Turned off Qualcomm's IZat location estimate - LG V10 General

And gained about 45min more SOT.

I'll give it a try.

tempurastyle said:
And gained about 45min more SOT.
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Care to explain his you did that?

BoiBundy said:
Care to explain his you did that?
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Simple toggle under your location setting.

I have actually received my phone yet, but tomorrow I will see. BTW that is valuable information for every LG V10 use and I would like you to write up a quick "how to" THANKS

BoiBundy said:
I have actually received my phone yet, but tomorrow I will see. BTW that is valuable information for every LG V10 use and I would like you to write up a quick "how to" THANKS
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It's under Settings -> Location -> scroll down
FYI, the additional SOT was from 4h30min to 5h30min, so it really made a huge difference.

tempurastyle said:
It's under Settings -> Location -> scroll down
FYI, the additional SOT was from 4h30min to 5h30min, so it really made a huge difference.
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That's amazing, if you started a thread with the title "1 hour+ additional screen on time" and put those simple steps in there cuz that's worth mentioning to anyone with the powerhouse of phone this thing is.

BoiBundy said:
That's amazing, if you started a thread with the title "1 hour+ additional screen on time" and put those simple steps in there cuz that's worth mentioning to anyone with the powerhouse of phone this thing is.
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Hope it works out the same for you guys!

That is nice, just be aware: if you have any theft app running you can not activate the Flaring option or signal in wich case you can not get the location of your device for tracking porpuses.
Of course this is only if you are using any Flare option, if not, well... Enjoy 1+ hour... ?
Desde V10 (LG-H901)

What's a flaring option? Location is still available through gps and google location service even with service turned off.

tempurastyle said:
It's under Settings -> Location -> scroll down
FYI, the additional SOT was from 4h30min to 5h30min, so it really made a huge difference.
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Many Thanks.
From the reviews, seems like it'll work better after public WiFi partnerships. For now battery life is more important.

Verizon VS990 here. No such setting. So apparently this is not for all V10's

beavis5706 said:
Verizon VS990 here. No such setting. So apparently this is not for all V10's
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It's there in Android 6, but on my it was already set off

faeArai said:
What's a flaring option? Location is still available through gps and google location service even with service turned off.
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Well, the flaring option is not a feature of android is a Theft Concept and provide a way to know where your phone/tablet was located before it runs out of power or until somebody (the theft) turn it off (in worse case escenario) or lets say you request at any time your device's location...
Now, the flaring signal gives you the option to use the normal gps for location porpuses, but let's be honest, in first place the gps doesn't gives you an accurate location and in second place most people keep gps off unless you are using the map/navigation, here is when the problems come... sometimes you send the activation remotelly but doesn't work (specially in buildings, tunnels, some offices, etc...).
This is where Izat is the hero of the story, trough Izat activated, in case you lost your device, it doesn't matter where it is, it can be in a tunnel, office, building (places where normaly there is a poor or super bad conectivity)... Izat can go trough everything and give you an very accurate position/location...
But, before you guys start to blame me, remember what I said before, keep it on if you use anti theft apps with flaring option, in other case ENJOY 1+ hour.
Here more info: http://www.guidingtech.com/55483/qualcomm-izat-android-location-settings/
Desde V10 (LG-H901)

So after turning izat of my standby is great. Back home and after 12h battery time my phone is still at 81% with all stuff enabled and over an hour of a2dp streaming in the car.

What's the difference between Qualcomm's iZat and Google's WiFi Location Service?
Sounds like Qualcomm just wants in on having their share of mass user location tracking.

faearai01 said:
So after turning izat of my standby is great. Back home and after 12h battery time my phone is still at 81% with all stuff enabled and over an hour of a2dp streaming in the car.
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That feature is obviously draining battery in my case (LG G5):
When I had it on, the battery usage was about 11% in 3 hours (during night time). After turning it off, it went back to the usual 3% in 3 hours.

