issue starts to disappear, your 96 (or 120 on the rift) degree field of view effectively turns into a 360 degree field of view. A good example of this is stare directly as some text on your monitor, don't move your eyes and tell me how much of the rest of the monitor is in focus? It will be very little if your eyes stay perfectly still.
I think the deciding factor for this device to succeed is the motion tracking and then secondly content. If the motion tracking is poor, everyone will just puke and throw this in the trash.
I think Virtual Reality will be great on the Galaxy Gear VR, but one thing that I feel a lot of people are overlooking and what I'm concerned about is the cancer/brain damage users would eventually get years down the road from extended use.
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/cellphones
http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/brain-tumors-linked-to-cell-phones-study-suggests/
http://www.thewire.com/national/201...uld-actually-cause-brain-cancer-maybe/370818/
I know it's been a heated debate that extended use of cellphones can cause cancer, but think how much more we are prone to it by not only using our future Galaxy Note 4's for phone conversations, but also for the Galaxy Gear VR(just a few inches from our face). Anyone consider this ?
Don't get me wrong, I'm very excited for the Galaxy Gear VR, but since I also have a Playstation 4, I was thinking of just getting Sony's Virtual Reality Unit when it becomes available since the presence of a cellphone and its electromagnetic waves would be absent. Thoughts ?
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I don't think there is any device currently using their cell phones as a source to experience VR. Is there any such models doing it so? If Yes, I stand corrected.
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Here's an alternative to the gear vr and google cardboard that lands around the middle of the two in quality/functionality, but really can't be beat for the price. ...btw, the site is legit, I purchase stuff from them frequently.
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iZack187 said:
I wouldn't use the term "revolutionary", as this comes way after the Oculus, Morpheus and even Cardboard. But I will say I am highly interested and welcome the idea with open arms. I have always joked that the Google Cardboard (which I own, and am very happy with my tiny experience) is the Poor Man's Oculus Rift. Now I feel like the Gear VR is the Rich Man's Google Cardboard, lol. The only thing that is pissing me off, is that I would take the Galaxy Note Edge over the Note 4, and it seems like Gear VR will work exclusively ONLY on the Note 4...not the edge...
I'm really hoping they change their mind (They would gain a lot more to allow Gear VR to work with the likes of the Note 3, Galaxy S4, S5, and S6)
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I don't think that you are getting why it is only being released on the Note 4. The Oculus technology basically relies on turning pixels on and off instantaneously. If you turn right for instance the entire screen much be redrawn to a new image, continuously. So you need a screen especially, and a processor, which can handle that kind of requirement. The Note 4's screen is the best on the market to do that. You just wouldn't have the same experience at all with the S5 (not even getting into how it is smaller), or even the iphone6. The edge wouldn't work I am guessing because of the bottom (or top) of your screen bending and looking just plain odd when used in a screen for one of these.
Until other devices come up to snuff on the specs that matter to using an Oculus type device, the experience would not be the same. You would have an experience for sure, you have one with the $20 cardboard version. But it will not be the same.
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Here's an alternative to the gear vr and google cardboard that lands around the middle of the two in quality/functionality, but really can't be beat for the price. ...btw, the site is legit, I purchase stuff from them frequently.
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I can also vouch for FastTech. I have bought all of my eCig supplies from them for a couple years.
I don't believe the phone is close enough to your face to have ANY impact even if you had a mobile connection on all the time while in VR.
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I don't believe the phone is close enough to your face to have ANY impact even if you had a mobile connection on all the time while in VR.
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I hope that's the case. I guess I may be paranoid due to the cellphone waves coming from it since I'm sure I'd be wearing the Galaxy Gear VR for at least a good 30 minutes each session.
Just had to bump this thread. :good:

Tesco Hudl 2 tablet.

Ok, so i'm tempted to buy one of these as I have a bunch of vouchers which means i can buy it for £25 instead of £129.
I'm a little concerned about the lack of love of the original Hudl device in terms of custom roms and general hacking , and i kinda understand it since its a UK device. so i'm unsure to go for it because of this. Its an Intel Atom cpu so i would love it if it was able to be installed with windows 8.1/10 eventually.
Anyone else seen the device and have any thoughts on it?
http://www.tesco.com/direct/hudl2-8-wi-fi-tablet/454-7907.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=397-7926
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/tablets/391081/hands-on-tesco-hudl2-review
Looks like I've found the right place for my review
I tried posting this in a comment box on Engadget. Suffice to say, it did not fit! I thought there might be a modding forum for the hudl1 over here on xda but to my surprise there is not :-O slightly concerning. I don't understand why it being a British device would be an issue, we make great stuff!
