I have some quentions:
Hey guys, i was wondering if it's possible to flash a custom rom without unlocking the bootloader and without installing other recovery.
Or if it's possible to edit the stock rom , and add new features , mostly customize , and flash it with locked bootloader and original recovery.
I heard somewhere that in some cases it can be done with locked bootloader .
What happen if i try to flash a custom rom with locked bootloader and original recovery?
Could this brick my Moto G ?
Could the bootloader be locked forever?
I wan't to keep it fully original ( Bootloader and recovery) and install Android 6.0
If this not possible i want to edit the stock Lollipop 5.1.1 rom , add some features and tweaks , and flash it , would be possible?
Luis
Moto G XT1032
Android Lollipop 5.1.1
16Gb
lprb99 said:
I have some quentions:
Hey guys, i was wondering if it's possible to flash a custom rom without unlocking the bootloader and without installing other recovery.
Or if it's possible to edit the stock rom , and add new features , mostly customize , and flash it with locked bootloader and original recovery.
I heard somewhere that in some cases it can be done with locked bootloader .
What happen if i try to flash a custom rom with locked bootloader and original recovery?
Could this brick my Moto G ?
Could the bootloader be locked forever?
I wan't to keep it fully original ( Bootloader and recovery) and install Android 6.0
If this not possible i want to edit the stock Lollipop 5.1.1 rom , add some features and tweaks , and flash it , would be possible?
Luis
Moto G XT1032
Android Lollipop 5.1.1
16Gb
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Short answer: no!
Long answer: No - the only notable exceptions to this are the Bump-compatible LG phones like the LG G3, in which the ROM images/recovery images have a signature key appended to the images so that the bootloader will approve of said images and therefore said images can be installed onto an LG phone.
As a result of the way Motorola/Lenovo, HTC, Huawei, Sony et al works with custom image approval, the only way for you to install a custom image is to FIRST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER, and THEN INSTALL A CUSTOM IMAGE!
aha360 said:
Short answer: no!
Long answer: No - the only notable exceptions to this are the Bump-compatible LG phones like the LG G3, in which the ROM images/recovery images have a signature key appended to the images so that the bootloader will approve of said images and therefore said images can be installed onto an LG phone.
As a result of the way Motorola/Lenovo, HTC, Huawei, Sony et al works with custom image approval, the only way for you to install a custom image is to FIRST UNLOCK THE BOOTLOADER, and THEN INSTALL A CUSTOM IMAGE!
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Hi aha360 thanks for you reply.
:good:
I have one more question :
Is it possible to root my moto g without unlocking the bootloader?
Root would bring me useful features , but i don't want to end with a bricked moto g.
As you noticed i want my moto g as original as possible, but with some tweaks.
I didn't understand if i can edit stock lollipop rom and flash it.
I just wanted to have Android 6.0 in my moto g , but that is not possible with Moto by Lenovo
lprb99 said:
Hi aha360 thanks for you reply.
:good:
I have one more question :
Is it possible to root my moto g without unlocking the bootloader?
Root would bring me useful features , but i don't want to end with a bricked moto g.
As you noticed i want my moto g as original as possible, but with some tweaks.
I didn't understand if i can edit stock lollipop rom and flash it.
I just wanted to have Android 6.0 in my moto g , but that is not possible with Moto by Lenovo
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Sadly, no - I have done my research on this and unless the OS/ROM itself has an exploit that allows root access, you'd also have to unlock the bootloader just to have root access on a stock ROM.
It sucks, as I also ideally wanted to just get root access on a stock ROM on my newly-acquired Moto G LTE (Peregrine) so like I said, for all things XDA-friendly mod-related, Motorola/Lenovo et al says 'unlock bootloader and lose your warranty or STFU'.
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Sadly, no - I have done my research on this and unless the OS/ROM itself has an exploit that allows root access, you'd also have to unlock the bootloader just to have root access on a stock ROM.
