Custom ROM For Motorola Charm. Help Please - Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]

Hi,
I am planning to create a custom roms for Charm/Flipout.
I have rooted my device and planning to create system.img (Without Motoblur, etc ) .Before that I have some questions that needs help.
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
Thank you guys.

Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt

matteosg said:
Hi,
I would be happy to help.... I have a Charm without Blur. If someone can teach me how to dump the Rom, I could help....
Matt
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I can only overwrite my Charm's ROM with Motorola's different versions. Haven't tried them all yet (only the T-Mobile version has booted).
I'm trying to get Freeyo to make us a custom ROM by donating a him a Charm:
http://www.cronosproject.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=664&p=23467

Here's the original Charm T-Mobile ROM and another ROM for Charm without Blur - but it didn't boot when I flashed it to my T-Mobile Charm using RSDLite 4.5.3 - I had to flash T-Mobile again.
Haven't found a way to (nan- or clockworkmod-) backup the entire ROM.
Charm ROMs:
http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502

You open the recovery menu (only good for wiping and installing a signed update.zip - not backup) by holding power and X. When M logo appears release Power.
To flash an *.fsb ROM using USB cable and RSDLite you must hold down arrow up and power - then release power.

saravanadel said:
1 .Can I install cynanogen rom (For Droid for any other) in my rooted charm device ?
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No. Installing a custom ROM not signed by Motorola required a custom recovery image.
saravanadel said:
2. I am planning to flash aman ra recovery. If i flash the recovery, will the bootloader would be overwritten . ?
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In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader. Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
saravanadel said:
3. Can I do a nandroid backup before flashing the recovery. Basically becoz If i screw up I can come back to my rom (Asian stock rom). ?
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You can't run nandroid on devices with locked bootloaders.
saravanadel said:
4. Is there any custom roms (2.2) for motorola charm device ? (I saw a Tmobile stock rom floating)
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There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm because its bootloader is still locked. The stock T-Mobile image is the official one that is signed and therefore can be flashed on the locked bootloader.

> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
The recovery tool menu (hold X while booting and release it when M-logo appears) can apply update.zip and I guess those must be signed as well but perhaps the developers can do that.
> There are currently no custom ROMs for the Charm
But apart from the official T-Mobile ROM there is an official DEBLUR ROM (which didn't boot for me, though) - and there Motorolas open source repository if developers want to build a ROM themselves, I guess. I haven't found the Telus ROM but I suspect it's also on Motorolals non-listed download server but its direct link is unknown.

Thanks about power on + up arrow press to bootloader... I'm trying to flash that Android without blur on my MB502... Let's see if it will work
Crossing fingers!

dvfk said:
> In order to install a custom Recovery you need an unlocked bootloader.
> Unfortunately Bootloader on Charm is still locked.
Can't developers sign ROMs themselves? Cheat the bootloader by signing a custom ROM?
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On an unlocked bootloader the signature of the ROM you are flashing must match Motorola's (which are a secret, obviously). The whole point of unlocking the bootloader is to be able to flash ROMs with different signatures.

Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz

ergosteur said:
Just a heads up to Charm owners.
NEVER EVER EVER flash the T-Mobile Charm ROM if you're not on T-Mobile.
Your phone will be stuck on that ROM because flashing it messes with your bootloader, and the bootloader won't be able to accept any other ROM.
If you want to de-blur use this:
https://rsddownload.motorola.com/do...00_UC1SOMPBASLRTINT_P025_A016_HWp3_1FF.sbf.gz
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I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?

Can i build an custom recovery image and flash it using the update.zip method.
Steps in building custom rom
koushikdutta.com/2010/10/porting-clockwork-recovery-to-new.html
Here my build fails in the step where i link with the boot.img
In my charm I have taken the boot.img using cat /proc/mtd.
When building it says invalid header
Any suggestions.
Before that is this method possible ?

saravanadel said:
Before that is this method possible ?
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No, because you would have to sign that recovery image with keys that only Motorola engineers know.

