I'm new to Android. I've an S7 Exynos version that I bought recently. But it wasn't a pleasant experience as I expected from last year's refined flagship. Having some little annoying issues made me to think whether I should return device and get a replacement within the 7 return day return period that is gonna end by FRIDAY 18/3/2016.. Here are some issues I'm seeing with my S7 Exynos version[tried my best to make it to the point ],
I've an 100mbps network. The WiFi speed is not as expected. My G4 easily pulls off near 90mbps while S7 always end up in a bit less around 80mbps. Is this an hardware issue or just touchwiz problems?
I was using MXPlayer and then browsing a bit in chrome and pressed home button and then device completely froze(video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1UChZaaw58) immediately after a short stutter. Searching the web to find a solution, I found that pressing vol.down+power to restart will help. I see from the the websites that not many people have/had this issue. So, Is this something part of a defective unit?
Screen is turning on when receiving an text(SMS) message. No other notifications are affecting it. Is this an Touchwiz thing?
Occasional wakeup delay. This has been discussed in another thread and acknowledged as this mostly can be the problem caused by the SD Card. I've an 128GB Samsung Evo+ card. Not sure still it's caused by that high class SD card or IS IT?
Idle temp being 29C. Sometimes just browsing for very short period of time can raise it by 30C. Is it normal?
Also please refer to this spreadsheet(https://goo.gl/IXSw7N) with the data of battery and temperature values in gaming session as well as streaming session. The device's metal sides did get hot for touch. Kindly say whether everything is normal considering both temperature and battery decline . (Please note that the CPU temperatures are measured with this app https://goo.gl/qD8ToR , don't know how far it's accurate)
In outdoor situations S7 seems to mess up the color saturation by adding a bit white-ishness to the display making the blacks look black a bit more greyish. Is this is how it'll react to bright light?
I see only 2 cores being idle in device's idle state. Is this how it'll be?
When receiving a notification the LED first turns up red and then some other color. Again, TouchWiz thing?
Having an SD Card notification every time I restart the device. Part of Marshmallow?
Expecting a quick reply. Thanks
1. must be your router, mine is flying at 300mbps
2. i had one freeze in twitter the other day, never had it in my previous phone, im sure future software updates will fix this issue
3. try googles messenger, maybe the stock one is waking up the phone for whatever reason
4. using the same evo+ card, no delay here, again maybe future updates will fix this
5. 30c is nothing, other phones idle higher than that
6. completely normal, other phones heat up just as much if not more
7. try a different display mode, the stock adaptive one most likely changes based out outside lighting
8. i notice 2 cores sleeping while the other 6 cores are idling
9. i noticed the same thing, not sure whose at fault
10. dont restart?
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Have you tried a factory reset. It's usually the first thing I do when I receive a new phone.
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1. must be your router, mine is flying at 300mbps
2. i had one freeze in twitter the other day, never had it in my previous phone, im sure future software updates will fix this issue
3. try googles messenger, maybe the stock one is waking up the phone for whatever reason
4. using the same evo+ card, no delay here, again maybe future updates will fix this
5. 30c is nothing, other phones idle higher than that
6. completely normal, other phones heat up just as much if not more
7. try a different display mode, the stock adaptive one most likely changes based out outside lighting
8. i notice 2 cores sleeping while the other 6 cores are idling
9. i noticed the same thing, not sure whose at fault
10. dont restart?
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Thanks for the quick reply @peachpuff
1. I haven't configured QoS or anything in my router to get this type of effect only in my S7 while my other devices including couple of other android devices and laptops works fine. Any idea?
2. By 'freeze' you mean the same kind of 'freeze' I experienced with the device as in the video? That is the device getting unresponsive to anything like even capacitive button touches, home button press and power button long press?
4. No delay in your device? Here is my delay(video link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXWhSjNDATA). Then, Could this be device's hardware issue?
PS: While 'Poweramp' is running in background there is no delay in waking the device. How is that?
6. Yeah. You are right. Other device idle higher than that. Can be the metal edges getting the heat easily felt by hand. What's your device idling at using the same temp. app(if in case it makes any difference)?
7. You didn't encounter any such circumstances @ outdoors?
8. Maybe I used a wrong technical term in the question. Anyway here is the pic of CPUs at idle state(https://goo.gl/37GqAX). Normal?
10. LOL. You have the same issue? Try restarting and check pls.
Expecting a quick reply. Thanks
2. yes it was a hard freeze, but holding the power button for 5 secs turned it off.
4. mine wakes up way quicker
6. mine is at 26c, but you're in dubai, its a bit hotter there
7. haven't noticed that, but again maybe the sun is a wee bit stronger where you are
8. mine is identical, scroll up and down quickly and the last 2 cores will wake up
10. yes i see the notification after every reboot, but i rarely turn the phone off and it doesn't come back
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2. yes it was a hard freeze, but holding the power button for 5 secs turned it off.
4. mine wakes up way quicker
6. mine is at 26c, but you're in dubai, its a bit hotter there
7. haven't noticed that, but again maybe the sun is a wee bit stronger where you are
8. mine is identical, scroll up and down quickly and the last 2 cores will wake up
10. yes i see the notification after every reboot, but i rarely turn the phone off and it doesn't come back
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2. Mine didn't turn off as in the video even I had pressed it for about 10 secs. How is this case different? You have auto-restart enabled?
3. So could this be an issue with device or anything related to the high speed SD Card? Also here is an interesting fact I found out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ii5GgSBktI
BTW it's not that hot here it's just 24C
How did you get it to unfreeze then, did it unfreeze by itself? Holding the power button for 5-10 secs should always power down the phone no matter what.
Are you using an sd card, does the same thing happen without one?
peachpuff said:
How did you get it to unfreeze then, did it unfreeze by itself? Holding the power button for 5-10 secs should always power down the phone no matter what.
Are you using an sd card, does the same thing happen without one?
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I used vol.down+power as mentioned in the OP to restart.
I will check now without SD card even though some users had reported that it didn't make any difference.
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How did you get it to unfreeze then, did it unfreeze by itself? Holding the power button for 5-10 secs should always power down the phone no matter what.
Are you using an sd card, does the same thing happen without one?
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Even after removing the SD card I have delay. What to do?
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There's a thread about it here http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/galaxy-s7-slow-to-wake-t3326304 haven't looked through it but the last resort would be to either flash the stock image or do a factory reset, delete your google accounts before you do this.
Would doing that void my warranty? Can't I just get a replacement?
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7. This is Normal. Since the Galaxy S6 Samsung has decided to add a feature that literally makes your screen Brighter even manual Max brightness when in direct sunlight to make it easier to see the phone through the super reflective glass. I think this is only done on Adaptive Display setting and it also makes colors brighter and saturated differently. Dark Red on youtube for instance will look more like a bloody bright Cherry red. For example.
Try switching the Display mode to see if it will turn that feature off.
Johno_Jan said:
7. This is Normal. Since the Galaxy S6 Samsung has decided to add a feature that literally makes your screen Brighter even manual Max brightness when in direct sunlight to make it easier to see the phone through the super reflective glass. I think this is only done on Adaptive Display setting and it also makes colors brighter and saturated differently. Dark Red on youtube for instance will look more like a bloody bright Cherry red. For example.
Try switching the Display mode to see if it will turn that feature off.
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Ok. You experiencing the wakeup delay?
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Ok. You experiencing the wakeup delay?
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No wake delay for me
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No wake delay for me
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Which SD card are you using?