It sucks, as I also ideally wanted to just get root access on a stock ROM on my newly-acquired Moto G LTE (Peregrine) so like I said, for all things XDA-friendly mod-related, Motorola/Lenovo et al says 'unlock bootloader and lose your warranty or STFU'.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774016
Would this work for xt1032 ?
or Would this acutally work?
lprb99 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2774016
Would this work for xt1032 ?
or Would this acutally work?
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The exploit looks like it is based on Jelly Bean and KitKat, so provided that you haven't upgraded, you could try it out, otherwise you are out of luck.
aha360 said:
The exploit looks like it is based on Jelly Bean and KitKat, so provided that you haven't upgraded, you could try it out, otherwise you are out of luck.
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I have lollipop 5.1.1 ...
lprb99 said:
I have lollipop 5.1.1 ...
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Then you're **** outta luck - you'll have to unlock your bootloader then.
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Hi,
I am planning to create a custom roms for Charm/Flipout.
I have rooted my device and planning to create system.img (Without Motoblur, etc ) .Before that I have some questions that needs help.
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
Thank you guys.
Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt
matteosg said:
Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt
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I can only overwrite my Charm's ROM with Motorola's different versions. Haven't tried them all yet (only the T-Mobile version has booted).
I'm trying to get Freeyo to make us a custom ROM by donating a him a Charm:
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=664&p=23467
Here's the original Charm T-Mobile ROM and another ROM for Charm without Blur - but it didn't boot when I flashed it to my T-Mobile Charm using RSDLite 4.5.3 - I had to flash T-Mobile again.
Haven't found a way to (nan- or clockworkmod-) backup the entire ROM.
Charm ROMs:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502
You open the recovery menu (only good for wiping and installing a signed update.zip - not backup) by holding power and X. When M logo appears release Power.
To flash an *.fsb ROM using USB cable and RSDLite you must hold down arrow up and power - then release power.
saravanadel said:
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
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No. Installing a custom ROM not signed by Motorola required a custom recovery image.
saravanadel said:
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
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In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
saravanadel said:
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
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You can't run nandroid on devices with locked bootloaders.
saravanadel said:
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
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There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm because its bootloader is still locked. The stock T-Mobile image is the official one that is signed and therefore can be flashed on the locked bootloader.
> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
The recovery tool menu (hold X while booting and release it when M-logo appears) can apply update.zip and I guess those must be signed as well but perhaps the developers can do that.
> There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm
But apart from the official T-Mobile ROM there is an official DEBLUR ROM (which didn't boot for me, though) - and there Motorolas open source repository if developers want to build a ROM themselves, I guess. I haven't found the Telus ROM but I suspect it's also on Motorolals non-listed download server but its direct link is unknown.
Thanks about power on + up arrow press to bootloader... I'm trying to flash that Android without blur on my MB502... Let's see if it will work
Crossing fingers!
dvfk said:
> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
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On an unlocked bootloader the signature of the ROM you are flashing must match Motorola's (which are a secret, obviously). The whole point of unlocking the bootloader is to be able to flash ROMs with different signatures.
Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz
ergosteur said:
Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz
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I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?
Can i build an custom recovery image and flash it using the update.zip method.
Steps in building custom rom
koushikdutta.com/2010/10/porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html
Here my build fails in the step where i link with the boot.img
In my charm I have taken the boot.img using cat /proc/mtd.
When building it says invalid header
Any suggestions.
Before that is this method possible ?
saravanadel said:
Before that is this method possible ?
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No, because you would have to sign that recovery image with keys that only Motorola engineers know.
Hi,
Please android geeks, any suggestions to unlock the bootloader on charm.
Note: popular devices are the benefitted ones. Unique models and low end phone are not cared by geeks, I guess.
In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm
dvfk said:
In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm
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That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.
Chahk said:
I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?
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It's the deblur rom from http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502
I don't think it works on T-Mo charms because the T-Mobile charm seems to have a newer bootloader which won't accept older ROMs like the Deblur one.