Hi,
Please android geeks, any suggestions to unlock the bootloader on charm.
Note: popular devices are the benefitted ones. Unique models and low end phone are not cared by geeks, I guess.

In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm

dvfk said:
In the thread 'Motorola Charm!' the user polovinamozga has finally cracked the bootloader! Even tried cyanogen 6 on the Charm
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That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.

Chahk said:
I have a T-Mobile branded Charm that is unlocked and I use it on AT&T's network. It's stuck on EDGE because of the different frequencies, but I don't mind.
What's this image? Judging by the file name, it looks like it's for "Basil" which appears to be Motorla's internal code name for Charm. Would it work on an unlocked T-Mobile Charm running on AT&T?
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It's the deblur rom from http://and-developers.com/sbf:mb502
I don't think it works on T-Mo charms because the T-Mobile charm seems to have a newer bootloader which won't accept older ROMs like the Deblur one.

Charm ROM
Hi Guys,
not sure if this is helpful, got this link from a chinese website. my Asia Charm is running BASEM_U3_01.12.0_DEBLUR.
https://opensource.motorola.com/sf/frs/do/viewSummary/projects.charm/frs
Matt

eagerly awaiting for the custom rom...

Chahk said:
That's not entirely correct. He didn't crack the bootloader, he bypassed it.
This is awesome news. We should now be able to flash custom ROMs, just not custom kernels. But even without kernel enhancements there's a lot that can be done to make Charm better.
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why charm can root,Can not customize the ROM

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What's a general way to install recovery on a Z3?

I just upgraded to 5.1.1 and lost recovery, but I have an unlocked bootloader. I've looked for hours but can't find a guide for that version of the firmware. I'd like to install TWRP, but I'm not sure if it's kernel-dependent.
Does anyone know which version of TWRP I can install on my phone? Do I need a different version for each kernel, or can I keep using the same one? Where can I find it?
For unlocked bootloader quote:
Use the Kernel Builder to repack the kernel you are using now to replace the built in recovery with XZDualRecovery. Installing the locked bootloader variant will either not work at all or require unexpected operating instructions.
http://nut.xperia-files.com/?a=xzdr
I suggest reading a lot. I have yet to unlock mine. I'm shootin for Tesla's rom myself but am waiting (forever) on a new power supply and a brand new 12.5" tablet as well.
tweker said:
For unlocked bootloader quote:
Use the Kernel Builder to repack the kernel you are using now to replace the built in recovery with XZDualRecovery. Installing the locked bootloader variant will either not work at all or require unexpected operating instructions.
I suggest reading a lot. I have yet to unlock mine. I'm shootin for Tesla's rom myself but am waiting (forever) on a new power supply and a brand new 12.5" tablet as well.
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Thank you. I tried installing the previous recovery I had and went into a bootloop, so it's definitely kernel-dependent, as you say.
Hmm, do you know how I can install that? I don't already have a recovery, and that's the only way I can figure out that this can be installed...