Anyway here goes..
Had a good shot on the hudl2 today. Going in teaco today was like the opening scenes of the Lego movie. Hudl propaganda everywhere. Point of sale cardboards you expect. But I have to admit impressed with the kiosk they've set up. The branding is simple, and hey had all colours of hudl on display, it definitely lures you in. On top of tat, giving the big brother Lego-movir feel, all of the television displays are showing a hudl2 promo vids on loop. 'Were really pleased to announce...' Etc..
The demo units run in obviously a demo mode. Pristine, I think I might have been their first prodder. All the tabs were heleved in landscape view and the first Hong you notice therefore is how wide they look. If you've seen the nexus7, these seem like pretty much the same ratio. The demo mode has a display encouraging you to 'try it', which if you tap, takes you to the android home screen. Naturally it is maiden with blinkbox icons. The home screen to the left features tescos feed. Things like shopping offers, how to get started on blibkbox etc. You can hide then (they appear as cards), but they come back soon enough. The home screen one to the right of the main, is more blink box a centric with more direct links to movies and music etc.
You can choose to ditch blinkbox icons if you wish but long and short, you're not getting rid of these left and right home screens anytime soon. I had a good look through the options and settings, and nowhere did I see the option to remove ho.eacreens.
Neither was I able to enable developer option s, something to note.
Going into settings, apps, I attempted to close/stop any references to Tesco processes running to see if it was possible to 'de-teaco' the homeacreens. And sure, I was able to stop them. But returning to the home screen starts them again and back they appear, as if they never went away.
The homeacreen to.the left incurs the highest lag in all my experience using the tablet. As you scroll left, the background blurs, which is a nice aesthetic touch but I would hedge my bets that is what's causing the lag. As another person has reported, touching the app drawer brings up the app icons very promptly, with only a slight *very very slight* * delay. To the otaku, this will annoy them possibly, but to.most casual users who don't race around phones/tabs as they likely so on desktop PC's, this won't be a problem at all.
Similarly, launching apps was prompt, about th same as the initial 'pressing on app drawer' button.
It feels very much like a smartphone, with a. Bigger screen, which is what most ppl expect.
The screen. The screen is absolutely stand-out feature on this tab. The colours, to my taster are desaturated enough to look natural, I would estimate skin tones in videos would look very nice on this. Photos look absolutely lovely, and using the tab to tweak them with Google Photos was easy, fun and satisfying.
Play store..
Internet wasslow connection in this particular tescos but at least they're connected! A welcome change to a lot of stores/demos. Indeed, these tabs were 'box-fresh' I downloaded Flipboard, which flipped through lagfree, although I can't say 100% for sure about hr speed because the connection was so slow that images weren't displaying yet.
I downloaded flickr, a nice appfor viewing photos on nice screens and it looked wonderful with next to no.lag (aside the net connection ).
Feel in the hand. These things are naturally powered up and connected via mai s as well as a central stem from beneath the desk holding them up. So I wasn't able to feel how theysit in the hand vertically. But I was able to.hold it horizontally and that was indeed very comfy, the rubbery soft touch back is very nice and trippy too.
No accessories were available yet.
I can't comment on the sound, but the screen is just lovely. Again, to echo others, the viewing angles are not fantastic, but its respectably bright and crisp. No such 'cyan oven mode style' colour options in the settings though, if the look isn't to your preference.
This is my first time using an 8inch tablet, its a nice experience. However this like email in landscape could definitely so with a bit of a makeover (everything appears very large), like email for kids . (Gmail I'm talking about).
Goodgle Newsstand, this had had a recent update which makes it quite graphically intense, using the cards style material UI of upcoming Google Android L. Scrolling through the items incurred a bit of lag, I would put in on par with my galaxy S3 (running CyanogenMod 11l. As a news reading experience, this app has a lot of potential, but Aimo It would only be optimal under android L.
Browsing through the play store for music, movies and books requires a fair amount of close-up viewing it on a galaxy s3, not so here. The items on display are pleasant and text metainfo, like price, genre, year etc. Are nicely legible.
Browsing speed..
Now this is the only area where I was not particularly amazed with the hudl 2. I fired up theverge as its quite intense. The chrome.browser held most of the images in place, however a quick scroll from very top to very bottom of the site had images blinking out of view,, then re-appearing. Not a ram issue I don't think. I think (only suspect) this might be a limit of the atom CPU.
