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Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Optimizer said:
Hi guys! I am switching from a GSIII to this on Tuesday and I know a bit about rooting but I wanted to know what is the main differences between being rooted and having a unlocked bootloader?
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Being rooted allows you to unlock the bootloader which allows all the magic that happens here. If you are getting a hox now make sure it does not come with 4.0.4 installed as there is no root for that yet.
I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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Nabeel Kiani said:
I don't think you have to be rooted to flash a recovery. You just have to unlock your bootloader and flash a recovery via adb command.
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On AT&T you need to be rooted to unlock the bootloader, as the bootloader unlock is not officially available. But on Rogers, you can unlock the bootloader and install a custom recovery, AFAIK.
In short, root just gives superuser privileges. So you have access to system files, can apply mods and apps that require root (but not flashed in recovery) etc.
Bootloader unlock is required if you want to flash custom ROMs, radios, kernels, custom recovery, etc.
So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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Optimizer said:
So I am on ATT and I got the one x shipped to me and it will be here tomorrow so there will be no rooting for me until someone finds an exploit I am thinking
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I'm afraid so.
gunnyman said:
I'm afraid so.
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Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
Optimizer said:
Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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That's a negative grasshopper.
gunnyman said:
That's a negative grasshopper.
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Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
Optimizer said:
Well, I am willing to donate to whoever finds one!
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You should politely ask Gunny to make a bounty thread. He absolutely loves them.
Smh
Optimizer said:
Is there a root method or a way of at least removing bloat to where maybe I can't have a unlocked bootloader but I would at least like it debloated... has anyone found a way for that yet? lol
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You can reduce the majority of the bloat in an unrooted stock phone running an ICS firmware by "disabling" the unneeded bloatware system apps by going into the stock app manager, then selecting to view all apps, then pressing on each system bloat app you don't need, and hitting "disable" in the app info dialog that opens up. Disabling the system apps makes them invisible to the system and the app drawer. Thus, they can't be run by you or the system until you enable them again. Thus, they don't bog down your phone and trash up your app drawer.
This works for the majority of the bloat that comes with AT&T. I did this while I was waiting for the famous 1.85 root method. It made my wait considerably more bearable!
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hey all.
i planned on getting my GS3 a week or so ago buy a family member on my family plan decided to take the upgrade without letting me know and now im stuck waiting for the next upgrade (comes in november)
i wanted to know if the current unlock bootloader method is permanent? as in cant be patch by future OTA updates?
i should have my GS3 by the end of this month (no later than the first few days of november) but i dont want to end up getting the phone then come to find that they released a OTA update (maybe official JB) and it patches the unlock method.
please bare with me as i have very little knowledge on how some things work with phones. im trying to learn. i have pc hardware pretty much down though (LOL)
i know that root methods can change easily with updates to the phone but not sure about unlocked bootloaders
thanks guys for reading and hopefully helping me out.
It could be patched, yes. However, if you unlock and install a custom recovery and never take an OTA, you will be fine. All you would have to do is be patient enough to wait for a Dev to release a safe version for you to flash.
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HHF2 said:
It could be patched, yes. However, if you unlock and install a custom recovery and never take an OTA, you will be fine. All you would have to do is be patient enough to wait for a Dev to release a safe version for you to flash.
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Once I get my phone first thing will be to root and unlock bootlader. I don't plan locking the boot loader (unless I had to issue with the phone and needed a replacment)
I'm just worried that when I can use my early upgrade and buy the phone it would be to late and a ota would be on the phone already that would cause it to not be able to unlock.
I should be fine (plan on getting phone on October 29th) but I don't want to be stick with a phone I can't install ROMs to. (Hate touchwiz) want aosp.
Valkyrie743 said:
i wanted to know if the current unlock bootloader method is permanent? as in cant be patch by future OTA updates?
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Nope, it could be patched in an update.
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You'll be fine. We have access to an unsecured bootloader so they can't patch that. The problem could be obtaining root. The current root method exploit could get patched and then another method needs to be found.
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I'm sure even if they did patch it, we can Odin back to original factory firmware and unlock again.
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You should be fine. Even if there is a OTA it most likely wont come installed out of the box.
Even if they put out an ota you can just use Odin and put older firmware onto the phone.
nothing lasts forever...