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No SD card. I have yet to buy one lol.
Johno_Jan said:
No SD card. I have yet to buy one lol.
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When watching YouTube itself the CPU Temp. goes upto 35C and the metal sides all around feels hot. When gaming for about 20mins(NFS/Dead Trigger 2) it tops at 38C. How is yours?
@Sarun said:
When watching YouTube itself the CPU Temp. goes upto 35C and the metal sides all around feels hot. When gaming for about 20mins(NFS/Dead Trigger 2) it tops at 38C. How is yours?
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I actually posted about this.
My phone feels hot to the touch when just browsing the web, and it drains my battery.
How do you check your phone temp?
I just have GSAM battery monitor app and it tells you the battery temperature but i dont know if that is the same as what you're measuring
Johno_Jan said:
I actually posted about this.
My phone feels hot to the touch when just browsing the web, and it drains my battery.
How do you check your phone temp?
I just have GSAM battery monitor app and it tells you the battery temperature but i dont know if that is the same as what you're measuring
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Use CPU Temp( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en ) for both CPU & Battery Temp. Also don't use GSam as far as now(without root) It's completely useless and will be simply running in the background. BTW I've excellent battery life, near 6hours SOT.
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Use CPU Temp( https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yanyan.cputemp&hl=en ) for both CPU & Battery Temp. Also don't use GSam as far as now(without root) It's completely useless and will be simply running in the background. BTW I've excellent battery life, near 6hours SOT.
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Hmm I didn't know about GSAM. Actuallt I just noticed that my SOT in the stock battery settings is 3 hrs 50 min but GSAM is reporting 5 hrs!! What the heck.
Okay I'll install CPU Temp.
My phone is getting warm already just by typing this reply. Im thinking something is up with the cores. It shouldnt be using a fast cpu speed for web browsing right?
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engadget.com/2010/07/03/nexus-one-sees-red-nearly-doubles-battery-life-video/
i know theres a big difference between AMOLED and super LCD, but if there a way to switch to this mode to save battery i would use it all the time.
Someone mentioned that blacks use less power on the captivate screen. Is this true?
Black does use less battery, as it basically turns those pixels off, and the displace does use most of the battery life.
I personally have had ever increasing battery life, and I have never had trouble getting a full 24 hours. Be sure to run down the batter to 0% and charge up without it being powered on. Continue to experiment and it will more than likely improve over time.
lourivellini said:
engadget.com/2010/07/03/nexus-one-sees-red-nearly-doubles-battery-life-video/
i know theres a big difference between AMOLED and super LCD, but if there a way to switch to this mode to save battery i would use it all the time.
Someone mentioned that blacks use less power on the captivate screen. Is this true?
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I'm not quite sure why you're mentioned super LCD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nexus One has an AMOLED screen. We have Super AMOLED screens on the Captivate. Of the COLORS, yes red drains battery the least (it's also the one that affects your night vision the least, bonus trivia). But black drains even less, since, with SAMOLED, it just means the pixels are "off"
If you want to save battery life, make your background all black and hit the sleep button every time you set your phone down.
Disable GPS off you dont need it.
Turn off Wifi off you dont need it.
Turn the auto brightness adjust off. Control it manually.
Keep track of running background programs.
Dont use live wall paper or bright colored backgrounds. just use the plain black.
ConceptVBS said:
Disable GPS off you dont need it.
Turn off Wifi off you dont need it.
Turn the auto brightness adjust off. Control it manually.
Keep track of running background programs.
Dont use live wall paper or bright colored backgrounds. just use the plain black.
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Also, know that you can swipe the notification bar left/right to adjust your brightness. Very handy!
lourivellini said:
engadget.com/2010/07/03/nexus-one-sees-red-nearly-doubles-battery-life-video/
i know theres a big difference between AMOLED and super LCD, but if there a way to switch to this mode to save battery i would use it all the time.
Someone mentioned that blacks use less power on the captivate screen. Is this true?
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Just flash your phone to the JH2 firmware!! I used to get 9 to 10 hours max out of this battery, now it lasts so much longer with a good amount of use. Last night it went almost 17 hours before I charged it and it still had like 3% left.
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The JH2 firmware makes your screen consume less battery because the auto adjust brightness is lower than before.
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turn the wifi sleep policy to NEVER
wifi uses A LOT less power than 3G
Kaik541 said:
I'm not quite sure why you're mentioned super LCD. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Nexus One has an AMOLED screen. We have Super AMOLED screens on the Captivate. Of the COLORS, yes red drains battery the least (it's also the one that affects your night vision the least, bonus trivia). But black drains even less, since, with SAMOLED, it just means the pixels are "off"
If you want to save battery life, make your background all black and hit the sleep button every time you set your phone down.
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Sorry meant to write super AMOLED. I have been using a all black background and put the brightness all the way down. I would just like to have the red pixel option. I would like to switch to that to squeeze out more battery like in times when i really could care less how my display looks. And having a black background wont matter when im pulling up stuff that has colors in it and you cant see the background. im probably being nuts and for 90% of people this is going overboard, but id like to at least have the option.
djgleebs said:
Be sure to run down the batter to 0% and charge up without it being powered on. Continue to experiment and it will more than likely improve over time.
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Really? I've had my current captivate (returned the first) for about 4 days now and i never let it go past like 20%. Should i be doing this? and how long do i have to do it for?
mesasone said:
Also, know that you can swipe the notification bar left/right to adjust your brightness. Very handy!
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I love you, this is friggin awesome.
I've been on JH2, im thinkin about giving bugless beast a try.
So no chance of having this feature on the captivate? (the red pixels)
and also just to make sure the pixels are "off" i just made an all black background in paint. Is there a big difference if i switch to one of the stock wallpapers that is mostly black? Or is all black a lot better?
in case anyone wants it, this is a wallpaper i've been using, i borrowed from someone on the MT3G forum almost a year ago, he put it up for others for this very reason - power savings with some visual whatever you want to call it
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lourivellini said:
Sorry meant to write super AMOLED. I have been using a all black background and put the brightness all the way down. I would just like to have the red pixel option. I would like to switch to that to squeeze out more battery like in times when i really could care less how my display looks. And having a black background wont matter when im pulling up stuff that has colors in it and you cant see the background. im probably being nuts and for 90% of people this is going overboard, but id like to at least have the option.
Really? I've had my current captivate (returned the first) for about 4 days now and i never let it go past like 20%. Should i be doing this? and how long do i have to do it for?
I love you, this is friggin awesome.
I've been on JH2, im thinkin about giving bugless beast a try.
So no chance of having this feature on the captivate? (the red pixels)
and also just to make sure the pixels are "off" i just made an all black background in paint. Is there a big difference if i switch to one of the stock wallpapers that is mostly black? Or is all black a lot better?
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You only need to let the battery run down to zero once (maybe twice) to help calibrate the battery sensor (some people do not even believe it needs to be done once). Anyway, if you do it to much then it could lessen the lifespan of your battery because long charges heat the battery more, and heat powns the **** outta li-ion batterys.
larryccf said:
in case anyone wants it, this is a wallpaper i've been using, i borrowed from someone on the MT3G forum almost a year ago, he put it up for others for this very reason - power savings with some visual whatever you want to call it
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got a question about that background and others like it.. I know black is supposed to use none, and red uses less, but wouldn't total black use MUCH less power than a shade lighter?
For example: a screen that is completely black is almost the same as the phone screen being off, as opposed to a slightly lighter screen which every pixel is turned on.
