Yet again another S2 Classic battery question - Samsung Gear S2

After reading through some posts, I want some clarification plz. I picked up AT&T's version of the S2 classic(4g). Battery life pretty bad IMO. I have been connecting through 4G I assume, which I read today that it showing "connected remotely" on both the phone and S2 is using 4G radio, which is the battery killer, correct? Or even worse in standalone, which uses it own cell number correct? So am I just to pair it with BT only?,(showing "connected via BT" on both phone and S2), I too use Numbersync to use only the phones number on the S2. Seems no matter the configuration, all calls, texts and such work correct. The only grip is when a call or text is received, and is answered on the S2, it leaves the missed call or text notifications on the phone. Any way to correct that? Thanks in advance.

You should just use the bluetooth and set the mobile data to connect automatically when needed. That will help some. If it looses bluetooth then it will connect to the Phone with 4g or wifi other than that it turns those radios off.

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[Completed] Vzw Motorola Droid Turbo doesn't stay connected to Vzw Network Extender SCS-2U01

Never posted here before, but I have a pretty specific situation and have heard this is the place to find the experts.
I just switched from a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 to a Verizon Motorola Droid Turbo 64gb. I have a Samsung SCS-2U01 Network Extender through Verizon because I am in a strange dead pocket for their network, as in I can barely get 1-3 bars of 1x normally and phones like to drop calls at my house. So, with my GS3 and my wife's Note 3, everything was fine and dandy, phones connect when you walk in the house, and stay connected.
When I just switched to the Droid Turbo, the phone connects to the Network Extender when I walk into the house (shows the little "house" emblem), but as soon as some Wi-Fi action takes place (which it automatically connects to as well), the little house emblem disappears, and I appear to not be on the Network Extender anymore. By the way, I do have the Extender configured via the website to allow our two numbers only to connect. Strangely, when I call #48 it says I AM connected.... weird.
When checking in the phone settings, I am in fact not connected anymore, and have -85 to -90 dBmW of 1x signal.
When I turn the Wi-Fi off, it reconnects to the Extender and I have -75dBmW of 3G and the house emblem appears again.
When I try to pull in an MMS message, it fails (having only 1x signal) and the phone sits there just getting hot, and PLOWING through battery.
I have seen a post on here about a similar issue that links the problem to Motorola's use of a single antenna for Wi-Fi and cell network. So, I understand the root of the issue being Motorala's decision to use a single radio chip.
My question is: is there another solution? Is there a way to force a sustained connection? Do I just need to get a different phone with two separate chips? The Samsung seem to handle it well, maybe the LG G3? Verizon seems stumped about this one, and will let me exchange until Jan 15. I figured I would consult here first.
I'm happy to provide any more info.
JR
Typically when on Stable wifi, Android does indeed turn off Cell Radio for Data connection so as to save Battery. However, in your case, being one common radio makes a double whammy. The phone must turn off Data in order to get on WiFi.
So in your case, although the phone's display won't show it, you still have got bars that'd let you make or receive calls while connected to WiFi. As to Texts, it could be deal breaker for you. I do believe Verizon needs to have Data Connection On in order to receive MMS or texts. In which case, this device is no good, especially considering the dead zone you are in. You *could* switch to Google Voice to send and receive texts but that's a workaround to be honest.
Last but not the least,please review Wi-Fi issue you might want to post there and get a second opinion from one of the Experts for your device.

