Sony Xperia Z — New Android and Z5 User... - Xperia Z5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Morning all,
I have a Z5 being delivered tomorrow
I've been a Windows Phone user for the past 4 years, and prior to that iPhone, but never android - this is a new adventure!!
I have a few questions below, but mostly i'd just like people to post any tips for a new user that might be specific to the Z5 - there are loads of 'new android user' guides around but they all seem generic and quite low level...
Things that i'm interested in:
1) Is marshmallow out yet? If not, when can I expect it and how will i get it
2) What is rooting, and what benefits does it really give me?
2a) Can I install stock android on the Xperia Z5 by rooting? People seem to tell me that Stock is better than the stuff added by some manufacturers...
3) I'm primarily a microsoft services user (Outlook.com Email & Calendar / OneDrive / MS Band) - am I going to be able to as fully integrate these things as they were on Windows Phone?
Thanks!

vaderag said:
Morning all,
I have a Z5 being delivered tomorrow
I've been a Windows Phone user for the past 4 years, and prior to that iPhone, but never android - this is a new adventure!!
I have a few questions below, but mostly i'd just like people to post any tips for a new user that might be specific to the Z5 - there are loads of 'new android user' guides around but they all seem generic and quite low level...
Things that i'm interested in:
1) Is marshmallow out yet? If not, when can I expect it and how will i get it
2) What is rooting, and what benefits does it really give me?
2a) Can I install stock android on the Xperia Z5 by rooting? People seem to tell me that Stock is better than the stuff added by some manufacturers...
3) I'm primarily a microsoft services user (Outlook.com Email & Calendar / OneDrive / MS Band) - am I going to be able to as fully integrate these things as they were on Windows Phone?
Thanks!
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Hi.
1- more than likely you'll have to plug it in to a pc to get the update
2- root gives you access to the system, on the Z5 i personally wouldn't bother yet
2a - Sony is pretty much stock and not full of bloat
3- they have apps available so i assume all will be good
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Ben36 said:
Hi.
1- more than likely you'll have to plug it in to a pc to get the update
2- root gives you access to the system, on the Z5 i personally wouldn't bother yet
2a - Sony is pretty much stock and not full of bloat
3- they have apps available so i assume all will be good
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Thanks
Can I ask why you say not to bother on the Z5 (and why 'yet')?
Just trying to fully understand the pros and cons
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vaderag said:
Thanks
Can I ask why you say not to bother on the Z5 (and why 'yet')?
Just trying to fully understand the pros and cons
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Better to wait for root for locked bootloader, because you will need to unlock it if you want to root it now. Sony really loves to put their drm keys in there and if you unlock it, you'll lose the camera algorithms, bionz engine, x-reality and many more features. I prefer waiting than unlocking the bootloader.

Can anyone tell me if there is a way to add locks teen widgets? Reading around it seems this was disabled in marshmallow...

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[Q] A few questions from a noob

First I just want to say hello. I'm new to android and this is my first post. I have a few questions for you guys.
1. In switching from an iPhone 4 to android but I need some recommendations on a phone. I'm looking at the atrix, streak and inspire 4g. What do you recommend even if it's not one of those 3?
2. I have jailbroken my iPhones for the last 4 years but I know nothing about rooting. Can you point me to something that explains what it is, how it's done, advantages and disadvantages, if there's a difference between phones how it's done, and just some tips and tricks?
3. Anything that I didn't ask and you feel like I should know just post it.
Thanks in advance guys.
Rooting: http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root#You_never_know
Sorry I can't help with phone selection it is your task to choose one, but I can tell you what should you consider:
- the RAM should be about 512 MB
- Android version (2.2 or higher is the best)
- anything you think is important (camera for example)
1 - check gsmarena.com, youtube,etc and compare,check,etc and see what u need...personally i feel u should either go with HTC (since their phones have the most number of available roms,mods,etc) or go for the SGS or SGS2(i no its not yet out,but still)...atrix if motorola....btw, just check which devices have their own forums here and which have the highest threads and posts...cause that means u will have a lot of support for those respective phones..
2 - there are rooting guides for each phone,so you should get into that after u choose your phone,ul have all the info u need over here...besides, there are tons of other websites,fora and videos( read youtube ) giving basic as well as detailed info about rooting,etc, n trust me, once ur into it, theres no looking back, its the most fun thing ever to keep fiddling with ur phone!
3 - google google and google
What kind of requirements do you need? Full QWERTY keypad, camera, or do you have other requirements to the hardware or display size?
i do not want a physical keyboard. i want something fast and can be hacked quite a bit. im used to my iphone so something physically similar would be nice
Then maybe a Nexus S would be good for you
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[Q] Is there a Beginer's guide to everything about WP7

