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Lower cellular signal on n5 than on my g2

I found this very interesting i usually get one bar at my house with nexus 5 and i consistently get 3 with the g2 still love my nexus 5 but just kind of strange
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The bars are nothing to go by really. You would need to compare db or asu in Settings > About phone > Status

Always been the same for me, worse signal reception on the N5 compared to my Motorola Razr i or Moto G....
N5 on the left and Moto Razr i on the right.
Both phones have new O2 sim cards inserted.
The N5 has been tested by the engineers at LG (nearly four weeks away for this testing / repairs). Nothing really to note on the engineers report.
I sent lots of photos with the phone and talked in detail with the people at LG over the relatively poor signal with the phone when using O2, 3 or Vodafone on the N5 compared to other phones that I have and what I would expect.
As good as the phone is it has been a let down for me with the strength of its signal capability. I have tried the different radio versions with no real difference.
There are times when it is really good but I just know there are plenty of other times when it is very poor compared to the other phones noted.

vimesUK said:
Always been the same for me, worse signal reception on the N5 compared to my Motorola Razr i or Moto G....
N5 on the left and Moto Razr i on the right.
Both phones have new O2 sim cards inserted.
The N5 has been tested by the engineers at LG (nearly four weeks away for this testing / repairs). Nothing really to note on the engineers report.
I sent lots of photos with the phone and talked in detail with the people at LG over the relatively poor signal with the phone when using O2, 3 or Vodafone on the N5 compared to other phones that I have and what I would expect.
As good as the phone is it has been a let down for me with the strength of its signal capability. I have tried the different radio versions with no real difference.
There are times when it is really good but I just know there are plenty of other times when it is very poor compared to the other phones noted.
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Motorola has been making cell phones longer than anyone....and radios.
Don't compare any phones radio to most Motorola's anyway.

It's safe to say the radios, or something in 4.4 have issues on the Nexus 5 regarding radio performance and reception. I can't say my signal is ever superb (t-mo MD); however I have often notice data stalls. Perhaps these are related issues?
I've started using Connection Stabilizer to resolve the data stall issues, if you check the logs you will likely see it working. I highly recommend.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.connectionstabilizerbooster

kj2112 said:
Motorola has been making cell phones longer than anyone....and radios.
Don't compare any phones radio to most Motorola's anyway.
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You might have a point. It is just frustrating coming from a phone(s) which has virtually zero signal issues to one which is relatively bugged by them. Sometimes if I see no signal, when it has been in my pocket for a while, toggling it into airplane mode and then off again will restore it.
I am, overall, most impressed with the N5, it is just its ability to maintain a good and strong signal over that of what I have been used to which is most frustrating. I did not realise how bad it was until I went back to the Razr when the N5 was with LG for inspection / repairs for nearly a month.

Just to add that when I was using the Moto G it had an issue too with low or no signal after it had been in standby. Thankfully they fixed that one with the update...
The update is version number 174.44.1 and it has been reported to be pushing out to US and UK models of the Moto G, but should be rolling out to the rest of the globe soon enough. On the change log is a fix for a bug that had been causing cell signal loss for users, a fix for low call volume, a wallpaper cropping issue, and a trouble with USB on the Go.
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I been complaining here for this on a very long long time
I even got banned 2 Times for complaining too much.

markdapimp said:
I been complaining here for this on a very long long time
I even got banned 2 Times for complaining too much.
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Why not just sell it then??

kj2112 said:
Why not just sell it then??
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I sold 1 of them the other Nexus 5 is sitting as a dev/experiment phone

Sometimes LTE stops working

I am on T-Mobile my nexus 5 is stock unrooted and when I'm on YouTube it will switch to h and I will have to leave it off for a few minutes for it to have LTE again I don't know whether its the phone or T-Mobile
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I don't get this problem on T-Mobile. What firmware are you on?
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I am on ktu84p with m8974 baseband it has been doing this since Saturday on and off I use a lot of data because my home internet goes out a lot but I have unlimited data with unlimited data it is almost like T-Mobile is throttling me but why I have unlimited