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POSSIBLE FIX: Solution to high Android System usage on GB ROMS

THANKS TO MILH0U5E, From the Evo 4g forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006809
Basically go to Menu > Settings > Privacy and turn off "Backup to Google".....
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I've been enjoying the different aosp gingerbread roms from echoside, savage team, and evokings... they each run really well and stand apart from each other.
But one thing that I have been unable to shake is the high percentage of Android System running. Its always upwards of 60% or higher, unless the phone is in airplane mode.
I think I found the culprit in this issue... I turned off backing up to Google services, and wham! No more high Android System usage. It hasn't been a full day yet, but I usually notice it by mid morning.
Just thought I'd throw this out there for you GB fans.
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I'll give it a shot when i get home... Anyone else try this?
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THANKS TO MILH0U5E, From the Evo 4g forum - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1006809
Basically go to Menu > Settings > Privacy and turn off "Backup to Google".....
SUMMARY:
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diablokicks said:
I'll give it a shot when i get home... Anyone else try this?
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I did it, will see if it changes anything today. I charge overnight, run on battery all day, and have my tablet set to never sleep. I see an idle drain of about 1-2% per hour with it not deep sleeping (wifi on, screen off) so it should be interesting to compare.
Reading the entire thread he linked to, I'm not sure this does much of anything... we'll see!
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I'll give it a shot when i get home... Anyone else try this?
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I am giving it a shot as of right now. It's gotta be easier on the battery with this disabled.
schettj said:
I did it, will see if it changes anything today. I charge overnight, run on battery all day, and have my tablet set to never sleep. I see an idle drain of about 1-2% per hour with it not deep sleeping (wifi on, screen off) so it should be interesting to compare.
Reading the entire thread he linked to, I'm not sure this does much of anything... we'll see!
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So far, no appreciable change in standby power drain. Can't hurt, seems unnecessary, but unlikely to be a positive impact unless you happen to get stuck spinning on some backup process.

[Q] LG G2 Battery concerns (AT&T D800)

