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Nexus 5 doesn't take advantage of "Quick Charge"?

People are saying the phone takes 1:50-2:00 hours to charge with a 2300 mah , the LG G2 which also has a snapdragon 800 takes around 1:30 to charge with a considerably larger 3000 mah battery , the nexus 5 comes with a 1.2A charger ( the G2 comes with 1.8A charger) so maybe that's the reason, but does it support quick charge at all? Google/LG just decided to save some cents and threw a cheaper charger on the box? If I buy a 2.0A charger would I be able to use it and would the phone charge noticeably faster?

Most probably Not.
I think the Situation is a different too. LG uses its newly invented battery Type with enhanced Features. including massively improved recharging cycles.
Goggle does Not. and its known to batteries. the faster you load the quicker they die. no matter what they say. even eneloops are prooven to die much quicker when generally loaded at Max speed.
I have a Sony Tablet z charger with 1500mAh loading and a Asus me 301t loader with 2000mAh loading speed.
After some cycles I'll try them to See any difference but im sure there wont be.
DONT USE ANY FAST CHARGERS WITHIN THE FIRST (Minimum THREE) CHARGES.
Not to Do so is said to seriously harm any battery.

DJ-Tumor said:
Most probably Not.
I think the Situation is a different too. LG uses its newly invented battery Type with enhanced Features. including massively improved recharging cycles.
Goggle does Not. and its known to batteries. the faster you load the quicker they die. no matter what they say. even eneloops are prooven to die much quicker when generally loaded at Max speed.
I have a Sony Tablet z charger with 1500mAh loading and a Asus me 301t loader with 2000mAh loading speed.
After some cycles I'll try them to See any difference but im sure there wont be.
DONT USE ANY FAST CHARGERS WITHIN THE FIRST (Minimum THREE) CHARGES.
Not to Do so is said to seriously harm any battery.
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If a quick charger could harm the battery it could also charge the phone quicker which it won't because the phone regulates the battery charging process and doesn't really care if the charger is able to output >1.2A . It would make a difference if you charge your phone on a <1.2A charger of course.
If it wouldn't work that way you couldn't charge a friends 3 year old Smartphone on your wall charger

My old HTC Desire S 1450mah battery used to take 2.5-3 hours to charge. My N5 takes around 2 hours.

That is why I said it most probably won´t make any difference too.
Usually phones do limit the charging power. I don´t know any device that does not. But I would be carefull with this chinese stuff
This is why my Galaxy Note wont charge any faster than with its original charger at 1000mah.
It is even possible that the Nexus only loads at 1000mah and the loader hast a little backup. But not very likely either.
When it comes to my Note...when I remove the battery there is a sticker where it is stated what is used:
5VA 1000mah.
So we can´t do that with our nexus
Grab your (Handbuch) User manual and look up if there is any information about it.
The quick charger thing...correct...I may have gone little overboard with my warning thinking myself it wont make a difference.
But you really should keep that in mind for your mignons ect.

Quick charge is built into the Snapdragon 800 processor. Qualcomm announces it like a feature but no manufacturer uses it, probably because the N5 is only the third phone to come packing the S800. It'll be up to Qualcomm to release a patch (like they said they would) so that we can utilize the quick charge feature.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
Interestingly, none of these announcements address the effect on battery capacity long term
sent from my Nexus 7✌

Would suck if they have not included quick charge...

Chad_Petree said:
People are saying the phone takes 1:50-2:00 hours to charge with a 2300 mah , the LG G2 which also has a snapdragon 800 takes around 1:30 to charge with a considerably larger 3000 mah battery , the nexus 5 comes with a 1.2A charger ( the G2 comes with 1.8A charger) so maybe that's the reason, but does it support quick charge at all? Google/LG just decided to save some cents and threw a cheaper charger on the box? If I buy a 2.0A charger would I be able to use it and would the phone charge noticeably faster?
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I refer to my (non-scientific) test conducted using the G2, S4 and N5 for charging performance. They're all pretty much the same, but the G2 was the fastest to charge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507405&page=2
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I let all the phones run down overnight to 0% using the battery drain app from Play store. I then used the charger and cable that came with each device, here are the results - interesting test.
N5 - 2,300mah battery, 5.6V / 1.2A charger
S4 - 2,600mah battery, 5.0V / 2.0A charger
G2 - 3,000mah battery, 5.0V / 1.8A charger
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Hi
Looking at the service manual the charging is handled by a Texas Instruments chip http://www.ti.com/product/bq24192. QuickCharge is a function of the Qualcom PM8941 power management chip, however as the Qualcom chip isn't charging the battery (the BQ24192 is doing this) then QuickCharge can't be implemented by a firmware update.
Regards
Phil

only thing speaking for a stronger charger would be the parallel usage of the device while charging it.
at least in my Imagination. dont Know if its technically possible if that could make a difference, but i think so.
charging my Xperia z is much quicker if i dont Touch it while its charging.