I did nothing more strenuous to he tablet, and apart from that, I would say it is very very serviceable. Especially for £129.
Were it not for this potential.nexus9 around the corner with rumoured android L, I would buy this immediately.
would it be possible to put the GEL launcher on this? and thanks for the in depth review^^^^^^^
nice hands-on. sort out the strange spelllings and wording and you could put that on a proper website.
i'll be getting mine tonight (cost me £25 on top of my clubcard vouchers which have been sitting doing nothing for years) so will give some feedback for what its worth. i'm totally wanting to run windows on it though. I can't get my head around why anyone would chose a (presumably more expensive) Intel x64 chipset over an ARM given that Android is optimised for ARM.
SkEvol said:
I tried posting this in a comment box on Engadget. Suffice to say, it did not fit! I thought there might be a modding forum for the hudl1 over here on xda but to my surprise there is not :-O slightly concerning. I don't understand why it being a British device would be an issue, we make great stuff!
Anyway here goes..
Had a good shot on the hudl2 today. Going in teaco today was like the opening scenes of the Lego movie. Hudl propaganda everywhere. Point of sale cardboards you expect. But I have to admit impressed with the kiosk they've set up. The branding is simple, and hey had all colours of hudl on display, it definitely lures you in. On top of tat, giving the big brother Lego-movir feel, all of the television displays are showing a hudl2 promo vids on loop. 'Were really pleased to announce...' Etc..
The demo units run in obviously a demo mode. Pristine, I think I might have been their first prodder. All the tabs were heleved in landscape view and the first Hong you notice therefore is how wide they look. If you've seen the nexus7, these seem like pretty much the same ratio. The demo mode has a display encouraging you to 'try it', which if you tap, takes you to the android home screen. Naturally it is maiden with blinkbox icons. The home screen to the left features tescos feed. Things like shopping offers, how to get started on blibkbox etc. You can hide then (they appear as cards), but they come back soon enough. The home screen one to the right of the main, is more blink box a centric with more direct links to movies and music etc.
You can choose to ditch blinkbox icons if you wish but long and short, you're not getting rid of these left and right home screens anytime soon. I had a good look through the options and settings, and nowhere did I see the option to remove ho.eacreens.
Neither was I able to enable developer option s, something to note.
Going into settings, apps, I attempted to close/stop any references to Tesco processes running to see if it was possible to 'de-teaco' the homeacreens. And sure, I was able to stop them. But returning to the home screen starts them again and back they appear, as if they never went away.
The homeacreen to.the left incurs the highest lag in all my experience using the tablet. As you scroll left, the background blurs, which is a nice aesthetic touch but I would hedge my bets that is what's causing the lag. As another person has reported, touching the app drawer brings up the app icons very promptly, with only a slight *very very slight* * delay. To the otaku, this will annoy them possibly, but to.most casual users who don't race around phones/tabs as they likely so on desktop PC's, this won't be a problem at all.
Similarly, launching apps was prompt, about th same as the initial 'pressing on app drawer' button.
It feels very much like a smartphone, with a. Bigger screen, which is what most ppl expect.
The screen. The screen is absolutely stand-out feature on this tab. The colours, to my taster are desaturated enough to look natural, I would estimate skin tones in videos would look very nice on this. Photos look absolutely lovely, and using the tab to tweak them with Google Photos was easy, fun and satisfying.
Play store..
Internet wasslow connection in this particular tescos but at least they're connected! A welcome change to a lot of stores/demos. Indeed, these tabs were 'box-fresh' I downloaded Flipboard, which flipped through lagfree, although I can't say 100% for sure about hr speed because the connection was so slow that images weren't displaying yet.
I downloaded flickr, a nice appfor viewing photos on nice screens and it looked wonderful with next to no.lag (aside the net connection ).
Feel in the hand. These things are naturally powered up and connected via mai s as well as a central stem from beneath the desk holding them up. So I wasn't able to feel how theysit in the hand vertically. But I was able to.hold it horizontally and that was indeed very comfy, the rubbery soft touch back is very nice and trippy too.
No accessories were available yet.
I can't comment on the sound, but the screen is just lovely. Again, to echo others, the viewing angles are not fantastic, but its respectably bright and crisp. No such 'cyan oven mode style' colour options in the settings though, if the look isn't to your preference.
This is my first time using an 8inch tablet, its a nice experience. However this like email in landscape could definitely so with a bit of a makeover (everything appears very large), like email for kids . (Gmail I'm talking about).