GEAR S2 vs 3g

I'm considering getting a gear S2 monday. How does the 3g version work. I know it has its own sim card, and own number. Does it auto forward text and calls from my phone, or does it operate in wifi/BT mode when the phone is near. If so how does one get text and calls when out and away from phone.
I'm wondering if the 3g is worth the cost, or stick with the BT/wifi version.
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The tmobile LTE version works best with a Samsung phone. All calls, texts, notifications are forward automatically to the watch if you lose the bluetooth connection. I had a nexus 6 and it sort of worked but you have to manually call forward everytime. I sold the nexus for a note 5. More seamless operating with the watch.
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I'm considering getting a gear S2 monday. How does the 3g version work. I know it has its own sim card, and own number. Does it auto forward text and calls from my phone, or does it operate in wifi/BT mode when the phone is near. If so how does one get text and calls when out and away from phone.
I'm wondering if the 3g is worth the cost, or stick with the BT/wifi version.
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For me, the S2 3G is worth all the extra money over the S2 Sport. You can do more with the 3G version. GPS, speaker, custom ringtones, bigger battery.
I tried both a S2 Sport & Classic and ended up returning them for the S2 3G.
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Sounds good, I've got the S6 edge so it sounds like auto forward is the way to go.
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I agree to the 3G version is the way to go.
Got mine today. 3g version. I'm liking it so far, but haven't had a chance to play much.
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How is the battery life with 3g off? Is it any better than the regular s2?
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How is the battery life with 3g off? Is it any better than the regular s2?
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After some lack luster battery performance with 3G always on, the last few days I've been just using it with bluetooth. I can still use only the watch for calls and it works fine, I was at about 50% batter last night after using it from 0700 to about 2230 or so. I'm planning on exchanging the watch for a new one due to battery life issues, up till a few days ago I always left it on and it would be at about 20-30% by night time. To answer your question, yes the battery life is a good amount better in my eyes. I was able to use the watch like normal and not worry about battery and still had lots left at the end of a long day, last time I had 3G on it was at 20% by noon.
I have a Verizon GS2 and a note 4 that it's paired with for reference.
Overall I like the speaker and GPS ability and if I want to turn 3g on and use it on a run or out and about I can without issue, it's a nice feature to have.
I just left the AT&T store, I think the watch is too thick for me. I might buy the Wi-Fi only one, I don't know we'll see.
I have a Galaxy S6 Edge, so I can only speak to the experience with a Samsung phone.
Short answer: Everything you were asking about works, and works well with a Samsung phone.
Longer answer:
The watch's connection configuration is very flexible. There are 3 means of connection -- BT, Wifi, 3G -- and the connection settings can be configured to use wifi and 3G as fallback options. This is really the only way to set it up -- it maximizes battery life, and will automate keeping the watch connected. So, if you get out of BT range of the phone, it will attempt to connect to wifi and then remotely to the watch; if that fails, it will turn on 3G and do the same. However, you can force it to use either wifi or 3G all the time if you like.
I've been able to get a day and a half pretty regularly out of the watch. I always get a full (7am - 9pm) day unless I spend a lot of time using it like a smartphone. However, when connected via BT most of the day, I receive and send dozens of SMS messages, make a few calls, use HERE for navigation now and then, etc.
The messaging connection between my phone and watch has been 100% reliable for me, as it switches between different connection methods. It has been very, very nice this week twice when I ran out of the house to go somewhere, forgot my phone, simply invoked the call-forwarding mechanism on the watch (remotely!), and I got a call (the second time... no one called the first time )
The 3G capability is definitely worth it.
Can the s2-3g be unlocked to use on another carrier?