Right now my home screen has no icons on it and i have a completely black background. Am i going overboard? lol
Lithium Ion batteries will degrade much faster when deep discharged. Its a non reversable chemical reaction. That being said; the more often you charge and the less you let the battery drain down the better battery life you will have in the future.
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sdimezq8 said:
Lithium Ion batteries will degrade much faster when deep discharged. Its a non reversable chemical reaction. That being said; the more often you charge and the less you let the battery drain down the better battery life you will have in the future.
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um i been running pandora with the screen on and the brightness all the way up for about 5 hours in an effort to run my battery to zero (once)
should i stop now? im at 7%
I have let mine run down to 0% about 3 times. It always says I have over 20% after plugging it in for very little time. Kinda annoying.
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Whenever I get a new device, or replace a battery, I always do at least 3 to 5 full power cycles to set the gague and burn in the battery. After that, it is best if you can keep it above 20%, but with smartphones and their owners being what they are these days, that can be next to impossible. Just do the initial drain and charge a couple times and then keep it charged when you can and try not to worry too much about the battery life. Most likely, you'll still have 80% when it's time to switch phones. Or you can buy a replacement fairly cheap. Heck, Samsung is directly selling a replacement batter with a desk charger for about $50. I'm sure you could find a cheaper battery by itself somewhere.
lost2030 said:
The JH2 firmware makes your screen consume less battery because the auto adjust brightness is lower than before.
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Good.i always thought the main reason I was getting poor battery life was because the galaxy auto brightness setting was way too high.
lourivellini said:
got a question about that background and others like it.. I know black is supposed to use none, and red uses less, but wouldn't total black use MUCH less power than a shade lighter?
For example: a screen that is completely black is almost the same as the phone screen being off, as opposed to a slightly lighter screen which every pixel is turned on.
Right now my home screen has no icons on it and i have a completely black background. Am i going overboard? lol
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yes you are.
Enjoy your phone man. I can get a full day out of it and then some, and im using the Galaxy live wallpaper with Icons everywhere
iamamp3pimp said:
yes you are.
Enjoy your phone man. I can get a full day out of it and then some, and im using the Galaxy live wallpaper with Icons everywhere
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haha yea i had a feeling, id still like to know though. Ive toned down the insanity a bit, but in times when i really need to squeeze every bit out of the battery id like to know.
Also, ive found that when i lower the brightness to the lowest setting it somehow creeps back up a bit. Is there a way to disable the swipe feature to control brightness? i think i must be changing the brightness when i pull the bar down or something.
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Turn off Wifi off you dont need it.
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Wifi saves your battery over 3G, plus saves your data plan
lourivellini said:
Right now my home screen has no icons on it and i have a completely black background. Am i going overboard? lol
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Wouldn;t that mean to get any function from your phone, you have to go to a different screen? Might as well take function, over a probably minor gain in battery life.
I have been having really terrible battery on my AT&T HTC One X. I have had it for over a month now and it has not lasted nearly as long as some other users who posted their battery stats.
I have tried several things to try to improve my battery, including turning off auto-sync and turning off the mobile network for almost all day long. I have tried stock, CleanROM 3.1 DE, and Sick Sense HOXL (in which I used the CPU editor to set it to battery saver mode). I have been able to stretch the battery life out to last about an hour extra with the CPU editor, but still nowhere near where I have seen others at.
My battery lasts about 14-15 hours maximum and about 2 hours of screen usage at most, but that is rare. Some days my battery lasts less than 10 hours and not even an hour of screen time. On these days the battery will drop 3%-5% at a time, sometimes even 10% at a time.
I really don't want to go to AT&T and exchange the phone if I don't have to, but I do have a warranty on it. I get a high percentage of screen use and am not sure if that is normal. Could it possibly be that my screen is not completely turning off?
I am posting pics and a logcat file to help determine the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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I have looked through the forum to see if there is anything related, but most seem to say their battery gets hot. I don't have that problem. Maybe it is just AT&T's LTE that drains the battery too quickly? I want to be sure there is nothing wrong with the phone though because some days it drops way too quickly. If I turn off the phone and turn it back on, I lost a tremendous amount of battery. It seems weird to me.
lstriker1 said:
I have looked through the forum to see if there is anything related, but most seem to say their battery gets hot. I don't have that problem. Maybe it is just AT&T's LTE that drains the battery too quickly? I want to be sure there is nothing wrong with the phone though because some days it drops way too quickly. If I turn off the phone and turn it back on, I lost a tremendous amount of battery. It seems weird to me.
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Its the LTE.
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Chrome was murdering my battery before the update, now it still kills it. I did a full run with it install. I never opened it and it used 10% of my battery. Doesn't seem like that's your problem though. But just monitor for any rogue apps.
I've been using Bad ass Battery stats to keep track of stuff. Its been a bit helpful but like you, I get about 15 -20 hours before I have to consider plugging it in. Some weather Widgets really kick the crap out of the battery so keep that in mind.
Idk how people pull off these 24hrs+ times but I'm a bit jealous.
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Turn off LTE. Then come back.
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Turn off LTE. Then come back.
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I have tried the APN method to switch off LTE, but the method is sort of unreliable as it drops the network too frequently. I tried it for a day, but the results were similar. Any other method or should I just test it for longer?
theking_13 said:
Turn off LTE. Then come back.
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That's ridiculous. This phone was designed for LTE use...
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lstriker1 said:
I have tried the APN method to switch off LTE, but the method is sort of unreliable as it drops the network too frequently. I tried it for a day, but the results were similar. Any other method or should I just test it for longer?
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I used this method for a while as well, but yes, the network drops are annoying. The battery on the One X is very inconsistent. You may want to try swapping your unit to see if you can do better.
Another thing, there are issues with LTE when you drop/regain signal, it starts draining like crazy sometimes.
I'm still trying to determine if I've got a defective unit or not. My battery drains fast, but maybe I'm to blame?
From 100% charge, I'm down to 45% after 4.5 hours, 2 hours and 20 minutes of screen time.
54% screen
27% calls
7% chrome
6% maps (why the hell is this always running anyway?)
Any thoughts?
-V
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Vendetta-NY said:
I'm still trying to determine if I've got a defective unit or not. My battery drains fast, but maybe I'm to blame?
From 100% charge, I'm down to 45% after 4.5 hours, 2 hours and 20 minutes of screen time.
54% screen
27% calls
7% chrome
6% maps (why the hell is this always running anyway?)
Any thoughts?
-V
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Weather widgets usually use the Maps app.
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lstriker1 said:
I have been having really terrible battery on my AT&T HTC One X. I have had it for over a month now and it has not lasted nearly as long as some other users who posted their battery stats.
I have tried several things to try to improve my battery, including turning off auto-sync and turning off the mobile network for almost all day long. I have tried stock, CleanROM 3.1 DE, and Sick Sense HOXL (in which I used the CPU editor to set it to battery saver mode). I have been able to stretch the battery life out to last about an hour extra with the CPU editor, but still nowhere near where I have seen others at.
My battery lasts about 14-15 hours maximum and about 2 hours of screen usage at most, but that is rare. Some days my battery lasts less than 10 hours and not even an hour of screen time. On these days the battery will drop 3%-5% at a time, sometimes even 10% at a time.
I really don't want to go to AT&T and exchange the phone if I don't have to, but I do have a warranty on it. I get a high percentage of screen use and am not sure if that is normal. Could it possibly be that my screen is not completely turning off?