Hi,
I have just ordered a AT&T unlocked samsung focus WP7 handset. I live in India This is my first non-symbian purchase or for that matter i have not used anything but symbian all my life.
I want to know if there is a beginer's guide available for new users which will help me get the maximum out of my device. I dont want a guide on how to use WP7 but more on the lines of:
1) why is dev unlocking required? isn't the ecosystem similar to symbian's?
2) why or how should i update to the latest version
3) any specifics i should know about my device?
There is d quick start guide. Oh, and read d manual thoroughly..
Sent from my LG Optimus 7
1. dev unlocking allows for side loading home brew apps. This especially useful as it opens up possibilities for registry edits and other customizations not possible otherwise due to Wp7's locked down nature
2.all official updates will come to all existing devices through Zune. There are those impatient few who have found ways to get the future releases onto their devices early. Read through the many various threads to discover more on that topic
3. The focus is an awesome device. Best of the first Gen devices IMHO. There are two hardware revisions, 1.3 & 1.4. Sometimes this matters so you should know which you have. ( check under the the battery) make sure you read through the focus specific forum here on XDA for lots of information regarding the focus.
Welcome to WP7.
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[Q]Will we get Android L?

Hi guys, the quest is in the title
I want to know if with Android L we will get app2sd becouse the sd card is rly useless!
Bad english i know
Android L yes, app2sd is not probably but not impossible.
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lelf said:
Hi guys, the quest is in the title
I want to know if with Android L we will get app2sd becouse the sd card is rly useless!
Bad english i know
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yes of course we will.
but i think we will get it, with the release of the z4 next year...
Someone just notice that the led on the left up corner blink the border too and not just the point.
We'll most likely get Android L yeah, and most likely without full app2sd as this is a default android security thing.
We'll 100% Get Android L, i'm not sure about Moving apps to SD Card though
Android l doesn't include again native support app2sd. Make nosense build a smartphone with 16gb of internal memory that i'll full it with 3 or 4 gameloft game and can't use the external sd for install them. Well if there the drm problem will get solved with the root and sd cardfix or batter if there was a way to make a raid between both memory the problem doesn't subsist
we better get android L..... This phone is shipping with 4.4.4... no way it says 4.4.4 forever -.-
It will almost definitely get Android L. It's only just released and L is round the corner so the lifecycle of support for the Z3 will incorporate L (albeit delayed while Sony do their customisations). Of course, if you unlock the bootloader you can stick custom roms on and there will definitely be Android L roms available. Hopefully a root exploit will be found before that so we can unlock without losing the DRM keys.
3Shirts said:
It will almost definitely get Android L. It's only just released and L is round the corner so the lifecycle of support for the Z3 will incorporate L (albeit delayed while Sony do their customisations). Of course, if you unlock the bootloader you can stick custom roms on and there will definitely be Android L roms available. Hopefully a root exploit will be found before that so we can unlock without losing the DRM keys.
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Sony already announced that all the phones in the main Xperia line will be getting the upgrade to L, starting with the Z3 around February. Final code will be going up on November 3rd, so a few months after that, late winter/early spring for the official update.
App2SD, no idea. I've been surprisingly content with 32gb onboard on most of my devices, so I'm gonna worry about that problem much later.

What new android phone should I get?