Hello all.
I'm getting the feeling I'm not exactly getting the battery life I should be getting with this phone.
I had another LG G2 before the one I currently have now. I swapped it out during the 14-day return period. That one had screen flickering (which I now know that is due to content adaptive contrast etc.) and [aesthetic] the day after actually getting the phone, getting a scratch on it. However, with that day of having the phone, I felt as if I got better battery life compared to this one. That phone had Carrier IQ running on it when I didn't know anything about it. I only knew about Carrier IQ's problems once I had the current G2.
I'll post my battery results at the end of the current day from GSam, but attached are my current battery results at the given moment.
I have been using it actively since 6AM or so.
Screen at 30% brightness, WiFi on all the time. I have made the effort to disable all AT&T bloat and I have stopped Carrier IQ, LG Intelligent Agent or whatever its called and SmartCard.
I'm unrooted, totally stock (what comes out of the box). I have KNOCK ON disabled along with SlideAway if that helps.
No gaming has ever been had on this phone. Just Facebook, Messenger, and Chrome for browsing the web. I also listen to Google Play Music.
I talked on the phone with AT&T on Wednesday and they suggested a factory reset, and if it didn't fix it, to warranty the phone out...which would result in a refurbished phone and I'm kinda not okay with that because I paid for a new phone and I don't like having to get a refurbished one that is supposed to resolve my issue somehow. That's just me though.
Last night, I charged up to full while the phone was shut off. Factory reset my G2 and I still get this feeling I'm not really getting proper battery life.
Are these the type of results of what I should be getting? Not representative of a day actually out and about (which will be Monday as I have school then), rather at home. I will give stats of the end of the day use of Monday...at the end of Monday. Thanks in advance, and hopefully I have given enough info AND stats. I'm still sorta new to XDA.
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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born_fisherman said:
I'm sorry, but you have 3 hours of screen on time and only used 40% of your battery. I think that is pretty darn good. I wouldn't be concerned with this. You are making me wonder about my device.. I have 62% left and only 1.5 hours screen time
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day. People mention such screen time and more (4+), with getting upwards of 30 total hours of usage etc.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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Really? Huh. I just ..all the reviews claim high numbers...and with heavy usage of close to a day.
Have you disabled Carrier IQ?
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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No I haven't. I've only had the G2 for a couple days, coming from HTC One. Att is letting me try this phone out to see if I want to swap it after all the warranty exchanges I've had due to purple camera issues. I didn't know carrier iq was an issue, but I will look into it
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Ahh okay. The G2 is a nice phone in terms of performance, functionality etc. Battery life was supposed to be a major feature of this phone because of the optimization and battery size...so that's why I'm concerned when others are seeming to get much better results.
If you don't mind me asking, why are they giving you a One for warranty exchange? I personally wanted a One before this phone, but it was cheaper, had better features, specs and battery life etc.
EDIT: just noticed you stated the purple camera issue. Sorry..I didn't know that was a problem with it though. Last I heard of such was with the iPhone 5's new sapphire lens...but that was fixed through a software update (somehow).
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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Yea the One is a great phone - I'm still not sure what I want to do yet! The problem is with most of the first months the phone was built. My wife has the mini and it was built in September- she doesn't have the purple issue. I could just send the One into HTC and have them fix the camera.. I am a little disappointed with the G2 shutter speed with flash on tho; but I am pretty sure this is fixable with a software update.
Is Carrier IQ really draining the battery? Is that why my idle battery life is terrible?
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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The G2 takes a bit of time in low light (if thats what you're getting at) etc. because its trying to suck as much light as it can. It does a great job because it takes its time...its just understandable why its doing that. That's why its quick and speedy in proper light (which isn't too demanding). I'd rather have proper exposure at the expense of time.
Yes, carrier IQ is exactly why. Do a bit of searching around on Carrier IQ on the AT&T G2...its the only carrier variant of the phone affected by it. It causes major wakelock and demands GPS even when you have done everything to disable location services. I also recommend, while you're at it if you haven't, to disable WiFi and mobile network connection under location access in settings.
