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[Q] Need help regarding charging moto g

Hi Guys,
I bought a new Moto G XT-1033.
But the charging time is very high. Eventough it gets fully charged when I leave it overnight , The battery is drained by 6 in the evening.
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I have a Samsung charger rated 5.0V 0.7A , My Tab's charger rated 5.0V 1.5A , And the charger that came with the phone rated 5.0V 550mA
Here are my queries :
Can I can use any of these chargers so that I can charge my phone faster ?
Wll using them damage my battery ?
Does my battery have any problem ? or is it fine ?
Will leaving my phone charging overnight cause any damage ?
All help appreciated :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Loocking at your stats I would say you have something around 6h of screen on time, a lot of WiFi and the mobile signal streght is kind of weak.
So your battery is fine. And I seriously doubt that you will mantain such an heavy usage over time. Actually 6h of screen on time in 10h is absurd.
Do you have something like active display?
To answer to the other questions:
1 - You can use your Tablet charger. Moto G supports 1.5A chargers and they will charge your battery much faster.
2 - They will not damage your battery.
3 - Its fine.
4 - No, actually Motorola itself recommends this.

rmrbpt said:
Loocking at your stats I would say you have something around 6h of screen on time, a lot of WiFi and the mobile signal streght is kind of weak.
So your battery is fine. And I seriously doubt that you will mantain such an heavy usage over time. Actually 6h of screen on time in 10h is absurd.
Do you have something like active display?
To answer to the other questions:
1 - You can use your Tablet charger. Moto G supports 1.5A chargers and they will charge your battery much faster.
2 - They will not damage your battery.
3 - Its fine.
4 - No, actually Motorola itself recommends this.
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Hi , I tried my Tabs charger today and the phone is charging faster. But it is getting heated up extensively. The phone becomes REALLY HOT when using it.The Charge/Time ratio for the Tab's charger is 2.105 and that for the original charger is 1.090 . So the 1.5A charger is 2 times faster than the 0.55A charger.
In the end , The final charging is done by the original charger and the second last by the TAB's .
The problem is that the heat is unbearable and I unplugged the phone quickly. And when I disconnected the charger , The pohne still showed that it was still charging ! So I turned it off and left it for 10 mins and then turned it on again. Have anyone else tried this and had similar experiences ?
So I think I will stick with the original charger and buy a charger with ratings in the 1A range.

Motorola themselves say that you can use anything with 5V and more than 0,5A so it should be fine.
If it is overheating that much then I wouldn't use it.
Are you doing some heavy stuff on the phone while it is charging?
If you play games while it is charging it may overheat.
Excessive heat and batteries are never a good idea so avoid that charger or avoid doing stuff on the phone while charging.
Right now I'm using a 1A charger from LG and it works perfectly.

[Q] Does "Quick Charger UCH10" support Z3 ?

Sony announced Quick Charger UCH10 for Z3+ that's works with Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 as you know
Did any one try it on Xperia Z3 ?? and what are the results ??
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/
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If it's QC2.0 compliant it should work, since other QC2.0 chargers work.

There's been a number of posts about quick charge only being enabled on Japan Z3 & Z3c variants. QC 2.0 is supposed to charge to 60% in 30 min, but I've seen VERY few people get anything more than 1% per min.

PuffDaddy_d said:
There's been a number of posts about quick charge only being enabled on Japan Z3 & Z3c variants. QC 2.0 is supposed to charge to 60% in 30 min, but I've seen VERY few people get anything more than 1% per min.
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It's enabled, but Sony does not use it as aggressively as some devices with removable batteries. You won't see much improvement with the screen off and a GOOD 2.0A charger with a very short USB cable, but you'll see some. You'll see major improvements when running Google Maps Navigation in a car - many charger/cable combos can't even keep the battery steady, while a QC2.0 car charger will charge the device at a reasonable rate even through a long/thin (normally VERY poor for charging) USB cable.
Sony's charge rate cap is 1500 mA (0.5C) into the battery. With screen off and a high-quality charger, you'll hit this cap inconsistently (frequent drops to around 1.2A from the cap of 1.5). With a QC2 charger, you'll hit that cap consistently even with the screen on and a crappy USB cable.