Goodgle Newsstand, this had had a recent update which makes it quite graphically intense, using the cards style material UI of upcoming Google Android L. Scrolling through the items incurred a bit of lag, I would put in on par with my galaxy S3 (running CyanogenMod 11l. As a news reading experience, this app has a lot of potential, but Aimo It would only be optimal under android L.
Browsing through the play store for music, movies and books requires a fair amount of close-up viewing it on a galaxy s3, not so here. The items on display are pleasant and text metainfo, like price, genre, year etc. Are nicely legible.
Browsing speed..
Now this is the only area where I was not particularly amazed with the hudl 2. I fired up theverge as its quite intense. The chrome.browser held most of the images in place, however a quick scroll from very top to very bottom of the site had images blinking out of view,, then re-appearing. Not a ram issue I don't think. I think (only suspect) this might be a limit of the atom CPU.
I did nothing more strenuous to he tablet, and apart from that, I would say it is very very serviceable. Especially for £129.
Were it not for this potential.nexus9 around the corner with rumoured android L, I would buy this immediately.
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Good review - and the web pages thing does seem to be an issue. I thought I would add a couple of points based on 24 hours of ownership of this device....
The first thing I noticed was how laggy the Tesco launcher was - not helped by the boat load of Tesco crapola on left screen. The first thing I did was put Nova on there and it was like night and day - zero lag. I disabled most of the Tesco apps and hid them in the launcher as well which basically left me with, essentially, a stock Android tablet. It also left no visible sign of Tesco on the tablet because Nova can get rid of the search bar (Tesco had moved their Tesco button up here instead of having it on the Navigation bar on Hudl1) The only gripe about performance would be that there is some lag with some live wallpapers.
I stuck Asphalt 8 and Modern Combat 5 on there and there no problems. Both games play really, really well. I also tested the touch responsiveness - an issue on Hudl 1 - by playing CounterSpy and Alone and it seems to be a lot better on Hudl 2. I have not really had a chance to test the speakers yet as I have mainly used it with headphones. I've also not had any issues with app incompatibility caused by the Intel processor yet. Internet speed seems great so far- even large games downloaded quickly both on home and work WiFi.
My biggest gripe is the 9gb of free space - 11 out of 16gb free should be the minimum. First thing I will do when I root it will be to get rid of some of bloat with Titanium.
Overall though - very impressed. As already mentioned, the screen is just fantastic. Huge improvement on the first one and a really, really decent device. For the money its a no-brainer.
Thanks for continuing the discussion! What you've said all sounds very positive!
Have you managed to root it? I note that there sadly didn't seem to be much support for custom rom'ing the hudl1. But those changes you made with the launcher sound like they took care of any lag, this is great!
One thing you did mention.. I thought i would ask you, for clarity.. When you said..
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Good review - and the web pages thing does seem to be an issue.
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--were you referring to your own experience with loading pages? Or were you just echoing the concern i had expressed in my review?
Also, to hear that games work well is also really great!
Took the plunge today used my staff discount didn't use any club card put the google launcher disabled everything other than child and my Tesco which I couldn't do. Tablet is really fast display and size and great feels better the nexus 7
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Thanks for continuing the discussion! What you've said all sounds very positive!
Have you managed to root it? I note that there sadly didn't seem to be much support for custom rom'ing the hudl1. But those changes you made with the launcher sound like they took care of any lag, this is great!
One thing you did mention.. I thought i would ask you, for clarity.. When you said..
--were you referring to your own experience with loading pages? Or were you just echoing the concern i had expressed in my review?
Also, to hear that games work well is also really great!
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I was more echoing your concerns tbh - noticed it crop up in at least a couple of "hands on" reviews and was wondering if it was an issue. I haven't especially noticed but I will try a few more content heavy web page and see what happens. I should apologise for the lack of clarity on my original reply as I haven't rooted it yet- I rooted the last one and ran exposed and gravity box which did compensate slightly for the lack of custom roms. There was a bit of interest in Hudl modding on Modaco last time, which was where I found the rooting info.
I think Rooting may take a while as this is an Intel Atom Bay trail Z3735D cpu. The Onda V975i has the same CPU and has been rooted so it may be possible to adapt it to work although it is running an older version of android which may raise other problems. Also I would not try any rooting method until a recovery ROM and method are available.
My Hudl 2 on order.
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Further From my previous post it appears that these Bay Trial tabs can have a Bios so It will be interesting to see how this tab matures. Windows Anyone!
vermillions said:
Further From my previous post it appears that these Bay Trial tabs can have a Bios so It will be interesting to see how this tab matures. Windows Anyone!