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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I agree that I'd rather have a better picture than a faster snap When the lighting is good, the shutter speed is great - I posted a couple comparison shots on another thread about the One vs the G2.
As far as the CIQ - I disable IQ in Android system settings - as well as the wifi and mobile network location settings. Will see how this affects battery life.
I still think you are getting great battery life compared to mine - I'm down to 42% battery with 2hrs screen time.. I'm using Lux for brightness and it keeps the screen pretty dim compared to the built in auto brightness logic LG uses.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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uninstall the maps update and disable the auto update for itband ur batteryvwill be good i just didbthat last night and my phone has been on forv24 hrs and im still at 69% with 4 hrs screen tine
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Ahh okay. I tried a similar thing where I uninstalled updates and reinstalled... Cuz I read that somewhere. But now I'm doing this. Will report back if I see any difference.
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I'll check out Lux.
Also, see how your battery improves after disabling Carrier IQ etc. then we will compare and see who has better battery life. You should definitely notice a personal difference. You may not think there is something wrong with your phone anymore.
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I can't seem to disable ciq using system tuner - the check boxes are all grayed out-- any tips? do I need the pro version?
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I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
I average %5 per hour.
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I average %5 per hour.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
LucariX said:
I just do what you did earlier - go into Apps > disable IQ Agent running under Android system, go back, click Android system again and stop the actual service...and do that every time I reboot the device.
You can totally remove it I believe with root, but I have been aiming to refrain from rooting until my 1 year warranty with this phone is up
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oh okay. I read people use system tuner app, but I'm not sure how as the check boxes for the running services are all grayed out so it isn't possible to uncheck them. unless a rooted phone is needed, I don't know, I can't find specific information on it.
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What type of usage? With WiFi, over data, brightness setting..etc?
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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D800, stock, full brightness (not auto), Wifi when indoors, 4G LTE when outdoors with wifi on, blutooth on all the time, mix usage.
These were taken on different days. I always have wifi, 4G LTE and blutooth on.
I notice a drop when I have a lot of data transfer or a lot of screen time, but overall it never made me complain, I only complained to myself when I pushed it to limit because I got spoiled by good battery life and I stopped the habit of plugging it all the time. Now when I pick up, it has 30% and it can still last few hours easily, whereas before %30 meant "oh ohhhhh"..
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Okay, yeah. Nice stats. I'll see how things go so far with the past suggestion of Maps etc. but yeah I totally agree with 30% thing...its weird thinking that too. But I have adjusted...kinda.
Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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Just a quick note on standby battery life - I used the phone until it completely shut off last night around 7pm or so.. at 10pm it was fully charged, so I pulled it off the charger. It is now 8AM, and the phone is still at 100%!! I did not get any texts/emails overnight, I left WiFi/4G on.. GPS stayed on along with Wifi/mobile network locations on.
When the phone shut off and I charged it, upon reboot, I did go into location settings and disable IQAgent.
I also removed some apps (Lux/GSAM), and reverted Maps to previous version. Not really sure if Lux or GSAM are a culprit or not.. I used GSAM on my One only because HTC removed the battery stats - LG has this in the battery info. Although GSAM is nice, it isn't really necessary unless drain is outrageous.
Let's see what today brings for battery life!
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I know for many, the standby of the phone is said to be a killer. I might just remove GSam too. I tried out Lux BTW and I was really shocked just how dim the display got where it was even hard to see in a dark room
So far I haven't noticed any change in battery life while consistently using the phone. However I will say when I rebooted real quick last night, I forgot to take care of Carrier IQ and noticed that the battery was dropping incredibly fast. I then remembered I forgot to disable it, and then all was well. Just shows how much of a difference it makes!

