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[Q] Enable always-on mobile data

I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...

cruzantis said:
I've checked the forums but still theres no answer on what exactly is and what exactly it does, its pros and cons of the 'Enable always-on mobile data'
I would like to know what exactly is that option what sort of apps get affected cause right now gmail still working for me with that setting off. The thing is some people claim better battery life some people claim the opposite.
Anyone knows official use for it?? anyone? I started to test the battery life on it to see if it helps in the event it doesnt I would say the mytouch 4g is the worst phone ever.... i hardly get 10 hours of battery life with the phone just sitting on the desk...
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'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!

juzz86 said:
'Always-On' Data tells your phone to open a data connection whenever one is available in your area, not just whenever you need it ('On-Demand' Data). If always-on is activated, your apps can connect and sync data in the background, unbeknownst to you. I got caught with it on my first phone bill, and it ended up costing me a good few hundred dollars. There are a few things you can do to help:
Settings > Accounts and Sync is your best friend. You can choose what accounts sync what data, and how often. The less you sync, the less data is used and the less time your radio spends transmitting (hopefully boosting your battery life a bit). You can also disable background syncing completely here, but that means you will have to manually sync your GMail, Facebook, Twitter etc.
As far as your battery life is concerned, under Settings > Location there are two options to 'Use wireless connections' and 'Use GPS satellites'. Having both of these ticked will use much more battery. Definitely untick 'use GPS satellites' and if you don't use any location-based widgets (like HTC weather) or services (Footprints etc), turn the other one off too. That should give you a bit more than ten hours
Let me know how you get on! Good luck!
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I got kinda confused here. Your saying that settings -> Wireless & Networks ->Mobile Networks -> Uncheck Enable always-on mobile data
By turning it off you get less data consumption per month?
More battery life?
Any dissadvantage?
By your post I assume that if its uncheked then apps wont sync? right now i still receive my gmail and stuff.

100% correct. Turn it off and you'll have to sync your apps manually, but less data and more battery

If you're using email set up with push, this option has to remain on. Otherwise, after a certain amount of time (5 min on most htc's), the data connection is severed and your push will no longer work.
And yes, there is greater battery drain with it on, and higher data usage.

Google Now and GPS

Good evening everyone.
This is a question that the 4 billion pages on google cant seem to find....
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
and this maybe a little off topic, but along the same lines;
I have a smart action "turn wifi off at school" and "turn wifi on at home" and it uses locations to determine where im at, what GPS service needs to be enabled for that to work properly, cause again I have all 3 services selected, and I wanna disable as many as i can to save power.

Anyone?

harecurtis said:
Good evening everyone.
This is a question that the 4 billion pages on google cant seem to find....
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
and this maybe a little off topic, but along the same lines;
I have a smart action "turn wifi off at school" and "turn wifi on at home" and it uses locations to determine where im at, what GPS service needs to be enabled for that to work properly, cause again I have all 3 services selected, and I wanna disable as many as i can to save power.
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If you only enable "Use wireless networks" and disable the other 2 you should be fine
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harecurtis said:
Good evening everyone.
with google now, should I keep my standalone GPS, VZW location services and google location services?
I want to know because right now I have all 3 on, and my battery is suffering from it.
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I leave Google and GPS on. I turn Verizon off.
I have no battery issues.
Are you sure it's the location services causing issues?
Check your battery stats and see.
Screen
Phone Idle
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For me, no location or GPS even rate.