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Pretty cool to think that would be possible.
Windows has a 1000 uses, what would you choose to do? (just curious)
Do you think that Kings might have solution to rooting?
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Pretty cool to think that would be possible.
Windows has a 1000 uses, what would you choose to do? (just curious)
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I am the worst person with devices, I like to get them to do more than they were originally intended to do and to tinker and learn as much as poss, then I just end up never using them. But if a Dev overcomes all the obstacles in Boot and Bios and is able to roll all the drivers into a windows rom, I couldn't help myself I would have to test it.
Hudl2 Thread
How do we lobby the XDA Devs to open a section for the Hudl2?
Do we need to raise money to buy one to send it to a dev?
I'd quite like a recovery loader (at the bare minimum) to be able to back up the Hudl2, before asking for some kind dev to port a new Rom to it.
What can we do to make any of the above options happen?
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How do we lobby the XDA Devs to open a section for the Hudl2?
Do we need to raise money to buy one to send it to a dev?
I'd quite like a recovery loader (at the bare minimum) to be able to back up the Hudl2, before asking for some kind dev to port a new Rom to it.
What can we do to make any of the above options happen?
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I don't know the answer to any of your questions but I'd be willing to contribute £5 to the cost of finding out how to root it, in whatever form that takes.
Just out of interest has anyone tried Root Genius? it is made by the same people that made Shuame. If not working I suspect root will probably come from installing IntelAndroidDrvSetup and then a flash from Fastboot if we can get into Fastboot. But it will need someone with the correct knowledge to make the flashable update with the right parameters. All only a guess though.
Hi. Does anyone have an idea of how someone who's not in England can purchase one?
I'm very interest, seems great value for the money.
Thanks.
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Just out of interest has anyone tried Root Genius? it is made by the same people that made Shuame. If not working I suspect root will probably come from installing IntelAndroidDrvSetup and then a flash from Fastboot if we can get into Fastboot. But it will need someone with the correct knowledge to make the flashable update with the right parameters. All only a guess though.
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Someone over in MoDaCo had a similar thought and suggested this may work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681783
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Someone over in MoDaCo had a similar thought and suggested this may work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2681783
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Yes it might, my Hudl 2 is not yet delivered so I am unable to test at present. But I think it is worth a shot.
(kicking myself for ordering with delivery and not picking up from store.)
vermillions said:
If not working I suspect root will probably come from installing IntelAndroidDrvSetup and then a flash from Fastboot if we can get into Fastboot. But it will need someone with the correct knowledge to make the flashable update with the right parameters.
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I'm impressed! I have no idea now you had the thought process of thinking of doing that! I take it you must have quite a lot of experience with routing. I only ropted my s3 because i needed to. Sometimes i wish i had the insight to be able to suggest something like that. I usually work off of what faq or how-to suggests. I'm quite interested in why this device would require a different method because of it's cpu. Interesting to me.
Has anyone had success playing encoded videos e.g. x264 codec and similar? I used to get decent results using MXplayer or VLC beta on my previous tablet (a cheap Chinese version that should be worse than the Hudl2), but now I suspect that poor x86 support from those players is letting it down. I've downloaded the x86 codec for MX and played with the various performance options, but results range from good to appalling depending on the video, with stuttering or full crashes. I've also tried some other players that claimed x86 support, but no dice.
Any advice gratefully received, as I'm very happy with my Hudl2 apart from this.
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Review: BlitzWolf Virtual Reality Glasses (Cardboard)

Virtual Reality is becoming more and more easily accessible. These VR glasses make it super easy to be somewhere you’re not!
The box comes with: a microfiber cloth, the VR headset, and instructions.
VR was proven to be easy to achieve thanks to Google Cardboard, which is a VR headset made from basic materials like cardboard, magnets and rubber bands. This headset is an improved and sturdier version of Cardboard since it’s made out of hard plastic.
To use this product, you will need a smartphone. Any smartphone will do, but it is recommended that you use one that is up to date and can downloaded the latest apps, since that’s one of the most important things here.
Apps I tested: Google Cardboard app, Vrse, Google StreetView and Discovery VR.
Note: These apps don’t come with the product and must be downloaded separately, depending if you’re using Android or iOS. They’re all free, but you must understand that the apps are about half of what you need to make this work.
Thoughts on the product:
I’ve used Google Cardboard so I had previous knowledge of how VR works. You can say this is an upgrade from that since it feels like a real headset, it’s made from hard plastic, and it even has cushions for your face. There are two adjustable settings: one to adjust the focus of the glasses themselves and the second one is to set how far away your phone is from your eyes.