Could it be a problem with the radio I called T-Mobile they said that there is no problems on there end should I RMA it if that would make a difference or would the new nexus 5 do the same thing

It seems to be suffering other problems as well like awful battery life and it gets hot very easily all of this after updating to 4.4.4 don't want to root it again but either root it or get a new one

very little of this screen on time it never used to drain this fast

If you're on stock and you haven't made any changes, the problem is either on T-Mobiles end or the hardware. If you called T-Mobile and they said there's no service outage I would look into an RMA.
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I have ran into a few other problems as well the battery issue and it getting hot as far as I know it's a big problem I think I will root the next one when it gets here tomorrow

That's the N5 for you. I just got another one after a 6 month hiatus and I forgot how crappy the radios are in it. With my most recent phones, iPhone 5s and Moto X, I would ALWAYS be on LTE in my area. There is a tower nearby so signal strength is not an issue. Even outside my area, neither of those phones ever dropped LTE. The N5 on the other hand drops down to HSPA+ all the damn time. I have to toggle airplane mode to get LTE back up and it always comes back with near full bars so again, not a signal issue. I've had 3 N5's in the last 2 weeks and all of them did the exact same thing, and my original N5 that I got when it first came out also did it so it is clear to me that it is just a fact of life with the N5. This is a prime reason why I am sticking to Motorola from here on out.

Is it just the Youtube app or is it just when you start using a lot of data?

When using a lot of data I just got the replacement nexus 5 and it doesn't seem to be doing but I am on purity ROM I will have to see if it does it with this one

Your LTE signal is terrible in that screenshot . It's simply switching when apps can't get a good connection to LTE. If it's that bad, I'd save the trouble and toggle LTE off.
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And I bet if you have a strong signal, it doesn't happen?

Your suggestion works I get almost full signal h+

I have been noticing the same thing on my Nexus 5 on T-Mobile. If I am receiving only 1 bar of LTE I will sometimes loose LTE and it will never come back until I am in an area with strong LTE for a while.
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N5 Terrible Reception

Hey everyone,,
I'm in the UK, on 3, and my N5 gets terrible reception pretty much everywhere, mainly indoors. Was wondering if anyone in here has the same problem, trying to figure out if it's the network or the phone itself, though before I had the N4 and didn't have a problem.
Swiching from 4G to 3G as preferred network doesn't make a difference.
Cheers.

Indoors will be limited by the laws of physics, same for any network
Though there are simple logic tests to narrow down the issue further:
- Anyone else on the same network around you with same reception issues?
- Tried your SIM in another unlocked phone?
- And a different SIM in the N5?

Hey Eddie, cheers for the reply.
- No one else here on 3
- Works fine on my N4, no reception problems
- Not yet, plan to
Cheers.

I don't if its placebo or something, but I think flashing KRT16M radio helped my reception.

@DaaT
Don't go flashing radios just yet, won't necessarily make any difference.
When doing the comparison testing, best to use a signal measurement app, or view the strength in dBm in the 'about phone' section. Signal 'bars' aren't really a standard measurement.
If the N5 consistently gets lower signal strength readings with multiple SIMs compared to other devices, then more than likely device issue.
Good idea to still check with other Three users when you get the chance.

Hi Eddiehk6,
Not planning on flashing anything, phone's unlocked but not rooted and fully stock (used to flash ROMs left & right until a couple of years back, but since I've been happy staying stock).
I haven't the a chance to try another SIM in the N5 yet, but wrt to signal, I checked last night at home and was getting -100/101 dBm and 39/40 asu. Right now, here at work, I get 0, zero, nada.

Signal indoors isn't particularly strong for Three here in the UK due to the frequency bands they use for their 3G network. Along with this, they have no 2G network to fall back on and their low-frequency VoLTE-capable network is limited to a few devices in certain areas.
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dkconor said:
Signal indoors isn't particularly strong for Three here in the UK due to the frequency bands they use for their 3G network. Along with this, they have no 2G network to fall back on and their low-frequency VoLTE-capable network is limited to a few devices in certain areas.
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Fair enough, strange though that I never had issues with my N4, both at work and at home. Anywhere really. Checked last night at home and again, signal went down to 0. It's weird...
Keep forgetting to bring the SIM ejection bit to work so I can try someone else's SIM card Guess I could also open it and check the antenna connectors at the bottom.