PhilipL said:
Hi
Looking at the service manual the charging is handled by a Texas Instruments chip http://www.ti.com/product/bq24192. QuickCharge is a function of the Qualcom PM8941 power management chip, however as the Qualcom chip isn't charging the battery (the BQ24192 is doing this) then QuickCharge can't be implemented by a firmware update.
Regards
Phil
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But how come the LG G2 have Quick Charge then?

My N5 charges pretty quickly compared to any of the phones I've had in the past.

per specs, Nexus 5 is Quickcharge 1.0 only. No 2.0 support.

alexktz said:
I refer to my (non-scientific) test conducted using the G2, S4 and N5 for charging performance. They're all pretty much the same, but the G2 was the fastest to charge.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507405&page=2
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Thanks for sacrificing your batteries in the name of science. Apparently, running a lithium battery down to 0% is a no-no and will decrease the lifespan and capacity so should be limited...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1169979
But then, I'd hope that they built in a 0% that is above that threshold. So maybe it's NOT a concern. Perhaps leaving the battery discharged for a month might drop it down that low, but that would mean you're on to your next device and battery.
Cheers, maybe I should just delete this post and not even send it. Nah...

where is quick charge in the menu? I can't find it o_o

The NX5 will NEVER have quick charge. It charges using TI's charging stuff. Therefore it will never work. Look it up. I'm not gonna bother looking it up again. I was disappointed when I saw that when it was first released.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk

Dragn4rce said:
The NX5 will NEVER have quick charge. It charges using TI's charging stuff. Therefore it will never work. Look it up. I'm not gonna bother looking it up again. I was disappointed when I saw that when it was first released.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
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It's Texas instruments latest ic charge controller it has better efficiency for faster charging and has battery monitoring sections that are improved
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littleguevara said:
Quick charge is built into the Snapdragon 800 processor. Qualcomm announces it like a feature but no manufacturer uses it, probably because the N5 is only the third phone to come packing the S800. It'll be up to Qualcomm to release a patch (like they said they would) so that we can utilize the quick charge feature.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/2/20/4...ers-75-percent-faster-charging-snapdragon-800
Interestingly, none of these announcements address the effect on battery capacity long term
sent from my Nexus 7✌
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Thanks. I thought it was an option somewhere I had to enable to make it charge faster. so it's just a passive hardware thing?

So you want to say that this is not fast charging? Barely used though, but powered on.
Sent from my Nexus 5

Sn00ky said:
So you want to say that this is not fast charging? Barely used though, but powered on.
Sent from my Nexus 5
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It's quicker than the Nexus 4 for example but is nowhere near the LG G2 which does have quick charge and it takes the phone 1:30 hours to charge a 3000 may battery...
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[Q] Does "Quick Charger UCH10" support Z3 ?

Sony announced Quick Charger UCH10 for Z3+ that's works with Qualcomm quick charge 2.0 as you know
Did any one try it on Xperia Z3 ?? and what are the results ??
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch10/
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If it's QC2.0 compliant it should work, since other QC2.0 chargers work.

There's been a number of posts about quick charge only being enabled on Japan Z3 & Z3c variants. QC 2.0 is supposed to charge to 60% in 30 min, but I've seen VERY few people get anything more than 1% per min.

PuffDaddy_d said:
There's been a number of posts about quick charge only being enabled on Japan Z3 & Z3c variants. QC 2.0 is supposed to charge to 60% in 30 min, but I've seen VERY few people get anything more than 1% per min.
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It's enabled, but Sony does not use it as aggressively as some devices with removable batteries. You won't see much improvement with the screen off and a GOOD 2.0A charger with a very short USB cable, but you'll see some. You'll see major improvements when running Google Maps Navigation in a car - many charger/cable combos can't even keep the battery steady, while a QC2.0 car charger will charge the device at a reasonable rate even through a long/thin (normally VERY poor for charging) USB cable.
Sony's charge rate cap is 1500 mA (0.5C) into the battery. With screen off and a high-quality charger, you'll hit this cap inconsistently (frequent drops to around 1.2A from the cap of 1.5). With a QC2 charger, you'll hit that cap consistently even with the screen on and a crappy USB cable.