[Q] Nexus 5 Mobile Data When on Wifi

Hi all,
I am having an issue with my Nexus 5 using huge amounts of my mobile data (T-Mobile) when connected to wifi even when I'm not using it. What's crazy is that this keeps happening almost exclusively between 2-6am when I'm not awake. It also happens to an even further extent when I'm connected to wifi at work and not using my phone either. Heres a breakdown:
11/12 5:48 AM - 27.57 MB
11/13 3:33 AM - 12.42 MB
11/14 5:15 AM - 14.21 MB
11/12 2:53 PM - 49.57 MB
11/13 2:39 PM - 27.97 MB
I called T-Mobile and they said that it shows that I definitely used my data during those times. I have almost nothing running in the background that uses any data and have turned off my GPS to see if that will help.
Anyone else having the same problems or have any advice?
Thanks,
Chris

Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)

jj14 said:
Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)
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Where can setup this prioritization? For example if I want the phone to use mobile data and override Wifi?

megakony said:
Where can setup this prioritization? For example if I want the phone to use mobile data and override Wifi?
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I may be mistaken, but I don't think you can do that on stock ROM at least. If WiFi is available, it will always try to use WiFi
For whatever reason, if you want to use Mobile data, you will need to turn WiFi off.
If you always want to use mobile data for a given app or want to use mobile data in a specific time range, you could use tasker app to set up a profile to disable WiFi when that app is launched (or in that time range)

jj14 said:
Only thing that comes to mind is that your wifi connection is being dropped for some reason, and your phone switches to mobile data instead.
About why data is being used at that time, it is very likely that there are some apps that are using background data - you may have disabled this for a bunch of apps, but may have missed some.
Check data usage under settings to see if you can identify the culprit (you can use the sliders to narrow down - though it doesn't seem to let you narrow down to a specific timeframe)
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Thanks. I did check last night to see what apps were using the most data and it was by far feedly but I'm not sure why that would be using data when I'm not awake. Does anyone else have that problem with feedly? Isn't it also strange that it keeps happening at roughly the same times every day?
Also wanted to add that I came from a Galaxy S2 running Cyanogen and never had this issue.

jj14 said:
I may be mistaken, but I don't think you can do that on stock ROM at least. If WiFi is available, it will always try to use WiFi
For whatever reason, if you want to use Mobile data, you will need to turn WiFi off.
If you always want to use mobile data for a given app or want to use mobile data in a specific time range, you could use tasker app to set up a profile to disable WiFi when that app is launched (or in that time range)
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I just checked my gf's Galaxy Young...in there when you go to WIFI and access Advanced and there you can set Wifi Sleep policy.
The options I got are "When screen turns off", "Never when plugged in" and "Never"...not really the options I'd imagine for this =)

danotoriusodo said:
Thanks. I did check last night to see what apps were using the most data and it was by far feedly but I'm not sure why that would be using data when I'm not awake. Does anyone else have that problem with feedly? Isn't it also strange that it keeps happening at roughly the same times every day?
Also wanted to add that I came from a Galaxy S2 running Cyanogen and never had this issue.
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Did you check settings on your feedly? It sounds like it does a daily sync which some RSS readers I'd imagine would do.
I don't have feedly on my phone, but if it has some decent settings it should have one to sync only via wifi or similar.

xShadoWxDrifTx said:
Did you check settings on your feedly? It sounds like it does a daily sync which some RSS readers I'd imagine would do.
I don't have feedly on my phone, but if it has some decent settings it should have one to sync only via wifi or similar.
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Yea I checked the feedly settings section and there isn't anything related to sync. The app actually only refreshes when it's opened. For now I went into the "data usage" section on my phone and selected "Restrict background data" for the app. Hopefully that works.

danotoriusodo said:
Yea I checked the feedly settings section and there isn't anything related to sync. The app actually only refreshes when it's opened. For now I went into the "data usage" section on my phone and selected "Restrict background data" for the app. Hopefully that works.
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It actually gets even crazier. Last night before I went to bed I turned off my mobile data by going to setting>data usage and it still shows at 5:19 AM that I used 43 MB of data. I mean the only explanation I could think of is I'm sleep walking and using my phone lol. I called T-Mobile and it definitely shows on their end I did use the data at that time. They also couldn't help me because they don't have the phone yet. Can't believe that no one else is having this problem. Guess I have to contact Google which should be really useful smh.