Is Google Location Reporting the hidden battery Vampire?

Hi Guys,
I'm a casual user and usually get 2 days out of my battery with roughly 1-2 hours of screen time. I manage my wifi/data and have, "battery saver," mode set in my location settings.
A few days ago, my battery was on 70% when I went to bed. I awoke in the middle of the day and realised that my alarm had not gone off. The phone had turned off and when I turned it on, the battery was down at 3% and Google Search had consumed the battery.
Having a look around to find any possible reason, I stubbled on the, "Location Reporting," settings which were both on. I've now turned these both off and my battery life seems to loose 25% per day rather than the usual 50% per day.
What are your experiences with Location Reporting Settings and Battery Life?
Thanks.
Edit: just done another cycle and I am certainly 10 to 20 better battery wise than with location reporting on.
I'd say no, as it doesn't affect me and I have mine on high accuracy. I am 100% stock (not even unlocked bootloader) and haven't changed any settings away from default in any app I have installed (which isn't many)
Mine has always been on high accuracy. I've used 18% of my battery in the last 10 hours. I would check your navigation isn't running.
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I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user and sometimes I run into deadspots so take that for what its worth.
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I think it does make somewhat of a difference. If I turn it off I can squeeze out maybe 20-30mins of extra screen on time. Mind you, I am a heavy user, and charge my phone sometimes twice a day. sometimes I will run into deadspots, and that will also cause the battery to die quicker, so take that for what its worth.
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bloot said:
I don't think OP is referring to the high accuracy setting, but the google location reporting menu below.
I have them both off from the beginning, frankly I don't know if it makes any impact to the batttery life.
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That's correct :good:, I'm referring to the reporting menu below.
Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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YES. I turned off both Location History and Location Reporting and my phone has way less wakelocks and battery usage. But just leave the regular location setting on High Accuracy...
Your phone will last forever!
I've run my phone with Location History and Reporting and Google Now on. What I noticed was many more wakelocks at the end of the day but with surprisingly little difference in actual battery usage. It has gotten much much better IME as far as actual battery toll.
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Ever since I updated to the latest google play services (4.5.1 I think) battery drain issued have been solved.
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I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
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I'm on 4.2.39. The play store is not asking me to update the services app so I presume I'm on the latest version?
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That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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That's weird I'm on 4.1.32 (just checked). Maybe try installing latest gapps package? I had problems with cataclysm ROM in December. Then a new play services update came out and no more wake locks.
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Thanks for looking, I'm on stock 4.4.2. What prompted me to look at my settings was just the random chronic battery drain. Google keep saying they have fixed things and they appear to be right. Then out of nowhere, I get a random drain. It's happened 3 times now meaning I get to work hours late....
Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
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Google collects anonymous location data from your phone even when location reporting and history are turned off (also did it when on device only mode).
It caused a lot of wake locks for me. I've found a way to still be able to use the GPS without all the wake locks. Simply switch off location totally, then reenable but disagree to the Google terms. Phone sleeps all the time now.
However I'm not quite sure how much battery these wake locks consume and if it's worth losing the instant location access and Google Now features. That's why I'm running my phone this way for a couple of days to test the battery life both with ART and Dalvik to see, if it makes a difference and how big that difference is.
Btw, I also only have Play Services 4.1.32. Does that depend on which region we live in? I would also like to see, if 4.5 would make the battery life better...
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Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
Masteryates said:
Services went to 4.2.40 last night. I'm still going to run without the location reporting on to see if I can get longer than my usual 2 days.
Would be nice to get hear from another nexus 4/5 user who in the past has had location reporting on and has now turned it off.
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Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
cawith said:
Hm, I still have the same old version. Would it be dangerous to sideload an updated version of Play Services? Is that even possible?
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My updated version came via an update of the search or maps app. I don't know about side loading or how you would get hold of the apk.
So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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So does the update improve the battery life or not? It's really a placebo at best during the big update.
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I'd say I've seen no difference. However, consistent battery life is important to me even if not that good. The real killer is when something like Google search decides to eat my battery in the course of a night.
I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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I've read in other threads that if you don't have quality LTE in your area, the phone uses up mucho battery, trying to maintain/improve the LTE connection (searching for better LTE service). But those with quality LTE service don't have such issues.
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Doesn't seem to matter what network you are on, 3g/4g, if your phone is searching for the signal all of the time, your battery will take a real hammering.