Entropy512 said:
It's enabled, but Sony does not use it as aggressively as some devices with removable batteries. You won't see much improvement with the screen off and a GOOD 2.0A charger with a very short USB cable, but you'll see some. You'll see major improvements when running Google Maps Navigation in a car - many charger/cable combos can't even keep the battery steady, while a QC2.0 car charger will charge the device at a reasonable rate even through a long/thin (normally VERY poor for charging) USB cable.
Sony's charge rate cap is 1500 mA (0.5C) into the battery. With screen off and a high-quality charger, you'll hit this cap inconsistently (frequent drops to around 1.2A from the cap of 1.5). With a QC2 charger, you'll hit that cap consistently even with the screen on and a crappy USB cable.
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Thanks for the info! But isn't 1.5A charging capacity closer to the old QC 1.0 standard that came out a couple years ago? In order to qualify as QC 2.0, shouldn't the charge rate be higher? Is this why Sony does not advertise quick charging on either of these phones?

PuffDaddy_d said:
Thanks for the info! But isn't 1.5A charging capacity closer to the old QC 1.0 standard that came out a couple years ago? In order to qualify as QC 2.0, shouldn't the charge rate be higher? Is this why Sony does not advertise quick charging on either of these phones?
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1.5A into the battery, but don't forget that you need to power the device also.
Let's assume a battery with a voltage of 4.0 volts. Typical system power consumption when idle with the screen off and external power disconnected is 700-900 mA = about 3-3.5 watts. That's when sitting at the launcher doing nothing.
So now that we know the system power budget when screen on and idle, let's calculate how much power is needed to charge the device at full rate:
1.5A*4.0 volts = 6 watts. This goes up to around 6.5 watts at 4.35 volts
So the total power to run the system AND charge at 1.5A is 6 + 3.5 = 9.5 watts and this is with the system sitting at the launcher totally idle.
Also, typical switching regulators are only 80-90% efficient. Let's assume 90% here.
So we need 9.5/0.9 = 10.5 watts input
A 2.1A 5v power supply can only deliver 11 watts into the cable. Cables aren't ideal and have resistance, so you're going to lose power in the cable at 2.1A.
Try to do anything with the device and there is no longer system power budget to keep the battery charging at 1.5A. Also, see the above about cable losses? Every charger chipset I've seen backs off when vbus drops below 5.0-5.1 volts or so. The 2012 Nexus 7 dropped 200 mA for every 0.1 volt drop below 5.1 volts for example.
QC2.0 ups vbus to either 9 volts or 12 volts (9v in nearly all configurations I've seen, SHIELD Tablet is one exception). 9 volts at 2A = 18 watt power budget instead of 11. Also, for a given power delivery amount, there's less cable losses at 9 volts than at 5, and the system can tolerate much more input voltage drop.
Try running Google Maps Navigation with this USB cable - http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Micro-USB-Cable-UUSBHAUB3RA/dp/B001AR4NC8/ - If you use any standard 5v charger, your battery will discharge because there just isn't enough power to even keep the screen/CPU/GPS fed. Use a QC2.0 charger and you'll see the battery actually charge at an acceptable rate.

Fast Charging "Homemade". What are the risks?

I lost my original Fast Charger in my school and now I'm without one. The problem is, that sometimes I need that great feature.
My question is, can I disassembly a random 9V charger and "adapt" a Micro-USB cable to it? Since the GS6 supports 9V I don't see a problem there. Or must I short some data pins in order to enable fast charging to not fry the device?

Why don't you just buy a new one?

I definitely think that's not a good idea. Buy a new one. If you are worried about Samsung charger price you can buy a cheaper charger that support Qualcomm 2.0 quickcharge, it's compatible.

I thought the whole thing was dynamic, that at lower battery levels it charges at different amperage than higher levels, and at a certain point it kicks over to 5V. It doesn't charge at 9V the whole time.
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@quarlow is right, it's dynamic.
You should buy a new one, much more safe.