[Q] Wifi & network location unavailable after switching location off & on again

[Q] Wifi & network location unavailable after switching location off & on again
Hi there,
I found this strange but reproduceable bug on my N5's location services and was wondering if it's the same for you.
Turn off location via settings or quick settings
Turn it back on
You'll be asked to accept Google location terms
Switch to battery saving mode (only wifi & network, no GPS)
After these steps, my N5 cannot find it's location via Wifi & mobile network anymore. In Maps it might still show the blue dot but moving around it won't update. When using any other app which will try to get a fresh location it's a no go. Like Google+, try and make a post with location, no joy.
I have to reboot to get it working again.

Did you agree to those Google terms? If not that's the reason...

cawith said:
Did you agree to those Google terms? If not that's the reason...
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I agreed to those of course. If you cancel that it will turn back to device (GPS) only

Sander M said:
I agreed to those of course. If you cancel that it will turn back to device (GPS) only
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Strange. Are you running stock ROM? I had no problem doing the thing you described.

cawith said:
Strange. Are you running stock ROM? I had no problem doing the thing you described.
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Just got it 2 weeks ago, all is stock, locked and original.
Did you try any other app besides Maps? That sometimes uses last known location and shows blue icon.

Sander M said:
Just got it 2 weeks ago, all is stock, locked and original.
Did you try any other app besides Maps? That sometimes uses last known location and shows blue icon.
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You're right, mine also won't find my position without GPS. However a reboot fixes it for me.

Somewhat glad to see others having this bug too. Indeed a reboot fixes it right up so it's not a huge deal.
Under normal circumstances I would't change this setting ever, but when I just got my N5 I wanted to test the GPS only feature. After turning it back to Battery saver I noticed and started investigating what caused it.
Thanks for testing mate!

Sander M said:
Somewhat glad to see others having this bug too. Indeed a reboot fixes it right up so it's not a huge deal.
Under normal circumstances I would't change this setting ever, but when I just got my N5 I wanted to test the GPS only feature. After turning it back to Battery saver I noticed and started investigating what caused it.
Thanks for testing mate!
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No problem. I'm glad also to be aware of it now, so that I can avoid standing somewhere I need and it won't find it

Anyone else willing to try this? The N5 from a friend of mine did not show this behavior. And another did. Weird bug.
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I have the problem on my 16 GB black nexus 5 with stock Rom and no root. I tested with dalvik and art but the problem exist. I have found 3 solutions:
1- reboot phone (temporary solution)
2- stop Google Play Services (temporary solution)
3- uninstall updates of Google Play Services use with stock/no update (permanent solution)
one more thing; when I can't get a location fix with network/wireless GPS mode on Google Maps or any other application, I can see a circle on " Yandex Navigation" that shows my location.
but more interesting thing is I can see a circle that shows my location on Yandex Navigation when my GPS is completely off.
I think this problem is about Google Play Services or Google Location Services. I hope someone find a solution.

ymeksur said:
I have the problem on my 16 GB black nexus 5 with stock Rom and no root. I tested with dalvik and art but the problem exist. I have found 3 solutions:
1- reboot phone (temporary solution)
2- stop Google Play Services (temporary solution)
3- uninstall updates of Google Play Services use with stock/no update (permanent solution)
one more thing; when I can't get a location fix with network/wireless GPS mode on Google Maps or any other application, I can see a circle on " Yandex Navigation" that shows my location.
but more interesting thing is I can see a circle that shows my location on Yandex Navigation when my GPS is completely off.
I think this problem is about Google Play Services or Google Location Services. I hope someone find a solution.
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Thanks for your (rigorous :good tests.
Reboot was the one I used to fix it, didn't know about the others you found.
In a strange way glad to see it's a software bug, which means it's fixable. I guess the friend I mentioned has not updated the Play services ever, that would explain why he is not affected.

happens to me as well on a Nexus 7 (2013). I've found that battery drains faster even when in deep sleep

Me and my colleague also have this issue...
Completely wiped and factory reset to stock, same prob.
Reboot solves it until you turn location services off and on again, or go from "device only" mode to "battery saving".
A quicker way then reboot (reboot actually does the same as this step) is go to settings, apps, running, Google Services (you might have 2), there STOP the GoogleLocationService (it will stop and reload the service)
Location should work again in battery saving mode...