It will be patched but then unlocked again by the great dev here at xda
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Amaze209 said:
It will be patched but then unlocked again by the great dev here at xda
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They didnt unlock it the first time. It was a leaked bootloader that got it unlocked.
I have a rooted Verizon droid maxx. I am really worried about losing root if I take the ota. Is there any safe way to take the ota without losing my root? I've read like 2 posts of people saying the pro version of supersu and Survival mode keeps root. I've also read 1 post saying that they accidently took it and didn't lose root. Can anyone confirm this?
I would like to know the answer to this as well. I was just prompted for this update.
at that i know most users keep the root with Superuser in Survival mode
u can try and let us know
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at that i know most users keep the root with Superuser in Survival mode
u can try and let us know
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Considering that you cannot downgrade to a exploitable version of android if it doesn't work, I think I will pass.
Here is a guy that did it and said he keep root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52763259
I believe the one that did it accidentally had an unlocked boot loader which makes root possible no matter what.
I saw another post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52795898
Saying that the biggest part of the update was the radio which can be flashed without taking the whole upgrade if you are worried about it.
Me personally, my BL is unlocked and I'm going back to 4.2. I've seen nothing but negatives (bad battery life, FC's, etc) with the updates. I might would stick it out if there was some new features but they seem like just more of the same.
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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Khanusma said:
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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You should use this
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.dym.motoxtether
That way you don't have to mess with reverting it back when next updated comes out.
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Khanusma said:
I used survival mode and took the ota and still have root. Unfortunately I lost my WiFi tether and am trying to get that back now.
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I have a droid mini XT 1030, stock with root and wifi apk hack.
I removed the wifi apk hack, put super su into survival mode and took the OTA. Worked out good and I retained root.
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You should use this
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.dym.motoxtether
That way you don't have to mess with reverting it back when next updated comes out.
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Thanks! It worked great and now I have my wifi back.
My Maxx and girlfriend's Mini both kept root.
However, we've both lost TWRP recovery and can't seem to be able to flash it.
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My Maxx and girlfriend's Mini both kept root.
However, we've both lost TWRP recovery and can't seem to be able to flash it.
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Are you sure you're rooted? Did you check worth root checker app? Are your bootloaders unlocked?
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Caseyk621 said:
Are you sure you're rooted? Did you check worth root checker app? Are your bootloaders unlocked?
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Bootloaders aren't unlocked.
Yep, all root functions seem to be working fine.RootChecker says I have root, I was able to install the latest version of Busybox, and TiBu and SecureSettings both get root access.
Now if somebody had some thoughts on flashing TWRP recovery...
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Bootloaders aren't unlocked.
Yep, all root functions seem to be working fine.RootChecker says I have root, I was able to install the latest version of Busybox, and TiBu and SecureSettings both get root access.
Now if somebody had some thoughts on flashing TWRP recovery...
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I didn't know you could use TWRP e a locked bootloader????? Maybe use safe strap?
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Caseyk621 said:
I didn't know you could use TWRP e a locked bootloader????? Maybe use safe strap?
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Maybe I'm brain dead. I thought I had TWRP on these phones after SlapMyMoto, but I guess it retained the stock recovery.
Too many Android devlices... can't keep track of what's running what.
I thought the big issue was not retaining root, but completely losing the Write-Protection off ability (ie ability to use xposed). I'm locked bootloader and don't see a reason to unlock.
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I thought the big issue was not retaining root, but completely losing the Write-Protection off ability (ie ability to use xposed). I'm locked bootloader and don't see a reason to unlock.
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Not with this update Holmes. We're all good with this one
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Not with this update Holmes. We're all good with this one
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Awesome, one last question- did you uninstall xposed before installing?
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livinitwarrior said:
Awesome, one last question- did you uninstall xposed before installing?
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I did. But it saves your settings for when you reinstall!
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I did. But it saves your settings for when you reinstall!
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Then I'll take the leap
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livinitwarrior said:
Then I'll take the leap
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Boom. Do it. Lemme know how it works out
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Sorry if I missed something as I am a new member, but as title says, I've RSDed Droid Maxx to 4.4.4 and lost root, is there a way to root it again so that I can get native tethering to work again. Thanks!