If I plug a normal 'old' 600mA 5V charger to it, it says that it will charge in 6 HOURS! I can't wait for that.
I have disassembled the charger, unsolded the Female USB plug and solded it to an 9V charger from an TP-Link Switch.
I plugged it in and the phone started charging. It says "Cable charging" instead of "Fast charging" and it stated 6 hours too. After that, I shorted the data pins and then the time reduced to 2 hours...
I also tried a 12V charger (1.5A), but it don't charged, nor maked any charging sound.
Now I concluded two things:
1. Samsung S6 phones are very robust with charger voltages :silly:
2. It isn't that easy to make a fast charger.
I hope I have saved some questions now
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Thanks for all the replies, but now I haven't money to buy one. Where I live, they are really expensive!
Oh, aaand, I don't know if it's a good idea to charge at 9V the whole time, because when it reaches 100%, I hear constantly the charging sound.

Looking at a Samsung Travel Adapter change...
https://www.dropbox.com/s/54xt2u315nn1tkt/2015-09-27 14.04.18-1.jpg?dl=0
Output is: 9v at 1.67A, or 5v at 2.0A. It's listed as an adaptive charger.

numloxx1978 said:
Output is: 9v at 1.67A
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Thanks, I will search for an 9V charger that has this amperage.
Btw, some chargers have adaptive 12V output.... Is that QuickCharge 3.0?

A normal Samsung or LG charger of 1.8A/2A output still charge my S6 in about 1.5 hours. Get one from a relative or friend or buy one if the S6 charger is too costly

Fullmetal Jun said:
Get one from a relative or friend or buy one if the S6 charger is too costly
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I tried already. These options are not available
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I lost my original Fast Charger in my school and now I'm without one. The problem is, that sometimes I need that great feature.
My question is, can I disassembly a random 9V charger and "adapt" a Micro-USB cable to it? Since the GS6 supports 9V I don't see a problem there. Or must I short some data pins in order to enable fast charging to not fry the device?
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the factory charger got in fire sometimes i don know abt home-made chargers... take care dude

You gotta be kidding. Spend $10 and get a QuickCharge 2.0 adapter.
Don't risk it. Samsung Fast Charge is the same thing as Qualcomm Quick Charge. It's Qualcomm's technology, licensed with no loyalty fee.
QuickCharge 2.0 uses the data pins to negotiate the charge voltage with your power adapter. Otherwise it just uses 5V.
I see on my S6 it stays at 9V all the time. The phone pulls the current it needs, so you don't have to try to match that current on the power adapter side. Just make sure it's at least 1.6A, preferably 2A. I never saw my S6 pulling 2A at 5V or 9V.

I'd imagen as this a form for devs . And this guy is trying to create somthing . The devs would be a bit more yaknow . Creative. First off
The guy is trying to make the adaptive charger .give him a bit of credit . I'm currently making a portable charger and I want it to use samsung fast charge
I'm using 18650 battery's 4.2 volts fully charged 3.7 volts give or take when they sag.
So if there is anyone with half a brain out there. How do you get the 9v (8.4) amp to make it a fast charger ( under one and a half hours. ) I'll worry about building the switch to the 5 volts after ( 4.2)
Is it loop the pins . Pin to earth pin to positive loop pins to negative ) the information isn't out there so surely some one has the information. ( just FYI the sgs6 is perfectly capable of being charged at 9 volts. The battery is a nine volt according to the build information explains why charging with any other charger takes 6 hours. .
Also to the op if you did indeed have a similar idea to me just tell erm straight I wanna mess about with low current and voltage dc haha. ( also I tried 18 volts samsung phones do no alow the charge over 9volts so it cannot hurt you're phone

Charging speed

To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Mi 5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Charging I'd more then awesome! Last phone was an S5, that charged pretty fast. But this baby (while using the standard QC 2.0 charger) charges up to my ideal standards! Not needed to charge it during the day yet, but if i needed it to, it didn't need more then an hour for it. Lovely!
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I have an qc 3.0, It charges full from about 10% to 100% in about 1h 30min

Cool, gonna deplete the battery and see how fast it charges on my standard 2.0 charger that came with it.
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So, on a 2.0 charger, standard charger from 10% to 100% in one hour and 15 minutes.
15 min - 30%
30 min - 55%
45 min - 73%
60 min - 90%
75 min - 100%
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Charging times comparison of Mi5 with other phone that have similar capacity battery.
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Charging speed depends from charger max current. And comparison need to spend on same charger.