Let's start with customization and comfort. You can adjust pretty much every feature of the glasses. From the straps to the focal length and distance between the lenses. Truly a "one size fits all" product.
Regarding performance, the lenses are extremely clear. Once you have them on, you can adjust the lenses to get the best quality of image. If you haven't tried the VR experience before, you are in for a ride. The image quality is fantastic.
The way the the phone goes into the goggles is awkward at best. Yes, it will fit a phone up to 6" screen size, but not comfortably. I tried using it with my Nexus 6P and i struggled getting the phone in there (did not fit with the case on). When i finally got the phone in, the braces were touching the buttons causing it to not function properly. What i did is i took out the the bracket that is supposed to hold the phone in place and it works great now. little hack that made this very functional with my phone case on and everything.
Another negative aspect I found for these glasses is that if you are in a very bright location, some light does get in through the side slats. This does not happen often and not really a deal breaker for me. It is also something that can be fixed quite easily with tape.
Here is my list of pros and cons:
Pros:
- Adjustable.
- Comfortable on your face. Nice padding.
- Quality materials. Not too heavy.
- Works with most phones.
- Nice additional items such as stylus and microfiber cloth.
- Image quality. Great lenses.
- Easy to use and set up with your phone.
Negatives:
- Side slats allow a bit of light in.
- No way of interacting with touch screen when phone is in the VR goggles (google cardboard Star wars edition had something to touch the screen). would really like if i didn't have to take the phone out of the goggles every time i wanted to change what i am doing
- Fitting larger phones (nexus 6P, LG V10) are awkward
See pictures for details (will post pictures when i get home from work)
I received this at a discount for my review, but my review is completely honest in what is stated.
Please let me know if you have any questions guys. I am more than happy to answer them.
The Glasses can be purchased here:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AJSKIDG?redirect=true&ref_=cm_cr_ryp_prd_ttl_sol_0
Thanks for the review. I am very interested in VR I have no experience with it and just ordered my first VR headset today. However I went with the freefly VR (about 85 bucks). I'll report back on my impressions. Although a bit more costly I have read a lot of good things about them.
Tfast500 said:
Thanks for the review. I am very interested in VR I have no experience with it and just ordered my first VR headset today. However I went with the freefly VR (about 85 bucks). I'll report back on my impressions. Although a bit more costly I have read a lot of good things about them.
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I am in no way affiliated with blitzwolf, but the freefly vr looks like just a more expensive version that ultimately does the same thing. Neither of the goggles have additional sensors in them the way the gear vr or oculus do. I'd save about $50 and order the blitz vr (or any of the ones that look identical on Amazon)
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steveo17 said:
I am in no way affiliated with blitzwolf, but the freefly vr looks like just a more expensive version that ultimately does the same thing. Neither of the goggles have additional sensors in them the way the gear vr or oculus do. I'd save about $50 and order the blitz vr (or any of the ones that look identical on Amazon)
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I totally get what you are saying and I honestly debated spending this much... vs something 1/3 the price, I was also looking at the vrbox v2 or the blitz vr; However, I have read many good reviews about users already owning other vr headsets and still think the freefly is worth the extra cost. Supposedly it has 120 FOV which is more than the gear vr and any other phone vr headset.
I will be receiving this tomorrow so if i am not totally impressed ill get something cheaper or nothing at all.
Tfast500 said:
I totally get what you are saying and I honestly debated spending this much... vs something 1/3 the price, I was also looking at the vrbox v2 or the blitz vr; However, I have read many good reviews about users already owning other vr headsets and still think the freefly is worth the extra cost. Supposedly it has 120 FOV which is more than the gear vr and any other phone vr headset.
I will be receiving this tomorrow so if i am not totally impressed ill get something cheaper or nothing at all.
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gotcha. i will be interested in hearing your results.
btw: check out this website to analyze the reviews that you see on Amazon
http://fakespot.com/
Bluetooth Controller
steveo17 said:
Negatives:
- No way of interacting with touch screen when phone is in the VR goggles (google cardboard Star wars edition had something to touch the screen). would really like if i didn't have to take the phone out of the goggles every time i wanted to change what i am doing
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Of course, there is a way to interact with screen without taking the phone out of the goggles. It's a worthwhile investment to get an inexpensive bluetooth controller.
Schmoopdawg said:
Of course, there is a way to interact with screen without taking the phone out of the goggles. It's a worthwhile investment to get an inexpensive bluetooth controller.
