There are users here in Canada with Note 3's that have "Custom" in "Current Bianary" and "System Status".
This information has not been posted, I have NO idea why. I am guessing these people could care less about us (the people still in the dark).
I have only just obtained a Note 3 (Week ago) and I am trying to figure this stuff out.
We have a special Note 3 in our N900W8's. Apparently we can:
- Downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 via Odin 3.09 without tripping Knox (not sure if this requires the Mexican bootloader first or if we can do it with our Canadian bootloaders)
- Keep Knox at 0x0 with Custom Everything else. From what I see, our bootloaders are unlocked allowing us to flash our phones in Odin with multiple files (not 1 file mode as this contains a bootloader) as long as we dont include the bootloader (theory from what I have seen, and read a few times, no confirmation).
However I can not get an answer out of anyone who knows anything. I cannot just blindly flash and see if Knox is tripped, I'll only get one shot. Not worth it IMO.
Can anyone chime in on this? Is it acceptable to call members out? I know exactly who the 2 people are that have Custom everything and Knox at 0x0. 2 Torontonians, younger guys, doesn't seem like they want to talk though. Can I call them in here, is that acceptable behavior? Never done that before. Hehe.
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
I PM'd you but yeah, I'm Knox 0x0 on X-Note 12 right now. Sorry about that, wasn't home.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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That link notes that installing a custom recovery will trip knox. Could you please verify what you did to install custom recovery and still maintain knox 0x0? Will be very interested in your follow-up.
kiru said:
I can confirm. I used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2614772
I have a Rogers Note 3 with CWM installed and rooted with Knox at 0x0. My friend just updated his Note 3 to kit Kat (through kies) and rooted using cf-autoroot and his knox is 0x0. I haven't tried downgrading so I cannot comment on that.
I am planning to flash the official Rogers rom shortly and then root (not sure about installing a custom recovery yet) I will report back when completed.
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Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
bingbinghaha said:
Could you also PM me the procedure? Knox is really bugging me and TW is bloated with too many craps. X-Note looks awesome! Thanks !
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Actually, I would be interested too. Any chance of posting the procedue instead of PM to multiple users? If not, please PM me as well
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
kiru said:
I followed the guide in the link I posted as it is pretty detailed already. I have root and cwm recovery installed with Knox at 0x0.
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Second that.
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Okay here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tks73wZH3qg&list=UU2FLZg9YNAr4YAd0VEDDKGQ
You have to pause to see it at the beginning, and in hindsight, I probably have should of started in CWM, then booted into recovery, but whatever.
Set it to HD and pause it at the beginning, you can see my Knox 0x0. Then watch the video and I boot into the ROM, then back into CWM, all in one cut.
Cheers.
Same here
Knox 0x0 here, after a few good reasons to trip it
Android newcomer here.
I have a Bell Canada SM-N900W8, and it came with 4.3. Rooted 4.3 with Kingo (noob style) and that was just perfect to start out. Then the OTA came out. I unrooted the device, reseted with Kies 3 update to 4.4.2 and then Kingo wasn't working anymore of course.
At that point I decided I didn't care about tripping knox and installed TWRP to start trying roms... Tried like 2-3 1+gb complete packed roms (bootloops, probably cauz im a noob) then I wiped from TWRP, restored my OTA backup, flashed with CF-Auto-Root international version (canadian is another bootloop) and then flashed a CivZ kernel +stock-modification rom that I now simply keep clean with Titanium Backup and some apps y'all know about.
Some more info :
My version is VLUCNB7
My current kernel [email protected]
My current SE state is Permissive
Again, Knox is 0x0. Even after bootloops of custom crap that was crashing and I'm custom-rom, custom-kernel.
Two facts to finish that off
1) That's weird
2) I'm a lucky *****
Have a great day
What if I want to use a custom 4.3 ROM (just to get BT Tethering) without tripping KNOX?
The guides seems to push you to install the 4.4 ROMs.
I have the Bell version of N900W8.
Started at MI5, rooted de la vega, then wanted to upgrade to 4.4.2.
Used polishpats way of upgrading with the leaked 4.4.2, flashed all the AP,CSC,CP,PIT, then installed TWRP and autorooted, both with Odin 3.09 - no knox trip
Wanted to try X-note, installed it using TWRP, and no knox trip
Upgraded the kernel using TWRP, no knox trip
Did not like X-note, wanted to go back to 4.4.2, and reflashed it - no knox trip
Downgraded back to 4.3, no knox trip
upgraded to offical 4.4.2, no knox trip
rooted via chainfire and odin - no knox trip
now sitting at rooted 4.4.2 with 0x0 still
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
klau1 said:
Are you basically saying Bell's N900W8 is KNOX untripable?