New in MI4C

Hello everyone.
I live in Brazil and I bought at the Aliexpress MI4C Xiaomi. I haven't received it yet, but I've already started researching ways to use it with another ROM than the original. The seller sends the device with google apps and multilanguage option. So, he makes some modification in the ROM, and says to not update the ROM officially on Xiaomi servers.
I see a lot of complaints about the Chinese bloatwares in ROM and so I wanted to install one that was good, but nothing with applications in Chinese or unnecessary ones.
My question is: in this case the bootloader is already unlocked?
In the meantime, I sent my request for unlocking bootloader to Xiaomi and received the SMS containing a link. As soon as I get the cellphone I intend to do the procedure. There is a risk of bricking the phone?
I’ll do appreciate good links with how-to and good ROM to daily use.
Thank you.
The seller shipping a modified ROM and telling you not to update the official would suggest your bootloader will not be locked. For now only flashing the latest official China dev builds will lock your bootloader.
Getting pre-approved for unlocking couldn't hurt though I guess.. just in case. You might need to have a working Xiaomi framework in your ROM to register your phone once though. If your ROM does not have the xiaomi services, I would suggest either Xiaomi.eu or sMiUI as a ROM, both are pretty much stock MIUI with some chinese bloat trimmed.
But most likely you will not need to unlock your bootloader anyway. You will need to check your bootloader through adb anyway before doing the steps to flashing a new ROM. You will best be flashing your recovery through adb, the instructions can be found through most ROM pages or simply searching TWRP Mi 4C. The command to check if it's unlocked is
Code:
fastboot oem device-info
A very extensive directory can be found in the INDEX thread, first in this forum.
Logic_ said:
The seller shipping a modified ROM and telling you not to update the official would suggest your bootloader will not be locked. For now only flashing the latest official China dev builds will lock your bootloader.
Getting pre-approved for unlocking couldn't hurt though I guess.. just in case. You might need to have a working Xiaomi framework in your ROM to register your phone once though. If your ROM does not have the xiaomi services, I would suggest either Xiaomi.eu or sMiUI as a ROM, both are pretty much stock MIUI with some chinese bloat trimmed.
But most likely you will not need to unlock your bootloader anyway. You will need to check your bootloader through adb anyway before doing the steps to flashing a new ROM. You will best be flashing your recovery through adb, the instructions can be found through most ROM pages or simply searching TWRP Mi 4C. The command to check if it's unlocked is
Code:
fastboot oem device-info
A very extensive directory can be found in the INDEX thread, first in this forum.
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you cannot check the bootloader locked or not by that way. My phone when checking this, gets the input "bootloader unlocked: false" but I can flash other recovery freely.
in his case, he is using a modified rom, it means his bootloader is not yet unlocked. Right now, if he wants to come back to chinese rom, he should use Mi flash to flash his phone. If he wants other rom like CM13, he should download the latest TWRP and the rom, put the rom into his phone storage. Then try to go to fastboot to flash the recovery, then go to the recovery and flash the rom.
tuanhung303 said:
you cannot check the bootloader locked or not by that way. My phone when checking this, gets the input "bootloader unlocked: false" but I can flash other recovery freely.
in his case, he is using a modified rom, it means his bootloader is not yet unlocked. Right now, if he wants to come back to chinese rom, he should use Mi flash to flash his phone. If he wants other rom like CM13, he should download the latest TWRP and the rom, put the rom into his phone storage. Then try to go to fastboot to flash the recovery, then go to the recovery and flash the rom.
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Ah, that might be incorrectly reporting indeed. In any case when trying to flash recovery, if you're locked it'll simply fail and won't be harmful.
But why would you think his bootloader is not unlocked? If he's using a modified rom, it was probably flashed through fastboot or a custom recovery, both require the bootloader to be unlocked.