Hi,
I'm using since many years a LG Optimus 4X HD rooted but with the stock Rom,
I did not find any custom ROM that would be half way up to date and would run well on it.
Now there is kind of a security SNAFU the Stagefright bug (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)) that king of makes continuing the use of the phone a No Go that is unless some one points me to a reliably working ROM that would have that bug fixed....
Anyways What new phone should I get to ensure I will not find my self in a similar situation for at least 5+ years using that phone. That means a long therm community support must be to be expected.
Yes I know thats a long time, but for me any non x86 device is just a toy that does not have to do much:
1. Navigation (Navigon)
2. VPN
3. RDP, VNC, ssh client
4. taking pictures
5. playing mp3
6. surfing the web
What I would else require would be a micro-SD card slot.
Now what sounds really well is the http://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone2.html but lets be honest for 530€ I can buy 3 to 4 reasonably cheep smartphoens each time with an up to date android on it. So the price is simply to high.
I would say that a reasonable price for me would be around 300€
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
David
DavidXanatos said:
Hi,
I'm using since many years a LG Optimus 4X HD rooted but with the stock Rom,
I did not find any custom ROM that would be half way up to date and would run well on it.
Now there is kind of a security SNAFU the Stagefright bug (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stagefright_(bug)) that king of makes continuing the use of the phone a No Go that is unless some one points me to a reliably working ROM that would have that bug fixed....
Anyways What new phone should I get to ensure I will not find my self in a similar situation for at least 5+ years using that phone. That means a long therm community support must be to be expected.
Yes I know thats a long time, but for me any non x86 device is just a toy that does not have to do much:
1. Navigation (Navigon)
2. VPN
3. RDP, VNC, ssh client
4. taking pictures
5. playing mp3
6. surfing the web
What I would else require would be a micro-SD card slot.
Now what sounds really well is the http://shop.fairphone.com/fairphone2.html but lets be honest for 530€ I can buy 3 to 4 reasonably cheep smartphoens each time with an up to date android on it. So the price is simply to high.
I would say that a reasonable price for me would be around 300€
Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated
David
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There's a thread for this here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846277

Less custom ROMS nowadays?

I have always used custom roms since my Xperia X10. The current phone I am running is a Samsung S8 but I have had several Sony's and always there has been choice in roms. I especially used to like modified stock roms for Sony's. I am looking at a new phone and am interested in the Xperia 5 II. To my surprise there are no custom roms, but the phone hasn't been on the market for that long. So I decided to see what custom roms are available for the Xperia 1 II. By coincidence, today a version of LineageOS has been released for the 1 II but before yesterday there was nothing...Not even anything about rooting. Then I went on to look at what is available for the Galaxy S20 only to find there is relatively little to choose from compared to a few years ago for the then latest or previous flagship model. So what's happened? Is there just a lot less want for custom roms? Have other ways been found to reach the same goals? For me, one of the most important things is that I want Xprivacy Lua installed. Besides that the Xposed repo had some nice modules, for which EdXposed should be used now. Also, I liked choosing a rom with nice custom functionality added and all bull**** stripped. Are there any ways to achieve these things? Or am I simply not able to find the information because of the new board?
_JT said:
Is there just a lot less want for custom roms? Have other ways been found to reach the same goals?
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Lack of device trees for the new devices.
Developers have to own the device to create them.
New file structures and layouts(?)
Maybe other stuff..
Plus Android/OEM Stock OS includes about every feature, setting, options you could need....
Yeah but for example there were overclocks, choices in odexed or deodexed, debloated roms with installer etc. And now that's all gone?
I also travelled the whole custom ROM journey by Sony (Ericsson) Xperia devices. Starting with X8 and ending with XZ1 compact. And it was fun to choose between different features, custom layouts, rooting and even go the overclocking route.
At the beginning of Android era features like overclocking have been essential on non flagship phones to get decent performance. Also there have been mods like fake multitouch for single-touch Xperia X8.
But nowadays with mature Android most of this stuff is not required any longer. My XZ1c was still rooted through Magisk but the only proper use for it was AdAway. Today there are even non-root DNS ad blockers, so that is not an argument for me anymore.
Regarding custom ROMs I think it's getting more complex with every new stock android feature to maintain compatibility. Also with the introduction of SafetyNet many of the modern phones are useless with regard to safety critical apps like banking ones as soon as you switch to inoffical builds.
In my opinion the interest might have decreased for these reasons. I don't want to spend hours on getting my phone SafetyNet compliant after rooting just to enable a feature thats available without rooting (ad block in my case). Neither do I want to loose certificates for DRM stuff (which got erased in Sony devices while unlocking BL). Finally I am happy with stock ROMs by now. And for R&D purposes I still have old phones lying around which are easier to maintain with regard to SafetyNet because the hardware does not support deep attestation.
Personally I switched to Samsung S10e because Sony decided to ditch compact phones and rather releases strange 9000:1 aspect ratio devices.

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