I'm on MJ4 (UDLV Rooted) with remaining with MJ1 Bootloader
Since I don't want a KITKAT rom, can I just install a custom recovery (TWRP) without doing all that Mexican instruction stuff?
I really just want a 4.3 ROM with BT Tethering.
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Hello,
My friend has just the same phone as me, he bought it a few weeks before me, and he used his own techniques and got 0x1 knox tripped, so I just can't warn you enough : not all N900W8 are "untrippable"
...but...I didn't trip mine and I'm not alone.
Without more information you can't just say canadian w8's are untrippable, cauz they are.
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
klau1 said:
Well, are older the better?
I got mine the first week it came out.
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I doubt it.
Will look into this. I am positive all N900W8's are the same.
Surely your friend missed something or did something improperly to trip Knox.
Taking this all in. Thanks for the posts guys!
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
klau1 said:
@nexxusty
in your opinion, do you have to go thru installing KITKAT rom from Mexico if you just want to install another 4.3 ROM that has BT Tethering without tripping KNOX?
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Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
nexxusty said:
Klau you took the question right out of my head brother. LOL.
I am not sure... this also pains me as I want to try CF-auto Root right now on 4.4.2 Rogers.
From my knowledge of technology, I dont think it will. Not positive though. I am hoping you do not need to flash this.
I will test for us. Here is hoping I wont lose my warranty. Will report back.
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Flashed CF-Auto-Root, flashed TWRP 2.6.3.0, 0x0 still!
Now for the info on my phone.
I have done as follows.
Phone came with 4.3 stock --> Root De La Vega --> Flashed 4.4.2 Stock (Rogers) with Odin 3.09 --> CF Auto-Root --> TWRP 2.6.3.0 = Rooted 4.4.2 with TWRP 2.6.3.0 Recovery and Knox @ 0x0.
I'm not stopping here. Will flash everything DrawntoLife has.
Appreciated my man. Thanks again! Easy to Follow Step By Step Tutorial **WILL** be written tonight after I am done at a LAN I am already late for figuring this out.
Talk soon everyone! Happy flashing!
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
klau1 said:
did you consider extracting the ODIN package and leave out the Bootloader?
Remember we had to do that upgrading from MJ1 to MJ4. Reportedly, it was the newer bootloaders that trip KNOX.
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When I updated to 4.4.2? I did, but I was not sure if that would trip Knox so I left it in the package.
It's irrelevant now anyway, the bootloader in 4.4.2 Rogers is the one I am on now and allowing me to do all this still.
I suggest you update to it. Use the package labeled "N900W8VLUCNB7_N900W8OYACNB7_RWC". That is 4.4.2 for a Rogers Note 3.
I can safely assume you can flash this at any point and be fine. Even if you are already on a hacked 4.4.2 or something. There would be no issue updating the bootloader to the same version, would just overwrite it.
hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
Under_Doge said:
hello people of XDA devs
this question has probably been asked before on the threads but im new to forums so im not really familiar on how things works here.
just a question though, i am planning to root my samsung galaxy s5.
i know im going to be tripping my knox counter but my question is will i get OTA updates still if my knox has been tripped?
i want rooting for xposed framework, lucky patch, busybox and for nandroid recoveries
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You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
Under_Doge said:
Even with the latest os 5.0?
I used to have an s4 and back then no one has found out a way to root it without tripping Knox and I'm not going to flash any custom rom. I just want the xposed framework and lucky patcher
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You can flash back to kitkat and then upgrade with flashfire to stock rooted lollipop.
Newyork! said:
You will need to flash back stock recovery in order to get ota updates.
Why do you need to trip knox??
you can root the S5 without tripping Knox!!
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Really, and how is that done. I have an S5 on AT&T running 5.0, phone was replaced through warranty for a newer version of the S5.
Towelroot didn't even work on my phone when it was on 4.4.2 through 4.4.4
So if there is any that you know how to root my phone, please let me know because I've been looking for a working root since I obtained the phone.
Hello everybody
I want to upgrade to Android 5.1.1 without tripping KNOX. Is there a way to upgrade via FlashFire? I heard that is not possible because the new bootloader has a write protection (only downgrade is not possible anymore).