But even if he was not on a modified rom, stock Mi 4c have always come bootloader unlocked. Someone would have to have gone out of their way to lock the bootloader and I doubt any reseller would do that, they would risk a lot of refunds from angry customers.
I strongly advise against using miflash to flash any official rom unless you have no choice, since then there's a chance you WILL lock your bootloader. For now only dev builds are locking it, but the next stable release might very well too.
The first step should be to flash TWRP
The second step to stay away from Official China build
The third step to keep away from Official China build
The fourth st...
^ sorry my bad.... I was not focused. Actually I mean his bootloader is unlocked .
The safest way is flashing via computer, using mi flash or flash twrp image. You are right
1. Ur phone not lock bootloader
2. U can flash custom recovery...(TWRP)
3. "MUST" Stay away from official MIUI ROM
4. Flash whatever u want...sMiui, CM13, etc,etc
5. Remember Point No.3
***Btw, download official Fastboot ROM and keep it to ur drive, for just in case if u want to sell it again
Hello. Thank you all. I just received my phone. Great, btw. I'll read again and again all instructions and try. Thanks again!
Cadimarco said:
Hello. Thank you all. I just received my phone. Great, btw. I'll read again and again all instructions and try. Thanks again!
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Even as a last resort to getting your phone working if you did something wrong, please don't install the newer official roms, it's the mistake I did this weekend now I have a locked phone with a rom that has force-closes everywhere and absolutely no way back.
vletrmx21 said:
Even as a last resort to getting your phone working if you did something wrong, please don't install the newer official roms, it's the mistake I did this weekend now I have a locked phone with a rom that has force-closes everywhere and absolutely no way back.
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yes, or the safer way is always flash the latest chinese rom via miflash. twrp does not like Chinese roms
tuanhung303 said:
yes, or the safer way is always flash the latest chinese rom via miflash. twrp does not like Chinese roms
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No
No No
No No No
No No
No
No.
Don't flash the latest chinese rom.
No.
The only scenario where you would want to use miflash to flash a chinese rom would be as a last resort to flash the fastboot version of V7.1.6.0.LXKCNCK to restore your phone. Any later version will lock your bootloader.
If you don't care about locking your bootloader and the arduous process of unlocking it, you're easier off just taking all the latest updates OTA via the updater.
Hello everyone. Thanks for the help. In fact my bootloader was unlocked. I flashed twrp 3.0.0.3 and flashed the CM13 teamluminial, Android 6.0.1. Excellent. Thank you.
Hi!
Same scenario here..
I will receive Mi 4c with the Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted and the Multilanguage ROM.
But I have already received from Xiaomi after my request also the number for the official unlock procedure but now I'm a bit confused..
Do I have to unlock the bootloader once and for good with the official way?
Because I've read that the unofficial way isn't so secure in long term.
Do I have to install from the Updater the latest Cina Dev ROM and after that to proceed with the official unlock? Or it is better to use the Fastboot ROM?
Please could some one tell me in any case what to do ?
Thanks !
If you don't flash something that will lock your BL, no need to Unlock.
Ok first I must check the status of the bootloader to be sure that it is unlocked (via cmd control or cpu-z)
And after that can I choose an unofficial weekly miui.eu international ROM and install it?
Can I download and also update every week via Updater this ROM without issues?
At the moment my problem with flashing is that I don't have my pc (the one I have now runs win xp) and I don't want to stuck with the eventually malware or fully spammed modified rom of the reseller..
Which options do I have?
How does TWRP nandroid work with no sd card?
stillsober said:
How does TWRP nandroid work with no sd card?
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TWRP works perfectly. The backup is simply stored in your internal storage。