Entropy512 said:
It's enabled, but Sony does not use it as aggressively as some devices with removable batteries. You won't see much improvement with the screen off and a GOOD 2.0A charger with a very short USB cable, but you'll see some. You'll see major improvements when running Google Maps Navigation in a car - many charger/cable combos can't even keep the battery steady, while a QC2.0 car charger will charge the device at a reasonable rate even through a long/thin (normally VERY poor for charging) USB cable.
Sony's charge rate cap is 1500 mA (0.5C) into the battery. With screen off and a high-quality charger, you'll hit this cap inconsistently (frequent drops to around 1.2A from the cap of 1.5). With a QC2 charger, you'll hit that cap consistently even with the screen on and a crappy USB cable.
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Thanks for the info! But isn't 1.5A charging capacity closer to the old QC 1.0 standard that came out a couple years ago? In order to qualify as QC 2.0, shouldn't the charge rate be higher? Is this why Sony does not advertise quick charging on either of these phones?

PuffDaddy_d said:
Thanks for the info! But isn't 1.5A charging capacity closer to the old QC 1.0 standard that came out a couple years ago? In order to qualify as QC 2.0, shouldn't the charge rate be higher? Is this why Sony does not advertise quick charging on either of these phones?
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1.5A into the battery, but don't forget that you need to power the device also.
Let's assume a battery with a voltage of 4.0 volts. Typical system power consumption when idle with the screen off and external power disconnected is 700-900 mA = about 3-3.5 watts. That's when sitting at the launcher doing nothing.
So now that we know the system power budget when screen on and idle, let's calculate how much power is needed to charge the device at full rate:
1.5A*4.0 volts = 6 watts. This goes up to around 6.5 watts at 4.35 volts
So the total power to run the system AND charge at 1.5A is 6 + 3.5 = 9.5 watts and this is with the system sitting at the launcher totally idle.
Also, typical switching regulators are only 80-90% efficient. Let's assume 90% here.
So we need 9.5/0.9 = 10.5 watts input
A 2.1A 5v power supply can only deliver 11 watts into the cable. Cables aren't ideal and have resistance, so you're going to lose power in the cable at 2.1A.
Try to do anything with the device and there is no longer system power budget to keep the battery charging at 1.5A. Also, see the above about cable losses? Every charger chipset I've seen backs off when vbus drops below 5.0-5.1 volts or so. The 2012 Nexus 7 dropped 200 mA for every 0.1 volt drop below 5.1 volts for example.
QC2.0 ups vbus to either 9 volts or 12 volts (9v in nearly all configurations I've seen, SHIELD Tablet is one exception). 9 volts at 2A = 18 watt power budget instead of 11. Also, for a given power delivery amount, there's less cable losses at 9 volts than at 5, and the system can tolerate much more input voltage drop.
Try running Google Maps Navigation with this USB cable - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Micro-USB-Cable-UUSBHAUB3RA/dp/B001AR4NC8/ - If you use any standard 5v charger, your battery will discharge because there just isn't enough power to even keep the screen/CPU/GPS fed. Use a QC2.0 charger and you'll see the battery actually charge at an acceptable rate.

Quick charge or not?

Does this phone support quick charge? I ask because 2 coworkers got the Blu and let me play with it. Might be returning my Nexus 6 and grabbing one. Issue is I have the Anker 18W quick charger w/led. The led turns green whenever a phone that is quick charge compatible is plugged into it, and stays blue when a phone is charging at normal voltage. When I plug in my Nexus 6 or my Zenfone 2, or my wife's S6 the light turns green immediately, yet when I plug in the Pure XL it stays blue just like my older phones. So does this phone support quick charge really? I see in the specs it states it does.

