[Completed] Why is internal system memory full when it only occupies 1/5 of internal file system? - XDA Assist

Hello there,
i am using a rooted Galaxy S Plus with stock firmware (GT-I9001 Android 2.3.3 GINGERBREAD.XXKG3)
When using Total Commander to check folder sizes i get the following results:
/mnt 3,7G
/sdcard 3,5G
/system 217,1M
/proc 19,9M
/etc 1,9M
/lib 177,8k
all other folders 0
combined file size of all files directly in / ~800k
The root info shows the following information:
SD-card 1,9G / 4,9G (internal storage from the S plus)
SD-card (2) 792,1M / 1,8G (external sdcard)
File system root 45,4 M / 1,3 G (HERE IS THE PROBLEM/CONFUSION!!!)
Settings>SD card and phone storage
SD card
Total space 1,86GB
Available space 792MB
USB storage
Total space 4,99GB
Available space 2,00GB
System storage
Available space 45,44MB
So my phone tells me "LOW ON SPACE" because File system root is only 45M left and this would mean 1.25G occupied space... looking on the other table.. i am not even using 250M on the system...
Where is the rest of the aprox 1G system space!?
I have freed so much space in the past and still the system gets full and running out of space, without the 250M raising... it was around 350M couple of months ago when i last did a cleanup because of lack of space... and the ~100MB are GONE again.. and i have no clue where.. and how the hell i could claim the missing 1GB on the system storage (not the internal sd storage).
Any advice/help/hint could help.... i had to uninstall so many apps i have been using the past WITHOUT ISSUES or low space.. it looks like something is eating up space in the shadows and not giving it back. -.-
P.S. If any more info is required (which i can't think of right now) i am glad to provide if possible/applicable...

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Hello there,
i am using a rooted Galaxy S Plus with stock firmware (GT-I9001 Android 2.3.3 GINGERBREAD.XXKG3)
When using Total Commander to check folder sizes i get the following results:
/mnt 3,7G
/sdcard 3,5G
/system 217,1M
/proc 19,9M
/etc 1,9M
/lib 177,8k
all other folders 0
combined file size of all files directly in / ~800k
The root info shows the following information:
SD-card 1,9G / 4,9G (internal storage from the S plus)
SD-card (2) 792,1M / 1,8G (external sdcard)
File system root 45,4 M / 1,3 G (HERE IS THE PROBLEM/CONFUSION!!!)
Settings>SD card and phone storage
SD card
Total space 1,86GB
Available space 792MB
USB storage
Total space 4,99GB
Available space 2,00GB
System storage
Available space 45,44MB
So my phone tells me "LOW ON SPACE" because File system root is only 45M left and this would mean 1.25G occupied space... looking on the other table.. i am not even using 250M on the system...
Where is the rest of the aprox 1G system space!?
I have freed so much space in the past and still the system gets full and running out of space, without the 250M raising... it was around 350M couple of months ago when i last did a cleanup because of lack of space... and the ~100MB are GONE again.. and i have no clue where.. and how the hell i could claim the missing 1GB on the system storage (not the internal sd storage).
Any advice/help/hint could help.... i had to uninstall so many apps i have been using the past WITHOUT ISSUES or low space.. it looks like something is eating up space in the shadows and not giving it back. -.-
P.S. If any more info is required (which i can't think of right now) i am glad to provide if possible/applicable...
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[Q] How to install ROM on the SD card ?

Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. The ROM must be located on the phone.
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
V_XT720 said:
OK....I have 4-5 apps installed and 110MB free space internal storage. So, I have enough space for may be 5-6 more apps and what will happen after that?... Then I will use my phone only to view photos or may be like a mp3-player?
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I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
reverendkjr said:
I don't have a single app that is over 5 mb in size. I do believe that you are mistaken on how big apps really are. Most apps are well under 1 mb.
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Let me give you an examples:
1- IGO - around 9MB data storage (in newest version was more);
2- Skype - almоst 5MB
And 2-3 more apps which can not be moved to the SD card....and you know the result..... May be I'm wrong, but after every single app installed on the phone the internal storage dramatically reduced. I really don't know what to do
Enricosteph said:
So you have GalaxyXT V4 and the SD has one Partition?
Than have a look at the Market and search for "Move2Sd Enabler" from Roberto Leinardi......Install it...open it.....chose the "Extern" entry and press OK/Save or what ever......after that you can go to your apps under Settings....there you will find an entry "Move to SD" or something like that......you can move every App you installed....but you should not move any System apps....
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Yes, I know how to move my apps to the SD card (I have app2sd). But also used storage on SD card there is “ Data storage” and this is used internal storage. I know that is normal the app to save settings, accounts and so on to internal storage, but I think that these ”Data storage” files are too big.
V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
V_XT720 said:
Ok…..you’re right. But I think that you know the main idea of the conversation. These 150MB are enough to install about a dozen apps.
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if your are using a Dex or Kalh ROM RTFM man, move to ext or gtfo lol
Mioze7Ae said:
The phone has 256MB that is divided into partitions. Some goes to the kernel, some goes to hold the system, some goes to cache, some goes to other stuff. The "internal memory" (where apps get installed) is partitioned at 170MB. So, in terms of internal memory, you should think of it as 150MB/170MB not 150MB/256MB.
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I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
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Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
3rdstring said:
I think it's 512 ROM & 256 RAM & I have over 70 apps installed.
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How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
V_XT720 said:
How can I do this? How can I install so many apps??? Maybe I need to move the data folder to the SD card???
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I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
3rdstring said:
I guess it will depend on the apps & I will look for smaller alternatives, especially if it's something I only use occasionally. (My apps)
I only have one partition on my sdcard & use native froyo apps2sd along with Move2SD Enabler (which enables moving user apps to the sd even if the dev hasn't added that option to his app) to move large / infrequently used apps to the sdcard. I find the limiting factor on my phone to be the RAM (so I will shy away from apps that are constantly running in the background) & the dalvik-cache on the cache partition.
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I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
V_XT720 said:
I also have one partition on my SD card (FAT32) and app2sd, but I don't have Move2SD Enabler. I will install it. You have more than 70 apps....so, how many MB's you have on the internal storage?
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I'm at @44MB free at the moment.
I really don't know what happen with this phone...I installed VPlayer PRO from the market - 10MB. Before installation the internal storage was 127MB and external - 7.05GB. After that - 117MB internal and 7.04.....I checked in app2sd where is installed the app - it was on SD CARD
Mioze7Ae said:
I think you're right. Sorry for any confusion.
Code:
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/block/mtdblock7 199.6M 194.3M 5.3M 97% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock9 173.1M 52.1M 121.0M 30% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock8 106.0M 62.8M 43.2M 59% /cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 8.8M 8.5M 300.0K 97% /cdrom
/dev/block/mtdblock0 1.5M 1.3M 180.0K 88% /pds
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Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
Cesantony said:
Hi, hey Mioze7Ae just a quik quiestion, for what is the system partition? and it's ok if i have just 1 or 2 Mb free in it? I'm experiencing lags this two or thre weeks ago, so i thought maybe can be because i have full the system partition? i have V4 galaxyxt
Thanks a lot
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The system partition is meant to run read-only. Normal use won't even try to write to it. I don't think a nearly full /system is a problem at all. If /system is too full, the only problem I've seen is that metamorph might have trouble applying a theme.
Lags are caused by too little free RAM, which is different. When the phone runs out of memory it has to do garbage collection (that's what causes the pause). You can try Autokiller Memory Optimizer from the market. This app lets you tweak the Android built-in memory management parameters to reduce the number of active background tasks (which when tuned properly results in a larger default pool of free memory and thus garbage collection is not needed as often). I like the "optimal" setting myself but you'll probably have to play with it to match your load.
V_XT720 said:
Hello. I have a Motorola Milestone XT-720 Android Dexter's 2.2.1 Froyo Kahlpower's V4 GalaxyXT ROM. Is it possible to install the ROM on the SD card ? - I mean for the phone to be able to boot ROM from SD card. I’m asking for this, because when I install some app on the sd card it takes up space, but at the same time this app also takes up space on the internal storage. I know that is normal, but the phone has 250MB internal storage and after installing the ROM the free space is about only 150-160MB. Thanks in advance.
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Cant he just make an ext3 partition on his sd card & then make a app folder?
Thats what I did & I have 20 apps installed with 161mb free on the phone.
If I missed something please correct me.

[Q] Kitkat internal memory issue

Hi guys,
I am using HTC Desire 816 handset which contains 8 gb of internal memory.
In that 8gb i can use only 3.9gb for storing app related files and other stuffs,remaining space occupied by OS.
Currently i am facing memory not available issue while downloading through internet or installing new apps.
so i checked the space available in internal memory using ESS file explorer and
found 400mb space free and 3.5gb space used.
But i dont have that much files in my internal memory.
So i selected all the files in the "emulated" folder ("0" & "Legacy") and checked the properties which shows total
size is 1.8gb.
Here my confusion is both the files are of size 1.8gb.But i select both the fiels and check the whole space it is showing 1.8gb only.
So where is the remaining space,which file occupying that space,can i delete that files.
please help me.

[Completed] how do I get into "android/inaccessible files" - it's 88% of my storage