Update 6.0 mm full tmo & skinny debloated version

6.0 Marshmallow with insecure modded kernel and TWRP recovery​
This needs testing by someone else. It has been flashed on my own personal phone with no issues.
Requirements- Unlocked bootloader, Draken FX's Bootstack -the fixed version by Turbo2012 found in DrakenFX's thread for the flashable 6.0 update. Must be currently on an LG based ROM NOT CM. After install flash SuperSU install zip, post any issues. You will be able to ADB and Fastboot even if you can only boot splash screen with this kernel so you should be able to recover from almost anything multiple ways. When time allows I will put up a source built 6.0 along the lines of Game Theory's Katana ROM. Everybody is welcome to everything I post and I strongly encourage the young crowd to get involved, these phones don't support their selves.
Downloads:
Tested SuperSU
Working Bootstack for 6.0 MM
Update.zip
Instructions:
Flash Bootstack
Flash Update
Flash Beta SuperSU from link
New debloated version with insecure kernel and init.d support, rooted with Chainfire's Beta 2.71 SuperSU credit to SuperR for the help with the updater perms.
FIXED DOWNLOAD ALL APOLOGIES
Skinny Stylo Alpha version
Credits:
DrakenFX for his flashable zips and kdz files
Turbo2012 fixing and contributing
Chainfire for his SuperSU and he's been here since it started
Saved
Requirements- Unlocked bootloader
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Does that mean a fastboot oem unlock, or the OEM unlock in the developers tools. If you mean fastboot oem unlock, is that available once you flash stock MM, since it is not in LP?
PS - thank you very much for taking the time to pick this up. Back in the days of the Galaxy S1, I had a build environment setup, and a lot more knowledge (it is amazing that if you don't use it, you lose it), but I have a son now, so I don't have the time to invest in all the hobbies that I want anymore. I will definitely be a guinea pig for you. I am not actually aware of a way to brick the Metro or TMO versions of this phone since we have a kdz -- it is not possible to blow up firmware download mode.
runningnak3d said:
Does that mean a fastboot oem unlock, or the OEM unlock in the developers tools. If you mean fastboot oem unlock, is that available once you flash stock MM, since it is not in LP?
PS - thank you very much for taking the time to pick this up. Back in the days of the Galaxy S1, I had a build environment setup, and a lot more knowledge (it is amazing that if you don't use it, you lose it), but I have a son now, so I don't have the time to invest in all the hobbies that I want anymore. I will definitely be a guinea pig for you. I am not actually aware of a way to brick the Metro or TMO versions of this phone since we have a kdz -- it is not possible to blow up firmware download mode.
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@runningnak3d
I would prefer to be bootloader unlocked through fastboot oem unlock before doing any mods in 6.0. Every single time I did not I got secure boot error. If you make any system change on 6.0 with locked boot it will not boot.
Thank you for taking the time to do this.
:good::good:
So it's still not possible to update from Lollipop to rooted Marshmallow without unlocking the bootloader via fastboot? A secure boot error might as well be a brick to me. Oh well.
Revenant Ghost said:
So it's still not possible to update from Lollipop to rooted Marshmallow without unlocking the bootloader via fastboot? A secure boot error might as well be a brick to me. Oh well.
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The main reason I made this was because I can never boot recovery or fastboot manually ( ex. w/hardware buttons) when you have the insecure kernel adb works when at the splash screen so it's easier to recover if you have any problems.
Sent from my LG-H631 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Revenant Ghost said:
So it's still not possible to update from Lollipop to rooted Marshmallow without unlocking the bootloader via fastboot? A secure boot error might as well be a brick to me. Oh well.
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If you used Draken's guide to root and install TWRP on lollipop, your bootloader will be unlocked.
wrenchman76 said:
If you used Draken's guide to root and install TWRP on lollipop, your bootloader will be unlocked.
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You only need a "soft" unlock (enable oem unlock in developer mode) to root / install TWRP on lolipop -- no PC required. MM however, requires a "hard" OEM unlock, and that requires a PC.
runningnak3d said:
You only need a "soft" unlock (enable oem unlock in developer mode) to root / install TWRP on lolipop -- no PC required. MM however, requires a "hard" OEM unlock, and that requires a PC.
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I am currently on lollipop rooted and TWRP installed off of Draken's guide. Do I need to do something else to the bootloader before I flash this ROM?
wrenchman76 said:
I am currently on lollipop rooted and TWRP installed off of Draken's guide. Do I need to do something else to the bootloader before I flash this ROM?