Charm ROM
Hi Guys,
not sure if this is helpful, got this link from a chinese website. my Asia Charm is running BASEM_U3_01.12.0_DEBLUR.
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewSummary/projects.charm/frs
Matt
eagerly awaiting for the custom rom...
Chahk said:
That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.
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why charm can root,Can not customize the ROM
Is Android Lollipop out for Moto G (1st) GPE? or still not? (bought mine from Google's website)
daniel1112333 said:
Is Android Lollipop out for Moto G (1st) GPE? or still not? (bought mine from Google's website)
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Have you got it?
No?
Guess what......ITS NOT OUT
eemgee said:
Have you got it?
No?
Guess what......ITS NOT OUT
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sorry if this is a stupid question, but if i've already unlocked the bootloader, and installed root and recovery but i didnt change/modify the original/official ROM 4.4.4 from my moto G, in order to get the lolipop update, i just need to install the original "stock" recovery or i will need to flash everything (firmware/radio/originalrom, etc) again? thanks in advance folks, im just new with moto g.
If you have stock recovery and unmodified system you should be fine with the ota, when it comes.
rickastillo said:
sorry if this is a stupid question, but if i've already unlocked the bootloader, and installed root and recovery but i didnt change/modify the original/official ROM 4.4.4 from my moto G, in order to get the lolipop update, i just need to install the original "stock" recovery or i will need to flash everything (firmware/radio/originalrom, etc) again? thanks in advance folks, im just new with moto g.
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Listen to mw, if you dont wanna have trouble with the ota, flash entire firmware! Do that and you will see there will be no problem... Restore entire firmware before updating via ota.
Afaik you can also use CWM to update
MarckozZ said:
Listen to mw, if you dont wanna have trouble with the ota, flash entire firmware! Do that and you will see there will be no problem... Restore entire firmware before updating via ota.
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Oh ok, well i guess i will have to do that, my motog is the dualsim type XT1033, i bought it on amazon, i asume it is the "brazilian" one nor the asian , but it would be any problem if it happens to be the asians one? or there is any different between these two? i guess i did the wrong thing (unrooting and install a custom recovery) days before loli pop update T_T
I guess the OTA notification still will show up even if it's recovery was modified
I guess the question is answered so we can close this one
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What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
ak_wolf007 said:
What is a bootloader(tell me in simplest way)....Is unlocking the bootloader really required...? If not then please post another method for root......
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watch this video to unlock it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIdJg7KNH3A
and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
with custom recovery you can install roms,make full system backup,and other things.
a custom kernel wil allow you to overclock cpu/gpu and more.
a custom recovery can be used to flash root.update zip.
but after unlocking bootloader you void your warranty . and your device got hard reset(factory reset)
it can be only unlocked if it is allowed to be unlocked.
android-vinay said:
and a bootloader allows you to flash kernels/recovers/ and other custom things but only if it is unlocked.
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Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
Regards,
mmerlone said:
Not entirely true, at least to all devices. I have a Moto Defy which also has a locked bootloader, no way to unlock, running KK CM11. Developer @pedrodh has managed to create an app called "2ndinit" (1) which allows a second kernel to boot on top of the locked one, allowing to flash new builds despite the locked bootloader. Because of this, Defy is known as unbricable. Similar approach could be used on E3 if some devel take a look into this.
(1) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1032212
Regards,
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this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
root ur device without unlocking
vinay said:
this required root.
for now you need to unlockbootloader to root xperia.
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just use kingoroot or kingroot to root ur device no need to unlock boot loader for running those you will have root access but can't do the flashing part
Hi, I wondered to know which is the safest way to root our moto g. I don't want to wipe data or delete system partition or even install custom recoveries. Is possibile to just get root access without modify too much our device?
My device: XT1032
Currently with: 5.0.2 stock
Thanks
giofrida said:
Hi, I wondered to know which is the safest way to root our moto g. I don't want to wipe data or delete system partition or even install custom recoveries. Is possibile to just get root access without modify too much our device?