Removing the Black Cable that runs along the right side of the Nexus 5 that controls the data connectivity and plugging it back in and making sure it was really tight helped me solve the issue. I made sure to tape it too.
As for GSM connectivity issues I had, i sought to using this trick I found online: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/hardware-mod-increse-signal-strength-t2842599
You also might want to unlock some extra bands incase: http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/radio-enable-lte-band-3-nexus-5-d820-t2928561
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The right side shows the cables you want to remove and reinstall and tape it down to the connectors. Make sure they are held tightly:
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Cheers for the info Furrydaus.

WiFi strength, range, and throughput

Rate this thread to express how you think the Google Pixel XL's Wifi performs. A higher rating indicates that it has excellent range, throughput, and signal strength. Like when you're taking a dump in the bedroom upstairs, do your videos have to buffer or do they come through without interruption?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Wifi appears to be on-par with other Wireless AC devices I've used.
Wifi tested on a 2 chain Ubiquiti AC AP-lite. Tested to a server in the same building (I'm an engineer for an ISP. We run the server).
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this device is faster on WiFi than my 6P was
Testing from the exact same physical location, using the same AP (Apple Airport Extreme 5gHz). Send/receive delta is consistently a time of day issue, my ISP is Google Fiber by way of Webpass, in Berkeley, CA.

My kitchen is the weakest wireless area in my home. MY Note 5 manages around 43mb/s on 5ghz, the Pixel XL was 51mb/s. Only one small test, but very promising.

Having an issue in WPA2 Enterprise wifi slowness.

NickOlsen8390 said:
Wifi appears to be on-par with other Wireless AC devices I've used.
Wifi tested on a 2 chain Ubiquiti AC AP-lite. Tested to a server in the same building (I'm an engineer for an ISP. We run the server).
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How close to the router were you? HTC products have always had poor wifi reception when one was not standing or sitting right next to the router. Samsung is the same for some reason. Apple tends to do a bit better in range wise.

desiregeek said:
How close to the router were you? HTC products have always had poor wifi reception when one was not standing or sitting right next to the router. Samsung is the same for some reason. Apple tends to do a bit better in range wise.
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When I ran the speedtest I was right next to the Access Point (It's not a router, It's a standalone Access point) About 5 ft away physically. Obviously there is an exponential drop off in speed when moving away from the source. But the Pixel XL appears to perform similar, Perhaps a tad bit better then my Note 7 did.

signal range is pretty poor for me. this thing won't remain connected to my 5ghz network to save it's life where's my v20 will and will get crazy speeds even with a low connection in the exact same room. in general ,the WiFi is pretty bad on the pixel and slower than my work s6 and my personal v20.
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NickOlsen8390 said:
Wifi appears to be on-par with other Wireless AC devices I've used.
Wifi tested on a 2 chain Ubiquiti AC AP-lite. Tested to a server in the same building (I'm an engineer for an ISP. We run the server).
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what are your router settings? I have the netgear nighthawk and 1 gig internet. I can't get anywhere near those speeds. Only on the laptop....

lucky_strike33 said:
what are your router settings? I have the netgear nighthawk and 1 gig internet. I can't get anywhere near those speeds. Only on the laptop....
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I get similar speeds on my Pixel XL pretty much everywhere in my house (covered by a 3 Asus OnHub Google Wifi mesh network connected to AT&T Gigabit Internet.) What I have noticed however is that speeds are slower if my phone is not connected to power and faster when the phone is plugged in. It is not something "flukey" ... I see it consistently. To get the speeds like in the screenshot, my Pixel XL would need to be plugged into a power source (and connected at 5Ghz).

Anyone else get notified every time you pass your local cable provider wifi out in public to sign in every time.I clicked auto sign in and still Everytime I can pick one up driving or walking down the road I get a notification to sign in very annoying

I have really spotty wifi problems with my pixel XL. Thought it was just my internet but sometimes I have a good signal sometimes and others its trash. super strange as to why it is so iffy, it doesnt really have a spot where it works better than others.