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Yes, you have to unlock your bootloader with fastboot oem unlock. If you flash this without unlocking your bootloader you will get a secure boot error, and you will have to flash a KDZ and start all over.
Lolipop doesn't come with fastboot. So you have to follow Draken's thread to get stock MM on your device. There is NO other way. Once you have stock MM you can unlock your boot loader with fastboot. Once you have an unlocked boot loader -- THEN you can flash this if you want.
Waiting on the debloated version.
Sent from my LGMS631 using Tapatalk
runningnak3d said:
Yes, you have to unlock your bootloader with fastboot oem unlock. If you flash this without unlocking your bootloader you will get a secure boot error, and you will have to flash a KDZ and start all over.
Lolipop doesn't come with fastboot. So you have to follow Draken's thread to get stock MM on your device. There is NO other way. Once you have stock MM you can unlock your boot loader with fastboot. Once you have an unlocked boot loader -- THEN you can flash this if you want.
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I can vouch for this. That's exactly what happened to me when I tried to flash this without unlocking the bootloader with fastboot. At least I finally managed to ship my device to LG for repairs today. I'll just chalk it up as another lesson learned.
Revenant Ghost said:
I can vouch for this. That's exactly what happened to me when I tried to flash this without unlocking the bootloader with fastboot. At least I finally managed to ship my device to LG for repairs today. I'll just chalk it up as another lesson learned.
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You didn't need to ship it back to LG. Firmware download mode is always available (hold vol up while plugging in USB cable -- just vol up, not vol up + power). Continue holding vol up until FW DL mode displays). Then just use the LG flash tool to flash a KDZ. It is a PITA when you have to go back that far, but you can't brick these phones, not with software at least -- they would need to be physically altered
-- Brian
Revenant Ghost said:
I can vouch for this. That's exactly what happened to me when I tried to flash this without unlocking the bootloader with fastboot. At least I finally managed to ship my device to LG for repairs today. I'll just chalk it up as another lesson learned.
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You sent your device in for a soft brick? You should set up the flash tool for our phone with a 10j.kdz before doing anything. Hope you get it back soon.
Debloated version
Fixing some force close problems on a debloated version now, should be up later today or tonight.
@runningnak3d
Flashing the KDZ seems easy enough. But how could I fix it without unrestricted access to a computer? And my stock charger is broken without a USB cable. I had no choice but to send it in for repairs. Guess I'll be stuck on Lollipop for a while longer, at least.
Edubyah said:
6.0 Marshmallow with insecure modded kernel and TWRP recovery​
This needs testing by someone else. It has been flashed on my own personal phone with no issues.
Requirements- Unlocked bootloader, Draken FX's Bootstack -the fixed version by Turbo2012 found in DrakenFX's thread for the flashable 6.0 update. Must be currently on an LG based ROM NOT CM. After install flash SuperSU install zip, post any issues. You will be able to ADB and Fastboot even if you can only boot splash screen with this kernel so you should be able to recover from almost anything multiple ways. When time allows I will put up a source built 6.0 along the lines of Game Theory's Katana ROM. Everybody is welcome to everything I post and I strongly encourage the young crowd to get involved, these phones don't support their selves.
Downloads:
Tested SuperSU
Working Bootstack for 6.0 MM
Update.zip
Instructions:
Flash Bootstack
Flash Update
Flash Beta SuperSU from link
Credits:
DrakenFX for his flashable zips and kdz files
Turbo2012 fixing and contributing
Chainfire for his SuperSU and he's been here since it started
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Can you post links to DrakenFx post and will this work with CDMA version (ie, Boost Mobile 770 version of hardware)
JBoever said:
Can you post links to DrakenFx post and will this work with CDMA version (ie, Boost Mobile 770 version of hardware)
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Can the bootloader be unlocked on the CDMA versions (ex. Boost, Sprint, Verizon)? If you can I will make a variant for it. But if you can't NO.
I just found out that the unlocked bootloader in 6.0 survives even the .kdz flashtool. So once you unlock your boot in 6.0 with fastboot oem unlock you never have to do it again even survived kdz downgrade to lollipop and update to 6.0 stayed unlocked.
JBoever said:
Can you post links to DrakenFx post and will this work with CDMA version (ie, Boost Mobile 770 version of hardware)
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works great on metro ms631 just need wifi to stop turning its self off can you guys fix it! h631/ms631 mm kernel works find no errors help needed fixing wifi connection thanks