I am posting pics and a logcat file to help determine the issue. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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There really are tons of threads talking about this, with battery temperature comments only being a fraction of those. search for the Battery Stats XL Edition thread. Not only does it have a ton of reports on good battery life, but TONS of info on how people achieve that and what they have found ot be helpful. There are numerous other threads you can find in a search. I have only seen one scenario where my battery drains remarkably quickly, and that's an issue with my corporate exchange email and is pretty sporadic (1 time every couple weeks, maybe slightly more).
Looks like you have one image in the OP that shows an extensive amount of WiFi-on time. that can really drain. screen brightness is another thing. I stay at 20% max,less if i can handle it. The app Brightness Toggle Widget is AWESOME for me...simple and makes it easy to keep phone at 20% (my normal level) but increase as ambient lighting dictates (like being outside). here are some more basic suggestions that i use to maintain easily a full day+ of battery. (running stock sense).
-disabled crapware (most att services, city id, google stuff I dont use, etc.)
-20% brightness most of the time
-wi-fi, GPS, BT off unless needed (LTE burns anyway!)
-syncing 1 gmail, 1 exchange account
-only running a couple of live widgets
-disabled live weather in pretty much every place possible as this can fry battery
-swipe away unused apps relatively frequently
these are mega-basic ideas but i've had no consistent battery problems and get great life. also, check your full charge voltage level using *#*#4636#*#* and confirm you are starting around 4187mV and have a healthy battery. it's also remarkably possible that you just got a phone with a poor battery/battery function. another thought is that i see you pulling some pretty low cell signal (only 1 bar LTE in one of those shots, 3 in a few others). That's not great and could kill more battery that you can easily tell. I'm in LTE and rarely see as little as 3 bars of service. if you are on the fringe of good signal that can really do you in. checked log file and nothing jumps out, but i'm not the most reliable source for interpreting that data. hope this helps in some way.
jspidey said:
Weather widgets usually use the Maps app.
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I disabled that realtime updating for the weather component of the clock.
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There really are tons of threads talking about this, with battery temperature comments only being a fraction of those. search for the Battery Stats XL Edition thread. Not only does it have a ton of reports on good battery life, but TONS of info on how people achieve that and what they have found ot be helpful. There are numerous other threads you can find in a search. I have only seen one scenario where my battery drains remarkably quickly, and that's an issue with my corporate exchange email and is pretty sporadic (1 time every couple weeks, maybe slightly more).
Looks like you have one image in the OP that shows an extensive amount of WiFi-on time. that can really drain. screen brightness is another thing. I stay at 20% max,less if i can handle it. The app Brightness Toggle Widget is AWESOME for me...simple and makes it easy to keep phone at 20% (my normal level) but increase as ambient lighting dictates (like being outside). here are some more basic suggestions that i use to maintain easily a full day+ of battery. (running stock sense).
-disabled crapware (most att services, city id, google stuff I dont use, etc.)
-20% brightness most of the time
-wi-fi, GPS, BT off unless needed (LTE burns anyway!)
-syncing 1 gmail, 1 exchange account
-only running a couple of live widgets
-disabled live weather in pretty much every place possible as this can fry battery
-swipe away unused apps relatively frequently
these are mega-basic ideas but i've had no consistent battery problems and get great life. also, check your full charge voltage level using *#*#4636#*#* and confirm you are starting around 4187mV and have a healthy battery. it's also remarkably possible that you just got a phone with a poor battery/battery function. another thought is that i see you pulling some pretty low cell signal (only 1 bar LTE in one of those shots, 3 in a few others). That's not great and could kill more battery that you can easily tell. I'm in LTE and rarely see as little as 3 bars of service. if you are on the fringe of good signal that can really do you in. checked log file and nothing jumps out, but i'm not the most reliable source for interpreting that data. hope this helps in some way.
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I have most bloatware disabled, at least everything that I was capable of disabling. My brightness is set to auto, I can try with it lower and see how that works (still not sure why my screen percentage shows to be so high, I have seen others with the phone and it stays much much lower like 20-30% and over 3 hours of use). I have auto-sync off and no live widgets running, I only use the sense clock/weather widget, but weather doesn't update unless I manually open it since auto-sync is off. I am also constantly swiping away unused apps and the only one that is ever really open is messaging because I use it more than anything else.
I really don't want to go swap my phone out unless there really is a problem with it, which is why I posted here. I need to find out of it is something hardware related, such as a defective battery or screen, rather than software related and capable of fixing.
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I really don't want to go swap my phone out unless there really is a problem with it, which is why I posted here. I need to find out of it is something hardware related, such as a defective battery or screen, rather than software related and capable of fixing.
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Same here. Like, exactly.
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Try going into wifi/advanced and disable "Best Wi-Fi performance"
Enabled kills my batter. Disabled gets me through a day and half easily
Starting off, I'm not sure if this is the right area but it is a (question) and yes it may lead to a HUGE thread but I would like to hopefully help myself and others with this topic? When it comes to battery life and extending it, what do you do like do you delete certain ROM programs that (don't) affect the ROM itself also, do you run special apps such as 'Juice Defender' etc...? I am on 'Viper 2.0' ROM and get great life just with the basic ROM features but I did also flash 'Experimental Kernel' as well which does help, just want to get the most out of my One S also see some members reporting that they get a full day or more out of one charge without topping it off so yeah lets help each other?
Thanks, TC
I generally get more than one day of power out of my One S with moderate use and to achieve that I keep the screen brightness level down, I keep location services off unless I am using the phone for navigation, I choose not to turn wi-fi on in most instances since it eats up more battery than the 4g data connection and I use a dark theme and background since brighter colors require more power to keep lit up. I also have disabled apps that I know I will not use. (I would have uninstalled them but I am not rooted since I am still waiting for the offical Jellybean OTA.) I'm no expert on this matter but I would imagine having less things running in the background has to help battery life. Setting the volume to a moderate level as opposed to having it really high probably helps but won't make a huge difference. That's all I have to share on this matter. Hope this helps.
Im just running stock CM10 kernel with everything DarkJelly came with. In other words - I havnt done anything.
My S drains 9% over night (12-13h, I sleep a lot ), and drains the battery 100% -> 15% in roughly 2-2.5h when playing heavy games with USB controller connected and wifi turned on.
I havnt actually measured it for every day usage, but I estimate it would last 7-8h doing light work with wifi off, 5-6h with wifi on.
I have screen brightness at min (otherwise my eyes would start bleeding lol)
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Im just running stock CM10 kernel with everything DarkJelly came with. In other words - I havnt done anything.
My S drains 9% over night (12-13h, I sleep a lot ), and drains the battery 100% -> 15% in roughly 2-2.5h when playing heavy games with USB controller connected and wifi turned on.
I havnt actually measured it for every day usage, but I estimate it would last 7-8h doing light work with wifi off, 5-6h with wifi on.
I have screen brightness at min (otherwise my eyes would start bleeding lol)
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Sleep is under rated lol, thanks for response
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Im just running stock CM10 kernel with everything DarkJelly came with. In other words - I havnt done anything.
My S drains 9% over night (12-13h, I sleep a lot ), and drains the battery 100% -> 15% in roughly 2-2.5h when playing heavy games with USB controller connected and wifi turned on.
I havnt actually measured it for every day usage, but I estimate it would last 7-8h doing light work with wifi off, 5-6h with wifi on.
I have screen brightness at min (otherwise my eyes would start bleeding lol)
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Sleep is under rated lol, thanks for response
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More like overrated, plenty of time to sleep when I die.