Does anyone else get lower signal bars than previous phone?

On my S7 Edge I always had near full bars. On this one(same sim card and service-cricket) I get lower bars but my speed is incredible and even faster than previous phone. I get a 8.84 MBPS Download and 3.95 MBPS upload which is on par considering Cricket limits to 8 MBPS. My bars are never full though or even close. Could this just be a firmware error?
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The one issue I'm having is constant drop of data ... playing online games I can see my ping range from 4 green lights to 2 Orange light a then back to 3 green.lovjt . It never stays in one spot which causes very bad lag...idk if this is an isolated issue...but I will reset the entire phone and such tonight to try and start "fresh" to see...

Opposite for me. Coming from LG v20, Wi-Fi and carrier speeds are much much better.
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johnwayne27 said:
On my S7 Edge I always had near full bars. On this one(same sim card and service-cricket) I get lower bars but my speed is incredible and even faster than previous phone. I get a 8.84 MBPS Download and 3.95 MBPS upload which is on par considering Cricket limits to 8 MBPS. My bars are never full though or even close. Could this just be a firmware error?
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The amount of bars really doesn't matter, it's your signal strength that matters. Look in about phone and status and you should see a range of -80 to -120 dBm. -80 being great and -120 being worse. Ever go to a football game or large concert and have "full bars" but a crap connection? The tower may be close but can't handle the amount of people connected. Sometimes they have COW's (Cell on wheels) that's set up to prevent this from happening at large events but still may affect you.
Anyways, the only issue I have is switching from WiFi to 4G it seems that my connection isn't that great until I turn on and off airplane mode.

You can get a app like signal check .... That will give you your connection in decibels..... That's the true bars ..... Sprint used to always show 1x as bars... You could a call and have no data
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car.los.7399 said:
Opposite for me. Coming from LG v20, Wi-Fi and carrier speeds are much much better.
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Same here, my V20's wifi and 4g reception was weak as hell. I'm consistently 1-3 bars higher and I've got signal in places I didn't quite have before.

Outbreak444 said:
The amount of bars really doesn't matter, it's your signal strength that matters. Look in about phone and status and you should see a range of -80 to -120 dBm. -80 being great and -120 being worse. Ever go to a football game or large concert and have "full bars" but a crap connection? The tower may be close but can't handle the amount of people connected. Sometimes they have COW's (Cell on wheels) that's set up to prevent this from happening at large events but still may affect you.
Anyways, the only issue I have is switching from WiFi to 4G it seems that my connection isn't that great until I turn on and off airplane mode.
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So then is this good? If so, ATT nesds a firmware update to correct the bars to reflect the signal. Btw thanks for letting me know that. Its a big relief lol I almost signed up for ATT's $90 plan. Glad I asked on here
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So then is this good? If so, ATT nesds a firmware update to correct the bars to reflect the signal
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-73 is a very good connection.
And as for your statement, not necessarily something AT&T will do. Here's an article for you:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.digi...-your-smartphone-mean-we-asked-an-expert/amp/

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-73 is a very good connection.
And as for your statement, not necessarily something AT&T will do. Here's an article for you:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.digi...-your-smartphone-mean-we-asked-an-expert/amp/
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That is an excellent article. Thanks for that!
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About the same to more bars on my s8+ then the s7e

Even that article has it, while being in the -7X range is really great signal, you "can" see signal near -50. I've wireless devices at locations that sit in the low -60s. So not having perfect bars is definitely understandable at -73.
Anyway you shoot it tho, the signal bars are worthless unless you get used to what they mean for your phone mfg.
This actually all blew up big with the antenna gate with apple (though I imagine many forget it now), where people would drop reception depending on how they held their phone. Their bars were worthless and you had to put the phone in a dev like mode to see it in dBm. Then you had a realistic idea of what was actually happening (if you were seeing signal drops or not.)
I remember putting my hand in the "death grip" and seeing normal bars on the iphone but you'd switch it over to read dBm and you'd do it and be at -119 to -120 which is bad. Would be -7x to -8x sitting with no one touching it.