Quite fast enough, only lose to Oneplus 3 (which my GF have). From 0 to full I just need about 1h15mins when not turned on.
Compare to my old LG G2 which needs 1h40mins from 0 to full.

it need 1,5 hour from zero to full charge
i use standard charger from xiaomi,

Original included charger charges lightning fast. On PC or regular charger it takes much longer for apparent reasons (no QC capabilities).

all day all night half a day ....thats very good it is not like redminote 3 pro battery but its ok

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XDA_RealLifeReview said:
To power up, you consume Red Bull. But your phone just needs its adaptive fast charger. Rate this thread to express how quickly the Xiaomi Mi 5 can charge. A higher rating indicates that it charges extremely fast.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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2:30 hours when playing games with 4g while charging , 1:20 wihile normal use fb, whatsapp and more
And 1 hour with only charging , average is 1:20 or 1:30 hours For me (different adapters different time)..

takes about 1 -1.25 hrs to fully charge. really happy with the speed!

1:15 with Lineage OS and custom kernel

Full Charge
1:20 with ROM AOSP 7.1.1 (JDC)

Original charger takes 80 min for me.
custom rom.

android nougat miui gets charging upto 3amps

I really suggest you to buy a Qualcomm certified QC 3.0
Xiaomi charger is QC 2.0, you can see its output can reach maximum, 2.5 A, while QC 3 get 3 Amp.
In 10 minutes of charge, I can charge up to 18% of battery.

Valeriuz said:
I really suggest you to buy a Qualcomm certified QC 3.0
Xiaomi charger is QC 2.0, you can see its output can reach maximum, 2.5 A, while QC 3 get 3 Amp.
In 10 minutes of charge, I can charge up to 18% of battery.
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Xiaomi original charger is QC3.0 certified,says 2.5A just due to chinese laws,but charges at 3A at times. And charges fastest,compared to Blitzwolf,Tronsmart and Aukey QC3.0 chargers i measured.
Problem is,with latest Global Stable,they tweaked kernel a bit and they all charge 15min longer and without usual 0-60% burst we used to have(bout 20-25min). It is cooler aight but it's slower.

Quick Charging with Aftermarket Chargers?

I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?

I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?

Helhound0 said:
Haha that sounds sketchy. Does it seem like it's charging the phone faster tho?
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Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
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Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What charger is that? Mind sending me a link, sounds interesting... Weird though, TURBO CHARGE ?
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ScarletVeil said:
Yes, it's faster AND cooler than stock QC3 charger, sometimes it shown
Instead “quick charging“. I think my begonia begonning confused
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Sketchy as it is used for marking 30W wireless and 100W wired I believe. Mind using an app that checks the reall wattage speed? Maybe (Ampere)?

Redmi Note 8 Pro uses Type-C interface, and the data transmission standard is USB2.0. Supports Quick charge4 + fast charge protocol, USB Power Delivery (USB PD) fast charge protocol, MediaTek Pump Express 2.0, 4.0.

Give me link for charger Turbo plisss

For me the pixel 2xls charger is showing turbo charging screen as posted above.. charging at 3300 to 3500 mah on accubattery..
For the Stock charger it never went above 3000mah

On stock have 2400 max that way need New charger

I use "Baseus adapter 30W" its quick charge if you use usb cable to tpye c, but this charger use turbo charge if use type c to type c cable
i compare this adapter with stock adapter
this time im compare with app battrey log
fast charging Usb to tpye C (Stock cable)
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stock adapter
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start time : 17:27
percentage : 14%
Stop time : 19:24
Percentage : 97% .
Total Time : 1h 57m
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Baseus charger adapter 30W
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Start time : 09:24
Percentage 14%
Stop Time 11:11
Percentage : 97%
Total Time : 1h 47m
there is a difference of 10 minutes with a stock adapter

ScarletVeil said:
I currently use USB-PD 30W charger + type Cs cable, and it shown fast charging. But I am not sure which standard it use because it also support QC4+, MTK PumpCharging, VOOC, Samsung's adaptive charging and Huawei super charge XD
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What`s the brand/model number of this charger please.
Thanks.

Helhound0 said:
I'm sure this phone works fine with aftermarket chargers like the Anker PowerPort Atom PD 2, but will it charge the phone faster? While the 18W fast charger included with the phone is good, it is admittedly slow to charge the massive battery this thing has.. I don't really care about reducing the lifetime of the battery all that much given that i usually don't use a single phone for longer than an year so i'd be happy if an aftermarket charger can charge the phone faster without setting it on fire.. Any thoughts?
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My Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 charger shows quick charge. It's one from Hama I got a couple months ago for about 20-30 quid. I am pretty sure any QQC 3.0 charger will work

So is it beneficial to go for aftermarket chargers, specially while using custom roms?