Nope, you are going to have to wait until a new root method is released. You are as stuck as possible.
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itanas said:
Sorry if I missed something as I am a new member, but as title says, I've RSDed Droid Maxx to 4.4.4 and lost root, is there a way to root it again so that I can get native tethering to work again. Thanks!
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There's always paying for the unlock code, depending on what build you have. Got my code couple days ago and it worked. So much easier having boot loader unlocked.
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gfrrt said:
There's always paying for the unlock code, depending on what build you have. Got my code couple days ago and it worked. So much easier having boot loader unlocked.
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How do I go about unlocking a Verizon Droid Maxx? I assume after unlocking i'll have the ability to root it, which will allow for native tethering app to get modified and work.
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How do I go about unlocking a Verizon Droid Maxx? I assume after unlocking i'll have the ability to root it, which will allow for native tethering app to get modified and work.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2751177
For me I downloaded and installed moto x tool to PC. Don't remember where I got it. Just search it in these forums. Use moto x tool to fastboot flash twrp. Booted into recovery and when leaving it ask do you want to install su. Say yep. Bam! rooted.
Here's moto x tool it comes with trwp
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2477132
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unlock keys dont work for 2013 build dates of droid maxx... any other way to modify tethering entitlement file to enable native tether on 4.4.4?
itanas said:
unlock keys dont work for 2013 build dates of droid maxx... any other way to modify tethering entitlement file to enable native tether on 4.4.4?
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None that I know of. These devs are very smart though. They'll figure it out soon I'm sure.
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gfrrt said:
For me I downloaded and installed...east on VZW phones with a locked bootloader).
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That just runs the SlapMyMoto and WPnomo processes. I believe it only works on 4.2.2, not any KitKat builds (at least on VZW phones with a locked bootloader).
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Yeah I paid and unlocked my boot loader.
Then used moto x to install trwp and su for root. Also used it to get rid of that ugly unlocked nag logo and install that awesome xda logo.
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itanas said:
unlock keys dont work for 2013 build dates of droid maxx... any other way to modify tethering entitlement file to enable native tether on 4.4.4?
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Not without root
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Not without root
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So then the only other option (aside from waiting for 4.4.4 root exploit to get figured out) is to get Developer Edition of Droid Maxx? If I get that, is root pretty much guaranteed every time there is an update, including will I be able to root 4.4.4 and therefore modify native hotspot's entitlement file? Thanks.
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So then the only other option (aside from waiting for 4.4.4 root exploit to get figured out) is to get Developer Edition of Droid Maxx? If I get that, is root pretty much guaranteed every time there is an update, including will I be able to root 4.4.4 and therefore modify native hotspot's entitlement file? Thanks.
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Yes and yes
I retained root through ota lost native tether
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Yes and yes
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I just want native tethering back I took the update impatientley I know bla bla anyway I was able to retain root and have replaced the entitlement service apk that was missing after install. Phone didn't want me to copy but after going into the terminal and copying it I still cannot tether. Any Ideas??
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I just want native tethering back I took the update impatientley I know bla bla anyway I was able to retain root and have replaced the entitlement service apk that was missing after install. Phone didn't want me to copy but after going into the terminal and copying it I still cannot tether. Any Ideas??
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You lost write protect off. You cant copy it back. Try the method posted in the general section
I was able to copy in the terminal or at least got no error
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I was able to copy in the terminal or at least got no error
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Yeah and then when you rebooted it reverted the changes because you don't have write protect disabled.
bootloader
who do i pay to get my unlock code for my xt1080 maxx
See my post here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=54175639
Potential Bootloader Unlock for Non-Dev Edition
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I'm sorry and I assume most of you will disagree with me, but 45 dollars is a rip off to have my phone rooted. I've never had a rooted android but I had a jail broken iPhone and I did love it, although I would never had paid for it, I don't see why I would invest such a high amount onto something that will never bring me more than advanced customization(I'm assuming that all that root does as its all that jailbreaking seemed to do) maybe I'm saying this because I'm not a developer myself and I don't work on these things, but having my phone rooted will always seem as a low priority. If it were 5-10 dollars id probably give in because of temptation to have cooler feaututes on my device. Anyway this is just my point of view and just wanted yo share .
gfrrt said:
There's always paying for the unlock code, depending on what build you have. Got my code couple days ago and it worked. So much easier having boot loader unlocked.