Just a few thoughts on battery life:
- first and most important of all:
Charge your phone until it's fully loaded. Sounds quite simple but isn't that easy. You should know that while charging your phone your LED will turn green as soon as it reaches 100%. But it typically needs another 30 to 60 minutes to charge to the max, usually on an average of +50 to +25 mA. Max charge I can achieve on my device is 4230 mV. After nearly one year of use I still can get pretty close to that, but no longer every time I'm charging. But that's ok.
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Use available powersave settings on your phone. Usually disabling HTC SmartSync will result into higher battery drain during night time as all connections will stay on. I don't know exactly what's being affected by enabling this feature (I think wifi and mobile date will be turned off and on again, if needed, also cpu will be on a different governor and not scaling up that fast and much) but to my experience I didn't miss any call, any sms, any mail or whatsoever. The device doesn't even feel less snappy at all. It simply still works as it should.
And if you want even more, enable powersave mode in settings -> power. By the time writing this, this feature is part of HTCs Jelly Bean sense UI and no sources for the kernel are available. As a couple of things is hardcoded into that kernel and can't be reliably changed from 'outside', things might change in the future when sources become available. Either to the better or worse in these cases.
- use fast dormancy, if your provider supports it.
Otherwise simply disable that feature. If your provider supports it, fast dormancy will keep you connected to the network at lowest possible power consumption. If not and you've enabled that feature, your phone will always be searching for it at max performance. You can watch your battery draining...
- wifi connections
It's big fun to walk through the streets, finding every wifi spot in your neighbourhood and trying to connect to it, you think? I don't. I want my device to connect only to known spots and have it succesfully logged in there and not wasting power for finding useless connections. So I decided to use tasker for that purpose. A little script just enables wifi search coming close to my home or any other useful location by simply watching my home cell towers nearby. And what's even better, if successfully connected to my home wifi, it simply switches off mobile data, to switch it back on, when I'm leaving home. If you still don't know tasker, search for it on google play and find scripts on it's home page. I won't make this a tasker thread.
- blue tooth connections
If you don't use it, simply switch it off.
- screen on time
Black is beautiful, especially on amoled screens as it consumes less or no power at all. Using black backgrounds and inverted apps you're on the right side. I can't say whether auto brightness or setting brightness manually is more advantageous, it simply depends on your needs.
- the right governor
Choosing the right governor is also important. If you want a most snappy device, look for governors scaling up lightning fast and staying on max speed a little longer than others and scaling down slowly (e.g. interactivex2). But they need a lot of battery power, so they should be preferred for light or moderate use only. If saving battery is most important to you, you should choose a conservative based governor. You'll find some very good descriptions over here at CPU Governors explained.
- find power consuming apps
This is another very important thing. Sometimes apps stay active in the backgruond even if they are not in use. For identifying these you will usually need another additional app that records power consumation or online time. The HTC thing in one word is crap. I'm using android tuners statistic for that, but there are plenty of others for free to be found on google play. To get a right view of the things going on, you should check these statistics after a longer period without loading or switching off/on your device, as they usually reset your statistics.
If you find an app or widget draining your battery above average, check in it's settings if it's possible to set lower refresh intervalls, invert colors or whatever seems useful to you for reducing power drain. And think of using alternative apps if that's not possible or doesn't work the way you want.
Last not least I added a zipfile, showing my battery drain last night for about eight hours. Typically not more than 3%. Between 11 PM to 8 AM.
rootrider said:
Just a few thoughts on battery life:
- first and most important of all:
Charge your phone until it's fully loaded. Sounds quite simple but isn't that easy. You should know that while charging your phone your LED will turn green as soon as it reaches 100%. But it typically needs another 30 to 60 minutes to charge to the max, usually on an average of +50 to +25 mA. Max charge I can achieve on my device is 4230 mV. After nearly one year of use I still can get pretty close to that, but no longer every time I'm charging. But that's ok.
- second is:
Use available powersave settings on your phone. Usually disabling HTC SmartSync will result into higher battery drain during night time as all connections will stay on. I don't know exactly what's being affected by enabling this feature (I think wifi and mobile date will be turned off and on again, if needed, also cpu will be on a different governor and not scaling up that fast and much) but to my experience I didn't miss any call, any sms, any mail or whatsoever. The device doesn't even feel less snappy at all. It simply still works as it should.
And if you want even more, enable powersave mode in settings -> power. By the time writing this, this feature is part of HTCs Jelly Bean sense UI and no sources for the kernel are available. As a couple of things is hardcoded into that kernel and can't be reliably changed from 'outside', things might change in the future when sources become available. Either to the better or worse in these cases.
- use fast dormancy, if your provider supports it.
Otherwise simply disable that feature. If your provider supports it, fast dormancy will keep you connected to the network at lowest possible power consumption. If not and you've enabled that feature, your phone will always be searching for it at max performance. You can watch your battery draining...
- wifi connections
It's big fun to walk through the streets, finding every wifi spot in your neighbourhood and trying to connect to it, you think? I don't. I want my device to connect only to known spots and have it succesfully logged in there and not wasting power for finding useless connections. So I decided to use tasker for that purpose. A little script just enables wifi search coming close to my home or any other useful location by simply watching my home cell towers nearby. And what's even better, if successfully connected to my home wifi, it simply switches off mobile data, to switch it back on, when I'm leaving home. If you still don't know tasker, search for it on google play and find scripts on it's home page. I won't make this a tasker thread.
- blue tooth connections
If you don't use it, simply switch it off.
- screen on time
Black is beautiful, especially on amoled screens as it consumes less or no power at all. Using black backgrounds and inverted apps you're on the right side. I can't say whether auto brightness or setting brightness manually is more advantageous, it simply depends on your needs.
- the right governor
Choosing the right governor is also important. If you want a most snappy device, look for governors scaling up lightning fast and staying on max speed a little longer than others and scaling down slowly (e.g. interactivex2). But they need a lot of battery power, so they should be preferred for light or moderate use only. If saving battery is most important to you, you should choose a conservative based governor. You'll find some very good descriptions over here at CPU Governors explained.
- find power consuming apps
This is another very important thing. Sometimes apps stay active in the backgruond even if they are not in use. For identifying these you will usually need another additional app that records power consumation or online time. The HTC thing in one word is crap. I'm using android tuners statistic for that, but there are plenty of others for free to be found on google play. To get a right view of the things going on, you should check these statistics after a longer period without loading or switching off/on your device, as they usually reset your statistics.
If you find an app or widget draining your battery above average, check in it's settings if it's possible to set lower refresh intervalls, invert colors or whatever seems useful to you for reducing power drain. And think of using alternative apps if that's not possible or doesn't work the way you want.
Last not least I added a zipfile, showing my battery drain last night for about eight hours. Typically not more than 3%. Between 11 PM to 8 AM.
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Yeah nice ones but I've been told that the 'Fast Dormancy' option will only help out 3G phones, still all good thoughts and thanks
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Yeah nice ones but I've been told that the 'Fast Dormancy' option will only help out 3G phones, still all good thoughts and thanks
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Em the phone is 3g lol and the point of it is to use 3g and not h+ when its not in use.
Rootrider, Good tips there dude.
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Darknites said:
Em the phone is 3g lol and the point of it is to use 3g and not h+ when its not in use.
Rootrider, Good tips there dude.
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Oh my bad, my provider 'Telus' said h+ is their 4G?