Why do I have terrible battery life?

I just got my Z5 a few days ago, and the battery life is downright AWFUL. With stamina mode on, my phone drains about 1% every minute or two, just while browsing the web. What is going on here?
Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/uDv2hIs.png
Me too, it's a total letdown. Had 3 hours SOC and around 9-10 hours overall before it conked out on me yesterday
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I just got my Z5 a few days ago, and the battery life is downright AWFUL. With stamina mode on, my phone drains about 1% every minute or two, just while browsing the web. What is going on here?
Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/uDv2hIs.png
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Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
augie7107 said:
Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
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Occasionally, but not all the time. The battery drain was still this bad even when I was connected to my WiFi signal at home
Uclydde said:
Occasionally, but not all the time. The battery drain was still this bad even when I was connected to my WiFi signal at home
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Try airplane mode and see if it improves. This will allow you to use WIFI but halt network search and switching. Check battery stats after a while to see if that helps. Of course, you will get no network dependent communications while in airplane mode so take that into consideration prior to testing. Battery performance will settle down after a few weeks as well but you certainly seem to have a major drain problem and testing will help you locate the cause.
augie7107 said:
Looks like your device is spending a lot of time switching networks which is battery intensive. Are you in a poor signal area?
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augie7107 said:
Try airplane mode and see if it improves. This will allow you to use WIFI but halt network search and switching. Check battery stats after a while to see if that helps. Of course, you will get no network dependent communications while in airplane mode so take that into consideration prior to testing. Battery performance will settle down after a few weeks as well but you certainly seem to have a major drain problem and testing will help you locate the cause.
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All right, thanks. I'm gonna try that and report back here later today.
Okay, airplane mode hasn't helped much at all. I'm still draining 1% every minute or two.
Uclydde said:
Okay, airplane mode hasn't helped much at all. I'm still draining 1% every minute or two.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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Nope, I uninstalled it immediately too.
Only other suggestion is factory reset or repair firmware both if which are a PIA.
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That is truly strange. Any running apps killing it? I just streamed a two hour movie and lost 22%. I read somewhere that the pre-installed AVG was a battery hog. I couldn't tell you because I uninstalled it as soon as I booted for the first time. Are you still running it? That may be the next test.
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Only other suggestion is factory reset or repair firmware both if which are a PIA.
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Yeah, I thought it would come to this.
Uclydde said:
Yeah, I thought it would come to this.
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Have you looked at your Google account settings to see if everything is syncing properly? I have seen this before when someone had an error while trying to sync photos to their Google account, demolished their battery until they went into account settings and unchecked whatever it was that was syncing constantly.
Also make sure you have opted out of Google's location history thing in Google maps where it tells you everywhere you've been on any given day, that can wipe your battery as well. Lastly try turning off the xperia protection that allows you to remotely deactivate the phone, just make sure you don't lose it in the meantime !
I got a Z5 the day it came out and it has done pretty well on battery life, at least until I installed Facebook and Messenger. When I uninstalled the two of them, the battery life returned to pretty good. With Facebook and Messenger the battery was draining extremely quickly. I unlocked the bootloader the day I got the phone and am waiting for TWRP as root will sort a lot of this out.
After 3 Days, i looks like a normale Day use by me around 50% battery. I have allthetime Bluetooth and Wlan on. Whatsapp and Gmail sync. I use my Phone usually for streamming musik over bluetooth around 2h hours, read news and message (Whatsapp) around 2h hours, play some games around 30minutes and some Calls around the same time. My "old" Z1 i had usually to charge ones during the day and of course during the night. So im happy with the battery time @ z5.
redandblack1287 said:
Have you looked at your Google account settings to see if everything is syncing properly? I have seen this before when someone had an error while trying to sync photos to their Google account, demolished their battery until they went into account settings and unchecked whatever it was that was syncing constantly.
Also make sure you have opted out of Google's location history thing in Google maps where it tells you everywhere you've been on any given day, that can wipe your battery as well. Lastly try turning off the xperia protection that allows you to remotely deactivate the phone, just make sure you don't lose it in the meantime !
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Okay, I just turned off automatic Google photos backup, and Google's location history setting was already off. I also turned off my Xperia (the thing that lets me remotely deactivate the phone). Let's see if it works.
Yeah, its still draining fast. In case you're wondering, I keep my screen at half brightness. You can look at the photo I attached.
Update?
Did you ever resolve the issue? I'm getting similar battery life and am not happy about it.
This may be a noob-ish suggestion and one that the phone industry claims isn't necessary anymore, but have you tried "calibrating" the battery by charging it to 100 and completely draining it to the point where the phone won't turn on 2 times and then fully charging it a 3rd time? It may be an old, unnecessary habit, but I've done this every time I get a new battery (or phone) and I usually have really good battery life for the first year - year and a half. The one device I failed to do this on was my Xperia z2 tablet and it suffered for it (i think) although that could just be my prejudice and confirmation bias speaking.
- others suggest NOT to fully drain your phone's battery because you might have troubles turning it on.
Did you by any chance have "Glove Mode" enabled in Settings < Display? It seems that your screen is the culprit. Try disabling "Smart backlight" if you have it enabled and "Tap to wake up".
From the screenshot you posted earlier (History details) we can see that even when the screen is off the wifi is on and the phone isn't actually sleeping. So you got a wakelock on your hands that uses WiFi and doesn't let the phone sleep.
In WiFi settings under advanced (Wifi< Three dots, top right< Advanced) do you have wifi as always on? Change it to "Only when plugged in", also disable "Scanning always available" in the same menu.
Any chance we can get a list of apps you have installed yourself on your phone?