Thanks for that one Foggy79!
Reboot or restarting the google play services takes much longer (especially when you have to disable ADM first) then your trick of only stopping the only location service.
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Sander M said:
Thanks for that one Foggy79!
Reboot or restarting the google play services takes much longer (especially when you have to disable ADM first) then your trick of only stopping the only location service.
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No problem.
I just reproduced the issue on an other colleague's N5, that makes 3 ppl here in the office, can't be coincidence.
If the GoogleLocationService could restart automatically when you turn on "Location" and agree the terms, that would be great...

Foggy79 said:
No problem.
I just reproduced the issue on an other colleague's N5, that makes 3 ppl here in the office, can't be coincidence.
If the GoogleLocationService could restart automatically when you turn on "Location" and agree the terms, that would be great...
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It appears the issue is fixed for me.
I have Google Play services 4.3.24 so it might be fixed behind our backs.
Now when you turn the location off and on again, the GoogleLocationService is automaticly restarted also

Fixed for me as well with the new Google Play Services!
The new version now indeed restarts the LocationService again.
I'm glad Google also reads XDA (j/k)

Now if they can get GoogleLocationsManager and NlpLocationsReciever to stop running when Locations Services are turned off completely, that'd be great.
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improve location accuracy popup dialog

There are 3 location settings,
1. GPS, Wi-Fi and mobile networks – this lets Google use any of these to find your location even if Wi-Fi or location is turned off. When this is switched on, you’ll often find Google Play Services is one of the biggest issues.
2. Wi-Fi and mobile networks – this disables the GPS chip inside your Galaxy S6 Edge and is probably the least useful of the three options. Relying on just mobile networks and Wi-Fi will allow you to find your location quickly but will then use a lot of data and battery as it relies on your Wi-Fi and mobile networks to keep track of your location.
3. GPS only – this is actually the mode I use as it prevents Google scanning in the background (more on that below). It has its pitfalls in that it can take a while to find your location but the battery savings from not having Google scanning are plentiful.
We know that option 1 and 2 could lead to extreme battery drain because Google uses the location manager and wake up the device. When you attempt to turn on either the first or the second option, you’re greeted with a prompt from Google to “Improve location accuracy”. The option means that anonymous location data can sporadically be sent to Google even when no apps are running, and as a result, this can have a large impact on your battery life, especially when using Google Now or widgets that depend on location. If I choose one of these options I do not see the dialog anymore. Maybe I accidentally clicked "don' t show again".
How can I get the dialog back???
When I enable the locations, it is always set to option 1, even if I had 3 the last time. Anybody else have this problem??

Go to the settings in Google +

wolfloestoffel said:
Go to the settings in Google +
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I don't have google+ installed on my phone. What would I find there?

You can choose and set one of the 3 options to find the locations.

wolfloestoffel said:
You can choose and set one of the 3 options to find the locations.
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Yes thank you, I know that. But every time when I set option 3 and switch location on/off it is always set to option 1 again. Did you even read my post?

Go to apps, google framework services, clear data and cache. I has the same problem, not because of battery drain but because I don't want to do the dirt job of mapping wifi networks for google. I'll like to do it, but just if google ASKS for it

azerk said:
Go to apps, google framework services, clear data and cache. I has the same problem, not because of battery drain but because I don't want to do the dirt job of mapping wifi networks for google. I'll like to do it, but just if google ASKS for it
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Thank you! works like a charm