My device: XT1032
Currently with: 5.0.2 stock
Thanks
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Is your bootloader unlocked? If not you have to, and when you do, your data will be wiped.
If you are unlocked, download cfauto root for your device and it's pretty much one click to root.
Damn, I didn't want to backup and restore all my data.
Just another question: bootloader unlocked means warranty void, doesn't it? Can I lock the bootloader again in order to have the warranty valid again?
giofrida said:
Damn, I didn't want to backup and restore all my data.
Just another question: bootloader unlocked means warranty void, doesn't it? Can I lock the bootloader again in order to have the warranty valid again?
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You can relock it, but as you need to request the unlock code from motorola it's pointless relocking it.
In fact motorola say just requesting the code voids the warranty even if you don't use it!
Thank you for the useful information
guide?
eemgee said:
You can relock it, but as you need to request the unlock code from motorola it's pointless relocking it.
In fact motorola say just requesting the code voids the warranty even if you don't use it!
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i am a newbie and i don't know much about rooted phones could you help me by telling me with details the whole procedure ?
i have unlocked my moto g xt1032 and now i want to root it
i use 5.0.2 lolipop
phone newbie said:
i am a newbie and i don't know much about rooted phones could you help me by telling me with details the whole procedure ?
i have unlocked my moto g xt1032 and now i want to root it
i use 5.0.2 lolipop
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Download cfauto root for your device to your computer from here
1: Boot the phone into bootloader
2: Connect device to the computer with a USB cable
3: Unzip the CF-Auto-Root-xxx-xxx-xxx.zip file on the computer
4: Run the root-windows.bat file
That's it:good:
Flash custom recovery > flash Superuser.zip > profit.
You do not use root exploits when you have a unlocked bootloader.
Sent from my XT1031™
Hey, so i want to root my Moto G XT1033 16GB dual SIM running android 5.0.2.
I've bricked a smarthone before while trying to root it, so i want some help to root my phone the safest way possible. My warranty has already expired.
Obs: my phone is from brazil, i'm not sure if that changes anything.
I've attatched a screenshot if any other info is needed.
If you have a custom recovery installed you can flash it from there. Go here and grab SuperSU and follow the instructions.
Kyozumoh said:
Hey, so i want to root my Moto G XT1033 16GB dual SIM running android 5.0.2.
I've bricked a smarthone before while trying to root it, so i want some help to root my phone the safest way possible. My warranty has already expired.
Obs: my phone is from brazil, i'm not sure if that changes anything.
I've attatched a screenshot if any other info is needed.
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Install a custom recovery like Philz or twrp
And flash supersu zip by chainfire
sjandroiddeveloper said:
Install a custom recovery like Philz or twrp
And flash supersu zip by chainfire
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so yeah.
many DL's such wow, wich one do i pick? (attachment)
Also, do i unlock the bootloader before installing twrp?
Kyozumoh said:
so yeah.
many DL's such wow, wich one do i pick? (attachment)
Also, do i unlock the bootloader before installing twrp?
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You must unlock the bootloader before flashing a custom recovery otherwise it will not install
And do no download twrp for moto g from twrp's official site, it still have bugs
Download from this thread
[RECOVERY][falcon]TWRP 2.8.6.0 touch recovery [2015-04-06]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2980621
Sent from falcon
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sjandroiddeveloper said:
You must unlock the bootloader before flashing a custom recovery otherwise it will not install
And do no download twrp for moto g from twrp's official site, it still have bugs
Download from this thread
[RECOVERY][falcon]TWRP 2.8.6.0 touch recovery [2015-04-06]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2980621
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Hey, so how do i know if my moto g is GPE or not?
Kyozumoh said:
Hey, so how do i know if my moto g is GPE or not?
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If you are on stock ROM that came with your phone then if you have stock Motorola apps and Motorola options in settings then you have retail variant and if you don't have these apps and settings then you are gpe