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i have come across those, but out of the box there is no way to interact with the screen

(Tech) Cant run downloaded apps on lg 360 VR

Could anybody give me any pointers on how to run downloaded apps? specifically cardboard apps? the vr manager app on thje phone shows the apps ive downloaded (like insidious) but they do not show up in the 360 vr. anybody have this vr and can help?
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/lg-g5-wallpaper-apps-ringtones-launcher-available-download-1552894
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Im not sure what that link is for. I cant get downloaded apps to run on the LG 360 VR.
I think LG has to update their VR channel/360 VR home to launch other VR apps like cardboard
right now we only have Jaunt and VRYoutube,
VR360Internet just popped up in the VR channel to
Hi above members....
I created another thread for this but no replies in a week, looks like you have the headset in hand, can you comment on performance specifically the lag and blur that was reported in the early reviews ?
I have nothing to compare it to but i dont see any lag, the screens res is pretty low, some vids are a little blurry and hard on the eyes but for $200 its pretty sweet
its nice that the phone powers it so you dont have to charge it
mastaful said:
I have nothing to compare it to but i dont see any lag, the screens res is pretty low, some vids are a little blurry and hard on the eyes but for $200 its pretty sweet
its nice that the phone powers it so you dont have to charge it
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Thanks, appreciate it's difficult if you haven't anything to compare it too :good:
mastaful said:
I think LG has to update their VR channel/360 VR home to launch other VR apps like cardboard
right now we only have Jaunt and VRYoutube,
VR360Internet just popped up in the VR channel to
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For something that might not be so great off the bat, you would think they would try to make it the best they can... I almost got cardboard apps running. Had to plug in the headset and uninstall the vr home while it was plugged in. This caused it to show the cardboard apps to actually show its content in the viewer but all in the wrong orientation.
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I can tell you do not buy this! I had Cardboard experience with Note 4 and its much more immersive and resolution are much better! I do hope LG will update it soon, especially Youtube. Youtube can be play in carboard videos mode and it is huge mistake that LG does not support it!
Same problem for me
So i also bought the lg vr and i have the same issue. None of the cardboard/vr apps in the app store are accessible in the vr. This leads me to my main point of dissatisfaction is that there is NOTHING to do on the lg vr 360. Not a single game or anything. Just Jaunt and Youtube and jaunt is so buggy i have only been able to use it once! Its like owning a swimming pool on tatooine! They didnt even equip the vr with ONE game... Not even pong or something super simple. I love the design and actually think its a great vr headset just... There is ABSOLUTLY nothing to do. Almost getting to the point of regeting the purchase.
I hear you lg has been my choice pf phones for years but I am ready to return my v20 and vr360 what a disappointment no games doesnt let you watch all vr content lg has really let me down please fix this.

Moto Mod Projector - Initial Thoughts

I just got my projector a couple of days ago. It was kinda a splurge purchase cause I didn't *need* it and $250 ain't cheep, but I has some extra Amazon balance that I didn't have designated for anything so I decided to splurge.
First, it's smaller than I expected it. I really expect it to be thicker than the JBL speaker mod, but it isn't. It's smaller... only a touch thicker than the Incipio Battery Pack.
I was a little disappointed by the brightness level... or lack there of... you're not going to be able to use this in a brightly lit room under most situations. Especially if you're looking at video that's somewhat dark itself. However, in a slightly darkened environment it should work just find for bright graphics/video, or in a relatively dark room it doesn't just find for any type of viewing.
Last night I watched an episode of Luke Cage shining on my bedroom ceiling. I had the lights completely out in the room and the picture looked great. The ceiling was probably about 6 feet above my head and I'd estimate the picture was around 40 inches across (so in the range of 50 inches diagonal?). Obviously the pictures is only 480p, so don't expect 4K or even 1080p quality, but honestly it was sharper than I expected and I really couldn't complain at all. Quality looked fine to me.
Audio on the other hand... Now, please take this with a grain of salt because my hearing isn't the greatest. Last time I had my ears checked (which was probably about a 10 years ago) I was just on the bottom edge of the "normal" range, so I'm sure my hearing is even worse now. Anyway, the audio from the phone speaker was questionable at best. I did okay because I was alone in the room with the door closed so there wasn't any outside noise coming in. Plus the speaker was more-or-less pointed at my ear and was only about 2 feet away from me. But any more distance or any level of background noise probably would have made impossible for me to hear clearly. So if you are like me and don't have great hearing, don't expect to be able to play with in a large or slightly noisy room without external speakers or headphones.