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TheCrow1372 said:
Oh my bad, my provider 'Telus' said h+ is their 4G?
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Its close but still not the real 4G.
Darknites said:
Its close but still not the real 4G.
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So still better to have it checked off in Venom Tweaks hey
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TheCrow1372 said:
So still better to have it checked off in Venom Tweaks hey
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Em no you want this to be on.
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Em no you want this to be on.
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Yeah that's what I mean lol, it has the check mark on it :thumbup:
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Yeah that's what I mean lol, it has the check mark on it :thumbup:
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lol I think you do that just to try and confuse me lol.
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lol I think you do that just to try and confuse me lol.
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Like many others, I've scratched my head regarding why some seem to be able to get 7+ hours of screen on life while others get only around 3. I know the typical response is wakelocks but those SHOULDN'T affect screen on time much, when the CPU is already awake.
I have noticed that it seems that my device dies much faster when it gets hot, which makes sense, but I've never seen it affect a device to this extent. One time, I fully charged my battery and only got 3 hours SOT merely doing nonstop web browsing on WIFI without putting the device to sleep at all. Yesterday I even froze all apps except the stock ones after flashing PA gapps on Omnirom and my batter was worse than when I had 100+ apps and greenify. Usually I get 3-4 hours SOT a day of normal use on LTE with intermittent, cooler usage. When the device gets hot it also doesn't want to charge nearly as quickly either.
Therefore, I have a simple request: post your best or typical SOT and how often your device gets noticeably hot. I'd like to see if there's a trend between heat and SOT. Or at least vote in the poll. Both would be preferred.
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lol, are you serious?
we see a large variance is battery life because we all use our devices completely differently. plus we all have different qualities of phone/data signals, we all use differing brightness for our screems(some auto some not), we all do differing things to set up our phones as we want.. do you want me to go on? and the temperatures, they vary throught the day, depending what you are doing, depending on the temperatures around you. sometimes they can get very hot, sometimes they stay cool with lighter use. i get 5.5-7h screen on time every day. my phone can see temperatures of 88C to 0C daily.
simms22 said:
lol, are you serious?
we see a large variance is battery life because we all use our devices completely differently. plus we all have different qualities of phone/data signals, we all use differing brightness for our screems(some auto some not), we all do differing things to set up our phones as we want.. do you want me to go on? and the temperatures, they vary throught the day, depending what you are doing, depending on the temperatures around you. sometimes they can get very hot, sometimes they stay cool with lighter use. i get 5.5-7h screen on time every day. my phone can see temperatures of 88C to 0C daily.
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And disabling all apps to take the user setup out of the equation doesn't change things? Or the fact that I only got 3 hours SOT just web browsing? Sure, there's definitely variance involved but it seems like there's more with this device than I've ever seen before. Most devices I've used have been mostly consistent among users and don't have some people complaining about 2 hours versus 7 hours SOT in a short period.
It's easy to say it's environment variables or user error when you're getting 5+ hours every day but when you're someone who's been around the block with Android and phones in general and can't break the 4 hour mark ever, you start to wonder if there's more than initially meets the eye. I don't mean this to attack you, I'm just not sure what else yo do. I've tried undervolting, underclocking, keeping brightness down, greebifying (BBS looks fine), modified location settings, stayed on WiFi, turned off WiFi, removed apps, etc, and nothing helps SOT, only sleep drain.
The bottom line is, have you noticed your battery drains faster when it's hot or is it pretty constant? I'm just wondering if some devices, due to a lower PVS value or some other property of their chip, run hotter and drain more current doing the same tasks. Trying to eliminate the possibility.
P.S. Have you noticed the XDA app modifies or quotes the post above what you press? I have, as you can tell...
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JesusFreak316 said:
And disabling all apps to take the user setup out of the equation doesn't change things? Or the fact that I only got 3 hours SOT just web browsing? Sure, there's definitely variance involved but it seems like there's more with this device than I've ever seen before. Most devices I've used have been mostly consistent among users and don't have some people complaining about 2 hours versus 7 hours SOT in a short period.
It's easy to say it's environment variables or user error when you're getting 5+ hours every day but when you're someone who's been around the block with Android and phones in general and can't break the 4 hour mark ever, you start to wonder if there's more than initially meets the eye. I don't mean this to attack you, I'm just not sure what else yo do. I've tried undervolting, underclocking, keeping brightness down, greebifying (BBS looks fine), modified location settings, stayed on WiFi, turned off WiFi, removed apps, etc, and nothing helps SOT, only sleep drain.
P.S. Have you noticed the XDA app modifies or quotes the post above what you press? I have, as you can tell...
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ive had g1, google ion, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 7, nexus 4, and the nexus 5 now. every one of them has/had great battery life. its the way i setup and use my devices. our use is a huge variable. every single person uses their device completely different. for example in setup and use, you use the crappy xda app, that uses a huge amount of battery, i use the browser, and never install those kinds of apps. many people have facebook installed, i uninstslled it more than 2.5 years ago, i use the browser for facebook. facebook is also a battery killer. i can go on and on. then theres the variances in phone and data signal. bad signals can get more battery drainage, terrible signals can be battery killers.
anyways, you said sleep drains. i bet you have a few badly behaving apps, or you are using the wrong kernel for your device. or, it could just be the way that you use your phone is the reason you don't see 4+ hours sot.
simms22 said:
ive had g1, google ion, nexus one, nexus s, galaxy nexus, nexus 7, nexus 4, and the nexus 5 now. every one of them has/had great battery life. its the way i setup and use my devices. our use is a huge variable. every single person uses their device completely different. for example in setup and use, you use the crappy xda app, that uses a huge amount of battery, i use the browser, and never install those kinds of apps. many people have facebook installed, i uninstslled it more than 2.5 years ago, i use the browser for facebook. facebook is also a battery killer. i can go on and on. then theres the variances in phone and data signal. bad signals can get more battery drainage, terrible signals can be battery killers.
anyways, you said sleep drains. i bet you have a few badly behaving apps, or you are using the wrong kernel for your device. or, it could just be the way that you use your phone is the reason you don't see 4+ hours sot.
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Fair enough. I know the XDA app is bad but didn't think it was so poorly coded that it's a battery hog. The site needs a mobile version IMO.
What do you mean by "you said sleep drains"? My device sleeps quite nicely, I just mentioned that because that's usually the battery life people complain about but that's not an issue here.
I'll try doing a full wipe and not just freeze all my apps and leave just the stock stuff for a couple of days and see if that makes a difference.
Yeah, I wish there was a way to quantify how much signal is killing your battery. Sure, there's the battery page in settings but more detail would be wonderful.
I've experimented with most every kernel but it never really made a difference. I mostly stick to Franco.
Either way, I'd still like to get some crowd data on what they see. Two devices with opposite results is hardly conclusive (even though all your devices have been good, that doesn't necessarily rule out the possibility that there's a bad batch of CPU's or batteries in some Nexus 5's, unlikely as that is.). Everything you've said is valid, but I want to entertain the notion that, while that may be the problem the vast majority of the time, there could be another cause. If I find a bad behaving app on my phone or I just have crappy signal, great, but more data is never a bad thing.
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right now.
as you can see ill hit more than 4 hours sot, probably 5.5-6.5h sot. you notice my battery stats, heavy usage, but none of those silly apps eating battery, for me its mostly browser. yet earlier i was at 81C, because i was pushing my device. now cpu temps are around 44C.
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Thanks! I'll wipe my ROM tomorrow and leave the settings default and see what I get.