The phone claims to have quick charge. I've been using it since last night and if it had quick charge it's a slow quick charge. Coming from the note 4 it's SIGNIFICANTLY slower for sure. It's border line a deal breaker for me. The battery life isn't as good so far and the quick charge is slower.

Im with you on the quick charge being slower. Coming from using the Nexus 6 for the past few weeks, I can argue that the battery life is slightly better than the Nexus, but the Nexus would charge lightning fast, kinda made the battery a non issue. Im gonna wait until the battery on my Nexus and the Blu are both at around 50%, then Ill plug the Nexus into a standard charger and the Blu into a quick charger and see if there is a difference.

But does blu support the quick charger of nexus 6 ? I think it is silly that now all the phones use same charging port but manufacturers make different quick charge protocols.
You can install a charge monitor app, for example "ampere" from market to see the charging speed. All that matters is the mA charge speed. Quick chargers will charge faster from 0% to 50%-85% because they can pump in power faster into the empty battery, but they have to slow down as the battery gets full or too warm.

yurtesen said:
But does blu support the quick charger of nexus 6 ? I think it is silly that now all the phones use same charging port but manufacturers make different quick charge protocols.
You can install a charge monitor app, for example "ampere" from market to see the charging speed. All that matters is the mA charge speed. Quick chargers will charge faster from 0% to 50%-85% because they can pump in power faster into the empty battery, but they have to slow down as the battery gets full or too warm.
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I haven't gotten Ampere to show a normal drain value (0 mA is all it will display) and the charging values are all over the place (1.8A - 2.8A). I looked at various stories and MediaTek's specs on the MT6795 and there isn't anything about fast/quick charging. I think I charged about 40% (50% to 90%)in 20 minutes the second day I had it. It has a couple charge cycles on it now, though, so I will pay attention the next time the battery is low and see how fast it charges.
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I haven't gotten Ampere to show a normal drain value (0 mA is all it will display) and the charging values are all over the place (1.8A - 2.8A). I looked at various stories and MediaTek's specs on the MT6795 and there isn't anything about fast/quick charging. I think I charged about 40% (50% to 90%)in 20 minutes the second day I had it. It has a couple charge cycles on it now, though, so I will pay attention the next time the battery is low and see how fast it charges.
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I will add that I have an Aukey QuickCharge 2.0 charger and it only shows a 1.4A charging rate but the Blu charger shows 2.8A so there is probably something MT specific going-on.

Quickcharge 2.0 charger is probably incompatible with MTK fast charge. 1.4A sounds like the normal charge current. But 2.0 - 2.8A sounds right for fast charging. Perhaps the values are correct, it may be fluctuating. If I remember correctly, I saw 2.2A in my nexus 6 when it was 75% charged. (I should also check it from empty but I usually just keep it in charge so charge never goes under 50%).

It does fast charge using the charger that came with the phone.... If you look at the charger specs it reads 5/9 volt 2.1 amps.... Probably has a small procceser in the charger the phone sends a signal to that switches it to 9 volt charge

My phone charges very fast with included charger. I also tried a no name Quick Charge adapter ... also charges fast, but first shows Over Voltage Warning

The rate of charge is much higher when the battery % is low.
Screenshot from GSam Battery Monitor.
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My HTC One X9 chipset is Mediatek MT6795 Helio X10. At HTC India website, they say something like 'Fast charging (5V/1.5A)' which doesn't sound faster obviously and my phone takes 2 hours to charge. My Samsung Note 2 was still faster (5V/2A). Mediatek MT6795 supports Pump Express Plus charging. Do you think my HTC phone support faster charging (higher voltage charging)?

its been my expierence that using the included charger fast charges, but if i use a "quick charge" charger it slow charges... but if I use a generic 2.4A charger it charges fast... stock Samsung Note charger SUCKS on these phones

Golden Shovel for me, but I think there's no need to create another topic
I have the new Blu Vivo XI+, which came with a " fast charging 5v/2A charger", thing is my phone has the P60 processor, which supports Pump Express 4.0, thats 5v/5A, it's ridiculous that Blu is shipping a common charger with a processor capable of such fast charging, anyone knows if the technology must be enabled on the phone itself, or if I just buy a 5v/5a charger it will work?