Question: Rooted Concept?

Hey guys,
I tried out the Android Concept MM when it first came out and i was a huge fan and insanely satisfied due to it's stock-like android experience, however the only thing keeping me away from using it is lack of root and xposed, however i was wondering can i just make a pre-rooted ftf with the ftf of the concept with recroot 4? like i would with a normal Marshmallow ftf or am i completely wrong?
I would appreciate the help thanks!
Concept ROM uses dm-verify, so it's unrootable on locked bootloader. However I've managed to root it on unlocked bootloader before somehow. I'll try to explain as best as I can:
1. Download and flash concept FTF http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/...arshmallow-t3229030/post66825447#post66825447 (this is latest one I could find)
2. OTA update to the latest version if you want
3. Download Systemless SuperSU zip and place it on SD card https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
4. Flash recovery via fastboot (it needs unlocked bootloader) (for recovery I used this one) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/z3-twrp-2-8-7-0-d6603-t3273996
5. Don't leave fastboot mode! Navigate with volume keys to "recovery mode" and click power button to enter it.
6. Flash SuperSu you downloaded earlier and then reboot.
7. Done, enjoy your rooted Concept.
Nojus33 said:
Concept ROM uses dm-verify, so it's unrootable on locked bootloader. However I've managed to root it on unlocked bootloader before somehow. I'll try to explain as best as I can:
1. Download and flash concept FTF http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/...arshmallow-t3229030/post66825447#post66825447 (this is latest one I could find)
2. OTA update to the latest version if you want
3. Download Systemless SuperSU zip and place it on SD card https://download.chainfire.eu/921/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.65-20151226141550.zip
4. Flash recovery via fastboot (it needs unlocked bootloader) (for recovery I used this one) : http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/z3-twrp-2-8-7-0-d6603-t3273996
5. Don't leave fastboot mode! Navigate with volume keys to "recovery mode" and click power button to enter it.
6. Flash SuperSu you downloaded earlier and then reboot.
7. Done, enjoy your rooted Concept.
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Thanks but damn that sucks, i don't really wanna' lose DRM keys plus i still have 1 year of warranty left.
Also, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/rom-zyxxos-5-1-1-v1-0-pure-stable-fast-t3229169) ZyxxOS requires a unlocked bootloader, however is there anyway i can replace the boot.img with one that's utilized on a locked bootloader ROM or will that not work
Salaminator said:
Thanks but damn that sucks, i don't really wanna' lose DRM keys plus i still have 1 year of warranty left.
Also, (http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/development/rom-zyxxos-5-1-1-v1-0-pure-stable-fast-t3229169) ZyxxOS requires a unlocked bootloader, however is there anyway i can replace the boot.img with one that's utilized on a locked bootloader ROM or will that not work
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Well, ZyxxOS has Sony's Concept based kernel. The developer itself at first thought it will work on locked bootloader, but it didn't. You could try to flash original Concept .2099 kernel, but I don't think it will work.
As for DRM, you can easily backup them before unlocking, but it's up to you.
Nojus33 said:
Well, ZyxxOS has Sony's Concept based kernel. The developer itself at first thought it will work on locked bootloader, but it didn't. You could try to flash original Concept .2099 kernel, but I don't think it will work.
As for DRM, you can easily backup them before unlocking, but it's up to you.
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I'm confused with the effect DRM has but is there anyway to avoid them? Like if i backup do i just restore them after unlocking my bootloader?
Ideally, i wanted to run a AOSP like ROM and i hoped to remove all Sony stuff etc from Concept, However i'm just reluctant to unlocking my bootloader
This is probably the stupidest idea ever, I have close to no knowledge however what happens if i put Stock Sony 6.0.1 Kernel which has already obtained recovery without unlocking bootloader and flash SuperSU via that?
Alternatively, is there anyway to convert Our current Stock 6.0.1 into True Stock Android
Salaminator said:
I'm confused with the effect DRM has but is there anyway to avoid them? Like if i backup do i just restore them after unlocking my bootloader?
Ideally, i wanted to run a AOSP like ROM and i hoped to remove all Sony stuff etc from Concept, However i'm just reluctant to unlocking my bootloader
This is probably the stupidest idea ever, I have close to no knowledge however what happens if i put Stock Sony 6.0.1 Kernel which has already obtained recovery without unlocking bootloader and flash SuperSU via that?
Alternatively, is there anyway to convert Our current Stock 6.0.1 into True Stock Android
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Maybe, but this is beyond my knowlege. Sorry.
EDIT: Or just use concept haha
Nojus33 said:
Maybe, but this is beyond my knowlege. Sorry.
EDIT: Or just use concept haha
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Looking into Android 6.0 Complications from this article (http://www.xda-developers.com/a-look-at-marshmallow-root-verity-complications/)
It states the following:
If you want root today, on Android Marshmallow (6.0), you’re going to need to use a modified boot image. While it remains to be seen if this remains true indefinitely, it looks likely to be the case for some time – SELinux changes make it much harder to get root access without modifying the boot image. And as modifying the boot image requires an unlocked bootloader
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So i'm assuming Z3 Has SELinux thus preventing us from editting the boot image for Marshmallow Concept hence leaving us with the only option to unlock out bootloader?
Lastly: Is there a potential to convert Stock Sony ROM into an AOSP looking/feeling rom?