Battery Drain Question

HI guys.. Before I buy the note 20 ultra I want to make sure battery drain isn't crazy. If you would please turn off bluetooth, wifi and data and only leave mobile phone on, how much battery would you drain in 12 hours? Would appreciate this feedback.
Consider a new N10+ N975U1 running on Android 10 for $800, or half that price used.
Overall a better, more dependable flapship; better form factor and display (less variable refresh rate).
Android 11 is problematic and 12 is fubar.
The N10+ running on 9 or 10 is a very functional, long lived and fun to use device. Snappy fast with 10hr SOT when optimized.
blackhawk said:
Consider a new N10+ N975U1 running on Android 10 for $800, or half that price used.
Overall a better, more dependable flapship; better form factor and display (less variable refresh rate).
Android 11 is problematic and 12 is fubar.
The N10+ running on 9 or 10 is a very functional, long lived and fun to use device. Snappy fast with 10hr SOT when optimized.
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What the hell are you talking about?? Youre in the wrong forum. This is about the N20U not the N10+.
zlaer said:
What the hell are you talking about?? Youre in the wrong forum. This is about the N20U not the N10+.
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Exactly what I stated... but you can do what you want
blackhawk said:
Exactly what I stated... but you can do what you want
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Smh.. dont do drugs guys
My SD variant NOTE20U has been doing pretty well. Even with instant messaging apps always running in the background, and BT earphones connected and data enabled, only ~2% of battery was consumed sleeping overnight. If those were turned off, maybe 1%?
I installed an app that can monitor real-time power draw. With some debloat and optimization, the screen on standby power draw is around 80mA of current, with some spikes to ~150mA, which is very good.
Check out: [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
Xrunner87 said:
My SD variant NOTE20U has been doing pretty well. Even with instant messaging apps always running in the background, and BT earphones connected and data enabled, only ~2% of battery was consumed sleeping overnight. If those were turned off, maybe 1%?
I installed an app that can monitor real-time power draw. With some debloat and optimization, the screen on standby power draw is around 80mA of current, with some spikes to ~150mA, which is very good.
Check out: [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
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Appreciate the link.
With all those optimizations, hows your SOT?
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zlaer said:
Appreciate the link.
With all those optimizations, hows your SOT?
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Not bad, 5G enabled, 120Hz RR, AOD off, enhanced processing speed enabled, instant messaging apps always running, and it gives me around 22hrs of total use time, ~7 hrs of SOT, ~14 hours of standby. Mainly watching videos, shopping apps, playing a few 3D games, and browsing social media.
Xrunner87 said:
My SD variant NOTE20U has been doing pretty well. Even with instant messaging apps always running in the background, and BT earphones connected and data enabled, only ~2% of battery was consumed sleeping overnight. If those were turned off, maybe 1%?
I installed an app that can monitor real-time power draw. With some debloat and optimization, the screen on standby power draw is around 80mA of current, with some spikes to ~150mA, which is very good.
Check out: [GUIDE] [NO-ROOT] Complete Samsung OneUI Optimization
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What's the monitoring app you're using?
Hi...
With everything which You stated "ON" ( Bluetooth connected to the watch, WiFi connected, location "ON", 5G "ON" ) its draining through the night 9-10 hr about 3 % from the battery...
Hopefully that answer will help a little bit...
terpi74 said:
Hi...
With everything which You stated "ON" ( Bluetooth connected to the watch, WiFi connected, location "ON", 5G "ON" ) its draining through the night 9-10 hr about 3 % from the battery...
Hopefully that answer will help a little bit...
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So your mobile phone is on also during the night, right?
dj24 said:
What's the monitoring app you're using?
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Something called Scene.
the issue is absolutely unbearable, reddit is full of this issue since latest 4.1 UI android 12 update, omg its just AWFUL the battery drain, dude, its a actual joke, I've cleared cache etc so have others, its also on Samsung forum and no actual help they just say "oh submit a case"
smh
asustf700t said:
the issue is absolutely unbearable, reddit is full of this issue since latest 4.1 UI android 12 update, omg its just AWFUL the battery drain, dude, its a actual joke, I've cleared cache etc so have others, its also on Samsung forum and no actual help they just say "oh submit a case"
smh
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Kinda confused by your statement. The user terpi74 above you said he experiences only 3% of drain per nite.
zlaer said:
So your mobile phone is on also during the night, right?
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Yes, phone is ON...
I charge phone after work, when is about 90% disconnect from charger and is ON all the time. And, like i say previously, I have no issue with excessive battery drain
Xrunner87 said:
Something called Scene.
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Google didn't turn up anything.... See if you can post the name if you ever get around to it.
dj24 said:
Google didn't turn up anything.... See if you can post the name if you ever get around to it.
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My bad, I forgot they don't use the name Scene on their GitHub page. The latest release is 4.7.3. After the installation, look for a little plug icon in the Scene app, located in the bottom left corner. And that "-XXXmA" is your current draw.

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