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Mi 9 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Really want to know what protocol of the optional 27W wired charger (MDY-10-EH)
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If uou want the info on the Mi 9 power supply. Seems QC4+ but only paid licencing for QC3

So are other 27W chargers (like this: https://www.amazon.de/AUKEY-Ladeger...?ie=UTF8&qid=1552148377&sr=8-1&keywords=PA-Y8) working aswell?

memocatcher said:
So are other 27W chargers (like this: https://www.amazon.de/AUKEY-Ladeger...?ie=UTF8&qid=1552148377&sr=8-1&keywords=PA-Y8) working aswell?
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If you don't already have one why bother buying it?
For that money you buy the 20W wireless charging pad + cable + original 27W Xiaomi charger set from Ali. - LINK

I charged yesterday, from 1% to 100 % within 61 minutes. Box charger (chineese). Phone was ON, screen was off, I checked the level of charge a couple of times, but I doubt that it would charge quicker without it. I am thinking of checking on a phone OFF, how much will be the difference.

Seems OnePlus Dash charging is a lil bit faster.

I've got a 27 watt Motorola charger which is £20 quid on Amazon. Much faster than the 1 included in the box. For the money the Xiaomi is virtually flawless.

memocatcher said:
So are other 27W chargers (like this: https://www.amazon.de/AUKEY-Ladeger...ie=UTF8&qid=1552148377&sr=8-1&keywords=PA-Y8) working aswell?
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It should

I've measured the charging with the supplied 18W charger, and (at least mine) charges with 20W total, which I find super. So, with the same 18W charger, MI9 charges about 10% faster than my MI 8.
It takes less than an hour for full charge (from 3%).
So, I think I do not need the (very expensive) 27W one.

Fast charge

after miui 12 and edl flash there is no fast charging available so tried to check the cable and adaptor.
Interesting! with a Samsung fast charger adaptor my phone didn't charge. . . and stopped working.
so I am confused is it a firmware bug or a faulty adaptor or e.g phone has malfunction or etc?

My phone takes around 90 minutes with the 18W charger, which is pretty good coming from a P9 Lite without fast charging capabilities at all!

Quick Charging with Aftermarket Chargers?

I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?

I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?

Helhound0 said:
Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?
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Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
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Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What charger is that? Mind sending me a link, sounds interesting... Weird though, TURBO CHARGE ?
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Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused
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Sketchy as it is used for marking 30W wireless and 100W wired I believe. Mind using an app that checks the reall wattage speed? Maybe (Ampere)?

Redmi Note 8 Pro uses Type-C interface, and the data transmission standard is USB2.0. Supports Quick charge4 + fast charge protocol, USB Power Delivery (USB PD) fast charge protocol, MediaTek Pump Express 2.0, 4.0.

Give me link for charger Turbo plisss

For me the pixel 2xls charger is showing turbo charging screen as posted above.. charging at 3300 to 3500 mah on accubattery..
For the Stock charger it never went above 3000mah

On stock have 2400 max that way need New charger

I use "Baseus adapter 30W" its quick charge if you use usb cable to tpye c, but this charger use turbo charge if use type c to type c cable
i compare this adapter with stock adapter
this time im compare with app battrey log
fast charging Usb to tpye C (Stock cable)
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stock adapter
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start time : 17:27
percentage : 14%
Stop time : 19:24
Percentage : 97% .
Total Time : 1h 57m
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Baseus charger adapter 30W
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Start time : 09:24
Percentage 14%
Stop Time 11:11
Percentage : 97%
Total Time : 1h 47m
there is a difference of 10 minutes with a stock adapter

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What`s the brand/model number of this charger please.
Thanks.

Helhound0 said:
I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?
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My Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 charger shows quick charge. It's one from Hama I got a couple months ago for about 20-30 quid. I am pretty sure any QQC 3.0 charger will work

So is it beneficial to go for aftermarket chargers, specially while using custom roms?