want to root & use custom rom!

Hello good people i want to use custom rom !my device is idol 3 6045I as i am noob about this stuffs here is my query :
1. 1st i need to unlock bootloder using fastboot right ?
2. then i need twarp / custom recovery then my desire rom ?
3. what is the best rom currently available ? (my requirement is very good battery life, smooth & stable performance , don't play game that much tho ) i saw lineage 14 available in other sites but not @ xda! really love to use multi screen features ... @Unjustified Dev has 3 rom project i guess! which one should i get or should i try lineage 14! if i miss something please enlighten me ! TIA
1. Yes, Go Here
2. Flash TWRP and Flash the SuperSU ZIP IF ON LOLLIPOP Found Here.
3. 5.1 - PAC as I am currently using right now. Only minor problems are little to no freezes, And if you heavily modify the UI, prepare for some Double FC's here and there. Doesn't happen all the time. But if you feel uncomfortable CM 12.1 is the way to go.
6 - Lineage. Idk about the others.
(Oh, And by the way, do not forget to backup your modem! Some roms are not actually built on from your exact model but they all (6045 variant wise) work the same!)
Huskied said:
1. Yes, Go Here
2. Flash TWRP and Flash the SuperSU ZIP IF ON LOLLIPOP Found Here.
3. 5.1 - PAC as I am currently using right now. Only minor problems are little to no freezes, And if you heavily modify the UI, prepare for some Double FC's here and there. Doesn't happen all the time. But if you feel uncomfortable CM 12.1 is the way to go.
6 - Lineage. Idk about the others.
(Oh, And by the way, do not forget to backup your modem! Some roms are not actually built on from your exact model but they all (6045 variant wise) work the same!)
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i am on android M ! should my procedure be change ?btw i tried to unlock bootloader but didn't succeeded! after giving this command ""fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info"" its appear that "...failed <remote :unknown command" :/
ian25 said:
i am on android M ! should my procedure be change ?btw i tried to unlock bootloader but didn't succeeded! after giving this command ""fastboot -i 0x1bbb oem device-info"" its appear that "...failed <remote :unknown command" :/
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Definitely. MM doesn't have fastboot commands.
Huskied said:
Definitely. MM doesn't have fastboot commands.
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ok ! is there any complete guide about how to downgrade mm to lollipop ?
ian25 said:
ok ! is there any complete guide about how to downgrade mm to lollipop ?
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Any Custom ROM should work fine, If you have a lollipop backup then that should work too.
Huskied said:
Any Custom ROM should work fine, If you have a lollipop backup then that should work too.
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No i don't have any custom rom backup ! & if i don't use twrap then how should i install custom rom ! (pls don't mind as i said earlier that i am new in root & stuff thats why i ask for a proper guide TIA)
ian25 said:
No i don't have any custom rom backup ! & if i don't use twrap then how should i install custom rom ! (pls don't mind as i said earlier that i am new in root & stuff thats why i ask for a proper guide TIA)
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Follow this then. You will need TWRP for downgrading to a Custom 5.1 ROM.
Huskied said:
Follow this then. You will need TWRP for downgrading to a Custom 5.1 ROM.
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i tried bt after done with sahara & firehose my boot menu ( volume up + power button ) wont start @ all ! i have to switch off the phone to use it again & my phone performance is not super slow :/

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