That looks like it rules out CPU temperature then, if temperature caused heavy drain you should see a steep slope at that time. Did your battery ever get hot?
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This is the first high-end smartphone I've owned that doesn't get hot at all. It'll get a little warm from time to time, but it's never anywhere near what I'd call "hot."
Samsung phones, on the other hand, get freaking HOT. My GS2 would get so hot at times that I could barely touch it, and my GS4 wasn't a whole lot better. My wife's GS3 will be blazing hot in its case when she's just been browsing the web or on Facebook. My N5 is never even close to as hot as Samsung phones have been in my experience.
Hmm, I dunno if I'd say it is painfully hot (thought when trying to wireless charge and use it it gets pretty bad) but certainly quite noticeable. What was the temp in degrees Celsius? I see 70s on the phone and 40s on the battery quite frequently.
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Phones that get hot to the touch are actually doing a good job dissipating the heat. Though it may become uncomfortable to be absorbing some of that heat it does have to go somewhere.
Nexus 5 uses aggressive thermal throttling to keep the phone fairly cool and according to Anand has a heat spreader between the SoC and battery unlike the Nexus 4 which caused the two to heat up quicker.
The only thing that will stop me from getting over 4hrs SoT (3.5 - 5 based off usage) is if an application decides to keep the phone awake endlessly. I've seen it happen for Google Search and a few others randomly at times. Reboot or force stop fixes that up.
My nexus 5 battery also seems really crap, and the back gets hot very quickly. Everything else on this device is 100% perfect. Ive tried everything i possibly could (Different kernel, undervolting, lower cpu freq, change governors, low brightness, most connectivity settings off, ok google off, and many more battery saving aspects) yet i still can only get around 2-3 Hours sot with light usage (XDA, web browsing, social media). Is my device somewhat faulty? Or is it supposed to be like this? And normally when i play games, it drains at a speed of a percent per 40-60 seconds.
And please dont go about bashing me, im just a bit curious on how people get around 6 hours sot.
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I haven't really had to do this on this phone, but I used to chase Screen on battery drain issues with Cool Tool from the play store. It floats a highly configurable window on the screen that lets you monitor a lot of system parameters including current draw - which is probably what you are most interested in here. I think you can also monitor the temp of the device, the cpu utilization, etc., etc. This lets you play with different settings and what not and get more immediate feedback as to what is happening with your device. In the screenshot, I configured the floating window only to show current draw...should be the pink 182 mA.
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I haven't really had to do this on this phone, but I used to chase Screen on battery drain issues with Cool Tool from the play store. It floats a highly configurable window on the screen that lets you monitor a lot of system parameters including current draw - which is probably what you are most interested in here. I think you can also monitor the temp of the device, the cpu utilization, etc., etc. This lets you play with different settings and what not and get more immediate feedback as to what is happening with your device. In the screenshot, I configured the floating window only to show current draw...should be the pink 182 mA.
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Thanks for that link but am I right in assuming most of it's functionality won't work correctly in KitKat? That has been reported with most battery or CPU monitoring apps so far.
I've been looking for something to show me current draw on stock but have only had battery widgets show me the current battery voltage which I don't understand the significance of. Starts at 4300mV when 100% and drops to about 3900mV when nearing empty.
When I first got my S7 the battery seemed to be draining pretty quickly, being totally unable to get through a full day without needing a recharge. In fact it would get down to about 20% within 7 hours. One night I charged it to 100% before bed, and then left it off charge, and it used up 15% overnight. I looked up some other people's reports, which seemed to suggest that the normal battery drain overnight should be closer to 5%. In fact on the "reviews" section on XDA, a lot of people seem to say that 1% overnight is more normal. I do use the AOD though, which I hear might use up 1% per hour? so I should be maybe getting between 8% and 10% overnight I guess.
I have done a full factory reset, thinking that perhaps it was being caused by an app or setting that had transferred during the NFC auto transfer process, so I did a clean install of everything, followed by wiping the cache. Fresh tidy install. Battery definitely seemed better, but still not great. I did another test last night, a shorter one but still should be enough info for people to help. (hopefully).
I've included the screenshots, which show a 7% drop in battery in 3.5 hours, so a typical 'overnight' is still going to be about 15%, way higher than 'normal' apparently.
I do leave everything running overnight, but from other user's reports that shouldn't matter. I have wifi set to turn off on sleep unless charging. Doze seems to have worked this time (which it wasn't before my factory reset), though it doesnt seem to have helped the battery drain much.
The weird part is that the built in battery app is saying GooglePlayServices is draining a lot of battery, but GSAM seems to think it hardly used any battery at all....
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My main reason for chasing after this is that I have just come from an xperia Z5 compact, which will happily get me through a day at work and to bedtime with 40%+ battery left, and could potentially last through two days. True, it has a smaller screen, but then the S7 has a bigger battery. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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When I first got my S7 the battery seemed to be draining pretty quickly, being totally unable to get through a full day without needing a recharge. In fact it would get down to about 20% within 7 hours. One night I charged it to 100% before bed, and then left it off charge, and it used up 15% overnight. I looked up some other people's reports, which seemed to suggest that the normal battery drain overnight should be closer to 5%. In fact on the "reviews" section on XDA, a lot of people seem to say that 1% overnight is more normal. I do use the AOD though, which I hear might use up 1% per hour? so I should be maybe getting between 8% and 10% overnight I guess.
I have done a full factory reset, thinking that perhaps it was being caused by an app or setting that had transferred during the NFC auto transfer process, so I did a clean install of everything, followed by wiping the cache. Fresh tidy install. Battery definitely seemed better, but still not great. I did another test last night, a shorter one but still should be enough info for people to help. (hopefully).
I've included the screenshots, which show a 7% drop in battery in 3.5 hours, so a typical 'overnight' is still going to be about 15%, way higher than 'normal' apparently.
I do leave everything running overnight, but from other user's reports that shouldn't matter. I have wifi set to turn off on sleep unless charging. Doze seems to have worked this time (which it wasn't before my factory reset), though it doesnt seem to have helped the battery drain much.
The weird part is that the built in battery app is saying GooglePlayServices is draining a lot of battery, but GSAM seems to think it hardly used any battery at all....
My main reason for chasing after this is that I have just come from an xperia Z5 compact, which will happily get me through a day at work and to bedtime with 40%+ battery left, and could potentially last through two days. True, it has a smaller screen, but then the S7 has a bigger battery. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Since it is not an app that is draining the battery, which means there are two possibilities.
First one would be that certain settings are draining the battery, like all the smart stuff and the beacon that always searches for devices nearby.
I personally don't use AOD because I don't find it that useful, plus it uses quite a lot of juice. So just look through the setting and turn off everything you don't use.
The second one would be the firmware.
I once had an update which made my battery just suck. I got quite fed up with it and decided to move to a custom rom and I've never had any problems since then. I also use greenify and L-speed to make my battery last even longer and since I am a quite heavy user, but with mixed use I get about 15-10% by bedtime.
Hope this helps you to fix your problem.
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Since it is not an app that is draining the battery, which means there are two possibilities.
First one would be that certain settings are draining the battery, like all the smart stuff and the beacon that always searches for devices nearby.
I personally don't use AOD because I don't find it that useful, plus it uses quite a lot of juice. So just look through the setting and turn off everything you don't use.
The second one would be the firmware.