remote connect via wifi not working - only BT

Hey guys!
Is there any way to force remote connection using wifi instead of BT? For some reason, my phone + gear s3 doesnt connect remotely anymore .. It can only connect via BT. It started happening today. Last night it was fine.
I go to my basement all the time and my BT disconnects due to distance (if i left my phone).
Now im worried its probably a defect. Both my phone and s3 are in the same wifi network. I tried using a different wifi network as well.
Thanks in advanced.
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Hey guys!
Is there any way to force remote connection using wifi instead of BT? For some reason, my phone + gear s3 doesnt connect remotely anymore .. It can only connect via BT. It started happening today. Last night it was fine.
I go to my basement all the time and my BT disconnects due to distance (if i left my phone).
Now im worried its probably a defect. Both my phone and s3 are in the same wifi network. I tried using a different wifi network as well.
Thanks in advanced.
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Have you tried a reset of the Gear?
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Have you tried a reset of the Gear?
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Im trying now.
I don't remember my S3 ever remotely connecting via WiFi. It would do it over the cellular network once I breezed out of Bluetooth range, but it never told me about WiFi.
In fact, the remote connection via cellular is awfully intermittent. The only thing that seems to restore it is a reset of the S3. Even after that, though, I've never seen mine remotely connect on WiFi.
The whole remote connection thing seems to be dicey at best, in my experience.
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I don't remember my S3 ever remotely connecting via WiFi. It would do it over the cellular network once I breezed out of Bluetooth range, but it never told me about WiFi.
In fact, the remote connection via cellular is awfully intermittent. The only thing that seems to restore it is a reset of the S3. Even after that, though, I've never seen mine remotely connect on WiFi.
The whole remote connection thing seems to be dicey at best, in my experience.
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I have the opposite mine seems to connect remote over wifi just fine but not really over cell connection.. i have not tested tho.. i will today and update you guys.
Yeah I have never seen it connect to the Phone via WiFi... only via BT. If the watch loses range, it will connect to a Wifi (if it is enabled, Always on or Auto), but would not communicate with the phone. So it's "Standalone, but with wifi".
It worked like this out of the box. Bought the GearS3 in the US. I'm not sure if connecting to phone via wifi is even possible....
I can confirm that it does connect via WiFi although I was totally unaware that it could.
Yesterday I returned to my house from visiting my daughters house and realised I didn't have my phone. Thinking that I had dropped my phone in the car I used my house phone to call my mobile and my S3 on my wrist started ringing. This convinced me that although I couldn't hear it ringing my phone must be in the car but then my daughter answered my phone that I had left at her house! So my mobile was connected to her WiFi and my S3 was connected to my WiFi, which are 30 miles apart, yet but my S3 was synced with my phone.
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I can confirm that it does connect via WiFi although I was totally unaware that it could.
Yesterday I returned to my house from visiting my daughters house and realised I didn't have my phone. Thinking that I had dropped my phone in the car I used my house phone to call my mobile and my S3 on my wrist started ringing. This convinced me that although I couldn't hear it ringing my phone must be in the car but then my daughter answered my phone that I had left at her house! So my mobile was connected to her WiFi and my S3 was connected to my WiFi, which are 30 miles apart, yet but my S3 was synced with my phone.
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That's really neat! I've never experienced that.
Samsung ought to create a small app that will reestablish whatever mechanism there is to make the remote connection thing reliable. It's fantastic when it works, but if you're not on Bluetooth, it's a crap shoot if it'll work or not.
One other observation. In my experience, updating Samsung Pay on the phone seems to break whatever mechanism there is for reliable remote connection. Even after logging in/verifying the Samsung Account, it seems to break it. Weird.
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Yeah, it totally blew me when my daughter answered my phone because I was convinced it must be connected by Bluetooth and so in the car.
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Yeah, it totally blew me when my daughter answered my phone because I was convinced it must be connected by Bluetooth and so in the car.
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Now wait a min lol.. mine does not do that.. only get notification not calls.. i have a vzw note edge.. what kind of phone do you have? I was thinking when i bought the watch that it would take calls over wifi so i could basically leave my phone in my office and roam around the office and still take calls all on wifi.. that does not seem to be the case for me anyway.. guess i need to do some more testing. If it works like you say then this is great news.
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also mine says standalone when it has lost the BT from the phone says its connected via wifi..
I didn't say I answered the call on my S3. My S3 buzzed and showed call from home but before I could do anything else my daughter answered the call on my phone. So the S3 was obviously connected via WiFi and internet to my phone (Samsung A5) but what functionality that gives I don't know. Although, thinking about it I did hit reply on the S3 and the home phone rang, which I didn't answer, so who knows.
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I didn't say I answered the call on my S3. My S3 buzzed and showed call from home but before I could do anything else my daughter answered the call on my phone. So the S3 was obviously connected via WiFi and internet to my phone (Samsung A5) but what functionality that gives I don't know. Although, thinking about it I did hit reply on the S3 and the home phone rang, which I didn't answer, so who knows.
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Gotcha.. still sounds like you could have took the call.. maybe.. Thanks.
Yep, the weird thing is though when I'm at home and out of bluetooth range the S3 goes into WiFi standalone mode although both phone and S3 are on the same WiFi network. Yet, yesterday the S3 was showing connected which was why I was convinced the phone must be near.
So i just tested and i walked across the office and my watch says connected remotely. I called my cell and my S3 did not ring.. it did tell me i had a missed call tho and i got an email while i was over there..
Did you have a reply option to the message because I did? When I tapped reply it said 'connect remotely' to which I said yes.
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Did you have a reply option to the message because I did? When I tapped reply it said 'connect remotely' to which I said yes.
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For the missed call? or the email? Not sure about email but the missed call notification i tap on it and it pops up saying connect to phone via Bluetooth ? i get a x on the left and a check on the right.. if i hit x nothing happens and if i hit the check it will try to find my phones BT.. Just tested an email.. all i have when i scroll all the way down is delete but i can hit the dots on the right and i have a reply option.. i was able to send a quick reply to myself.. this is all while my phone says connected remotely..
I was just checking the connection dialogue and it says "... remotely via mobile data or Wi-Fi."
Dunno how I missed the Wi-Fi part.
The missed call. All my calls and taps happened over a matter of seconds whilst I was more concerned with finding my mobile than what the S3 was actually doing. The fact that it was doing anything in relation to a call to my mobile was pointing me towards the phone being close. So it seems from your testing, and nothing I experienced really contradicts that, that when you're connected by WiFi you do only get notification of a call. I did tap reply to the missed call and the house phone rang but I can't say for sure that the call was from the S3 because I never answered it and didn't check the S3 again because I was leaving to return to my daughters house.
By the way guys, I had to factory reset my S3 and remote connectivity worked again. I now learned to backup my S3 if this happens again. I rely mostly in remote connectivity thats why this is a big deal for me.
Mind you that I confirmed that I'm connected to WIFI on my phone and I can browse on it too. It just doesn't connect the phone.
I just hope there is a way to force remote connectivity in the settings so I know what going on!
I entered feedback into the Samsung support website about this particular problem. I explained that the remote connection between the S3 and my phone is intermittent. I was very dismayed to get a stock, canned answer back about rebooting my router. This is the second time that I've attempted to address this, once through the chat client and once through email. I'm very disappointed with Samsung's support considering the size of their company. Alas, guidance on how to correct this problem does not appear to be forthcoming.