I'm trying to free up some space with an app called "Storage Analyzer" and there's this enormous greyed out slice of the pie (88% of my internal storage) that is called "android/inaccessible"
1) does anybody know what it is? it's not spotify premium offline files, because I've deleted all those to try to free it up
2) how can I gain access to it, to hopefully delete some of the files & free up space
*this is probably not my android filesystem (I would presume) because theres a separate field called "android overhead" which only takes up 16MB (2.8%)
Phone Specs:
AT&T Galaxy S5 SM-G900A
Android 5.0
16 GB internal memory
64 GB external (but I can't move any of my files over to the SD, since the files in question are "inaccessible" and greyed out)
XDA Visitor said:
I'm trying to free up some space with an app called "Storage Analyzer" and there's this enormous greyed out slice of the pie (88% of my internal storage) that is called "android/inaccessible"
1) does anybody know what it is? it's not spotify premium offline files, because I've deleted all those to try to free it up
2) how can I gain access to it, to hopefully delete some of the files & free up space
*this is probably not my android filesystem (I would presume) because theres a separate field called "android overhead" which only takes up 16MB (2.8%)
Phone Specs:
AT&T Galaxy S5 SM-G900A
Android 5.0
16 GB internal memory
64 GB external (but I can't move any of my files over to the SD, since the files in question are "inaccessible" and greyed out)
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I guess it's the space on the internal storage, which is not accessible by the storage analyzer app.
If your device is not rooted, your apps can not access all system folders ... only your user space.
If you want to free some of the system space, you will have to root your device.
There are different clean up apps available, but keep in mind, that deleting system files is risky and may cause issues on your device.
BTW ... here is the [INDEX][FAQ][Q&A][ALL-IN-ONE][ATT][SM-G900A][Jul.01.2014] by ted77usa thread with many useful information and links to other threads for your device.
It's an help thread too.
So please register on xda and ask there to get answers from users having the same device like you.
Good luck !

Internal storage has space but not /system directory. Help needed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hello everyone. I am facing a serious problem. I have 500+mb in my internal storage but the /system directory has oly 5 mb left. I need the /system directory to be about 100mb free because i need to convert some user apps into system apps. Moreover i know that i can uninstall some bloatware to increase space but trust me i removed all the unnecessary apps. Since /system directory is a part of the internal storage is there any method to allocate more space to /system.? Screenshots included.
Space available to internal storage - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BztostHJYEO5SWF6QkkyU3NOS3c/view?usp=sharing
Space available to /system directory - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BztostHJYEO5bFVQSlJRTjgwcWM/view?usp=sharing
Wrong phone, wrong forum lol. You probably have old moto e or something. Sure you can change partition layout but this might be dangerous because you need to modify bootloader.

Storage isues

Hello,
I have a GoClever Aries 785 (M7841) Tab, and supposedly it is an 8 GB tab, since I can ot post any images because I am a new user this will be harder, I will try to transcript from the screenshots I have taken, here we go:
1. You see this when you press the "Storage" tab in settings:
Storage
Rom information
Internal Rom 8192 MB
System 7528 MB
User Available 664 MB
Okay so, What does all this mean? Am I missing something obvious here? Internal Rom as I understand is the total memory the device has? And System is how much is currently being used as a total? User available is self explanatory. I am not new to flashing Android Roms and such, but this is confusing me for some reason. Moving on to the next image and closer to the main question
2 In the same "Storage" tab I see a section called:
Flash storage
Total space: 5.06 GB
Available: 664 MB
(And on it goes with how much storage the apps, pics and so on occupy)
As I understand, this Flash Storage is an emulated internal SD card or something
3. Another section is:
Internal storage
Total space: 0.98GB
Available: 287MB
Apps (SYSTEM APPS IN FACT) and cached data takes about 500MB
So that adds up to what? 6 GBs? As I understand 3 GB is hidden and used by the Android system?
The point of all this is this leaves me with like a half a GB to download apps and install them because they all go to internal storage and not flash storage or SD card. WTF? I am constantly having issues of low storage and when I reach a certain limit Google Play does not even let download apps. I can have the Flash storage as empty as I want and an SD card as large as I want but because the internal storage has only 300 MB available I am not able to download apps. I can download apps if there is free internal storage and move them to flash storage from the app manager, but the system still leaves some data in the Internal storage and I do not think I can move them to an SD card, so since when I move an app to the Flash storage and it leaves some data in Internal, I come to a point when it is full again and there is nothing I can do about it. I cant select the default write disk to be Flash stage or SD, but I think it is only for the camera, voice recorder and etc. How do I work around this? Is there a way to reparation the storage so there would be more space of Internal storage? Or maybe some thing else I could do? I can not even have apps like Facebook or the Google Docs that I need, I have to constancy clean cache so I cant at least get like 20 MB more.
Device is rooted, I can access device internal storage with ES file explorer.
If you have gotten this far, I thank you for reading my novel, I have tried to explain everything as clear as I can and to include as much info as I can, some of it might have been useless. Sorry for a long post.
No one has the answer?
Hi !
If the device has been rooted then some improper storage readings may occur
Install DiskInfo from playstore for a better image of your storage
You can use but be careful with SdMaid from playstore as well
Basically , a 8GB Rom is the total storage your device has been built with which actually means 7629.39 mb in real
From this amount , 3 gb may be the system which you can`t fill it up with user`s apps or personal files , the rest of it is the user`s space storage from which 500 mb is the cache
In the end , without any personal files or user`s apps , the amount of available storage may be 4291.53 mb so , try to remove all the personal (media) files away (audio , video, downloads ...) and check how much free space you`ll get
Your system may be capable of moving user`s app to flash storage but this is limited to certain folders like data folder of the application , the obb won`t move out
A good application is Apps2Sd from playstore but again , be very careful and properly read the xda`s thread before doing anything
Good luck !

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