I once had an update which made my battery just suck. I got quite fed up with it and decided to move to a custom rom and I've never had any problems since then. I also use greenify and L-speed to make my battery last even longer and since I am a quite heavy user, but with mixed use I get about 15-10% by bedtime.
Hope this helps you to fix your problem.
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Changing rom isn't really an option, as there is no way to do it without tripping knox. Not worth the effort at this point.
I already have the WiFi and Bluetooth constant scanning turned off, and WiFi turns off when the phone is asleep (or is meant to anyway).
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Changing rom isn't really an option, as there is no way to do it without tripping knox. Not worth the effort at this point.
I already have the WiFi and Bluetooth constant scanning turned off, and WiFi turns off when the phone is asleep (or is meant to anyway).
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I would try to flash a newer firmware via odin. That shouldn't trip Knox. But if that doesn't help then it might not be a software problem anymore.
I found that the AOD was preventing the phone entering Doze, disabled mine and got a lot better results overnight, down to about 2-3%
Lived without an AOD for years, don't need one draining my battery now
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I found that the AOD was preventing the phone entering Doze, disabled mine and got a lot better results overnight, down to about 2-3%
Lived without an AOD for years, don't need one draining my battery now
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Same, though I do like the feature at times. If it actually showed notifications for whatsapp or facebook I would definitly keep it, but it only shows texts and calls (and I rarely get either) so I can live without it.
If it had a setting to stay off unless you tap the screen, then show for say 5-10 seconds, and turn off again, and like you say, had useful notifications to show, then I might, but as it is atm, it's just a pointless battery drain
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If it had a setting to stay off unless you tap the screen, then show for say 5-10 seconds, and turn off again, and like you say, had useful notifications to show, then I might, but as it is atm, it's just a pointless battery drain
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Actually, something I learnt over the weekend (and you may know about already), is that the AOD screen will turn off if you turn the phone face down on the table, or have it in a pocket. I believe it uses the proximity sensor. When you pick it up, it turns back on.
Also, according to this article, it uses roughly the same amount of power "turned off" due to the proxy sensor, as it does when it's totally disabled. So maybe that's an option.
http://www.techspot.com/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html
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Actually, something I learnt over the weekend (and you may know about already), is that the AOD screen will turn off if you turn the phone face down on the table, or have it in a pocket. I believe it uses the proximity sensor. When you pick it up, it turns back on.
Also, according to this article, it uses roughly the same amount of power "turned off" due to the proxy sensor, as it does when it's totally disabled. So maybe that's an option.
http://www.techspot.com/news/64162-tested-galaxy-s7-always-display-consumes-little-battery.html
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Yea I remember reading about the face down thing a while back, didn't have a case back then though, and wasn't going to put the phone on it's screen, still, seems like more hassle picking it up and turning it around to see the AOD than just hitting the home button
Maybe 7.0 will improve AOD, if it was useful I wouldn't mind the drain as much, tbh I'm sitting at a PC most of the day anyway, so for the time I can just look at the computer, if I get a text the screen on the phone turns on anyway, and the only other thing is WhatsApp really, and I need to turn the screen on to reply on there, so tbh, AOD is pointless whichever way you look at it, for me anyway
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Yea I remember reading about the face down thing a while back, didn't have a case back then though, and wasn't going to put the phone on it's screen, still, seems like more hassle picking it up and turning it around to see the AOD than just hitting the home button
Maybe 7.0 will improve AOD, if it was useful I wouldn't mind the drain as much, tbh I'm sitting at a PC most of the day anyway, so for the time I can just look at the computer, if I get a text the screen on the phone turns on anyway, and the only other thing is WhatsApp really, and I need to turn the screen on to reply on there, so tbh, AOD is pointless whichever way you look at it, for me anyway
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I actually have the "easy on" setting turned on, so all I do is wave my hand over the screen to turn it on. Even easier than pressing the home button haha.
lol nice, I turn all that stuff off, don't like my phone waiting for gestures, accident waiting to happen
I especially hate WhatsApp when you are listening to a voice message, touch the top of the phone to move or turn it slightly, and the proximity sensor thinks you've put it to your ear and stops the message
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lol nice, I turn all that stuff off, don't like my phone waiting for gestures, accident waiting to happen
I especially hate WhatsApp when you are listening to a voice message, touch the top of the phone to move or turn it slightly, and the proximity sensor thinks you've put it to your ear and stops the message
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The proximity sensor is running all the time anyway, so it's nothing extra. Though I do agree that it is sometimes annoying when it turns the screen off when you don't want it to.
Yea it's not using any extra resources, but I don't want to activate something without realising because I reached over my phone to pick something up off the desk lol
The WhatsApp thing doesn't turn off the screen, it just stops the playback of the voice message, PITA
Update: So I tried it last night with AOD turned off, and the battery drain.... was basically the same. Still averages out to about 14% over 7 hours. Hmm.
Well sony is known for a good standby so nothing you can really do about this but a full charge on the s7 should het you to 1 full day atleast so turn of sync and locations.
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Update: So I tried it last night with AOD turned off, and the battery drain.... was basically the same. Still averages out to about 14% over 7 hours. Hmm.
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14% in 7 hours is not bad and think thats normal but like i said again this aint a xperia phone but a samsung so dont expect the same standby times.
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I actually have the "easy on" setting turned on, so all I do is wave my hand over the screen to turn it on. Even easier than pressing the home button haha.
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I have this setting on too. I wonder how much power this little feature costs? To have the sensors always on and looking to identify the exact right circumstances to fire up the display can’t be for free.
BTW it works great and never fails or lights up at the wrong moment for long. The phone has to be quite still (accelereometer) and the proximity sensor has to be triggered. This leads me to believe that quite a bit of the battery power goes this way. What do you think?
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Well sony is known for a good standby so nothing you can really do about this but a full charge on the s7 should het you to 1 full day atleast so turn of sync and locations.
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14% in 7 hours is not bad and think thats normal but like i said again this aint a xperia phone but a samsung so dont expect the same standby times.
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Well my only worry is I have a glitch or a bad battery, as a lot of reports on the xda reviews pages are saying that they get overnight battery drains closer to 5%, which is a lot less than I'm getting. This means my daily use is always going to be shorter, and my battery will wear out faster.
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I have this setting on too. I wonder how much power this little feature costs? To have the sensors always on and looking to identify the exact right circumstances to fire up the display can’t be for free.
BTW it works great and never fails or lights up at the wrong moment for long. The phone has to be quite still (accelereometer) and the proximity sensor has to be triggered. This leads me to believe that quite a bit of the battery power goes this way. What do you think?
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Well I know the proxy sensor is on for the AOD anyway, because of the auto shut off. I assumed it was a sensor that was just always running, like the accelerometers. They don't use much power really.
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Well my only worry is I have a glitch or a bad battery, as a lot of reports on the xda reviews pages are saying that they get overnight battery drains closer to 5%, which is a lot less than I'm getting. This means my daily use is always going to be shorter, and my battery will wear out faster.
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Well i know that when i keep my wifi always on that my battery drains faster so thats why i have that turned off. Also do i use flightmode when i sleep so battery doesn't get drained ????but double check all your apps for syncing
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Well i know that when i keep my wifi always on that my battery drains faster so thats why i have that turned off. Also do i use flightmode when i sleep so battery doesn't get drained ????but double check all your apps for syncing
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My wifi is set to turn off during sleep, unless the phone is on charge... Though the GSam app seems to say it's always on? That app seems a bit innacurate on other things too though, so I dunno if it's just cos the phone isn't rooted that it's not able to see things properly.