Receiving messages and goals alert when phone is out of range?

Hi,
I have looked around everywhere but no joy in finding out if I can receive texts, goal alerts etc when my phone is in my work locker about 300 feet away.
The phone is connected to my work, (retail shop) public Wi-Fi but I can’t connect my s2 gear, correct?
I have tried to but because it’s a web browser based login, the s2 gear can’t connect.
Is there anyway around this, I saw about the syncing but I don’t get any notifications until I go back to my phone at the end of my shift.
I am probably asking for too much it seems but just wanted to ask the question in case there is an obvious answer.
Many thanks.
To receive notifications once out of BT range, the watch must be remotely connected to the phone, either via WiFi or cellular. It sounds like your use case would benefit from the 3G variant of the watch.
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To receive notifications once out of BT range, the watch must be remotely connected to the phone, either via WiFi or cellular. It sounds like your use case would benefit from the 3G variant of the watch.
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Yes thanks for that I should have purchased that one, I bought it second hand so may have to sell it on.

Cancel Data Plan with LTE Gear S3 ?

I have been using my Gear S3, Frontier, LTE version on T-Mobile for close to a year. In looking back over my use, I have discovered that I really don't need the extra expense of the data plan. I always have my paired phone (Galaxy S9+) with me and have only used the watch for phone calls a couple of times. I used the Gear for phone calls a few times when I first got it, and that was to test the service. For real calls, I just use my phone. I DO use Samsung Pay with the watch fairly frequently.
I am considering dropping the cellular plan for the watch. I have turned off mobile data on the watch, and left Bluetooth and WiFi on. Of course, I still get notifications on the watch.
My question is will I lose anything other than phone calls and the remote connection to the watch having cancelled the data plan? Will Samsung Pay still work as long as my phone is within Bluetooth range when I make a purchase?
TIA
The only thing I've lost is the call making ability. Samsung pay still works, even when my phone's in the car. Haven't tested out remote connectivity, but I'm assuming if it's connected to WiFi, you're good

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