My current rom is G920FXXU1AOE3 rooted with PingPong-root.
Thanks in advance
Saafir said:
You can unroot and upgrade without tripping knox. Although the only working root method for 5.1 is a slightly modified stock kernel (to my knowledge) which in turn will trip your knox. And yes, you're correct, once upgraded to 5.1 you cannot downgrade without special equipment.
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I thought so. Hmm what if I try to flash the full stock firmware G920FXXU2BOFJ (DBT) over FlashFire with the EverRoot option and flash the bootloader via Odin?
Saafir said:
I can't answer that with certainty but sounds good in theory. Awfully risky shot in the dark though ;(
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Unfortunately it doesn't work. I'm stuck now on Android 5.1.1 unrooted ??
A downgrade doesn't work even if I repackaged the firmware file (with 5.1.1 bootloader and 5.0.2 system, kernel and modem etc). It stops while flashing kernel... ?
For those who failed to root, have a look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qL9qKbQa54 It helped me rooted my S6 with Android 5.1.1 and Knox is still OK
molanjami said:
For those who failed to root, have a look at this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qL9qKbQa54 It helped me rooted my S6 with Android 5.1.1 and Knox is still OK
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Your link is broken and i highly doubt it was legit.
There are still no known way to root in 5.1.1 without tripping the knox counter, sorry.
- Renolz
renolz said:
Your link is broken and i highly doubt it was legit.
There are still no known way to root in 5.1.1 without tripping the knox counter, sorry.
- Renolz
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Yes i also checked the video is no more on youtube . sorry folks
Will root s7 edge without installing twrp trip knox
Sent from my SM-G935F using XDA-Developers mobile app
haseeb.khld said:
Will root s7 edge without installing twrp trip knox
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It will trip Knox, because you are modifying the system and it doesn't matter it you also flash twrp or not. And once you have rooted your phone, there are no ways to untrip Knox, so you can say goodbye to your warranty.
TheSproker said:
It will trip Knox, because you are modifying the system and it doesn't matter it you also flash twrp or not. And once you have rooted your phone, there are no ways to untrip Knox, so you can say goodbye to your warranty.
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Well i have a rooted S6 and the Knox flag is not triggered (thanks to the leaked samsung service bootloader ).
So there is always hope :fingers-crossed:
clonednull said:
Well i have a rooted S6 and the Knox flag is not triggered (thanks to the leaked samsung service bootloader ).
So there is always hope :fingers-crossed:
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Well, unlike the s6 with the s7 Samsung has done some hard work to keep everything closed source. As of now there is no way to bybass the Knox flag and it is very unlikely that any workaround will be available, because of Samsung's non friendly attitude towards developers.
So yesterday nougat came out in my country
I was on noble rom s7e port
So i downloaded official firmware, reset my phone and flashed it
Everything work good but some apps refuse to open because knox says my phone is rooted
Now i downloaded some apps and they say my phone is stock.
I dont want to download any rom or root my phone
Anyone got suggestions on what to do?
HitSpecK0 said:
So yesterday nougat came out in my country
I was on noble rom s7e port
So i downloaded official firmware, reset my phone and flashed it
Everything work good but some apps refuse to open because knox says my phone is rooted
Now i downloaded some apps and they say my phone is stock.
I dont want to download any rom or root my phone
Anyone got suggestions on what to do?
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The fact you are on a s7e port which is a custom ROM means you had already tripped knox permanently, any app that required knox will not work anymore such as samsung pay, you can hide root via magisk and magisk hide, but just to reiterate once you trip knox it cannot b3 reversed
sofir786 said:
The fact you are on a s7e port which is a custom ROM means you had already tripped knox permanently, any app that required knox will not work anymore such as samsung pay, you can hide root via magisk and magisk hide, but just to reiterate once you trip knox it cannot b3 reversed
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I wrote im not rooted
Im on stock nougat
I just asked if there any way to use shealth and spay
HitSpecK0 said:
I wrote im not rooted
Im on stock nougat
I just asked if there any way to use shealth and spay
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You're not understanding what I mean, once you trip knox by installing a rom like s7e port, doesn't matter if you return to stock rom, knox will remain tripped. You won't be able to use samsung pay at all because knox is permanently tripped, shealth should still work though, I'm in stock rooted MM, so can't confirm everything