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unlock keys dont work for 2013 build dates of droid maxx... any other way to modify tethering entitlement file to enable native tether on 4.4.4?
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Guess all us '13s are all in the same locked up tight boat at the mursy of the dev gods haha
...As I'm sure many others like me will visit this forum, read guide disclaimers, and still ask themselves "is it really true??"
If we accept the latest OTA (186.43.15) WITHOUT unlocking the bootloader, we are screwed. There is absolutely, positively, nothing that can be done (hacking, version rollback, etc.) with the phone forever. The bootloader has been locked and we're stuck with what we've got. No way to unlock it now.
So, is it really true? Please say it ain't so.
Yes, it is true, at least with the Motopocalypse method. There are other ways to bootloader unlock phones such as Sunshine, but I think that only supports newer Motorola devices.
http://theroot.ninja/
Also, you have to be rooted. If Towelroot doesn't work on the latest OTA (no idea if it does or not) then you'd have to wait for a new exploit.
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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TheAscension said:
Thanks for the reply.
What's most frustrating about this is that I knew it was coming, I knew the bootloader was going to be locked by the next OTA but I was too nervous to unlock the bootloader and possibly brick my wifes phone in the process. She would be pissed.
The system update notifier kept bugging her and I kept telling her to not to do it and eventually she just she went ahead with it. Ugh.
Crossing my fingers for new exploit...
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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Forget another bootloader unlock exploit. That was a once-in-a-lifetime chance. As for root, well, there might be, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Of course, that's what we all said when the first KK OTA came out and look what they gave us - Towelroot AND bootloader unlock, but the bootloader unlock was a mistake - they accidentally reverted part of the code back to the original exploit code. So, that was a mistake on Moto's part.
But, this latest OTA is the last OTA for this phone. No more updates from Moto so don't expect the bootloader exploit to show up again.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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Exactly what version of KK is she on? If she's still on 183.46.10, then that allows the bootloader to be unlocked which will then allow you to root it and then apply a tethering hack.
If, however, you are on 183.46.14 or 183.46.15, then yes, you are hosed and cannot revert back to 183.46.10 or JB.
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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She has 183.46.15. Only option at this point is to exchange it for a used one that hasn't been updated...
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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That's what I was afraid of. Same thing happened on my Droid X once updated to the last build of 2.3.4
I guess the bottom line is this: I don't care that much about the final KK build as much as I care about wifi hotspot tethering. That's really what I'm after. After her phone was updated to KK from JB it killed the tethering app that we were using. So my only recourse was to flash the phone back to JB. But I just didn't have the time to mess with it, plus it's my wife's phone and I didn't want to risk bricking it.
Near as I can tell, after quite a bit of searching, I don't have any way to fix tethering with this latest build. I'll ask the question in the Q&A section.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Not trying to hijack the thread and get it sidetracked, but just fyi, in case you didn't know, Droid X is up on CM11 now.
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Thanks for the heads up!
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Yup. That's unfortunate. Just wanted to make sure.
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She actually hasn't been happy with her XT926, so I think I might just buy a used phone of the same generation and mod it. If successful, we'll just swap the hacked one onto her account. I'm thinking Galaxy S3? I'd be curious to know what the "most hackable" phone of that generation is (JB or early KK)? Or should I post that question in the XDA General? I've searched and haven't found that question asked.
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
jacek607 said:
Damn :/ I just bought RAZR MAXX HD on ebay and I was sure there will be no problems with unlocking and rooting the phone. But the system version is 183.46.15 :/
Anyone in Poland wants to buy a RAZR MAXX HD?
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Did you boot it into fastboot mode and ensure whether it's already been unlocked or not? You might get lucky if they already unlocked it.
I've checked it - it is locked :/
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I've checked it - it is locked :/
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Bummer.
Is anybody working on method of unlock the bootloader and root for razr maxx hd with 183.46.15?
no
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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farid2014 said:
Do you know if is possible to go fron .15 to JB using RSD litle ?
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Sure as long as you are already unlocked.
Edit, I didn't see Rik's post, same answer, different angle lol
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Not possible if your boot loader is locked.
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I have the code : 3 that means I can down grade right?
Thanks