Ideally I'd have liked to see an external speaker added to the mod, but I understand there's only so much that can be done. (In case you're wondering the "vent" holes on the mod are for a fan that runs to keep the mod from getting too hot.)
After an hour of watching I'd drained the battery in the projector but didn't see a significant, if any, drop in battery level of the phone.
A few other quick points:
1. The fan is very, very quiet. I didn't hear it running at all when I was watching my episode.
2. The Hinged stand looks to be very nicely built. The hinge has a lot of friction and holds in place where ever you stop it. The mod also has a magnet where the (metal) hinge touches the mod when closed. This helps to keep the stand closed when not in use.
3. There is a USB-C power connector on the projector itself to charge the mod, and it's accessible from the outside (unlike the JBL which is on the "inside" of the mod). This is a nice feature as I'll likely be using headphones when using the mod to watch video. Unfortunately, the placement isn't idea. It's on the opposite side from the lens, which means if you have the stand open more than even a few degrees it prevents a cable from plugging into the mod. Better placement would have been one of the short sides or even on the same side as the lens. Also, it doesn't appear that the mod will charge the phone if you have power plugged in to the mod when connected to the phone. Still testing this, so I might revise this later.
4. I was worried that focusing would be a problem in that when I adjust focus, would I be moving the whole phone and would it then move where it was pointed? I'm please to say the focus wheel turns really smoothly and easily. Very easy to adjust without moving the phone around.
5. Keystone adjustments work GREAT. I moved my phone a bunch and it always did a good job of adjusting the keystone automatically. The only problems it ran into where when I was on the a corner... half on one wall half on another wall or ceiling. That kinda freaked it out, but that's not really a fair test anyway.
If you had any specific questions, feel free to ask away.
do you find yourself using it regularly?
CadillacMike said:
do you find yourself using it regularly?
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Not as much as I thought I might. I have used it a number of times to watch some TV shows and a movie or two, but like I mentioned, it needs to be pretty dark for things to really show up nicely. There has been a couple of times when I thought about using it and couldn't because it was just too bright out.
If you the type of person who like to cast stuff to share with others alot or does lots of presentations this could be useful, but I'm not sure it's worth the price for just the occasional limited use.
I personally have used it for locations where there were no alternatives. I used it for projecting howto's for coping molding on a wall at a rental we were renovating, then projecting a movie during a pizza break in the living room of the same empty rental. I also projected netflix in a condo which had a small tv in an odd location. The projection to the ceiling above a bed is satisfying (twitter NFL stream). I have used it waiting to pick up daughter from band practice. I projected to the sun roof cover of my car (Tan interiors) with great results. Its not something that is life changing, but it is something you could find useful and want to use as much as you can.
The projector screen of the instal-share projector mod turn off randomly whenever mod battery below 20% while z play still has sufficient battery. Does anyone here face the same problem? Is it a bug or hardware problem? I tried to reset the mod by pressing and holding the battery check button for several seconds already but didn't help.
What a funny thread. I'm surprised at the mix of experiences. For me, the projector has been life changing. It gets used daily. I've made it so my bedroom and living room in two houses are capable of being blacked out​ and supporting a 120" projection surface. My TV hardly gets used anymore. I'm now researching some alternative projectors as I would like to be able to play games as well. Basically, this unit spoiled me. I now can't imagine life without screen sizes well in excess of realistic tv offerings.
kelvinhoho said:
The projector screen of the instal-share projector mod turn off randomly whenever mod battery below 20% while z play still has sufficient battery. Does anyone here face the same problem? Is it a bug or hardware problem? I tried to reset the mod by pressing and holding the battery check button for several seconds already but didn't help.
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It's a bug. Now if the phone has less than 20 % then the mod will power off regardless of the power level of the mod
killboredom said:
What a funny thread. I'm surprised at the mix of experiences. For me, the projector has been life changing. It gets used daily. I've made it so my bedroom and living room in two houses are capable of being blacked out​ and supporting a 120" projection surface. My TV hardly gets used anymore. I'm now researching some alternative projectors as I would like to be able to play games as well. Basically, this unit spoiled me. I now can't imagine life without screen sizes well in excess of realistic tv offerings.
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I think if I had a subscription to a streaming service like Netflix I'd use it more... but it's a pain to move files to my phone if I want to watch 'em right now.
On the other hand, I did discover that in my living room (the family TV is in the den, so the living room isn't used much), I can lay on the couch and project really big on the wall at a very comfortable viewing angle, so that's a plus.

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